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Meeting May 31, 2006
02:03 JaneW hi all 02:03 highvoltage hi JaneW 02:03 GrumpyPiano Hey 02:04 JaneW so it;s the day before the release 02:04 GrumpyPiano Mhmm cant wait :D === JaneW is not feeling very talkative today 02:04 JaneW who has updates? 02:05 ogra just a word about the CD 02:05 HedgeMage Hmmm... I don't see pygi so I could update on Cookbook I guess. === HedgeMage listens to ogra 02:05 JaneW ogra: go 02:05 ogra edubuntu live is gold for all arches and wont change anymore from the 20060531 iso 02:05 ajmitch excellent :) 02:05 jsgotangco \o/ 02:05 JaneW ok 02:06 JaneW ogra: more testing needed? 02:06 highvoltage whohoo! 02:06 JaneW well done ogra :) 02:06 azeem ogra: congrats 02:06 HedgeMage :) 02:06 HedgeMage ogra: good job! === jeffwaddell [firstname.lastname@example.org] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] 02:06 highvoltage ogra: so edubuntu is the first to get to release point? ogra you deserve a medal :) 02:06 ogra edubuntu install 20060530.2 which i tested through this night was good as well, there was a minor bugfix which caused a 20060531 iso which needs new testing (but i expect no regressions) 02:06 JaneW everyone who is going to paris please buy ogra a drink for me! 02:07 HedgeMage :D and one for me 02:07 jsgotangco no he needs a game of bliss after this 02:07 HedgeMage hehe 02:07 jsgotangco ;D === jeffwaddell [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:07 HedgeMage hi jeffwaddell 02:07 ogra edubuntu dvd is problematic, i just finished the tests of the complete set but was offline most of the morning so i didnt know there are new isos (since 30min) === highvoltage will make sure that ogra never has to pay for beer in paris === jeffwaddell grumbes about not being that comfortable in Xchat 02:08 JaneW jsgotangco: with you? 02:08 LaserJock jeffwaddell: no irssi? 02:08 highvoltage ogra: what's the problem with the dvd's? 02:08 ogra during the night i could rsync a dvd in 11mins ... te ETA on the current one is 5.3h === jsgotangco thinks 02:08 highvoltage ouch :( 02:08 ogra which makes 15h for 3 arches 02:08 HedgeMage ouch. 02:08 JaneW ogra: and are the CD sizes ok now? 02:08 jsgotangco eww 02:09 LaserJock ogra: they really should get a mirror that isn't advertised for devs or something 02:09 jeffwaddell LaserJock, Xchat is on this ubuntu (yeah!!!) box, don't know if irssi is but know that BitchX is not 02:09 ogra JaneW, we wouldnt be able to release if there were breakages 02:09 LaserJock jeffwaddell: irssi is on by default 02:09 JaneW ogra: true 02:09 ogra and we certainly will release all flavors for all arches ;) 02:09 JaneW ogra: does mdz have to 'sign off' or something? 02:09 JaneW ogra: great 02:09 ogra at least thats how it looks atm 02:10 ogra if i dont fall asleep before i have tested everything ;) 02:10 jeffwaddell LaserJock, I see that is...having never used it before I wonder if it's more comfortable than xchat === Skymaker [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:10 JaneW ogra: you feeling finished? 02:11 JaneW ogra: I hope you aren;t ill too? === LaserJock sends ogra some caffeine pills to help get Dapper out the door 02:11 JaneW jeffwaddell: can you discuss that elsewhere please? 02:11 jeffwaddell janew, yep 02:11 JaneW ogra: you can crash after you party 02:11 JaneW pr before if you really have to 02:11 JaneW ogra: I think you have done GREAT this cycle 02:11 JaneW thank-you === zeR [n=dap@p54809F61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:11 ogra i'm not done yet 02:12 ogra send your congrats tomorrow after the release 02:12 ogra oh, btw if someone could prepare a release announcement, that would rock 02:13 HedgeMage I could do that I think... just a little "here it is" sort of thing? how long? 02:13 JaneW jsgotangco: ..?^^^ 02:13 JaneW ogra: are we announcing them all together? 02:13 ogra there is surely a template of the ubuntu one on the wiki 02:13 JaneW HedgeMage: thanks === Klaidas [n=klaidas@unaffiliated/klaidas] has left #ubuntu-meeting  02:13 jsgotangco ogra: i thought we're announcing them all at the same time??? 02:13 HedgeMage cool, np 02:14 highvoltage how about updating the previous release announcement? === jsgotangco is confused 02:14 HedgeMage once it's done, where am I putting it? 02:14 HedgeMage highvoltage: good idea ;) 02:15 jsgotangco HedgeMage: if you can please do, if not, please ping me immediately about it and i could do a 10 minute job again 02:15 ogra i dont think so for the final announcement 02:15 ogra highvoltage, the *release* announcement should list all new features over breezy 02:15 ogra its not like a flight announcement === JaneW is looking for an ubuntu announcement 02:15 HedgeMage ahh okay 02:15 jsgotangco JaneW: try lwn 02:15 ogra im pretty sure mgalvin is somehow involved in the ubuntu announcement === HedgeMage listens and learns and gets ready to write 02:15 highvoltage ogra: i wasn't talking about a flight announcement, i was suggesting using the previous release announcement as a template 02:15 ogra the breezy one ? 02:15 ogra no that wasnt very good :) 02:16 highvoltage ok 02:16 jsgotangco that was a 5 minute job heh === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:16 HedgeMage lol 02:16 HedgeMage well, I have given up on sleep, so I have between now and whenever TT wakes to do it 02:16 ogra yeah, and worse, it looks like one :) 02:16 HedgeMage brb 02:16 highvoltage jsgotangco: please start your 10 minute job, if you have 10 minutes now. even if HedgeMage does it. then we can combine the best of the two? 02:17 highvoltage this was the old one: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuReleaseAnnouncement 02:17 jsgotangco sure i have some of the technical improvements on paper somewhere === jsgotangco starts digging at his pile 02:18 LaserJock there were technical improvments in Dapper? ;-) j/k 02:18 ogra the technical improvements were all in the flight announcements === JaneW can't find anything 02:18 highvoltage LaserJock: just look at the changelog for ltsp alone ;) 02:18 jsgotangco LaserJock: lots in LTSP 02:18 ogra jsgotangco, i merged you a list iirc 02:18 jsgotangco yeah i have it 02:18 ogra and mailed it a while ago === jsgotangco has it now 02:19 JaneW yikes look at this... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes 02:20 JaneW "Ubuntu is a Linux distribution aimed for educators to easily deploy and maintain a learning environment" ...?? 02:20 jsgotangco JaneW: that seems to be stale lately 02:20 jsgotangco original doc i wrote is BreezyReleaseNotes 02:20 JaneW jsgotangco: but Ubuntu is not specifically for educators at all 02:20 highvoltage on system requirements, requirements for "LTSP Server" would also be great 02:20 HedgeMage back 02:21 jsgotangco it is probably something i wrote without thinking 02:21 JaneW ok 02:21 JaneW but punting of edubuntu is always good 02:21 HedgeMage jsgotangco: can you toss me that list please? 02:21 JaneW subliminal advertising 02:21 jsgotangco HedgeMage: email? 02:22 ogra highvoltage, the ones from the CD cover 02:22 HedgeMage jsgotangco: email@example.com 02:22 jsgotangco cool 02:22 highvoltage ogra: there are ltsp requirements on the CD cover? 02:22 ogra yes 02:22 highvoltage ogra: i haven't seen a cd cover for dapper yet. are they public? 02:22 ogra argh, amd64 install failed ... 02:23 LaserJock :( 02:23 JaneW highvoltage: yes 02:23 JaneW in DiyMarketing 02:24 jsgotangco HedgeMage: you can look at this too http://lwn.net/Articles/155632/ 02:24 JaneW https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing 02:24 HedgeMage jsgotangco: thanks 02:24 JaneW highvoltage: they are quite nice (if you use a proper pdf viewer) === jsgotangco haven't seen the covers either 02:26 highvoltage (docteam) http://help.ubuntu.com/quicktour/C/quicktour.html lists a screenshot of ltsp.org's website next to LTSP 02:26 jsgotangco hey these are old models 02:26 highvoltage yeah, ignore that for now, I'll bring the page up in ubuntu-doc later 02:27 JaneW btw guys I have not heard back from Chrsi Coldwell yet (re that Edubuntu Install Video) 02:28 JaneW sorry I meant Chris === trainee [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:30 jsgotangco is it required atm? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:32 highvoltage meeting still going? :) 02:32 JaneW jsgotangco: well we wanted it on the site 02:32 JaneW last week it was one of my actions to follow it up 02:32 HedgeMage highvoltage: yep 02:32 highvoltage JaneW: it can still go on. we're not bound to release cycles for website updates 02:32 JaneW highvoltage: yes 02:32 JaneW highvoltage: although it will be a breezy install 02:33 highvoltage JaneW: although, it would be nice to have it on there asap when people start installing dapper, i see what you mean 02:33 JaneW how different is that 02:33 JaneW *blush* that I don't know 02:33 JaneW highvoltage: ed zachary 02:33 JaneW highvoltage: aka exactly 02:33 highvoltage more or less the same. it's just minor changes as far as i can tell, unless they're using espresso 02:33 JaneW ubiquity I tihnk it called now 02:33 highvoltage which is only applicable if they install from livecd 02:33 jsgotangco brb 02:33 JaneW yuk 02:34 highvoltage aaah, so that's what ubiquity is. 02:34 jsgotangco where were you? 02:35 highvoltage jsgotangco: i wish you could spend the last month or so in our office and see for yourself. 02:35 jsgotangco heh 02:35 highvoltage jsgotangco: i've seen a bit of the buzz about ubiquity, but didn't realise what it was about. 02:35 jsgotangco it actually works nice 02:35 jsgotangco although i only tried it with kubuntu 02:36 LaserJock they only thing I've had problems with is partitioning 02:36 jsgotangco it actually went fine with me on RC 02:36 HedgeMage jsgotangco: got your email, thank you :) 02:37 HedgeMage JaneW: I'm sorry, but if you answered me, I missed it -- What should I do with my release announcement draft once it's written? 02:38 ogra HedgeMage, put it on the wiki for review 02:38 JaneW HedgeMage: um, place it on the wiki 02:38 JaneW ogra will most likely get the honour of sending it 02:38 HedgeMage okay, will do, anyplace special or just make sure it's easy to find? 02:38 JaneW HedgeMage: also ogra will need to add technical details === HedgeMage nods 02:39 jsgotangco \o/ 02:39 JaneW HedgeMage: um, how about https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDapperReleaseAnnouncement 02:39 HedgeMage :) 02:39 HedgeMage got it 02:41 JaneW page created === Huahua [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jeffwaddell [firstname.lastname@example.org] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] 02:42 HedgeMage :) 02:42 HedgeMage working on it now === TiganSan [email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === JeffWaddell [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:45 TiganSan Hello, this is my first time joining an ubuntu meeting. Is the meeting still goingon or did I miss it? 02:46 highvoltage TiganSan: still going 02:46 HedgeMage TiganSan: It's still going on, but appears to be winding down :) === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8D29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:47 HedgeMage at least, people are getting quiet :) 02:47 TiganSan So I see. That's ok. Now that I know how to join the meeting, I try to be on time === JeffWaddell is having technical difficulties 02:48 LaserJock well, it is 0500 here some I'm bound to fall asleep at some point ;-) === JeffWaddell [email@example.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["ubuntu-meeting"] === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:48 HedgeMage LaserJock: about 6am here, I'm wondering whether or not I'll sneak in a nap before TT wakes. 02:49 HedgeMage TiganSan: :) 02:49 HedgeMage I think there's an Xubuntu meeting in an hour or so if you care to wait around. 02:49 LaserJock oh yeah, it's almost 6 here, my brain isn't working yet 02:49 JaneW any cookbook update? 02:49 TiganSan Well, I am dialing in from USA-East Cost time so I am just wide awake>-D === JaneW is losing focus 02:50 LaserJock yeah, are there anymore items we need to cover? 02:50 highvoltage JaneW: eating before a meeting is not a good idea ;) 02:50 HedgeMage JaneW: We have more material up, and active proofing going on. 02:50 JaneW highvoltage: this I have just found out 02:50 JaneW highvoltage: I feel drugged 02:50 HedgeMage JaneW: I think we'll have a good first cookbook for Dapper and an incredible second one for Edgy, now that we have ourselves in order. === jeffwaddell [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 02:51 JaneW HedgeMage: excellent, i am so glad it has direction now :)) 02:51 HedgeMage :D === JaneW wants to go read it 02:51 highvoltage anything else on the meeting agenda? when is the next EC edubuntu meeting? 02:51 HedgeMage JaneW: Go for it. I'm still transcribing a couple of my bits from handwritten notes... got stuck in an airport for many hours over the weekend without my laptop. 02:52 HedgeMage highvoltage: next week, I think. 02:52 JaneW HedgeMage: URL? 02:52 HedgeMage JaneW: I'm doing the release draft, sleeping (I hope) then hitting cookbook again 02:52 JaneW HedgeMage: wiki/cookbook? 02:52 JaneW HedgeMage: you are a star! 02:52 HedgeMage JaneW: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters 02:53 LaserJock highvoltage: next week, later time, and is time for new members, I think 02:53 highvoltage LaserJock: great 02:53 HedgeMage JaneW: I'd actually like to see the old cookbook stuff (that never really went anywhere except as an impetus for the new) to be relocated or deleted eventually... it seems an easy way to confuse people 02:54 JaneW HedgeMage: if it is redundant already point the pages out to highvoltage and he can kill them 02:54 JaneW he likes doing that === TiganSan [email@example.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting  02:54 highvoltage mhuhahahaha 02:54 JaneW see^^? 02:56 HedgeMage JaneW: awesome, will do... after I sleep :P === HedgeMage watches highvoltage wave his wand of smiting 02:57 highvoltage smiting? what's that? (highvoltage's engrish isn't that good) 02:58 HedgeMage highvoltage: destroying in a godly manner 02:58 highvoltage oooh, i like that word. 02:58 HedgeMage with super powers and such 02:58 HedgeMage :) 02:58 JaneW highvoltage: smite: 1. 02:58 JaneW 1. To inflict a heavy blow on, with or as if with the hand, a tool, or a weapon. 02:58 JaneW 2. To drive or strike (a weapon, for example) forcefully onto or into something else. 02:58 JaneW 2. To attack, damage, or destroy by or as if by blows. 02:58 JaneW 3. 02:58 JaneW 1. To afflict: The population was smitten by the plague. 02:58 JaneW 2. To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise. 02:58 JaneW 4. To affect sharply with great feeling: He was smitten by deep remorse. 02:58 JaneW is this meeting over? 02:59 ajmitch heh 02:59 HedgeMage I think so 02:59 highvoltage i take it that this meeting is smited? 02:59 HedgeMage If that was a motion, I second it :P 02:59 highvoltage great. ----> #edubuntu 02:59 JaneW sorry it was rather discombobulated === JaneW refrains from passing a motion :P 03:00 HedgeMage rofl 03:00 LaserJock lol 03:00 JaneW poor cbx33 03:00 JaneW having to minute that ;) 03:00 HedgeMage BTW, am I sending logs to Pete or is someone else? I seem to remember him asking at least 4 people... 03:00 ajmitch JaneW: so SoC stuff, nothing special you require from us slav^Wstudents apart from the spec? :) 03:00 JaneW ajmitch: LOL 03:01 Mithrandir ajmitch: we require HARD WORK. === HedgeMage pictures him buried with many copies of the above log 03:01 ajmitch Mithrandir: of course 03:01 JaneW ajmitch: is your spec finalised? 03:01 ajmitch nah, still a couple of things in the proposal that aren't listed in the spec :) 03:01 JaneW ajmitch: you and mentor just have to stay in touch, and you need a clear spec so that it;s easy to judge if you have completed successful or not... 03:02 ajmitch well my mentor just demanded hard work, so I think that's possible 03:02 JaneW ajmitch: listen to him :P === JaneW hands Mithrandir the whip 03:02 sivang hehe 03:03 JaneW ajmitch: and he seems to be watching you ;) 03:03 ajmitch I can see that :) 03:03 sivang can I have some whipping myself ? :p === trainee [firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jeffwaddell wonders why JaneW has given the power of the whip to another...perhaps she has a backup === Synergy6 [n=Synergy@85-210-93-9.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 03:04 JaneW jeffwaddell: I always carry backups 03:05 jeffwaddell :) 03:05 JaneW jeffwaddell: and I need to start farming out my power === jsgotangco knows what to ask from JaneW 03:06 JaneW ok Edubuntu folk back to #Edubuntu NOW