2007-08-22
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This is the Edubuntu Team Meeting, started on 22 August 2007, 12H00 - 14H00 (Etc/GMT).
Attendance
- ogra
- juliux
- gpocentek
- highvoltage
Agenda
- Technical
- Where are we in the development cycle:
- What was the last deadline?
- What is the next deadline ?
- Progress over the last week?
- Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline.
- Issues needing assistance for the next deadline.
- Any Other Items under Artwork.
- Any Other Items under Documentation.
- Planned Activities for coming week.
- Where are we in the development cycle:
Minutes
- Where are we in the development cycle?
- ogra reports back as follows:
- General
- Done:
- lots of screensaver fixing for thin client usage (fixed several crashers, no graphics intensive modes being used anymore and no fading).
- lots of merges and code reviews of ltsp/ldm code (still more ahead).
- set spec status where possible (see list below).
- Ahead:
- TCM needs a lot of love (fixing the user list functions to get it going with new ldm, easier vnc setup for the chroot/image).
- one massive bug outstanding to be solved before tribe 6 (bug 121547).
- tribe 5 planned for this Thursday, please help tesing.
- poking around with libflashsupport to get it to multiverse (flash sound on thin clients).
- get moodle status from moquist (no news yet, he contacted pitti about postgres db creation scripts).
- Done:
- Specs
- Implemented:
- ltsp-boot-performance.
- ldm-improvements.
- fully-automatic-swapserver.
ldm-loadbalancing -> vagrant to set status.
- Deferred for gutsy+1:
- ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices.
- gphoto-ltspfs.
- ltsp-update-manager-integration.
ltsp-management-gui -> (hope to get global settings going at least).
- ltsp-fat-clients.
ltsp-local-apps -> sbalneav to set status.
- Unknown:
ltsp-palm-devices -> sbalneav to report status.
- Implemented:
- General
- ogra reports back as follows:
- Where we are in the dev cycle?
- ogra noted that the last deadline was UVF/feature freeze.
- ogra noted that upstresam version freeze, nothing new can enter main anymore.
- What is the next deadline ... item and date?
orga noted that feature freeze is no new features can be adeed anymore (same exception rules) & next immediate dealine is tribe5 (thursday).
- Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline?
- ogra noted that the next important deadline is beta release.
NOTE: bug 121547 needs to be solved before next tribe release.
- tribe6, archive is friozen this week until tribe5 is out.
ACTION: orga to squash bug 121547.
- Issues needing assistance for the next deadline?
- ogra noted that having two tribe releases instead of one before beta doesn't help here.
- moodle is still in the clouds, no feedback from mmoquist yet apart from him saying he wants to have it ready.
- sbalneav and vagrant need to clean up their spec statuses.
ACTION: 'ogra to follow up with sbalneav & vagrant.
- Artwork
ACTION: Jill to complete abstract concept for the default desktop.
NOTE: Final freeze for artwork: 20th September 2007.
- Documentation
- ogra noted that scott is currently busy with the documentation.
- General
- How do we get more users at the meeting?
- German Ubucon
juliux noted that the time and date will be: 20-21 October 2007, Krefeld/Germany
Any Other Business
- None reported.
IRC Logs
02:02 RichEd hi all ... start in 1 min ... 02:02 juliux ogra, ubotu is not here;) 02:02 ogra ah 02:03 RichEd Okay ... here is a test version of the agenda for Edubuntu-Devel ... the old tech part of the 2 hour meeting. 02:03 RichEd * 02:03 RichEd Technical 02:03 RichEd o 02:03 RichEd Where are we in the development cycle: 02:03 RichEd + 02:03 RichEd What was the last deadline ? 02:03 RichEd # 02:03 RichEd Item 02:03 RichEd # 02:03 RichEd Date 02:03 RichEd + 02:03 RichEd What is the next deadline ? 02:03 RichEd # 02:03 RichEd Item 02:03 RichEd # 02:03 RichEd Date 02:03 RichEd o 02:03 RichEd Progress over the last week 02:03 RichEd o 02:03 RichEd Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline 02:03 RichEd o 02:03 RichEd Issues needing assistance for the next deadline 02:03 RichEd o 02:03 RichEd Any Other Items under Artwork 02:03 RichEd o 02:04 RichEd Any Other Items under Documentation 02:04 RichEd o 02:04 RichEd Planned Activities for coming week 02:04 RichEd let's try this out today and see if it works ... I'll drive the agenda. 02:04 RichEd ogra: Where are we in the development cycle ? 02:04 RichEd What was the last deadline ? 02:04 RichEd Item 02:04 RichEd Date 02:04 RichEd ?? 02:04 RichEd sorry about the shody paste ... wiki cut & paste adds line breaks :( 02:04 RichEd *shoddy 02:05 ogra well, lets see if my paste is better then :) 02:05 ogra == General == 02:05 ogra Done: 02:05 ogra - lots of screensaver fixing for thin client usage (fixed several crashers, no graphics intensive modes being used anymore and no fading) 02:05 ogra - lots of merges and code reviews of ltsp/ldm code (still more ahead) 02:05 ogra - set spec staus where possible (see list below) 02:05 ogra Ahead: 02:05 ogra - TCM needs a lot of love (fixing the userlist functions to get it going with new ldm, easier vnc setup for the chroot/image) 02:05 ogra - one massive bug outstanding to be solved before tribe 6 (bug 121547) 02:05 ogra - tribe 5 planned for this thursday, please help tesing 02:05 ogra - poking around with libflashsupport to get it to multiverse (flash sound on thin clients) 02:06 ogra - get moodle status from moquist (no news yet, he contacted pitti about postgres db creation scripts) 02:06 ogra == Specs == 02:06 ogra Implemented: 02:06 ogra - ltsp-boot-performance 02:06 ogra - ldm-improvements 02:06 ogra - fully-automatic-swapserver 02:06 ogra - ldm-loadbalancing -> vagrant to set status 02:06 ogra Deferred for gutsy+1: 02:06 ogra - ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices 02:06 ogra - gphoto-ltspfs 02:06 ogra - ltsp-update-manager-integration 02:06 ogra - ltsp-management-gui -> (hope to get global settings going at least) 02:06 ogra - ltsp-fat-clients 02:06 ogra - ltsp-local-apps -> sbalneav to set status 02:06 ogra Unknown: 02:06 ogra - ltsp-palm-devices -> sbalneav to report status 02:06 ogra i'll try to maintain such a report in the future, should keep the tech part short 02:07 RichEd that's great :) ... will be easy to make minutes & action list out of that ... 02:07 zul ./topic 02:07 zul sorry 02:07 ogra right 02:07 ogra zul, ubotu is gone, so no topic updates atm ... 02:07 RichEd can we work through my section suggestions ... to see how it fits together ... I still think we need contest as to where we are in the dev cycle (I know I do) :) 02:07 ogra (edubuntu meeting now) 02:07 RichEd What was the last deadline ? 02:08 RichEd What is the next deadline ? 02:08 ogra no idea ? 02:08 RichEd I mean in terms of the dev cycle ... last one was tribe 4 ? 02:08 gpocentek ogra: I think I have a libflashsupport somewhere if it can help 02:08 gpocentek a package* 02:08 ogra last deadline was UVF/feature freeze 02:09 ogra gpocentek, i have one ready already, but it was rejected, the one from the EdubuntuFAQ is horribly packaged 02:09 RichEd ah ... and explain that in 1 sentence for the technically challenged ... what is UVF ? 02:09 ogra i need to get it going with gnutls instead of libssl etc to get it included 02:09 gpocentek ogra: ok 02:09 ogra upstresam version freeze 02:09 ogra nothing new can enter main anymore 02:09 RichEd :) thanks 02:10 ogra (unless you do a bit of paperwork and get a review) 02:10 RichEd and what is the next deadline ... item and date ? 02:10 ogra feture freeze is no new features can be adeed anymore (same exception rules) 02:10 ogra next immediate dealine is tribe5 (thursday) 02:10 RichEd * Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline ? 02:10 ogra next important deadline is beta release 02:11 ogra bug 121547 needs to be solved before next tribe release 02:11 toutouff I've got a problem with pbuilder, could you help me ? 02:11 ogra (tribe6, archive is friozen this week until tribe5 is out) 02:11 ogra toutouff, we're in the middle of a meeting and this is no support channel, try #ubuntu-motu 02:12 toutouff sorry, wrong channel 02:12 toutouff :/ 02:12 RichEd ogra: quick summary of the bug ? and what needs to be done to squash it ? 02:12 ogra i need to rewrite the installed bits for ltsp 02:13 RichEd and will you be able to manage in time for the deadline ? 02:13 ogra https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/121547 02:13 ogra at least for beta i can guarantee it ... cant promise it for tribe 6 02:13 ogra but i'll do my best 02:13 RichEd * Issues needing assistance for the next deadline ? 02:13 ogra having two tribe releases instead of one before beta doesnt help here :/ 02:14 RichEd can anyone help you with that bug or anything else ? 02:14 ogra not wi5th that bug, no 02:14 ogra i listed actions above where others are required 02:15 ogra moodle is still in the clouds, no feedback from mmoquist yet apart from him saying he wants to have it ready 02:15 ogra sbalneav and vagrant need to clean up theoir spec statuses 02:15 RichEd will you prod them, or will it help if i ask nicely as well :) 02:15 ogra beyond that i get all help i can get from scottie during this bugfixing phase 02:16 ogra i'll go after them, all fine 02:16 highvoltage ogra: is vagrant doing full-time ltsp now? 02:16 ogra no 02:16 ogra he's doing freegek 02:16 ogra *freegeek 02:16 highvoltage ah 02:17 ogra he still didnt get his stuff sorted 02:17 RichEd * Any Other Items under Artwork 02:18 ogra anyway, thats all from tech side, any other questions ? 02:18 ogra not yet ... i'll need to tackle the artwork package and do some cleanups .. but thats for tribe6 02:18 RichEd Fine ... Jill mailed to say thanks for the feedback in the meeting last week. 02:18 ogra scott is already preparing docs for the new ltsp stuff we have 02:19 RichEd I mentioned the abstract concept for the default desktop, and she said she would try to complete some she had started. 02:19 ogra good 02:19 ogra i'm fine with the one we have as "young" flavor 02:19 RichEd When is the final freeze for artwork ? 02:19 RichEd official and unofficial ;) 02:19 ogra (the logo could be a bit less in the face though) 02:20 RichEd are you talking about her sample ? the logo comment ? 02:20 highvoltage RichEd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule 02:20 ogra sept 20th is final 02:20 ogra yes 02:20 ogra i'm talking about the sample 02:20 RichEd okay ... i'll add that to the comment page she is working off 02:20 ogra the logo is very huge and to much in the face imho 02:21 RichEd I wanted to give her samples of all of the old default desktops we shipped, but art.ubuntu.com is out of action 02:21 RichEd So I have given her the 2 I have access to ... LTS and feisty 02:21 ogra osdir ususally has a bunch 02:21 RichEd osdir ? not familiar with that ? 02:21 ogra LTS was the chalkboard ... 02:21 ogra osdir.com 02:21 RichEd okay will check for more ... 02:22 ogra edgy and feisty were the best ones we had yet 02:22 RichEd * Any Other Items under Documentation 02:22 ogra as i said, scott is on it and i'll review 02:22 RichEd okay ... is that it for tech then ? anyone with questions ? 02:23 RichEd Okay .... some general discussion for people who are interested: 02:23 RichEd * how do we get more users at the meeting ? 02:24 RichEd I can advertise in the mail list, but I need to get an idea of what topics will pull people in to attend. 02:24 juliux RichEd, for me one meeting per weeks is too much 02:25 juliux RichEd, if it would be only once a month then there could be more topics and more people 02:25 ogra juliux, well, we have different people at the differently scheduled meetings 02:25 RichEd juliux: so would you suggest tech every week, and users once a month ? 02:25 juliux RichEd, yes 02:25 RichEd If we have a edubuntu-users section of the meeting, we can start some debate / poll topics on the mail list, and then meet to discuss monthly ? 02:25 RichEd so keep it down to 1 hour per week for tech & general dev ... 02:25 ogra one in the evening and one in the morning 02:26 juliux ogra, that is also fine 02:26 ogra and we need to find a solution for EC if we do that as well 02:26 RichEd that would work for me as well ... every second week ... 02:26 RichEd but then we are always at the same time ... no variance for the US people 02:26 ogra RichEd, twice a month with alternating times 02:26 ogra as we have iot now, but skip two a month 02:27 RichEd perhaps first meeting of the month ... and do the EC stuff ... and then 3 weeks after that ? 02:27 RichEd that will alternate the times ? 02:27 ogra yeah 02:27 juliux RichEd, one meeting in the morning one in the evening;) 02:28 RichEd okay, let me look at the dates coming up ... and play a bit and then make some suggestions 02:28 ogra good 02:28 RichEd pips1 is not here for community 02:29 RichEd I have nothing else to discuss for today ... and some conference calls coming up ... 02:29 RichEd Anyone else with topics / questions ? 02:29 juliux yeah 02:29 juliux i want to invite you all the german ubucon;) we will have an extra education track 02:29 RichEd great :) 02:30 RichEd have you got a fridge article up ? 02:30 juliux RichEd, yes 02:30 RichEd and did you send a mail to the edubuntu lists ? 02:30 juliux RichEd, there will be an other if the programm is online 02:30 juliux RichEd, that will come next week 02:30 RichEd good ... what sort of audience are you expecting ? size and type of person ? 02:31 RichEd and give the dates and locations here in the channel, so it can go in the minutes 02:31 juliux we hope betwenn 200 and 500 people 02:31 juliux and there will we everything from developer over normal users to newbies 02:31 RichEd all linux converts already, or some people looking to jump in ? 02:31 juliux date is 20. and 21. october in krefeld/germany 02:32 juliux we think some new people 02:32 juliux the university will invite local schools 02:32 RichEd do you need any more material / presentations / ubuntu stuff ? 02:32 juliux we only need talks;) 02:32 cliebow__ ttfn 02:33 RichEd I have a presentation on Edubuntu reference cases ... if someone is prepared to speak on that, I can help them with the slides ? 02:34 RichEd okay ... any other issues for today ? 02:34 RichEd ogra ... are you okay to wind up now ? 02:34 juliux RichEd, cool 02:34 ogra sure :) 02:34 RichEd going once ... 02:34 RichEd going twice ... 02:35 RichEd BONG ... thanks all