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Meeting May 10, 2006
10:02 JaneW ok shall we start? 10:02 highvoltage i choose gimp. 10:02 cbx33 indeed === highvoltage nods 10:02 JaneW highvoltage: thought you would 10:02 JaneW ;p === ogra pokes flint 10:02 LaserJock highvoltage: "Don't EAT ME!" 10:02 highvoltage LaserJock: i'll try 10:02 JaneW yes I hope the rest of the world appreciates this time, I nearly feel asleep just now :/ 10:03 Bluekuja hehe, its ok for me 10:03 JaneW ok do we have a tech update? 10:03 juliux is there an agenda for today? 10:03 ogra i find it an intresting feeling to have an edubuntu meeting at night :) 10:03 LaserJock JaneW: what is your local time? 10:03 JaneW ogra: there was mention of a new bug in last thurs meeting 10:03 highvoltage me too, it doesn't feel real somehow 10:03 JaneW LaserJock: 10pm (but I am tired) 10:03 highvoltage it's like goint to school at night 10:03 cbx33 juliux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda 10:03 ogra https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda 10:04 ogra JaneW, there was ? 10:04 juliux thxs 10:04 LaserJock JaneW: well the last one was 5am for me, so it feels weird to have one in the light ;-) 10:04 highvoltage ogra: this is the part where you talk about lack of cd space and next beta release :) 10:04 JaneW ogra: so are there any serious bugs or other tech issues? 10:04 ogra all i can report is that i fixed ALL (!!!) ltsp bugs the last days, only whishlist ones are left 10:04 JaneW how's flight 7 looking? 10:05 ogra there is no flight 7 10:05 JaneW wow, sounds great 10:05 cbx33 well done ogra 10:05 LaserJock ogra: way to go! 10:05 highvoltage ogra: nice :) 10:05 Amaranth nice 10:05 ogra we skipped 7 10:05 Amaranth going straight to RC? 10:05 juliux ogra, good job 10:05 JaneW ogra: for edubuntu only? 10:05 ogra flight 8 will be prepared at the end of this week 10:05 cbx33 I always feel sorry for ogra at this point...everybody jumps on him :p 10:05 JaneW ogra: I didn't notice that 10:06 ogra JaneW, i wasnt notified before and i refuse to start preparing flights if i get notified 12h before 10:06 JaneW ogra: why did we not do flight 7? 10:06 JaneW oic ok 10:06 JaneW yes I recall that is was pretty sudden and unannounced 10:06 highvoltage quite 10:06 ogra its way too short time to get the CDs in shape, since a package from upload to archive currently takes ~4h === cbx33 too 10:06 JaneW do you think we needed it though? 10:07 JaneW edubuntu has been fairly static for a while now 10:07 ogra nope, it has changed a lot the last days 10:07 JaneW ok, so 8 should be good? 10:07 cbx33 i tested a daily a few days ago 10:07 cbx33 seemed fine 10:07 ogra i.e. the gcompris guys provided a patch that actually shrinks the package by 5M 10:07 JaneW how many more flight will there be do you think? 3 week to release now... 10:07 cbx33 ah excellent 10:07 ogra 8 should be great ! 10:07 highvoltage wow! that's great of them 10:07 JaneW ogra: cool 10:08 ogra i think that'll be the last flight before RC 10:08 cbx33 w00t 10:08 highvoltage hopefully gcompris will be more stable and less memory consuming too 10:08 JaneW ogra: can we implement that patch? 10:08 ogra but i'm not the release manager ;) 10:08 ogra JaneW, already done 10:08 cbx33 JaneW, I think it's already done isn;t it ogra ? 10:08 JaneW ok, good 10:08 highvoltage gcompris in our tuxlabs often gets the load average to 80 on the server 10:08 ogra we need to drop *something* from amd64 10:08 ogra (3.5M oversized) 10:08 JaneW ogra: so you are happy to put you name in shining lights on Edubuntu 6.06? 10:08 cbx33 ooooh 10:08 JaneW ogra: any suggestions? 10:09 cbx33 and that's without artwork/docs ogra ? 10:09 highvoltage tuxtype? 10:09 ogra the other arches are fine (until i upload the new artwork package tonight or tomorrow i guess) 10:09 cbx33 ogra, we have the new artwork? 10:09 JaneW ogra: the artwork shouldn't be too large 10:09 ogra i got the final artwork today, will perpare the package asap 10:09 cbx33 excellent 10:09 ogra so flight 8 will have the finals 10:09 cbx33 means we can start screenshots :D 10:09 juliux can we do an package with the old artwork? 10:10 juliux too 10:10 JaneW ogra: is the artwork going to be kept secret until the release date? 10:10 JaneW ogra: oh, ok^^ 10:10 cbx33 someof it is already released? 10:10 JaneW yes we need the screenshots 10:10 ogra and after working a week with the wallpaper i think we can go with red and orange to keep at least a minimal "warm" color 10:10 cbx33 :D 10:10 JaneW ok so in the next week we should start seeing the final look 10:10 ogra else the artwork is *very* cold now 10:10 ogra yep 10:11 JaneW ogra: agreed, let's try stick to our themes as much as possible, without obvious clashing 10:11 ogra tomorrow you should :) 10:11 cbx33 did you want lisas wallpaper in the aditional package? 10:11 JaneW so we may need to tone things down a bit 10:11 ogra cbx33, YES ! === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:11 JaneW cbx33: did she finish it? 10:11 cbx33 JaneW, we have this 10:11 cbx33 www.progbox.co.uk/3.jpg === ogra would even take it unfinished as is) === JaneW looks... 10:11 juliux perhaps we can do an package edubuntu-art-work-warm ;) 10:11 azeem W 28 10:11 azeem sorry 10:12 ogra juliux, no space on the CD 10:12 juliux ogra, no on the cd 10:12 ogra cbx33, AWESOME !! 10:12 JaneW loading SLOWLY here 10:12 cbx33 jane i have a smaller version? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #ubuntu-meeting  10:12 juliux cbx33, cool 10:12 cbx33 www.progbox.co.uk/33.jpg 10:12 ogra really kudos 10:12 highvoltage cbx33: yeah, it's really nice 10:13 cbx33 ogra, will that be on the cd or as a universe package? 10:13 JaneW cool 10:13 ogra that'll be in the edubuntu-artwork package 10:13 JaneW cbx33: is she happy for us to use it? 10:13 cbx33 highvoltage, we're still working on othe thing too :p 10:13 JaneW it's lovely 10:13 ogra if you run dpkg-reconfigure edubuntu-artwork you can select the young flavor 10:13 cbx33 of course JaneW she drew all the characters for you :p 10:13 highvoltage cbx33: excellent :) 10:13 JaneW cbx33: what are the black things though, with the logo on them? 10:13 cbx33 skateboard 10:13 JaneW cbx33: THANK-YOU LISA!!!!! 10:13 ogra JaneW, skateboard 10:14 ogra yeah, THANKS LISA !!! 10:14 Bluekuja cbx33: it's really a nice work 10:14 JaneW oh of course, I totally didn't notice that! 10:14 ogra its so great 10:14 juliux much better then the worldcard 10:14 cbx33 :D 10:14 JaneW I thought it was 2 old LPs or something 10:14 ogra JaneW, Burgwork had the same prob === highvoltage considers doing a figlet for lisa, but decides to follow suite with THANK YOU LISA! 10:14 cbx33 hehe 10:14 ogra ok, thats from the tech side 10:14 highvoltage he thought it was two old launchpads? 10:15 JaneW my new wallpaper :) 10:15 LaserJock hehe 10:15 JaneW it will be hard to say goodbye to edubuntu girl... === neutrinomass [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:15 JaneW but this at least makes me smile too, so it will be ok. 10:15 ogra JaneW, she's still in #edubuntu, we wont loose her === neutrinomass [email@example.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting  10:15 highvoltage i think she has a feeling that something's going on 10:16 JaneW ogra: now we have da edubuntu homies ;) 10:16 ogra yeah, saw that 10:16 cbx33 the homies rock 10:16 highvoltage yeah, they do 10:16 ogra JaneW, yep in eft+1 we'll have an "edubuntu gang" bot ;) 10:16 JaneW highvoltage: your personality split is getting scary 10:16 JaneW ok we'd better move on 10:16 ogra that can include edubuntu girl :) 10:16 Burgwork JaneW, I thought the person was fingering the watcher 10:16 ogra tech is done :) 10:16 JaneW so tech stuff - done 10:16 highvoltage JaneW: which personality split? 10:17 JaneW artwork - done 10:17 ogra heh, yes, alongside 10:17 highvoltage edubuntu girl NG 10:17 JaneW ogra: do you have all the artwork you need now? 10:17 ogra JaneW, yep 10:17 JaneW what about young splash? 10:17 ogra err 10:17 cbx33 :D 10:17 ogra nope 10:17 ogra wait 10:17 cbx33 want lisa to work on that? 10:17 JaneW and young login screen 10:17 ogra i have no usplash, i understood that we should get a new one as well 10:18 ogra mdz asked about it in his mail 10:18 ogra but since i didnt hear from silbs i guess we wont get one :/ === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:18 HedgeMage thanks, highvoltage, I almost forgot 10:18 cbx33 ogra, if you want any edubuntugang stuff, just submit specs to me and I'll pass them to lisa 10:18 HedgeMage it's been on eof those days 10:18 mdz ogra: we can try to get one, but there is very little time 10:18 JaneW ogra: we'd better send a mail to silbs and mdz detailing each of the themes and showing what we'll be using, to make sure there are no major issues 10:18 ogra to be honest, the artwork situation this release was quite horrible 10:18 JaneW ogra: could you compile that please? 10:18 ogra yep 10:19 JaneW ogra: but we saw examples, and you designed at least one... 10:19 ogra mdz, yep, thats why i answered we could take the old one 10:19 ogra JaneW, me ? 10:19 ogra not the usplash, no 10:19 JaneW ogra: well you showed me a few, in any event 10:19 ogra i mean, i designed the current one, yes 10:20 ogra JaneW, are you sure you are talking about usplash ? 10:20 JaneW ogra: the circle of friends one, and that other shiney one etc 10:20 ogra thats the gnome splash 10:20 ogra we have one from the design company now 10:20 JaneW ogra: no, I think I am talking gnome splash 10:20 JaneW not Usplash 10:20 highvoltage edubuntu is 40% shinier than any of the other ubuntu distro's 10:20 cbx33 is there a seperate young gnome splash? === Riddell disagrees with highvoltage there 10:21 highvoltage Riddell: you would :) 10:21 ogra highvoltage, not anymore ... in fact it looks quite cold and uncomfortable ... 10:21 JaneW erk, let's not have a derivative war! 10:21 JaneW we are all shiny 10:21 ogra i'm trying what i can to compensate that but i only have the window borders and the menu highlight color 10:21 JaneW (but some are shinier than others) 10:21 highvoltage ogra: ok, the shiny red theme not default theme anymore? 10:21 cbx33 we are all ubuntu after all 10:21 ogra highvoltage, i think we'll keep that 10:22 ogra it works with the chalkboard 10:22 JaneW ogra: do you need further artwork help? 10:22 ogra JaneW, nope 10:22 JaneW ogra: and can Lisa do designs for the U & gnome splashes etc? 10:22 ogra apart from the final homies pic if lisa wants to d more on it === HedgeMage is finishing the cookbook stuff she signed up for as we speak 10:22 HedgeMage Anything useful I can do once that's finished? === ogra applauds HedgeMage 10:23 JaneW HedgeMage: great we'll discuss that next 10:23 ogra :) 10:23 sladen a black and white chalkboard for the edubuntu usplash would work very well 10:23 JaneW ogra: so are you happy you have artwork under control? 10:23 cbx33 ogra, what's the deadline for the homies stuff 10:23 ogra sladen, please not more chalkboards 10:23 highvoltage cbx33: you said you had a jw homie, could you upload that too? 10:23 cbx33 will do, :D 10:23 JaneW sladen: we are not terribly fond of chalkboards anymore :) 10:23 ogra JaneW, for some kind of minimal value of control, yes 10:23 ogra (very minimal) 10:24 cbx33 ogra, cease this mumbo jumbo :p 10:24 ogra i have the artwork and we can go with the old usplash 10:24 JaneW ogra: LOL (understood) 10:24 cbx33 minimal values blah...make sme think I'm back at uni 10:24 LaserJock cbx33: the Edubuntu uni ;-) 10:24 cbx33 :p 10:24 JaneW ogra: surprise us 10:24 ogra all i have to do is packaging it and make sure we have the space on the CD 10:24 highvoltage ogra: just not naked people again please 10:24 JaneW ok artwork - discussed, TBC soon 10:25 JaneW ok documentation 10:25 JaneW let's talk about TDC 10:25 JaneW The Dreaded Cookbook 10:25 cbx33 heh 10:25 JaneW where are we with that? 10:25 ogra i was approached at linuxtag by some guys who want to make a german translated printed edition of it :) 10:25 HedgeMage ogra told me it was due on the 10th, so naturally I'm doing it at the last possible moment. 10:25 HedgeMage But, it'll be done in a couple of hours :) 10:26 JaneW spacey and pygi took ownership... 10:26 ogra HedgeMage, i told you ? 10:26 HedgeMage where it = my parts 10:26 highvoltage ugh. it's the 10th today 10:26 HedgeMage ogra: I think it was you 10:26 JaneW ogra: awesome, ... now we just need to finish it 10:26 highvoltage HedgeMage: you mean pygi 10:26 highvoltage pygi is going to kick my ass tomorrow 10:26 ogra unlikely, i tend to ignore deadlines where i'm allowed to === cbx33 is happy to proof and make corrections if that's needed? 10:26 HedgeMage highvoltage: could have been, it was near dawn my time when the discussion was had 10:26 highvoltage i'll have to stay up late to work on the cookbook then 10:26 ogra and edubuntu docs is something where we can slip 10:26 HedgeMage cbx33: I'd like that when mine goes up 10:26 JaneW ogra: how much? 10:27 JaneW ogra: to the end of the week? 10:27 LaserJock ogra: the doc team is starting a lulu.com store for print copies of doc team material 10:27 ogra i'd say until short before RC 10:27 cbx33 HedgeMage, just ping me or mail me a link : firstname.lastname@example.org 10:27 highvoltage also on docs, cbx33 is going to do some wiki cleanup (which is *much* needed) 10:27 highvoltage cbx33: perhaps you'd like to mention your plans? 10:27 HedgeMage cbx33: okay, will do 10:27 cbx33 indeed i am 10:27 JaneW ogra: but we need time to proof and finalise, so the sooner the better 10:27 ogra but given that we might need to get corrections in, probably end of the week is better 10:27 JaneW what's the likelyhood that this beast is going to be done? 10:27 HedgeMage cbx33: what kind of plans? World domination? 10:27 cbx33 I've started a clean up wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuWikiCleanup 10:28 cbx33 please if you have any comments on pages just add them below 10:28 cbx33 I intend to make a new mockup of the wiki front page ~ASAP 10:28 JaneW cbx33: great thanks, that will help a lot 10:28 HedgeMage cool 10:28 cbx33 any ideas comments just mail em to me, I'll setup a mock page tomorrow morning 10:28 JaneW we need to make the content valid for the dapper release 10:28 cbx33 indeed 10:28 cbx33 that is the main plan 10:28 ogra note that we need to make the ltsp docs common, they are not edubuntu specific 10:28 JaneW good 10:28 cbx33 also there is a lot of redundnt data in the old one 10:28 ogra even if i always put them below edubuntu docs 10:28 JaneW ogra: yes 10:29 cbx33 see the cleanup 10:29 highvoltage ogra: noted 10:29 cbx33 ogra, noted about the ltsp 10:29 cbx33 i will edit mine 10:29 highvoltage ogra: so they should stay out of the /Edubuntu namespace? 10:29 cbx33 think we need to pull these together 10:29 ogra i think Applicationselectin can go === highvoltage agrees with cbx33 10:29 cbx33 into a kind of ltsp manual 10:29 cbx33 cookbook possibly 10:29 highvoltage all the seperate ltsp pages is a bit confusing 10:29 ogra in favor od the ESA === juliux_ [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:30 ogra *of 10:30 cbx33 ogra, yes - and ther eare several others like that 10:30 ogra it was a crappy page i used as a dynamic list while we did the first appselection 10:30 ogra edubuntu desktop can go as well 10:30 ogra -software too 10:30 cbx33 mark them on the cleanup if you could ogra :p 10:31 ogra ok 10:31 highvoltage most of the original wiki can go. some parts need to be redone. 10:31 Burgwork when cleaning up the wiki, remember to look for pages that link in, if you are going to delete 10:31 ogra yep 10:31 highvoltage but i trust cbx33 with it :) 10:31 cbx33 thanks highvoltage 10:31 cbx33 I'll not be deleting anything....but moving for now 10:32 ogra the *goals pages are worth archiving 10:32 Burgwork cbx33, moving == deleting in moin 10:32 highvoltage Burgwork: if we'd want to delete some pages, do we just ping on -doc, or should it just be marked as a category for deletion? 10:32 Burgwork highvoltage, just delete them 10:32 JaneW yes app selection was hacked together at the summit, I think it' largely irrelevant now 10:32 Burgwork we trust you 10:32 ogra err 10:32 JaneW although we should have a list of packaged apps 10:32 cbx33 :D 10:32 ogra DapperGoals are the ubuntu dapper goals 10:32 ogra how did that end up there = 10:32 ogra ? 10:32 cbx33 ogra, its a wiki :p 10:33 highvoltage check the history? 10:33 ogra our pages are all prefixed with Edubuntu 10:33 cbx33 if the majority of the cleanup page is approved by you guys I'll start on that tomorrow hopefully 10:34 ogra please make things like TeachingTools EdubuntuTechingTools 10:34 LaserJock JaneW: all package on the Edubuntu CD or just the edubuntu specific ones? 10:34 ogra *Teaching 10:34 JaneW LaserJock: relevent ones I think 10:34 cbx33 ogra, yes will do 10:34 ogra LaserJock, even the science packages from universe 10:35 cbx33 JaneW, does the ESA cover it ? 10:35 JaneW so mostly the edu stuff and then mention the other main ubuntu app like OOo xchat etc 10:35 ogra i looked at the german edubuntu wiki page today, it links to UbuntuScience ;) 10:35 cbx33 so ESA should voer it 10:35 JaneW yes 10:35 cbx33 xchat isn't it edubuntu is it? 10:35 ogra yes, ESA covbers the installed stuff 10:35 JaneW cbx33: yes I have it 10:35 cbx33 I had to manually install it 10:35 JaneW I have edu desktop install 10:36 ogra we dont ship any chat program anymore 10:36 cbx33 ogra, can you confirm 10:36 cbx33 didn;t think so 10:36 ogra its been dropped from ubuntu 10:36 cbx33 that is supprising 10:36 JaneW unless ogra cheated and just gave me the artwork on top of ubuntu 10:36 ogra they say gaim is enough 10:36 JaneW argh 10:36 cbx33 give me xchat anyday :p === JaneW too 10:36 Bluekuja me too 10:36 Bluekuja i love it 10:36 JaneW anyway that's not our decision 10:36 ogra its in universe :) 10:37 cbx33 :d 10:37 JaneW so ppl will learn how to d/l and install 10:37 LaserJock ok, so if you want I can work on package lists 10:37 Bluekuja hehe yes 10:37 cbx33 ok can i add a little bit about ESA? 10:37 highvoltage ogra: don't we even have irssi in edubuntu!? that should be part of the base install! 10:37 ogra if i had the space to play around i'd re-add it, really 10:37 cbx33 ogra, I believe you 10:37 JaneW ok so is anyone owning getting the cookbook finished? still pygi and spacey? 10:37 LaserJock highvoltage: it is, I'm pretty sure 10:37 cbx33 LaserJock, what pacakge list? 10:37 ogra cbx33, tell us about ESA 10:38 LaserJock cbx33: JaneW wanted an Edubuntu package list 10:38 ogra cbx33, scientific apps 10:38 highvoltage JaneW: yes 10:38 cbx33 ESA has come along in leaps and bounds....it's now in the ubuntu-doc svn repo 10:38 cbx33 hoping to get the screenshots now that the artwork has been finalised 10:38 JaneW highvoltage: ok I am going to mail them for an official status update 10:38 LaserJock cbx33: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/school-advocacy.html 10:38 ogra do you have any estimated size for it ? 10:39 highvoltage JaneW: great 10:39 cbx33 thanx LaserJock 10:39 JaneW cbx33: yes 10:39 JaneW highvoltage: will you be able to put a few updated screenshots on the site too once they are available? 10:39 highvoltage JaneW: absolutely 10:39 cbx33 I will put the most uptodate ESA on the wiki 10:39 JaneW oh and we'll need to start working on our release announcement too 10:39 ogra ok 10:39 cbx33 then we can add screenshots there 10:39 JaneW is mgalvin working on those yet? 10:40 HedgeMage highvoltage: I could use some help with screen shots for my install chapter, too, if you're willing 10:40 cbx33 please if someone is using a package, or knows how to use it and can produce good screenshots that would be appreiciated 10:40 cbx33 we really need to show these off 10:40 HedgeMage I can do app/package shots, just not install shots (no vm) 10:40 HedgeMage cbx33: just give me a list :) 10:40 cbx33 HedgeMage, that'd be excellent 10:40 cbx33 check ESA 10:40 highvoltage HedgeMage: ok, there's a whole range of installation screenshots at http://www.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted 10:40 ogra the install wont change 10:40 cbx33 it's all there 10:40 highvoltage HedgeMage: but if you need any more, please let me know, and I'll arrange 10:40 ogra so highvoltages shots from there are fine 10:41 HedgeMage highvoltage: cool thanks you rock 10:41 ogra highvoltage, did you change the "admin" thing ? 10:41 HedgeMage cbx33: ESA???? 10:41 cbx33 ogra, are we documenting the ubiquity install? 10:41 highvoltage ogra: no, not yet. do you recommend that i do? 10:41 cbx33 HedgeMage, see LaserJock's link above 10:41 ogra and please note that the screenresulution question is not a common one 10:41 JaneW HedgeMage: there are install shots in OsDir already 10:41 ogra it only happens if autodetection fails 10:41 highvoltage ogra: 'sysadmin' would be fine, right? 10:41 HedgeMage thanks 10:41 ogra yep 10:41 JaneW those aren;t changing afaik 10:41 ogra cbx33, we dont ship liveCDs 10:42 cbx33 ok np 10:42 cbx33 just checking 10:42 ogra no need to extra document ubiquity, since its identical on ubuntu === highvoltage noticed that there is a shipit.edubuntu.org last week 10:42 HedgeMage JaneW: in where? sorry :( 10:42 ogra just that the windowframe is brown not red :) 10:42 LaserJock highvoltage: cool 10:42 JaneW HedgeMage: lemme find link 10:43 ogra yep, shipit it in test run currently 10:43 cbx33 nice 10:43 HedgeMage question: when I start doing app screenshots, should I do them all with the default theme (for consistency) ? 10:43 highvoltage HedgeMage: yep 10:43 cbx33 HedgeMage, yes, once ogra has released the artwork 10:43 ogra yup 10:43 LaserJock HedgeMage: yes, or you will be assigned to all related bug reports ;-) 10:43 HedgeMage ogra: what's ETA on that? 10:43 HedgeMage LaserJock: LOL 10:43 ogra the apps artwork wont change ... as long as you dont have the wallpaper in them all is fine === HedgeMage hides from the bugs 10:44 cbx33 ogra, thank you 10:44 ogra HedgeMage, tomorrow 10:44 HedgeMage ogra: okay, cool 10:44 JaneW HedgeMage: 10:44 JaneW http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=621&slide=1 10:44 HedgeMage ogra: poke me tomorrow and remind me if it's not too much trouble, please 10:44 ogra oki 10:44 HedgeMage thanks JaneW 10:44 JaneW HedgeMage: those are 6.06 beta 10:45 ogra JaneW, thats all liveCD 10:45 ogra (bootscreen etc) 10:46 JaneW ogra: ah right, there were more then... 10:46 JaneW ogar: oh and this is what I mean earlier, didn;t you make this http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=621&slide=3 10:46 ogra the gettingstarted page has currently the best installer shots we have 10:47 ogra JaneW, yup 10:47 ogra but intentional as an interim 10:47 ogra i found it too dark when i created it already 10:47 ogra or rather too saturated === highvoltage looks at that osdir page 10:48 JaneW it is nice though and certainly better than not having any edubuntu one 10:48 JaneW ogra: and what about that install video? 10:48 JaneW ogra: shall we try to use it somehow 10:48 JaneW ? 10:48 ogra we should advertise it, yes 10:49 cbx33 anyone seen the plethora of edubuntu videos on goolge? 10:49 highvoltage yep 10:49 HedgeMage nope, I'll have to look 10:49 ogra http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/splash_05a.png 10:49 JaneW ok I think we should link to some of the better tutorials, esp Chris's one which is very good 10:50 JaneW it made me want to install it! 10:50 ogra and: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/dapper_art/chalkboard.png 10:50 cbx33 ogra, nice splash 10:50 ogra imagine the splash on the chalkboard :) 10:50 ogra makes me freezy 10:50 JaneW ogra: that splash matches at least 10:50 cbx33 JaneW, my point 10:50 highvoltage JaneW: what did you mean about that osdir page? 10:50 JaneW it goes with the theme 10:50 ogra but hey, the guy who made it has studied it i guess 10:51 cbx33 heh 10:51 highvoltage ogra: i see what you mean with cold === TobSiCret [firstname.lastname@example.orgWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 10:51 JaneW highvoltage: nm, I thought there were installer screenshots, but there aren't :( 10:51 JaneW highvoltage: the other one was the splash 10:51 ogra it pretty much the opposite of our breezy appearance 10:52 ogra JaneW, there were a lot better ones in the splash selection 10:52 cbx33 true 10:52 ogra that also matched 10:52 JaneW ogra: at this point all we can do is say 'I told you so' if it is not well received in the community 10:52 cbx33 highvoltage, did you post on your blog yet? 10:52 JaneW ogra: do we have to keep it for 5 years!? 10:52 JaneW 3 rather 10:52 ogra JaneW, 3 only 10:52 LaserJock ogra: quick question, will people that dist-upgrade from breezy still have the breezy theme? 10:52 cbx33 you're kidding right? 10:53 ogra our server luckily depends on desktop stuff :) 10:53 highvoltage cbx33: no, sadly i forgot to download ogra's presentation at work the past three days :( 10:53 ogra LaserJock, nope 10:53 cbx33 hehe 10:53 LaserJock ogra: that will be a shock 10:53 ogra yep 10:54 highvoltage Thomas Hoffman complained when he was greeted with edubuntugirl after a dist-upgrade 10:54 ogra i only have the opportunity to say "i told you so" afterwards 10:54 highvoltage i wonder what he'll say after his next dist-upgrade :) 10:54 ogra he'll be pleased 10:54 cbx33 only if he had the Homies 10:54 ogra who knows, probably he was involved in the selection ;) 10:55 cbx33 anything else? === ogra is no friend of t.h. since he asked about bugs and released that as an interview a day later 10:56 highvoltage next time we have a meeting at 22:00 we should announce it to the edubuntu list, methinks === cbx33 has one final point if ther eis time.... 10:56 ogra JaneW, any Management and/or Community stuff ? 10:56 ogra highvoltage, yep 10:56 highvoltage i think there's some people in other timezones that didn't know about this meeting 10:56 JaneW well there's SoC, but that's not specific to Edubuntu 10:57 ogra we should also make the agenda page more promintent 10:57 JaneW and the summit in June 10:57 ogra yeah, SoC 10:57 JaneW the sponsorships are still being considered 10:57 highvoltage ogra: noted 10:57 highvoltage ogra: it can link directly from our www page? 10:57 ogra we have two edubuntu SoC's with mentors now :) 10:57 Amaranth JaneW: *crosses fingers* 10:57 JaneW we should have definite answers by the end of the week on sponsorships 10:57 ogra highvoltage, yep 10:57 ogra oh yes, the summit :) 10:57 JaneW looks like we'll get 2/3 edubuntu ppl though 10:57 juliux JaneW, thats good 10:58 ogra UbuntruFrenchKiss :) 10:58 HedgeMage nice 10:58 ogra oops 10:58 ogra *Ubuntu === TobSiCret [email@example.comWays.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] === cbx33 has one final point if there is time.... 10:58 highvoltage two minutes :) 10:59 cbx33 and nothing else to discuss 10:59 juliux cbx33, some here, because i get an holiday job in london === HedgeMage listens 10:59 highvoltage cbx33: speak! === cbx33 is putting together a proposal 10:59 cbx33 to take edubuntu to the BETT show in london next year 10:59 highvoltage cbx33: paste your wiki link 10:59 cbx33 it's in January, it's going ot take some convicing, as it isn't cheap 11:00 cbx33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BETTShow2007 11:00 ogra oh, btw i agreed to sladen that i'll hold an edubuntu talk at http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2006/ 11:00 ogra while we're at shows 11:00 cbx33 any ideas for fundraising or 3rd party sponsorship 11:00 cbx33 please let me know 11:01 cbx33 also if anyone would be available to come ot london to help out that'd be cool 11:01 cbx33 thanx guys 11:01 cbx33 that's me done 11:01 highvoltage i'll also be pimping edubuntu next week at linuxworld in Jo'burg 11:01 JaneW yes please if you can add to the proposal that would be great 11:01 cbx33 highvoltage, nice 11:01 cbx33 this is a chance to show edubutu to educational people 11:01 JaneW we need to have a plan before we approach management for assistance 11:01 highvoltage (that's when i'm not playing pranks on jdub, of course) 11:01 Amaranth the sioux city school district's IT guys started the local lug, i should see if they know about edubuntu 11:01 JaneW and need a plan b for funding if management say no, or only partially yes 11:02 HedgeMage cbx33: I could come if there were fundage for it, but I don't have the money to travel like that on my own budget :/ 11:02 cbx33 JaneW, exactly 11:02 highvoltage JaneW: good idea, i think we might need to put time aside to discuss that, don't you think? 11:02 JaneW highvoltage: yes please do! 11:02 JaneW highvoltage: are you taking ubuntu CDs? 11:02 highvoltage JaneW: yes, i am 11:03 cbx33 are we shipping over to #edubuntu now? 11:03 JaneW highvoltage: yes, but I think we should maybe do it after the release when thing settle down (discuss BETT proposal) 11:03 cbx33 JaneW, yes i agree 11:03 ogra yep, time is over 11:03 sladen ogra: good point, did you sort out that talk with agk 11:03 highvoltage how is may the 23rd, 12:00 UTC for everyone, for a discussion on approaching management and edubuntu proposals? 11:03 JaneW highvoltage: oh please do something nasty to jdub! 11:03 ogra lets give Ubugtu an opportunity to clean up the room :) 11:03 highvoltage JaneW: ok :) 11:03 ogra sladen, not yet ... but end of june is far out :) 11:04 JaneW highvoltage: I think we must wait till first week in June 11:04 JaneW we have to finish dapper 11:04 JaneW cookbook 11:04 JaneW ark 11:04 ogra sladen, i'll come if no ubuntu schedule gets in the way 11:04 JaneW wiki 11:04 highvoltage JaneW: ok, we can make a time in the next meeting then 11:04 JaneW etc etc 11:04 JaneW highvoltage: yes sure 11:04 JaneW ok thanks guys 11:05 ogra adjourned :)