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Meeting April 19, 2006
02:02 flint Good Morning from the frozen north... 02:03 kjcole Thank goodness for Daylight Savings Time.... It's not quite as miserable starting an hour later. ;-) 02:03 JaneW hi all 02:03 cbx33 Hi 02:03 AndreaVeri hi JaneW 02:03 AndreaVeri :) 02:03 cbx33 Hi AndreaVeri 02:03 AndreaVeri hello pete :) 02:03 BugMaN hi 02:03 AndreaVeri oi BugMaN 02:04 BugMaN andreaveri: :-) 02:04 AndreaVeri jane its all ok?we can start? 02:04 JaneW ok as usual, standard format 02:04 AndreaVeri oliver? 02:04 ogra yep 02:04 JaneW I have made notes to discuss the following The Dev Status, Bug Status, Testing Status, Artwork, Web Site progress, Documentation, Cookbook, Edubuntu Memeber status and anything else required to be discussed. 02:04 AndreaVeri hello :) 02:04 AndreaVeri ok 02:04 cbx33 Excellent 02:04 JaneW ogra is busy so let's not take much of his time today 02:05 ogra i'm a tad busy with beta CDs 02:05 AndreaVeri ok perfect 02:05 JaneW ogra can you give us a 5 min update? 02:05 AndreaVeri okie oliver np 02:05 ogra testing of the next build (in 2-3h) would be very appreciated btw 02:05 cbx33 I can test the tomorrow 02:05 ogra so tech update .... 02:06 flint ogra, I can try but time is now a problem for me.. 02:06 JaneW ogra: time stamp? 02:06 ogra we're building beta ... still missing artwork and edubuntu-docs ... 02:06 AndreaVeri ok ill start testing 02:06 JaneW ogra: is that all that remains now? 02:06 AndreaVeri for me its ok today 02:06 ogra should be 20060419.1 for both 02:06 cbx33 where can i get them from? 02:07 ogra some small bugs i didnt manage to fix before beta as well === azeem [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:07 ogra i.e. the dhcp.config will currently produce a question on upgrades that shouldnt happen === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@2001:5c0:8f54:1:0:0:2:1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:07 AndreaVeri ok 02:07 JaneW ogra: things have gone really well this cycle, well done 02:07 ogra it's a minor change mdz is notified about === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:08 JaneW ogra: we only had the hicoughs with arguing about what was in and what was out initially 02:08 ogra the gobby upstream author contacted me 02:08 JaneW ogra: oh? 02:08 cbx33 hehe 02:08 flint ogra, interesting what has gobby got to say... 02:08 ogra JaneW, you remember we had to demote it to universe in london because it depended on howl 02:08 JaneW yes 02:08 ogra he offered me a fix 02:08 ogra *yesterday* 02:09 JaneW oic, too late thogh right? 02:09 Klaidas @schedule GMT+2 02:09 Ubugtu Schedule for Etc/GMT+2: Current meeting: Edubuntu | 19 Apr 11:30: Xubuntu | 20 Apr 18:00: Dapper Development Status | 25 Apr 18:00: Technical Board | 26 Apr 10:00: Edubuntu | 26 Apr 11:30: Xubuntu 02:09 ogra so with a lot of begging at mdz's desk i can probably get it back to main and on the CD 02:09 JaneW ogra: er what's the chance of that? 02:09 ogra it is approved for main 02:09 JaneW ogra: it;s WAY past too late 02:09 JaneW ogra: yes I guess 02:09 ogra so it *could* be a no brainer, depending on mdz 02:09 JaneW ogra: well try, there's no harm in trying 02:09 flint ogra, good luck. 02:10 JaneW unless he beat you up! ;) 02:10 ogra its not to late for something we had already in imho... but its up to him 02:10 JaneW ogra: sure, I agree put the case to him and let him make a call 02:10 ogra i have fixed the issue with dhcpd.conf autogeneration btw 02:11 ogra sadly no dapper material anymore 02:11 flint ogra, is gobby on the cd now? 02:11 JaneW ogra: how are the bugs looking, need triage help? 02:11 ogra flint, not since the london sprint 02:11 JaneW flint: no 02:11 flint damn 02:11 ogra JaneW, not specifically for edubuntu bugs, no 02:11 ogra there are not many 02:11 cbx33 good good 02:11 JaneW ogra: do you most need the community to test more than anything else? 02:11 ogra most edubuntu bugs are ubuntu bugs 02:11 JaneW and document! 02:11 ogra yep 02:11 JaneW ogra: yes 02:12 cbx33 I can document and test 02:12 ogra while documenting is also on my desk, since nobody knows the ltsp code as good as me, but cbx33 already offered some help 02:12 flint ogra, elkner has a question about this. i told him that any but on the ubuntu cd reports as an ubuntu bug. is that ok? 02:12 ogra so i'll just review and flesh out what i get 02:12 flint any bug... 02:13 ogra not really 02:13 JaneW ogra: I do think we are going to need to rely on you for some of the technical documenting (I am happy to do english grammar editing for you, so don't waste time on that), but if there are ppl willing and able to help, that would be wonderful 02:13 ogra having a distinction by package on launchpad wouldnt make much sense that way 02:13 cbx33 JaneW: 02:14 ogra JaneW, yep 02:14 cbx33 I'm open to all documenting if you need it 02:15 flint ogra, we will need to clarify then how a bug reports. Keep in mind that in malone now there is no "ubuntu" bug category 02:15 ogra i'll have to write a documented example lts.conf that nobody else will be able to do, but to write manpages for things like ltsp-build-client you just need to check the help of the script and flesh it out a bit 02:15 cbx33 Initial setup of ltsp is a must unless it's somewhere i dont know 02:15 ogra so many doc thingies can be done by others 02:15 ogra cbx33, that happens by the installer 02:16 ogra apart from the dhcpd.conf 02:16 cbx33 well i was trying to use an existing dhcp server to point to the ltsp server 02:16 ogra the only doc you need post install is https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LTSPServerSetup 02:16 ogra yes, we need a big warning that you shouldnt run two dhcp servers in one network 02:16 cbx33 found that the tftproot doesn't hold the pxelinux.0 file 02:16 cbx33 it's in a sub dir 02:17 ogra i was pondering to put it on the CD cover,, but it seemed a bit to scary 02:17 ogra cbx33, which is fine 02:17 cbx33 yeh, seeing as it'll be a small amount of people using it 02:17 ogra and which no user should touch anyway 02:17 cbx33 ogra: that's ok, just checking 02:17 JaneW cbx33: many thanks for offering to help with this 02:18 cbx33 I had to point it with my current dhcp server, after following the wiki links it said just use pxelinux.0 which of course didn;t work....but no biggie 02:18 cbx33 JaneW: np 02:18 ogra our tftpserver uses the right values... as long as you user the ltsp-* scripts for maintenance, all should function flawless 02:18 cbx33 that's great then 02:18 ogra only special cases need documentation ... 02:18 cbx33 indeed 02:18 ogra like powerpc 02:19 cbx33 I had that nfs problem too 02:19 ogra (which needs some extra dhcp options) 02:19 cbx33 now I'm pretty confident that that's because i was trying to use an existing dhcp server 02:19 ogra yep 02:19 ogra thats one of the most common bugs we have 02:19 cbx33 is it possible to put in some docs about that 02:19 ogra sure 02:19 cbx33 a lot of people will already have a dhcp server, esp in education === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:19 ogra it should be in the edubuntu getting started doic and in the cookbook faq 02:20 cbx33 yes I agree 02:20 ogra its fine if you have a two NIC setup 02:20 ogra you can part the networks easily 02:20 cbx33 could we doc that too> 02:20 ogra sure 02:20 flint ogra, ya i thought that a 2 nic setup was standard. 02:20 JaneW ogra: exactly which docs are outstanding? 02:20 JaneW we have 'about Edubuntu' already right? 02:20 ogra flint, nope, one NIC standalone is the standard i worked along 02:21 ogra JaneW, needs polish and some adjustment 02:21 JaneW ogra: is anyone looking at that? 02:21 ogra and no, we dont have it ready to ship yet 02:21 ogra me 02:21 cbx33 i can take a look if you want 02:21 JaneW jsgotangco or burgundavia etc? 02:21 ogra its already very good, but needs some edubuntu specific adjustment 02:21 JaneW oic 02:22 ogra and new screenshots 02:22 JaneW where is it now? 02:22 ogra they are made under the ubuntu theme === Lure [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:22 flint ogra, interesting implications Olli 02:22 JaneW I wonder if highvoltage could help with that? 02:22 ogra JaneW, he wrote it 02:23 ogra he can help indeed, but simply doesnt know some things 02:23 JaneW er that's not the start-up page though is it? 02:23 JaneW I am referring to the Edubuntu FF page 02:23 cbx33 is that new to dapper? 02:23 ogra like you should never ever add MOUSE_PROTOCOL=IMPS/2 to lts.conf since its autodetected... but you *have* to do it in classic ltsp 02:24 ogra the ff page will be "about edubuntu" 02:24 ogra i was planning to just have a link in there to the getting started doc 02:24 cbx33 good plan 02:24 JaneW oic, ok 02:24 JaneW I thought it was 2 sep things 02:24 ogra it is 02:25 ogra but i want to link the detailed doc from the common default page ... === Bluekuja [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:25 ogra so yu have it right in your face if you open ff for the first time 02:25 kjcole ogra, very sensible. 02:25 cbx33 yeh good plan === jimmu [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:26 ogra http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted 02:26 ogra btw 02:26 ogra ^^^ there it is currently 02:27 kjcole ogra, slick! Very nice. 02:27 ogra also i missed a lot of accessibility features on the CD, i had to add them yesterday night, they eat most of the free space i worked out the last weeks 02:27 flint ogra, indeed! 02:27 JaneW awesome and wow the site is looking GOOD 02:27 AndreaVeri really nice page 02:27 JaneW *clap* *clap* 02:27 ogra so there goes my big hope for more languages === cbx33 [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:27 cbx33 wow excellent work 02:28 JaneW ogra: I see your LTSP diagram is getting used nicely too :)) 02:28 ogra yes, highvoltage is very good in this 02:28 AndreaVeri for italian language its ok for me 02:28 ogra JaneW, yeah :) 02:28 cbx33 not much adaptation for UK :p 02:28 juliux ogra, i will ask if somebody can translate it into german 02:28 JaneW ok so that addresses my agenda item of web page, and what's happening 02:28 ogra juliux, great ! 02:28 JaneW It seems it is happening in stealth-mode 02:29 ogra he occasionally pops in to #edubuntu and asks for opinions 02:29 ogra so its not completely in stealth mode ;) === KOnsi [email@example.comWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:29 JaneW ogra: I haven;t seen that for a while 02:29 JaneW anyway I think it's awesome 02:29 ogra its always there ;) 02:29 ogra yep 02:30 JaneW and I was pretty attached to the first one 02:30 ogra and fits the desktop theme very nicely 02:30 JaneW so it was not an easy expectation to match 02:30 JaneW it our desktop theme set now? 02:30 ogra nope 02:30 JaneW bringing us on to artwork 02:30 ogra i have nothing from silbs 02:30 JaneW :/ 02:30 JaneW ! 02:30 ogra she was rather busy discussing CD cover text with me 02:31 cbx33 silentkeystroke.deviantart.com - any images that can be of use from there feel free to use 02:31 ogra but i know mdz wanted to ask her after the last dev meeting 02:31 flint ogra, are they actually gonna print cds for this dapper edubuntu run? 02:31 ogra cbx33, we are bound to the design agency for the default theme 02:31 cbx33 np - just offering :p 02:31 ogra flint, yep 02:32 ogra cbx33, i'd love to just pick one and be done ... 02:32 flint That IS good news! 02:32 cbx33 indeed === strapal [n=strapal@dsl51B79931.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:32 ogra but the default has to be from the same agency ubuntu and kubuntu come from 02:32 JaneW ogra: ok we'd better mail her 02:33 JaneW ogra: are the colours not even set? 02:33 ogra i would expect that mdz's mails triggered her 02:33 ogra i dont want to apper pushy 02:33 JaneW ogra: cos I am fairly sure your window frames etc can stay 02:33 cbx33 the firefox logo - sorry just a little thing - looks so close to gimp 02:33 ogra i havent heard back about the colors 02:33 ogra imho the colors are fine as is 02:33 ogra as well as the rest of the theme 02:33 JaneW unless the wall paper is VASTLY different 02:33 cbx33 indeed 02:33 JaneW and I hope not, else that messes with our web site colours too 02:34 ogra just the wallpaper is missing 02:34 ogra yes 02:34 cbx33 can we not impose any type of request there? 02:34 ogra but she said *we never had a colorcode for edubuntu* 02:34 JaneW ogra: yes I am assuming the colours can stay, so it;s shouldn't be too much of a panic 02:34 cbx33 like "Please don;t make us do more work" 02:34 ogra that really depends 02:34 ogra they wont work if she reallly comes up with a chalkboard design 02:34 JaneW ogra: well *we* did, maybe it wasn;t generally known or understood though 02:35 ogra yep 02:35 ogra thats what i tried to tell her 02:35 ogra i'm not sure she agrees 02:35 JaneW but atm u-brown, k-blue, e-ornage and red 02:35 ogra yep 02:35 ogra ubuntu is also orange now 02:35 JaneW right 02:35 ogra but rather tangerine ... we're darker 02:36 JaneW we are organge tending to red 02:36 cbx33 heheh 02:36 JaneW pumpkin orange 02:36 ogra s/tending/accentuating with/ 02:36 ogra :) 02:36 flint ...and in english nothing rymes with us. 02:37 flint :^) 02:37 ogra (red is our cherry on the cake ;) ) 02:37 JaneW heh 02:37 AndreaVeri ehhe 02:37 cbx33 :p 02:37 JaneW flint: lozenge rhymes loosely === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:38 flint JaneW, are you still taking drugs? :^) 02:38 AndreaVeri hi Seveas 02:38 JaneW ok so we need to pin the artwork down 02:38 JaneW flint: no I am drug-free now! \o/ 02:38 flint lol 02:38 cbx33 hehehe === AndreaVeri [n=AndreaVe@host165-208.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Sto] 02:38 JaneW can't you tell I am all high and manic again? 02:39 JaneW the morbid depression is gone :) === AndreaVeri [n=AndreaVe@host165-208.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:39 flint JaneW, I just assumed all this talk about lozenges... 02:39 flint :^) 02:39 JaneW ok edubuntu members 02:39 JaneW ogra: you discussed that with elmo last night 02:39 juliux yeah 02:39 cbx33 indeed he did 02:39 AndreaVeri yeah 02:40 flint JaneW, who has debs on green in the ubuntu galixy? 02:40 AndreaVeri the decisions for new members have to be taked by team admins 02:40 cbx33 or a nice Blue 02:40 AndreaVeri *taken 02:40 AndreaVeri so oliver and jane 02:41 ogra i'd like to have a *real* council for that 02:41 AndreaVeri oh 02:41 ogra with more than two members 02:41 cbx33 it would be good 02:41 AndreaVeri nice 02:41 ogra at least three so one can miss a meeting without holing up everything 02:41 cbx33 gives a rounder feel to it and also mimicks the upstream policy 02:41 AndreaVeri yeah perfect 02:42 JaneW flint: you can have it 02:42 JaneW flint: actually I think xubuntu is green...? 02:42 flint JaneW, thanks. 02:42 ogra even five if that makes sense later, but starting with an additional person would be good for the beginning 02:42 ogra JaneW, grey iirc === cbx33 dibs blue:p 02:42 AndreaVeri oliver who will decide other 3 members? 02:43 JaneW ogra: yes let's get several memebers to avoid what happened last night 02:43 cbx33 the roiginal team mebers ? 02:43 JaneW I think 2 more than required number is good 02:43 ogra yep 02:43 ogra thats a good question 02:43 AndreaVeri yes ^^ 02:43 ogra i guess we should make it vial the mailing list 02:43 ogra proposals etc 02:43 ogra then hold a vote in one of the next meetings 02:43 AndreaVeri edubuntu-devel 02:44 cbx33 proposal, seconded, vote? 02:44 cbx33 works well for our LUG meetings 02:44 flint oh I vote for this... 02:44 ogra who cant be here, can send his/her voting via mail 02:44 AndreaVeri oh ok 02:44 AndreaVeri nice idea 02:44 ogra i'll prepare a mail right after beta is out 02:44 AndreaVeri ok 02:45 cbx33 perfect 02:45 ogra note that the council members need to be ubuntu members already 02:45 AndreaVeri yeah ok 02:45 cbx33 a good plan 02:46 AndreaVeri i have to go now 02:46 flint ogra, that could limit educators... 02:46 cbx33 take care AndreaVeri 02:46 AndreaVeri im really really late 02:46 AndreaVeri see you all later 02:46 cbx33 it limits me :p 02:46 flint AndreaVeri, chaio 02:46 cbx33 but then I am a new comer :p 02:46 flint AndreaVeri, ciao... better... 02:46 ogra flint, we wont make *any* members without signed CoC, a valuable contribution and a LP account 02:46 AndreaVeri ciao cbx33 , JaneW,ogra,flint 02:46 AndreaVeri ;) 02:46 cbx33 is that for just edubuntu membership? 02:46 ogra flint, the exactly same erequirements as for ubuntu membership apply 02:46 ogra cbx33, nope === cbx33 ticks 2 of those boxes :p === AndreaVeri [n=AndreaVe@host165-208.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Sto] 02:47 ogra you are automatically a ubuntu member if we added you to the edubuntu team 02:47 flint CoC is the public key? 02:47 cbx33 just need to get the valued contribution out of the way .......:D 02:47 ogra flint, CoC == code of conduct 02:47 cbx33 CoC is the code of conduct signed with the GPG 02:47 cbx33 but don't attempt the newer one 1.0.1 02:47 kjcole flint, yeah signing the Code of Conduct with GPG. 02:47 cbx33 unles you are goign to do it without putting spaces in the text 02:48 cbx33 1.0.1 has a bug 02:48 flint cbx33, hence my reference to the public key thing... 02:48 ogra just dont modify it ;) 02:48 cbx33 heheh 02:49 cbx33 Next topic? 02:49 ogra flint, a) you have a CoC linked on your LP page, b) you need to upload your valid gpg key to your LP account, c) you need to click the sign button on the CoC page of your LP account 02:49 ogra thats it 02:49 ogra (unless it changed indeed :P ) 02:49 flint ogra, Ollie, I am a bit of an anarchist... but I will do this if you suggest it... 02:50 cbx33 flint: underlying rule : be nice :p 02:50 kjcole flint, I thought you already had. (Didn't I walk you through that?) 02:50 ogra if you want and @edubuntu.org mail address, you *need* to do that 02:50 cbx33 you can be a nice anarchist 02:50 kjcole cbx33, well I guess that leaves flint out. ;-) 02:50 cbx33 hehehe 02:50 cbx33 ogra: how often can people apply for edubuntu membership? 02:51 ogra as often as they want 02:51 flint cbx33, FITS == Flint Induced Touretts Syndrome, ask anyone how you can get it... 02:51 cbx33 flint: by touching you :p 02:51 ogra there is no limitation in ubuntu, why should we have one 02:51 JaneW but applications will only be considered once a month to start 02:51 cbx33 ogra: i meant how often will you approve new members 02:51 ogra cbx33, talking to him is usually enough :P 02:51 cbx33 aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh 02:51 ogra cbx33, we thought about once a month 02:52 ogra (the first meeting every month) 02:52 cbx33 sounds good, by that time I should have made my valuable contribution 02:52 cbx33 hehehe 02:52 ogra youre already doing 02:52 flint ogra, Oliver, somethimes just thinking about me will do it... 02:52 ogra the testreport was really awesome :) 02:52 ogra flint, heh 02:52 flint :^) 02:53 cbx33 thank you ogra want one on ltsp as i have tested so far 02:53 cbx33 I'll try and try out the flight 6 one tomorrow 02:53 ogra rather test the beta release :) 02:53 ogra flight 6 is old 02:53 cbx33 ok 02:54 cbx33 where can i get a copy 02:54 cbx33 link in the topic? 02:54 ogra flint, btw: https://shipit.edubuntu.org/ exists 02:54 cbx33 ogra: is kwiki in the edubuntu release? 02:55 flint ogra, thanks 02:55 ogra cbx33, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ 02:55 cbx33 thanx ogra 02:55 ogra nope we dont have wiki software included by default 02:55 kjcole ogra, NICE! We've got some LoCo events coming up, and it may be time to put in a shipit request soon. 02:55 cbx33 ogra: good...it's broken 02:55 ogra we discussed it, but the moin vs mediawiki argument came up 02:55 cbx33 i see 02:56 ogra so we leave them both optional in universe :) 02:56 cbx33 I'm working on a fix, but it leads to a string of unsync'd dependencies === leetcharmer [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:56 leetcharmer hihi all :D === licio [n=licio@ubuntu/member/licio] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:56 leetcharmer how's the meeting goin'? 02:57 cbx33 which I'm having to request UVF exceptions on 02:57 cbx33 great leetcharmer 02:57 leetcharmer cbx33, good :D what have did I miss so far? 02:57 ogra cbx33, if UFV exceptions fix blocker bugs,, they usually get approval 02:58 cbx33 ogra: think there's a chance of getting sadms in edubuntu at somepoint 02:58 cbx33 or a similar utility? 02:58 JaneW also thanks to mgalvin, we have https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDapperBeta 02:58 JaneW but it needs to be fleshed out 02:58 ogra sadms ? 02:58 ogra did he add my feature list already ? 02:59 cbx33 the configuration utility for linux to auth against a MS AD 02:59 ogra hmm and the participate link is wrong ... didnt we have our own participate page ? 03:00 ogra hmm, actually no 03:00 ogra the wiki has some rough statements on the frontpage 03:00 ogra but thats all 03:00 ogra we could need a proper "participate" page then 03:00 cbx33 that'd be good 03:01 leetcharmer so -- is Edubuntu ready for the dapper beta release in 11 hrs? 03:01 ogra https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki "how can i help" is a bit sparse 03:01 cbx33 of course 03:01 cbx33 ogra: is working hard 03:01 ogra leetcharmer, sure 03:01 cbx33 for someone who could only spend 10 minutes :p 03:01 cbx33 I think he's done amazing 03:01 leetcharmer cool :D 03:01 ogra actually rather my nerves work hard ... most of the time is waiting for LP 03:01 leetcharmer LP? 03:01 ogra which is most annoying 03:02 cbx33 heheh 03:02 cbx33 I know the feeling 03:02 cbx33 LaunchPad 03:02 leetcharmer gotcha 03:02 ogra 3h until a change is up ... 03:02 flint don't we have to pay the Presley estate to use the "...left the building" thing? 03:02 ogra then another hour to get CDs ... 03:02 ogra then syncing ... 03:02 ogra (which is also almost 1h for all isos) 03:02 leetcharmer I hope Ubuntu final release gets better support for my laptop than Flight 5 did :D 03:03 cbx33 i hope the battery applet is fixed in dapper 03:03 leetcharmer worked fine for me 03:03 leetcharmer what's the problem been? 03:03 cbx33 it always says AC power 03:03 cbx33 but that's offtopic now 03:03 flint ogra, you are building the final flight then right now. 03:03 cbx33 what's next on the agenda? 03:03 leetcharmer final flight = beta, no? 03:03 ogra there will be more fligts 03:04 flint so we are at flight 7 in this build 03:04 ogra we still have some weeks ahead, people shall see the progress 03:04 leetcharmer ogra, you gonna make a flight 6 before the beta release? 03:05 ogra you mean that flight 6 from two weeks ago ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/ 03:05 bimberi leetcharmer: flight6 is out - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/ :) 03:05 leetcharmer I mean 7** 03:05 bimberi ah 03:05 ogra nope, beta == flight 7 03:05 leetcharmer gotcha :D 03:05 leetcharmer did we get new graphics yet? :D:D:D:D 03:06 ogra ther will be the release candidate and i guess at least another milestone release inbetween 03:06 flint ogra, I thought it was 7 and like it better than beta as a name... 7 being a lucky number... 03:06 flint :^) 03:06 leetcharmer :p no such thing as luck 03:06 leetcharmer ^_^ 03:06 ogra nope, no new wallpaper yet 03:06 ogra we're still waiting 03:07 JaneW ok so I'll try to chase the wallpaper with silbs and toxic 03:07 ogra and given that i wont change the CD if its not oversized in this build i currently wait for, it wont happen for beta 03:07 JaneW let get going with the doc translations 03:07 JaneW the site looks great 03:07 ogra yeah 03:07 JaneW and ogra will ask mdz about gobby 03:07 JaneW and get beta out 03:07 ogra :) 03:07 leetcharmer d'oh! 03:07 ogra after beta 03:07 JaneW everyone else test and report back please 03:07 ogra he's busy enough atm 03:07 JaneW ogra: ok 03:07 bimberi ogra: will the url (in 3 hours) be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/beta/dapper-install-i386.iso ? 03:07 cbx33 of course 03:08 JaneW let's leave ogar to get on with it 03:08 ogra bimberi, nope 03:08 JaneW thanks for the time ogra === bimberi wants to set up a wget atjob 03:08 ogra that'll be the url if the beta release is actually out 03:08 leetcharmer will edubuntu dapper have a 'create thin client server' setting that sets up all connected machines on a network? 03:08 bimberi ogra: ah kk 03:08 ogra bimberi, if you already have an older iso around, rsync is the far better choice 03:09 cbx33 ogra: where can we find the url 03:09 ogra (rsyncing between two dailies happens for me in ~10 min, while a wget download trakes 2h) 03:09 ogra cbx33, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/ 03:09 flint ogra, would you care to spew out a working rsync line? this would help us get it right at our sites... === strapal [n=strapal@dsl51B79931.pool.t-online.hu] has left #ubuntu-meeting  03:09 bimberi ogra: ah, gotcha - use the daily build :) 03:10 cbx33 cheers ogra 03:10 flint ogra, rsync and I get along but only a little, and I very much like that idea. 03:10 ogra the recent upcoming daily and daily-live ( 20060419.1) should be fine (if they are not oversized due to the added accessibility stuff) 03:10 cbx33 ogra: which ltsp stuff do you need me to document? 03:11 bimberi ^^^^^ 03:11 ogra cbx33, the scripts first place 03:11 leetcharmer hwat! 03:11 leetcharmer hawt**!! 03:11 ogra ltsp-build-client -upadte-sshkeys and -update-kernel 03:11 leetcharmer I like EdgyEft :D 03:11 cbx33 np I'll get on with that, have they changed much from breezy to dapper? === freeflying [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 03:12 cbx33 seeing as I don;t have time to install edubuntu dapper at the moment, is ther eanywhere I could get a copy of the scripts from....so i can start docing on the way home? 03:12 cbx33 ogra: do you use sgml for man pages? 03:13 ogra apt-get source ltsp 03:13 ogra look in the server subdir 03:13 flint ogra, I may actually try to get a wiki going on this rsync thing... downloading the isos is a drag. 03:13 cbx33 thanks ogra 03:13 ogra flint, i have a rsync script 03:13 ogra http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/rsyncer.sh 03:13 flint ogra, thanks, I could really use it. 03:14 flint ogra, damn, thanks. This could be widely published and available... 03:14 ogra run it with --help to see the options ... it defaults to create an edubuntu directory in your current dir 03:14 ogra and to download live and install for all arches 03:14 ogra you might want to restrict that :) 03:15 cbx33 heheheh 03:15 flint ogra, my god the damn thing is 300 lines long and bulletproof you scare me Oliver!!!! 03:15 cbx33 sorry ogra - one last question, where does one apply for edubuntu member status - for future reference 03:16 flint ogra, ok, only 138 lines, but it is still a thing of beauty. needs a wiki page ma man... 03:16 ogra cbx33, https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members 03:16 cbx33 and the offer is still there if you guys want youthLUG to test anything out 03:17 cbx33 thanx ogra 03:17 ogra ok, we are over time, lets move to #edubuntu 03:18 flint ogra, really nice. 03:18 freeflying ogra: how to aplly for edubuntu membership 03:18 ogra :) 03:18 ogra freeflying, https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members 03:19 freeflying ogra: seems need approved 03:19 ogra freeflying, sure 03:19 ogra its the same as ubuntumembers 03:19 cbx33 of course freeflying 03:20 ogra i.e. you have to go through the full newmember process for it 03:20 freeflying come to the CC for it ? === bimberi dares ogra to set it as an Open team :P 03:21 ogra freeflying, nope 03:21 ogra i'll mail edubuntu-devel about the proicess next week or on the weekend (after beta)