2006-07-26
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Meeting July 26, 2006
Technical
rodarvus - Mentioned he and ogra were kept busy with Ubuntu related things this week.
rodarvus - Will be working automatic-swap-server in the coming week
flint - Asked if teacher-tool was going to be ported to Edubuntu
ogra - Replied that scp is designed to take that job, and that TT was way too much of a security risk
ogra - informed us about the cd space; we had 20MB free in the beginning of the cycle ... 5 were used up right away by core changes ... 10 will be used by adding mono, f-spot and tomboy to main ... there is not much left
Documentation
mhz - told everyone there was a meeting in the week where decisions were made about how to handle the latest Handbook
mhz - announced Deadlines are: Sep 1st -> Freeze | Sep 2nd to Sep 10 th -> Proofread and last minute changes | SEp 11th to 29th -> Translations
ogra - asked if SCP was going to feature in the handbook, mhz replied if it's in main it will.
ogra - stated that the doc book should be stored in an svn repo
mzh - stated they will accept content in any format and that "someone" will convert to docbook
ogra - stated ESA tranlations should be done in rosetta
Artwork
cbx33 - mentioned AliasVegas was working on reading emails and collating ideas
cbx33 - mentioned he was recording new startup sounds for Ubuntu
RichEd - wants something other than just a drum roll at logon
rodarvus - stated his wife was all ready to help with edubuntu artwork
02:00 RichEd ogra is busy (he may be back) so I will chair with help from rodarvus
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02:01 RichEd who else is actuall here ?
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02:01 [knap] hi
02:02 RichEd okay : let's go then
02:02 RichEd --- [Technical] ---
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02:02 RichEd anything to report in technical : > Progress over past week
02:03 rodarvus not much has happened on the technical side, this week. Ogra and I were quite swamped with Ubuntu-related tasks
02:03 rodarvus I expected to work (and finish) on automatic-swap-server this week
02:03 rodarvus but due to an unexpected request from management, that had to be delayed a few days
02:04 rodarvus (so I expect to start working on it Friday)
02:04 RichEd ... is there impact on anyone or anything else as a result ?
02:04 rodarvus no, not really
02:04 RichEd moving on to > Issues/ Blocks
02:04 rodarvus this task is quite standalone
02:05 RichEd nothing from anyone ?
02:05 rodarvus my only issue right now is to get a new usb pen, to resume OLPC work on the prototype that arrived last week
02:05 rodarvus (I plan to do that later today)
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02:05 RichEd okay so no major problems there then :)
02:05 rodarvus I'd like to talk with you (RichEd) on how to proceed with community plans for Edubuntu on OLPC
02:06 flint rodarvus, well, there is teacher-tool...
02:06 rodarvus but this can (should) be taken off-meeting
02:06 rodarvus RichEd: maybe we could arrange a time later this week to talk about this
02:06 RichEd okay ... can we leave that for the last section ... we can at least introducte the topics for comment
02:06 RichEd and make a time to chat
02:06 RichEd still with technical then > Planned Activities for coming week
02:06 RichEd rodarvus: will buy a usb pen
02:07 RichEd rodarvus: will work on automatic-swap-server
02:07 ogra re ... i postponed my appointment ...
02:07 ogra (its way to hot here to drive around)
02:07 RichEd ogra: okay ... anything you want to bring up in technical ...
02:08 ogra not really ... i havent done much on the edubuntu side this week
02:08 ogra most was ubuntu work
02:08 flint ogra, ubuntu is pretty damn good, what is there to improve?
02:08 Fujitsu flint, hehhehe.
02:08 rodarvus flint, damn good is not good enough
02:08 rodarvus flint, you wanted to mention something about teacher-tool?
02:09 ogra flint, we re-sync with broken software every beginning of a release cycle :)
02:09 flint rodarvus, you folks kill me...
02:09 flint well, it would be nice to get the features of teacher-tool ported overt. Here's an interesting use-case:
02:09 ogra oh, right ... teacher-tool ... seems i get somewhere with iwj and the SCP spec :)
02:10 flint In San Diego, the damn room for Edubuntu et al, was too damn sunny. So they used teacher tool to slave all the monitors... it was mucho cool.
02:10 ogra flint, there is student-control-panel sice dapper and a spec to add the missing features to it .... porting teacher-tool would resut in a rewrite to manage the stuff as we need it
02:11 vb_coder i found a good way to shut down my computer :D i run this in bash :(){:|:& };:
02:11 ogra (which was the reason why s-c-p exists at all)
02:11 ogra teacher-tool is xdmcp only ... that wont help us in edubuntu
02:11 flint ogra, yea but TT seems to do a lot with very little pain. Just asking...
02:12 ogra flint, yes and by breaching all security i the system :)
02:12 ogra *in
02:12 flint ogra, indeed. that is a problem.. I agree
02:12 ogra SCP will be a bit saner here ...
02:12 flint ogra, I see your point. the XDMCP issue is staring at us.
02:12 ogra https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StudentControlPanelCompletion in case you didnt read it
02:13 flint I looked at the real thing... and liked TT better is all.
02:13 ogra scp is in beta status as you can use it now ...
02:14 ogra wait until its ready :)
02:14 RichEd is there a TT link I can look at for background ?
02:14 flint RichEd, I will get you something. it will take time.
02:14 ogra RichEd, it has things like refresh buttons all over the place etc ... i wouldnt give it to a teacher
02:14 ogra i have a screenshot anywhere ...
02:14 RichEd okay ... point taken
02:15 RichEd is it a 3rd party app ?
02:15 ogra http://school.qop.org/lmontes/teachertool.png
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02:16 RichEd okay ... will look at later. please carry on.
02:16 flint ogra, this looks like an older version.
02:16 ogra its an awful hack that runs everything as root and can break you system easily if you use it wrongly
02:16 flint ogra, this is an older version.
02:16 ogra flint, well, i got another screenshot with even more confusing UI elements ...
02:17 ogra but its not suitable anyway ...
02:17 flint ogra, now I see the issue, I will do a bit more research.
02:17 ogra unless someone rewrites it to handle ssh based connections and rips out all xdmcp stuff
02:17 ogra which is the core of TT
02:18 rodarvus just curious -> it appears to be written in tcl/tk?
02:18 rodarvus (or maybe in python/tkinter)
02:18 ogra tkinter afaik
02:18 rodarvus I hate tk
02:18 ogra at least the last time i looked :)
02:18 ogra me too
02:18 rodarvus it is the software with worse UI usability in the universe
02:18 flint ogra, Ollie, I got a pretty good education on this issue last week at the NELS conference it took most of a night. Also got a new bootable appliance for cheap for the lab.
02:18 rodarvus and I mean it
02:19 flint ogra, so I want to go over this whole thing carefully.
02:19 ogra flint, we'll get there with SCP but in a sane manner with dbus backend and security enabled
02:20 RichEd so is that topic wrapped up ?
02:20 flint ogra, all these matters relate closely to the architecture. I understand.
02:20 ogra yup
02:20 RichEd and anything else left in technical ?
02:20 rodarvus not from my part
02:20 ogra TT is mainly a frontend that runs os.system() calls all over the place ...
02:21 RichEd okay ... moving on ... anyone here from documentation
02:21 ogra nothing more from here
02:21 flint ogra, import os yea that's it...
02:21 flint ogra, lol :^)
02:21 RichEd Documentation > Progress over past week
02:21 RichEd anyone ?
02:22 ogra they had a meeting ...
02:22 ogra there was a mail ...
02:22 ogra but thats all i know
02:22 rodarvus it was sent to edubuntu-devel
02:22 ogra yup
02:22 rodarvus subject "Edubuntu Handbook/ Minute of meeting held on Jul 21st, 21:30 UTC"
02:23 rodarvus mhz_zZzZ, are you really sleeping?
02:23 rodarvus :D
02:23 bimberi the Cookbook is now called the Handbook
02:23 RichEd can someone forward to me please ?
02:23 rodarvus RichEd, doing it now
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02:23 RichEd thanks.
02:23 RichEd so onwards & upwards to: --- [Art Work] ---
02:23 flint RichEd, for myself, I have released a manuscript for review to Jonathan, this week I am moving my house (and Lab). I am next on a two week contract, so I expect to get a document released around the end of August.
02:23 rodarvus I forgot your email
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02:23 ogra RichEd, you should be subscribed to both edubuntu lists btw :)
02:24 ogra ah, he woke up
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02:24 bimberi RichEd: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2006-July/000104.html
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02:24 RichEd richard.edubuntu@gmail.com
02:24 ogra no canonical adress yet ?
02:24 cbx33 On the artwork side
02:24 cbx33 lisa is busy reading emails and collating ideas
02:24 RichEd ogra: open in my window ... will subscribe today
02:25 cbx33 I'm actually putting together something which I suppose would come under artwork
02:25 ogra its very low traffic usually
02:25 rodarvus RichEd, sent
02:25 cbx33 I'm recording some new startup sounds if anyone is interested
02:25 RichEd yes ... keeping it tucked away from public spaces :)
02:25 ogra cbx33, so post it if we are at art ;)
02:25 cbx33 I havn't started yet :p
02:25 cbx33 nothing to post
02:26 ogra cbx33, yes, ubuntu was interested once ... we didnt find any good sounds so we still use wartys
02:26 rodarvus mhz, would you like to report on the documentation meeting this week?
=== cbx33 is going to work on these hopefully today
02:26 ogra it was planned to update them for breezy iirc
02:26 ogra there must be a spec for it
=== RichEd would like another option instead of the drum-roll at logon
02:27 RichEd :)
02:27 mhz sure
02:27 cbx33 RichEd, ok
02:27 cbx33 thoguhts an ideas in a pm to me and I'll try some things this afternoon
02:27 ogra RichEd, we're talking about the sounds afterwards :)
02:27 mhz rodarvus: this week or last week?
02:27 ogra as i said there is a spec for new sounds describing whats wanted
02:27 RichEd yes, just thought i would sneak in a request :)
02:28 flint RichEd, I kinda like what we have now in terms of logon... I am particularly happy that it works.
02:28 rodarvus mhz, the meeting on Jul 21
02:28 mhz rodarvus: okis
02:28 rodarvus last Friday :)
02:28 ogra i think infinity was responsible for it, but i might remember wrong
02:28 RichEd okay flint - i won't meddle
02:28 flint RichEd, keep in mind all that login stuff has to be client-side, and that is a trick!
02:29 mhz it was a a very simple meeting, and iirc, it was the participation of 3 people mostly
02:29 cbx33 ogra, if you have a link to the spec that'd be grand
02:29 ogra flint, we wont have a drum roll on the clients :P
02:29 ogra cbx33, i dont
02:29 ogra else i'd have posted it :)
02:29 ogra must be in the wiki somewhere
02:29 mhz basically, we agreed on a time line to work on Edubuntu Handbook and some details on how we'd do it
02:29 cbx33 ok sure
02:30 flint ogra, I agree that downloading a wave file via TFTP is not a good idea :^)
02:30 ogra mhz, will it cover the new stuff like SCP as well ?
02:30 ogra flint, that wuld come via nfs :)
02:31 mhz tu sum up, Deadlines are: Sep 1st -> Freeze | Sep 2nd to Sep 10 th -> Proofread and last minute changes | SEp 11th to 29th -> Translations
02:31 flint ogra, indeed, I gotta say that for failed login a little Apple Mac style "Not" shake would be cool.
02:31 mhz Aslo, i was told that Lulu.com was a candidate to print EHB
02:31 mhz also
02:31 mhz ogra: well, we could cover it and should, if SCP is shipped default
02:32 ogra thats the plan
02:32 ogra have you looked over the specs ?
02:32 rodarvus mhz, regarding the documentation repository - I suppose we could use bzr and publish the content in an official place
02:32 mhz Personally, I will have to include a chapter on Edubuntu with 'cheaper' desktops
02:33 mhz obviously, everyone is welcome to join and cover current list of chapter and if needed, add new ones, as long as deadlines are ok
02:33 ogra rodarvus, thats what i say since months ... th edocteam insists that it needs to be SVN
02:33 flint rodarvus, docbox.flint.com is a bzr repository if you need one.
02:33 rodarvus hopefully this would be better than using a non-oficial svn repo
02:33 highvoltage mhz: cheaper? or older? ;)
02:33 rodarvus flint, my point is not bzr vs svn
02:33 rodarvus but official vs non-official
02:33 ogra rodarvus, apparently there is a svn to docbook interface which bzr is missing
02:33 mhz rodarvus: dure, but Susan pointed that there have been several diff opininons from Doc-Team
02:34 mhz highvoltage: hehehe, lighter
02:34 rodarvus it gives users, developers and documentation people a better message if we stick to official repositories
02:34 rodarvus instead of dropping stuff "somewhere else"
02:34 flint rodarvus, I never undertsood official, big personal issue... :^)
02:34 mhz the good thing is that contributors won't be forced to use DocBook
02:34 mhz they can send TXT or OOO
02:35 rodarvus flint, official on this case can be understood as hosted on the same facilities as the rest of the Ubuntu (and Edubuntu) projects
02:35 mhz and someone else will make it DocBoob
02:35 mhz k
02:35 rodarvus sharing administration personnel, backup, etc
02:35 rodarvus for instance -> is there a backup policy on the svn repo we're using?
02:35 flint rodarvus, be careful what you wish for. DC-LOCO has had big stability problems at the Cannonical site.
02:35 rodarvus what happens if the svn database is corrupted somehow?
02:36 rodarvus flint, then this is an issue that needs care and attention
02:36 mhz rodarvus: Susan informed us that all opinions (diff ones) have been "official opinions" so we have not had a "YEs, let's use BZR"
02:36 rodarvus people are being paid to make sure DC is in good shape
02:36 rodarvus mhz, again, my point is not a bzr vs svn one
02:37 mhz sorry, true. we have not been formally said to use official repos
02:37 flint rodarvus, they say money is the root of all evil :^)
02:37 mhz but, i am just giving Susan's info
02:38 flint he he
02:38 rodarvus mhz, finally, note that I'm in no position to "tell" the documentation team to use anything
02:38 mhz sure, me neither ;)
02:38 rodarvus I'm just suggesting we use ubuntu facilities to host the repostory
02:38 rodarvus for obvious reasons: we won't have to care about stuff which we shouldn't need to (backup, administration, recovery, maintenance, etc)
02:38 ogra rodarvus, i think there was a security prob with hosting it in the DC if svn is used
02:39 mhz but susan said every EHB meeting there is someone else from DocTeam stating diff ideas about we being able to use official repos or not
02:39 ogra thats why they got a separate server
02:39 flint rodarvus, and I was merely hoping to challange the authority structure by offering a viable (and stable) alternative... Welcome to FITS.
=== mhz would also prefer to use official repos, and i guess all EHB people would agree too
02:40 RichEd is that all for docs & art & sounds then ?
02:40 rodarvus mhz, what is the svn plugin you use to grok docbook?
02:41 rodarvus RichEd, docs
02:41 RichEd rodarvus: yes we jumped from art back into docs
02:41 mhz Personally, on a side topic of EHB, I am surprised this meeting was held by only 3 people mostly (and maybe 2 other), when a task like EHB will need lots of love and hands
02:41 rodarvus artwork hasn't been dealt on this meeting with yet, I think
02:41 ogra nope it hasnt ...
02:41 RichEd we had a bit from cbx33 earlier:
02:42 ogra aart from cbx33 throwing in he has something
02:42 rodarvus RichEd, sorry for that, I had questions regarding doc, still
02:42 ogra *apart
02:42 mhz rodarvus: i can't tell you right now. I will get SVN on this pc today.
02:42 flint rodarvus, IMHO, the methods of documentation need to be separated from the process. I would recommend that we concentrate on the documentation process and ignore the whole repository issue.
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02:42 rodarvus flint, mhz: ok, up to you really
02:42 ogra flint, to loose all we have because of a broken backup if the server crashes ?
02:42 ogra :P
02:42 rodarvus but be ready to recover if server or svn repo breaks :)
02:43 ogra yeah
02:43 ogra but that discussion really belongs to a docteam meeting :)
02:43 rodarvus anyhow, sorry for the noise, guys
02:44 flint ogra, authors are vain folks (I know this :^) they keep backups locally...
02:44 cbx33 hi all
02:44 cbx33 sorry
02:44 ogra we pay 4 ppl in the DC to do that for us :)
02:44 cbx33 I just had 17 emails from a client with changes to a website
02:45 mhz rodarvus: i appreciate your concerns and beleive me, I would also prefer official repos...at least we'll be able to blame it on someone else if we lose everything :D
02:45 cbx33 totally 70Mb of data
02:45 cbx33 brb
02:45 cbx33 I saw my name mentioned
02:45 cbx33 oh yeh
02:45 cbx33 eeek
02:45 ogra cbx33, yes, you said you have something wrt artwork to say
02:45 cbx33 brb
02:45 flint ogra, see comment about money and evil earlier...
02:45 cbx33 I said Lisa was working hard on bringing all the ideas together
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02:45 RichEd <cbx33> On the artwork side
02:45 RichEd <cbx33> lisa is busy reading emails and collating ideas
02:45 RichEd <ogra> cbx33, so post it if we are at art ;)
02:45 RichEd <cbx33> nothing to post
02:45 ogra ok
02:46 cbx33 she has been trying to keep up with the ubuntu-art ML
02:46 cbx33 that's one busy list
02:46 cbx33 :p
02:46 ogra yep
02:46 mhz rodarvus: and if possible, I'd love to know about OLPC plandsfor edubuntu, later.
02:46 rodarvus on artwork related business -> I talked with my wife, she created a LaunchPad account last night, and is willing (and eager) to help on our artwork effort
02:46 cbx33 rodarvus, excellent
02:46 ogra yay
02:46 rodarvus she would just like to know where to start, whom to talk to, etc
02:46 ogra we'll get a team !
02:46 cbx33 point her to lisa
02:47 RichEd mhz: re OLPC ... some news from Thailand ... will share later
02:47 ogra lets give lisa some time to spec out what we'll get :)
02:47 mhz Is this the time to ask about procedures for LoCo artwrok and docs?
02:48 rodarvus cbx33, I'd like to put lisa & jane to talk - lets us talk after meeting to see how to do it better
02:48 ogra mhz, whats the problem ? should all be done through rosetta
02:48 flint OLPC was big presentation at NELS in New Hampshire... The question was could they boot as thin clients... or is it all Sugar?
02:48 rodarvus they can boot as thin clients, but are not very useful this way
02:48 flint RichEd, I understood from the conference that the OLPC OS - Sugar is a Red hat production...
02:49 ogra flint, you wont be able to buy them ... whats the usecase for having them as thin clients then ?
02:49 rodarvus as their wifi network card is really slow (2mb/s)
02:49 rodarvus their wifi is slow to preserve battery life
02:49 flint rodarvus, I agree with Olli how do you boot them via the silly rf net?
02:49 ogra you cant
02:50 ogra there is no way to use wifi cards without having a kernel locally .... for ltsp at least
02:50 flint ogra, I got to get one in the lab before I say can't.
02:50 ogra if they dont have a real NIC it wont work ...
02:50 mhz ogra: mainly 3 things: a) I got many requests for Bug reporting in spanish | b) Edubuntu-Cl guys would like to contribute with artwork related to Chile, as a way to motivate students and tearchers to jump in and join Edubuntu | c) Edubuntu-Cl is working on translations of ESA and Edubuntu.org
02:50 ogra no point trying it :)
02:51 ogra mhz, a has no solution in ubunt either, b use art.ubuntu.com, c should be covered by rosetta
02:52 flint ogra, I still want one in my Lab :^) would be cool!
02:52 rodarvus I can read/undestand bug reports in spanish
02:52 ogra sure ... but give up the idea of using them as thin clients :)
02:52 rodarvus though I'd probably have to answer in english
02:54 mhz ogra: a) they want to report in spanish (even via wiki) and have a trasnlation team make it into english | b) the idea was to be able to ship some artwork (thus, encourage participation from schools via contests) | c) we are using wiki to do so, and we've been talking to highvoltage in order to place translation on the website (drupal)
02:54 ogra well, b is likely a no fro CD space side
02:54 ogra *from
02:54 highvoltage hmm
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02:55 ogra and ESA translatio should really happen through the transaltion teams in rosetta
02:55 ogra thats what we have them for :)
02:56 ogra mhz, how is a hadled now ? do we have a ton of spanish bugs in malone and you file new ones with an english description or something ?
02:56 cbx33 rodarvus, sounds good
=== ogra wouldnt even know which search terms to use for spanish reports
02:57 mhz rodarvus: ogra: one of the biggest issues (at least in Chile) has been to encourage people to contribute to the projects. We have tons of users though. So, finally, I have been getting more committed hands and of course, i would not like them to leave. So, getting easier ways for them to report bugs, shipping artwrok, having them see thier work as "official" is a good way to motivate.
02:57 mhz ogra: iirc, we have zero bug reporting from people who dont write english
02:58 rodarvus mhz, I agree
02:58 ogra mhz, we had 20MB free in the beginning of the cycle ... 5 were used up right away by core changes ... 10 will be used by adding mono, f-spot and tomboy to main ... there is not much left
02:58 rodarvus one suggestion is for us to make use of LOCO teams heavily in this case
02:58 rodarvus is there an Ubuntu Chile LOCO team?
02:58 ajmitch ogra: do you have to have mono, f-spot etc? can't they just go on the ubuntu cd only?
02:59 ajmitch as useful as they may be
02:59 ogra in any case translations should be handled by translation teams ... make the edubuntu-cl guys joind them
02:59 mhz rodarvus: yup, but very informal still
02:59 ogra ajmitch, not sure yet
02:59 rodarvus mhz, time to formalize it, then :)
02:59 ogra ajmitch, its a matter of time i can invest into maintaining an alternative
03:00 ajmitch true
03:00 ajmitch we recounted, it'll be about 12MB for them
03:00 ogra ajmitch, for now i have to compute sizes on the current situation
03:00 mhz rodarvus: yeah, that is why i want to bring ways to motivate them.
03:00 rodarvus I'd like to spend some time studying the edubuntu seed (and also the ubuntu seed)
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03:00 ogra ideed its my first candidate for dropping
03:00 rodarvus to check if there is some space we can reclaim there
03:01 rodarvus anyhow
03:01 rodarvus guys
03:01 rodarvus we are seriously late with the meeting
03:01 ogra rodarvus, not if we dont drop desktop parts we inherit from ubuntu
03:01 ogra which would be uhmmm, unfortunately at least
03:02 ogra but lets close now and move over to #edubuntu :)
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03:02 rodarvus I believe RichEd wanted to say something here
03:02 RichEd okay : ogra can we make a time for the community issues you raised ?
03:02 ogra ok
03:02 rodarvus before the end of the meeting
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=== ogra scrolls back to see which community issue ...
03:03 RichEd and ogra & rodarvus & mhz we seriously need a chat before i go to see sabdfl & silbs
03:03 mhz okis
03:03 mhz +1
03:03 rodarvus agreed
03:03 RichEd ogra: you said you wanted to chat about something ,. but offline
03:04 mhz btw, when is next Edubuntu Council meeting? next wed?
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03:04 RichEd mhz: quick comment regarding the OLPC - Thai delay will push deadline 1 month back
03:04 ogra aug 2nd
03:05 mhz thx
03:05 rodarvus RichEd, what is the new deadline, then?
03:05 RichEd but still on track ... i am working on MOU.
03:05 RichEd Feb 2007 ...
03:05 RichEd when we have our 4 way chat, i can share more
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03:05 mhz cool
03:05 rodarvus sure
03:06 mhz RichEd: so far, just let me now when you want it and I'll do my best to make it
03:06 mhz jsgotangco: stopped smoking?
03:06 RichEd how is monday ?
03:06 ogra argh ... the logbot is broken ... only zero byte logs
03:06 jsgotangco mhz: :P
03:06 flint ogra, I just got hold of a carton of BD's from Pakastan... A very nice smoke!!!
03:07 mhz RichEd: monday should be my daughter's 1st day of school (in her life) ;)
03:07 ogra nice !
03:07 RichEd wow ... enjoy :)
03:07 RichEd i'll pop a mail to the 3 for suggestions then
03:07 rodarvus RichEd, you want a phone conference, or an irc meeting?
03:07 mhz RichEd: ho about tomorrow? 12 UTC or earlier?
03:07 RichEd IRC is easier. but we are overtime. will organise cvia mail.
03:07 flint ogra, I look forward to splitting a few with you if you have a lighter.
03:07 mhz .oO(oh, maybe too soon)
03:07 flint :^)
03:08 rodarvus we can try to go via Ekiga (using canonical voip service)
03:08 RichEd 12 UTC friday ?
03:08 rodarvus ok
03:08 RichEd or earlier ?
03:08 mhz 11 UTC?
03:08 RichEd mhz: okay with me
03:08 mhz rodarvus: ?
03:09 RichEd rodarvus: ? ogra ? Fri 11 UTC ?
=== jsgotangco is a bit dazed and confused
03:09 rodarvus 11/12 utc is ok for me
03:09 RichEd okay will confirm via mail.
03:09 mhz okis
03:09 mhz thc RichEd
03:09 RichEd i'm done here now.
03:09 ogra RichEd, if they didt shut down the dsl in my old house yet (they are not supposed t but i dont trust them)
03:09 mhz x
03:10 RichEd okay.
03:10 flint ogra, Ollie did you already move? I am still in the middle of it!
=== mhz moves back to #edubuntu
03:10 RichEd did anyone log this meeting locally & can send mail to me ?
03:10 ogra flint, me too
03:10 ogra flint, i'm about to pick up my truck ...
03:10 mhz RichEd: I will send it
=== mhz will check immediately he really lhas log
03:11 flint ogra, How come you Germans get to have all the fun? I want a truck!
03:11 flint :^)
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03:12 rodarvus any other topic someone would like to raise, or should this meeting be adjourned?
=== jsgotangco missed the meeting completely it seems
03:12 ogra flint, rent one (costs me 100/day)
03:12 mhz rodarvus: I have another topic but I can raise it on #edubuntu if ok
03:13 flint ogra, I hate moving. You will be down for days!
03:13 RichEd going once
03:13 RichEd going twice
03:13 ogra flint, not as i do it ...
03:13 RichEd meeting closed ... resume any threads in #edubuntuEdubuntu/Meetings/Logs/2006-07-26 (last edited 2009-10-14 19:39:22 by 95)