Launchpad Entry: other-foundations-n-backports-notautomatic
Created: November 26, 2009
Contributors: ScottKitterman, MichaelVogt, ScottRitchie
Packages affected: update-manager, apt, kpackagekit, software center
Users should only get applications (and required dependencies) from backports that they select and not all installed packages that have a backports candidate.
The behavior of the backports section of 11.04 has changed from previous releases. Now, only packages you specifically ask to have updated from backports (and needed dependency updates). The means that if you choose to use backports, you can leave backports enabled to get updates of the packages you've decided you want from backports without having to worry about inadvertently getting packages you don't want too.
This change is important for making backports safer for the average users to use. It also eliminates one comparative advantage the other package update services from outside the repository have had over Ubuntu Backports. If people are going to update past what we provide in the release, we would much rather they stay within the Ubuntu trust boundary to acquire newer packages.
This change resolves one long standing end user complaint about Ubuntu Backports.
Jane really needs a feature in the new version of Gimp and sees that it is available in lucid-backports. She enabled lucid-backports, selects gimp from backports, and updates it. She is pleased to see she isn't inundated with offers of lots of updates she neither needs not wants. She is a careful user and wants to stay with the supported packages in the release as much as she can.
John is well known for wanting the latest of every kind of crack on his machine. He opens update-manager, selects all the backports, and updates. He is happy.
Set backports pockets to be "NotAutomatic" so that backports can be enabled and no packages are automatically installed. Enhance upgrade-manager (and kpackagekit) to allow backports packages to be separately displayed and selectable. Fix the apt resolver to be able to pull dependencies from a backports when needed.
- add code to update-manager so that it looks that the version list if it comes accross pin priority 1: DONE
- show priority one as available but unticked: DONE
- fix apt resolver so that it is able to resolve A depends B where B has a pin priority of 1 (and no candidate): TODO
enable NotAutomatic: yes on the archive server for backports: TODO
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This need not be added or completed until the specification is nearing beta.
BoF agenda and discussion
Problem: we get a lot of backport requests in LTS, but enabling backports enables all of them.
Goal: To enable backports by default, but not install anything from it unless user indicates they want it. Dependencies would come when not met by regular archive.
Google did something similar with this internally. One problem is you need to be able to tell who deliberately upgraded to a backport and who was pushed their automatically. -- Google did it by setting pin priority for backports below normal (save an accident where pin was wrong and everyone got the backport)
Non-automatic flag in RELEASE file: leaves it unchecked by default in update manager. --problem: dependencies and the apt resolver --problem: current situation user learns what backports are as they enable them; having them clickable by default means we need to worry about explaining what they are within update manager
Some code in: lp:~mvo/update-manager/not-automatic (worth examining doing a change of the default release)
Need to fix apt resolver to pull depends from backports if they can't be satisfied from the release pocket (if the package requesting the dependencies is also from backports)
- fix apt resolver OR
- modify update manager: allow it to show non-automatic upgrades (ones with higher version numbers and lower pin priority)
- other option: modify default RELEASE -- Michael Vogt
- discuss with design team how to opt in to backports and proposed (risk in proposed is higher but it sounds better): Scott Ritchie
FoundationsTeam/Specs/BackportsNotAutomatic (last edited 2010-10-19 15:42:42 by static-72-81-252-21)