IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-04-21

2010-04-21

The Ubuntu Ireland IRC meeting was held at 8pm Irish time on Wednesday 21st April 2010, on #ubuntu-ie on FreeNode. MootBot was used to take minutes. The MootBot minutes are here (http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-ie.20100421_1405.html) and the logs are here (http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-ie.log.20100421_1405.html). Since MootBot is in a different timezone from Ireland, the times on the minutes are not Irish time.

Attendance

ebel
slashtom
airurando
ignus
tdr112
kobrien
cduffin
czajkowski
ubot3

lau1

Agenda

Agenda item	Proposer
Ubuntu Ireland Website	ebel
Ubuntu Leadership Code of Conduct	ebel
Geeknic and Lucid Lynx Release Party	tdr
Where to get started helping out in Ubuntu	czajkowski
opensourceireland.org	kobrien
please add	please add

Minutes

Meeting started by ebel at 14:05
14:08:12        Topic: Ubuntu Ireland Website
14:24:49        AGREED  ebel    the wiki stays
14:28:04        Topic:
14:28:21        Topic: Ubuntu Leadership Code of Conduct
14:28:41        LINK    czajkowski      https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392976
14:30:22        LINK    czajkowski      https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/ubuntu-leadership-code-of-conduct-should-be-signed-by-loco-team-leaders
14:36:41        Topic: Geeknic and Lucid Lynx Release Party
14:37:59        LINK    tdr112  http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/node/95
14:49:38        Topic: Where to get started helping out in Ubuntu
15:05:38        Topic: opensourceireland.org
15:12:59        LINK    kobrien         http://twitter.com/osireland
15:19:33        Topic: any other business?
15:25:32        Topic: anything else?
Meeting ended at 15:25.

Any Other Business

The following topics were raised in the meeting

Agenda item

Proposer

IRC LOGS

Started logging meeting in #ubuntu-ie
[14:05:31] <ebel> Welcome to the April 2010 Ubuntu Ireland IRC Meeting
[14:05:39] <ebel> Please say PRESENT if you're here
[14:05:44] <slashtom> PRESENT
[14:05:45] <ebel> e.g.
[14:05:47] <ebel> PRESENT
[14:05:49] <airurando> PRESENT
[14:05:52] <ignus> PRESENT :D
[14:06:16] <ebel> The wiki page for this meeting is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-04-21
[14:06:21] <ebel> That has the agenda.
[14:07:03] <tdr112> PRESENT
[14:08:12] <ebel> [topic] Ubuntu Ireland Website
[14:08:17] <ebel> I added it to the agenda
[14:08:39] <ebel> As you know, the website is here http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/
[14:08:55] <ebel> We have an offer of hosting from Blackknight.
[14:09:11] <ebel> and kobrien (who doesn't seem here) offered to be the webmaster
[14:09:39] <slashtom> may i make a suggestion, that we should have just one website?
[14:09:43] <kobrien> woops
[14:09:44] <kobrien> here
[14:09:49] <kobrien> present
[14:10:07] <tdr112> slashtom: you mean get rid of the wiki?
[14:10:07] <ebel> the reason for getting a new website is that the one on ubuntu-ie.org is an old drupal install, some things don't work on it, and people want a better website
[14:10:21] <tdr112> ical feeds dont work on it
[14:10:33] <slashtom> yes tdr112
[14:11:01] <cduffin> Emmmm... ubuntu-ie's feed works... are you talking about pulling other feeds?
[14:11:02] <tdr112> i did say it before its a bit all over the place
[14:11:29] <slashtom> aye, i have been posting events to at least 2 (if not more) places
[14:11:33] <ebel> cduffin: I tried adding the events to google calendar, and it didn't work
[14:11:40] <slashtom> one website should be enough for one group
[14:11:53] <tdr112> cduffin: there is a bug in it that it does not pull into google calendar
[14:11:55] <tdr112> ]
[14:11:56] <cduffin> ebel: google calendar seems funny about iCal feeds
[14:12:00] <ebel> slashtom: how should we plan irc meetings on the website?
[14:12:11] <cduffin> It won't pull the opensourceireland.org one either
[14:12:23] <cduffin> but osi pulls ubuntu-ies fine
[14:12:30] <tdr112> the new drupal works with the google one
[14:12:37] <kobrien> PRESENT
[14:12:41] <kobrien> if it needs to be caps
[14:13:01] <ebel> kobrien: Nah, it doesn't have to be capital PRESENT. Just so long as you talk, you're noticed on the minutes
[14:13:13] <kobrien> ebel: ah, ok
[14:13:24] <airurando> I think the current website is limited in other ways.
[14:13:25] <ebel> merging all sites into one is a decent idea, it's a bit messy now
[14:13:47] <czajkowski> aloha
[14:13:51] <tdr112> cduffin: it does work
[14:13:56] <ebel> I wonder if there's any benefit to using the same site as all the other ubuntu stiuff (i.e. using the wiki)
[14:13:59] <cduffin> ebel: excuse my ignorance, what sites are you referring to?
[14:14:09] <airurando> we cannot have our own instance of etherpad or stuff like that
[14:14:14] <tdr112> but we did need the wiki for the team reports to be pulled into the main report page
[14:14:24] <ebel> cduffin: 'website' http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/ 'wiki': https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam
[14:14:32] <kobrien> I think opensourceireland is working off the idea that every group will still have their own website
[14:14:37] <cduffin> ebel: cheers
[14:15:01] <ebel> cduffin: it means if there is a new event, someone has go and add details of it to several different places.
[14:15:04] <cduffin> kobrien: indeed, although if others feel we should expand on that, I'm open to ideas
[14:15:12] <kobrien> right
[14:15:32] <ebel> We also use the wiki for IRC Meetings. I dunno what we'd do for that on the website.
[14:15:44] <cduffin> ebel: hence the iCal aggregator on opensourceireland.org
[14:15:48] <ebel> tdr112: good point about the team reports
[14:16:56] <slashtom> what if the main site redirects to the wiki?
[14:17:58] <tdr112> can we get by with just a wiki
[14:18:13] <ebel> one option would be to strip down the wiki, make a pile of pages just say "Check the website"
[14:18:36] <tdr112> better linking back and forward would slove a lot of it
[14:18:41] <cduffin> you could look at some way of pulling the wiki content into a drupal site
[14:19:08] <slashtom> tdr112: do you think the wiki is enough?
[14:19:25] <ebel> aaaaaaanyway, all I wanted to say was that we should be getting our own hosting, and kobrien has offered to be the webmaster.
[14:19:38] <kobrien> indeed
[14:19:39] <ebel> I would assume kobrien is OK with other people helping if they want, right?
[14:19:47] <airurando> can we not move the entire site from its current location to blacknight
[14:19:48] <czajkowski> this s the onlt team I know of that has an issue with wiki and website
[14:19:55] <kobrien> ebel: of course
[14:20:03] <ebel> airurando: that's pretty much what we're going to do.
[14:20:16] <czajkowski> sorry I'm late I fell asleep
[14:20:20] <cduffin> Is blacknight offering free hosting?
[14:20:28] <ebel> Remember it's everyone's site. Everyone can have input.
[14:20:28] <czajkowski> cduffin: yes
[14:21:07] <ebel> But one should still just get down and do it. "He who does, wins the argument" :P
[14:21:25] <ebel> czajkowski: haven't heard anything more from blackknight anyway...
[14:21:32] <ebel> s/anyway/in a bit/
[14:21:44] <czajkowski> well I'll poke him tomoroww
[14:22:26] <ebel> the other question that's come up is "should we get rid of the wiki?"......
[14:22:35] <czajkowski> N O
[14:22:36] <tdr112> we need the wiki
[14:22:40] <czajkowski> lordie
[14:22:59] <czajkowski> its the one of the things the cunfcil check s for
[14:23:05] <czajkowski> it has all of the details of the team
[14:23:10] <kobrien> keep the wiki so
[14:23:12] <slashtom> ok, then can we avoid duplication of things on the wiki and main website?
[14:23:12] <czajkowski> searched via the main wiki.u.c
[14:23:37] <ebel> czajkowski: that's what I figured.
[14:24:02] <czajkowski> dear gods I've teams fighting to get hosting on the .org and ye dont want it
[14:24:07] <czajkowski> tis rather odd
[14:24:46] <airurando> czajkowski: I agree. I want it.
[14:24:49] <ebel> [agreed] the wiki stays
[14:25:09] <ebel> czajkowski: oh yes, we are just thinking out load for options to problems
[14:25:36] <czajkowski> you coukld make the site much more fun like adding a gallery
[14:25:47] <czajkowski> showin off stuff from past events
[14:25:51] <czajkowski> making it more than the wiki
[14:26:06] * slashtom suggests czajkowski adds a gallery ;)
[14:26:06] <czajkowski> wiki should be used for brain storing and working on items for the team
[14:26:35] <czajkowski> slashtom: I think we both know I'm not dev but I'l happily find plugins
[14:27:49] <ebel> aaaaanyway
[14:27:52] <ebel> so we need the wiki
[14:27:55] <ebel> and we are getting a website
[14:28:00] <kobrien> yup
[14:28:02] <ebel> next
[14:28:04] <ebel> [topic]
[14:28:21] <ebel> [topic] Ubuntu Leadership Code of Conduct
[14:28:32] <slashtom> we have a leader?
[14:28:41] <czajkowski> [link] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392976
[14:28:41] <ebel> yes, so as you there's the ubuntu code of conduct
[14:28:42] <ebel> !coc
[14:28:43] <ubot3> Malone bug 392976 in ubuntu-community "Leadership CoC not given to LoCo Leads" [Medium,Confirmed]
[14:28:44] <ubot3> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .
[14:28:45] <tdr112> we have a poc
[14:29:11] * czajkowski puts on her loco council hat for this topics
[14:29:12] <ebel> I recently became away of the leadershop CoC http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct
[14:29:27] <czajkowski> I tbought this up last night at the loco council meeting it's been decieded 2 tings
[14:29:38] <ebel> I and the PoC, the Point of Contact for the ubuntu-ie team
[14:29:44] <czajkowski> 1- council define leader better as this translates differently
[14:29:55] <czajkowski> 2- work out how we can intergrate signing of the LCoc
[14:30:22] <czajkowski> [link]https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/ubuntu-leadership-code-of-conduct-should-be-signed-by-loco-team-leaders
[14:30:24] <ebel> Both myself, and Mean-Machine, the previous PoC, always had the idea that we were not "leaders", that we had no authority more than any other member
[14:30:37] <czajkowski> everyone can sign up to add comments on the bug and follow the blueprint
[14:30:41] <czajkowski> we ar working on a solution
[14:30:51] <tdr112> why sign it ?
[14:31:27] <czajkowski> tdr112: we have a number of cases were folks in charge of areas such as the team, website, mailing list do stuff that isn't very friendly
[14:31:42] <czajkowski> and it's just an extra step to sign
[14:31:46] <ebel> So ubuntu-ie doesn't really have a leader (IMO)
[14:32:00] <ebel> The LCoC is basically like the CoC, but more so.
[14:32:05] <tdr112> and by signing it , this will stop?
[14:32:17] <czajkowski> ebel: as I've said yer the same as UK the word needs to be better defined as POC translaes to team leader
[14:32:38] <kobrien> clarification; which ones of us should sign it?
[14:32:44] <czajkowski> tdr112: there are parts of it we can point to such as graceful stepping down in certain cirumstances
[14:32:53] <czajkowski> kobrien: see this is also the thing
[14:32:57] <czajkowski> we're looking at saying
[14:33:04] <czajkowski> and this is still being discussied
[14:33:09] <czajkowski> we only brought it up last night
[14:33:10] <ebel> kobrien: basically, we don't knot. Who should sign the LCoC? Who knots...
[14:33:11] <tdr112> why is there two of them
[14:33:24] <czajkowski> but anyone with a responsibility should sign it
[14:33:45] <czajkowski> tdr112: one is the CoC which every ubuntu member signs
[14:33:49] <kobrien> czajkowski: webmaster included?
[14:33:55] <czajkowski> the LCoc is for leadership roles
[14:33:58] <czajkowski> kobrien: possibly
[14:34:11] <czajkowski> this was only discussed last night council hasb't met yet to go over things
[14:34:15] * tdr112 does not see the point
[14:34:16] <ebel> I believe *anyone* can sign it (i.e. agree to it) if you want.
[14:34:28] <czajkowski> so tbh it really makes no difference being on this agenda as it's going to be coming from higher up
[14:34:37] <czajkowski> and we've not even had a chance to work on it
[14:34:42] <kobrien> okies
[14:35:07] <ebel> czajkowski: I will accept the title "team unleader" :P
[14:35:22] <czajkowski> ebel: I'm not gonna repeat myself again :(
[14:35:28] <czajkowski> sorry but we;ve not even met to work this out
[14:35:44] <ebel> Yeah, perhaps there's no rush on this then.
[14:35:51] <airurando> suggest we drop this discussion until guidance from council is forthcoming.
[14:36:07] <kobrien> airurando: I second this
[14:36:30] <ebel> And I can imagine that all these different teams have different structure, that makes this sort of work very frustrating
[14:36:38] <czajkowski> I would siggest EVERYone follow the bug and suscribe to the blueprint
[14:36:41] <ebel> [topic] Geeknic and Lucid Lynx Release Party
[14:36:43] <czajkowski> so you are kept up to date
[14:36:58] <ebel> that topic is from tdr112
[14:37:08] <tdr112> 8 until 10.04
[14:37:16] <tdr112> 8 days that is
[14:37:34] <tdr112> so we want to come togehter for a geeknic
[14:37:48] <slashtom> aye
[14:37:59] <tdr112> http://www.ubuntu-ie.org/node/95
[14:38:09] <tdr112> page with details on it
[14:38:30] <slashtom> if you need transport, you can buy a horse in smithfield and ride to the park
[14:39:05] <airurando> slashtom: you selling them?
[14:39:19] <tdr112> i will add more transport details tonight
[14:39:24] <ebel> yes, so join us for the geek picnic (geeknic) and the ubuntu lucid lynx release party
[14:39:25] <tdr112> to help people get there
[14:39:28] <slashtom> we have 8 people confirmed and 3 maybes http://doodle.com/zk55ktcz74id5xzs
[14:39:33] <lau1> there is good eating in a horse ;)
[14:39:45] <lau1> sorry i am late
[14:39:50] <ebel> lau1: oui oui :)
[14:40:07] <ebel> Afterward we're going to the Bull and Castle pub
[14:40:17] <slashtom> yes
[14:40:25] <airurando> I can't make geeknic due to work but will hopefully hook up with you all later in the Bull and Castle
[14:40:37] <slashtom> wet weather plan is, we still go to the pub
[14:40:47] <kobrien> I'm trying to get to Geeknic but thesis may prevent me
[14:40:52] <cduffin> so pub it is then?
[14:41:05] <czajkowski> kobrien: how inconvient of it :)
[14:41:41] <czajkowski> can the event please be added to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie
[14:41:41] <slashtom> czajkowski will also come if the volcano gods are unhappy
[14:41:53] <slashtom> 3 places!
[14:41:56] <czajkowski> no the volanon gods are to behave themselves
[14:42:12] * slashtom has posted the event to ubuntu-ie.org, the wiki, geeknic.org
[14:42:17] <slashtom> where else?
[14:42:17] <ebel> czajkowski: that's the loco directory, right?
[14:42:19] <czajkowski> yes
[14:42:34] <czajkowski> the LD should be the 2nd place all events should be posted
[14:42:34] <slashtom> also done the ILUG mailing list, the Ubuntu-ie mailing list
[14:42:36] <slashtom> why?
[14:42:45] <czajkowski> as that's where statistics will be pulled from
[14:42:52] * slashtom should be posting this event to one place only
[14:43:06] <slashtom> this is very bad information management
[14:43:22] <czajkowski> slashtom: file a bug :) but I've not heard any other team say this so I don['t know :(
[14:43:24] <ebel> czajkowski: so we *don't* need the wiki for events for the loco council people?
[14:43:26] <ebel> :P
[14:43:31] <kobrien> suggests opensourceireland.org
[14:43:38] * slashtom screams
[14:43:52] * cduffin covers ears
[14:43:58] <slashtom> kobrien: please add it to opensourceireland.org
[14:44:00] <czajkowski> kobrien: not an option
[14:44:09] <slashtom> czajkowski: please add it to LD
[14:44:16] <kobrien> czajkowski: elaborate
[14:44:24] <cduffin> the geeknic is already on osi
[14:44:30] <slashtom> grand
[14:44:57] <czajkowski> kobrien: all our evnets need to be on ubuntu places first after that I really don't mind tbh
[14:45:03] <slashtom> cduffin: is the pub specified on osi? i added it later?
[14:45:15] <cduffin> it is
[14:45:21] <slashtom> thanks
[14:45:40] * slashtom is not going to add the event anywhere else
[14:45:47] <airurando> doesn't opensourceireland.org pull from ubuntu-ie.org cal?
[14:45:52] <slashtom> if others want to post it elsewhere, they are free to do so
[14:45:57] <slashtom> and welcome to it
[14:46:05] <cduffin> airuando: it does
[14:46:08] <kobrien> czajkowski: ah, makes sense
[14:46:26] <czajkowski> I do make sense from time to time ocassionally
[14:46:42] <airurando> cduffin: no extra work there so.
[14:47:05] <cduffin> airuando: that's the idea :p
[14:47:18] <ebel> cduffin: sounds clever. Something the LD should do, instead of asking all us loco to do extra work :P
[14:47:23] <czajkowski> slashtom: I can't add it to the LD as I' m not an admin for ireland but can add global events
[14:47:46] * czajkowski is going to bed not in the mood for potshots at the LD or ubuntu tbh
[14:47:49] <czajkowski> g'night
[14:47:58] <slashtom> goodnight
[14:48:02] <kobrien> nn
[14:48:06] <ebel> czajkowski: night
[14:48:56] <ebel> czajkowski: erm, you're the next topic....
[14:49:07] <czajkowski> ok
[14:49:18] <slashtom> have we finished with the geeknic?
[14:49:29] <kobrien> seems so
[14:49:38] <ebel> [topic] Where to get started helping out in Ubuntu
[14:49:45] <ebel> suggested by czajkowski
[14:49:58] <czajkowski> ok I got asked the othe day where folks can get involved
[14:50:13] <czajkowski> there are a number of areas if you want to help
[14:50:16] * cduffin is intrigued
[14:50:33] <czajkowski> Translations - not just Irish, but also English fro USA to GB english
[14:50:45] <czajkowski> cduffin: ok what area would you like to help out in
[14:51:33] <cduffin> packaging and maintenance is intriguing
[14:51:54] <cduffin> but tbh, I'd be happy just to get involved
[14:51:59] <cduffin> foot in the door etc etc
[14:52:09] <ebel> packaging is easy
[14:52:18] <ebel> I was playing with some ubuntu packages today in work
[14:52:51] <kobrien> I'll be doing more debugging/packaging after thesis....any day now
[14:52:51] <czajkowski> cduffin: ok so we have the MOTU board ther and folks run packaging sessions
[14:53:13] * kobrien must try become a motu
[14:53:38] <cduffin> czajkowski: sounds good
[14:53:45] <czajkowski> kobrien: ok tomorrow during the day let me introcudce you to some folks
[14:54:00] <kobrien> czajkowski: excellent. =)
[14:54:14] <czajkowski> they have mentors and teach and show folks
[14:54:21] <czajkowski> and its a nice way to get involved
[14:54:28] <czajkowski> ot's not my area but I know about it
[14:54:36] <kobrien> I could probably do with a mentor
[14:54:37] <czajkowski> anyone else want to get inovled and doesn't know where?
[14:54:48] <czajkowski> also have folks heard about open week ??
[14:54:53] <czajkowski> !uow
[14:54:55] <ubot3> Ubuntu is hosting a series of introductory sessions for people who want to join the Ubuntu community, which all takes place in a week. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for schedules, logs, and instructions.
[14:54:55] <ebel> I know a little bit about pacakaging
[14:54:59] <ebel> only for my own purposes
[14:55:13] <ebel> so feel free to fire me any questions.
[14:55:22] <lau1> Ping me for packaging I am interested too
[14:55:25] <ebel> I'm not a MOTU or anything important like that :)
[14:56:16] <czajkowski> do folks know about #ubuntu-classroom
[14:56:22] <czajkowski> thre are often classes on in there
[14:56:29] <cduffin> I do now :p
[14:56:46] <czajkowski> you can always just ask for a session and perhaps someone would ruhn one if ther are 2-3 people there
[14:56:58] * kobrien notes this
[14:58:04] <czajkowski> Adopting a Package and being an upstream contact - Jorge Castro and Sense Hofstede
[14:58:08] <czajkowski> or
[14:58:28] <czajkowski>
[14:58:29] <czajkowski> Ubuntu Development II - Daniel Holbach
[14:58:35] <czajkowski> in uow
[14:58:38] <czajkowski> also
[14:58:42] <czajkowski> do folks know about UDS ??
[14:59:21] <cduffin> yes
[14:59:46] <kobrien> czajkowski: If I'm packaging a new package and need support?
[15:00:02] <czajkowski> did you know you can remotely partipcate
[15:00:06] <kobrien> for it to be distributed with Ubuntu
[15:00:24] <ebel> kobrien, cduffin: ye know about PPAs on launchpad?
[15:00:30] <kobrien> ebel: yes
[15:00:37] <cduffin> ebel: yes
[15:00:40] <ebel> It lets you put your own packages there, and people can install them.
[15:00:41] <czajkowski> and we want input from people not there
[15:01:44] <czajkowski> anyone else want to know about getting involved
[15:01:48] <kobrien> ebel: but I need my package in universe repo
[15:02:25] <ebel> czajkowski: that's some very helpful information :)
[15:03:28] <czajkowski> I'll do a blog post this week about remote particiption
[15:03:34] <czajkowski> but we really encourage people to log in
[15:03:36] <tdr112> 7866~70~o=8'~=]
[15:03:44] <czajkowski> there will be a lot of new channels set up for UDS
[15:03:48] <cduffin> czajkowksi: awesome
[15:03:49] <czajkowski> and the time table in advance
[15:03:53] <czajkowski> so you can join in
[15:04:00] <ebel> :)
[15:04:16] <czajkowski> if anyone wants to get involved in the community do poke me either on irc
[15:04:17] <czajkowski> or
[15:04:24] <czajkowski> <--------------@ubuntu.com
[15:04:39] <czajkowski> as when I come back from UDS I'll be poking folks to get their membership also
[15:04:40] <tdr112> i will
[15:04:44] <czajkowski> we got 5 new folks last year
[15:05:10] <czajkowski> anyting else?
[15:05:26] <ebel> don't think so...
[15:05:30] <czajkowski> ok
[15:05:31] <czajkowski> nn
[15:05:33] <airurando> czajkowski: Thanks for the info.
[15:05:38] <ebel> [topic] opensourceireland.org
[15:05:41] <czajkowski> 4 hrs sleeps is killing me
[15:05:42] <ebel> from kobrien...
[15:06:08] <kobrien> cduffin: ping
[15:06:16] <kobrien> I posted that on cduffins behalf
[15:06:18] <slashtom> czajkowski: go sleep
[15:06:20] <cduffin> sorry got distracted :-|
[15:06:44] <cduffin> what is everyones impression of the current progress of OSI?
[15:06:51] <cduffin> and how would you like to see it shape?
[15:07:25] <ebel> cduffin: can you give us a overview of it.....
[15:07:34] <slashtom> apologies i missed your talk at ossbarcamp, was nursing ebel
[15:07:38] <cduffin> ebel: sure
[15:07:50] <cduffin> the idea of the site is to resolve issues that were touched on earlier
[15:08:10] <cduffin> the Open Source community in Ireland is obviously strong and growing
[15:08:16] <slashtom> by adding another group and website?
[15:08:30] <cduffin> but it is fragmented and information is spread over too many different places
[15:08:34] <tdr112> what does your site add
[15:08:54] <cduffin> slashtom: the idea is to bring all the sites together, all central place for everything
[15:09:08] <cduffin> so groups can share info so that users don't have to go looking for it...
[15:09:30] <cduffin> why go searching multiple pages for events when one site has a calendar containing them all
[15:09:43] <slashtom> good idea
[15:09:51] <tdr112> there are other place that do event calendars
[15:09:58] <tdr112> places
[15:09:59] <cduffin> groups, and projects can also get better exposure
[15:10:08] <slashtom> there is openevents.ie iirc
[15:10:19] <cduffin> tdr112: no point in just a glorified calendar
[15:10:22] <cduffin> it needs more
[15:10:25] <slashtom> and there are our *two* web sources
[15:10:28] <ebel> cduffin: kudos on auto-pulling in events from a feed.
[15:10:32] <slashtom> and a third when the LD is ready
[15:10:43] <cduffin> slashtom: sorry LD?
[15:10:55] <slashtom> loco directory, see earlier talk
[15:11:00] <cduffin> ah, ok
[15:11:05] <ebel> cduffin: it's that sort of cleverness that could make it take off. make it so people don't have to think to be a part of it
[15:11:06] <kobrien> openevents.ie doesn't see to be particularly active and appears to lack the ability to adapt to the community.
[15:11:22] <slashtom> cduffin: it's a great idea, and having so many sources of information does annoy me
[15:11:30] <cduffin> OSI, is the communities website... users can add content as they see fit
[15:12:01] <cduffin> but obviously there is no point in me working on a site that "I" find useful...
[15:12:15] <cduffin> Hence the question, how would you like the site to shape up?
[15:12:35] <slashtom> if you can pull in feeds from elsewhere, and also maybe output your own twitter feed
[15:12:48] <kobrien> we do
[15:12:57] <slashtom> what's the twitter account
[15:12:59] <kobrien> http://twitter.com/osireland
[15:13:18] <cduffin> Well twitter yes, I'm looking at how best to display aggregated content though
[15:13:24] <cduffin> on the site
[15:13:31] * slashtom follows
[15:13:41] <airurando> blog aggregator?
[15:13:58] <ebel> yeah, a planet
[15:14:20] <slashtom> cduffin: are you coming to the next ubuntu hour?
[15:14:29] <kobrien> planet would be worth a looky
[15:14:35] <airurando> list of mailing lists?
[15:14:38] <cduffin> slashtom, I will
[15:14:43] * slashtom sees ideas forming over beer :)
[15:14:44] <cduffin> airuando: noted
[15:14:51] <ebel> beer is good for ideas
[15:14:52] * cduffin sees beer!!!
[15:15:09] <lau1> just one for me
[15:15:14] <lau1> ;)
[15:15:48] <airurando> The more content that can be pulled from the various sources the better.
[15:15:57] <cduffin> OK, well the site is there (albeit incomplete) if you have suggestions, feedback or criticism please feel free to add it to the site
[15:16:02] <cduffin> airuando: yes
[15:16:04] <tdr112> the less the groups have to do the better
[15:16:08] <slashtom> i see a quality vs quantity issue
[15:16:22] <kobrien> indeed. we've sent mail to several lists looking for support from various groups
[15:16:27] <airurando> people might be hesitant to have another web presence where content has to be added manually
[15:16:34] <kobrien> true
[15:16:35] <cduffin> slashtom: we can look at filters
[15:17:14] <cduffin> airuando: the *hope* is that you just have to set it up once for your group and the rest is automatic
[15:17:29] <cduffin> ie you register a post feed and an events feed
[15:17:33] <ebel> cduffin: a good goal :)
[15:17:33] <cduffin> and done
[15:17:41] <airurando> cduffin: now that sounds excellent.
[15:18:10] <kobrien> :)
[15:18:12] * cduffin 's head is overflowing
[15:18:30] <cduffin> cheers for the input guys
[15:18:32] <ebel> cduffin: cool
[15:18:45] <ebel> We'll have a chat at the ubuntu hour. :)
[15:18:57] <ebel> anything else on this topic?
[15:18:57] <cduffin> ebel: look forward to it
[15:19:09] <ebel> I think i need to schedule that ubuntu hour :)
[15:19:18] <cduffin> think topic is finished
[15:19:25] <airurando> ebel: its done
[15:19:29] <cduffin> only kobrien thinks different
[15:19:31] <kobrien> agreed
[15:19:33] <ebel> [topic] any other business?
[15:19:34] <kobrien> finished
[15:19:36] <tdr112> yep
[15:19:41] <cduffin> cools
[15:20:05] <tdr112> czajkowski is going for EMEA nominations if you would like to leave a testimonial on her wiki page feel free https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski
[15:20:24] <tdr112> anyone can leave one
[15:20:38] <kobrien> hmm, will do
[15:20:41] <airurando> definately on my to do list
[15:21:04] <ebel> tdr112: she kept that quiet
[15:21:09] <ebel> I'll add something in.
[15:21:44] <tdr112> she has help out this loco a lot it would be nice for people to write a little some thing
[15:21:49] <tdr112> helped
[15:22:00] <lau1> will do
[15:22:18] <ebel> Yeah, will do
[15:22:25] <tdr112> thats all i have
[15:22:30] <ebel> tdr112: thanks for the heads up
[15:22:33] <kobrien> so far as opensourceireland is concerned, people are adding their personal profiles to the site. these are generally a few words about yourself. It'd be nice to have a directory of all opensource people in ireland
[15:22:53] <kobrien> comments?
[15:23:42] <ebel> kobrien: How about people being able to pull it from LinkedIn, or facebook, or launchpad or something?
[15:24:09] <kobrien> ebel: good suggestion. this is a duplication of data they've inputted elsewhere
[15:24:22] <cduffin> ebel: :-O jesus I'll be a drupal genius by the time I'm done with this :p
[15:24:38] <kobrien> cduffin: tis your reward :)
[15:25:22] <ebel> aaaanyways
[15:25:27] * ebel wraps the meeting up
[15:25:31] <kobrien> cool
[15:25:32] <ebel> [topic] anything else?
[15:25:39] <cduffin> nopes
[15:25:44] <ebel> #endmeeting
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