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All about the Install Fest, What still needs to be done and who is going to do it?
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20:01 < etank> You all ready to start?
20:02 < venomous> git 'er dun...
20:02 < montgoej> I'm ready to go if you guys are
20:02 < bkingx> Boogity Boogityt Boogity!!
20:03 < montgoej> sorry guys, I gotta go, but I'
20:03 < montgoej> *I'll read the logs
20:03 < montgoej!n=montgoej@adsl-074-171-214-246.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net ["Ex-Chat"]
20:03 < etank> OK. as i see it the only topic for the night is the Install Fest
20:03 < etank> I have listed a few things that we need to make sure get done before the event
20:04 < etank> 1) Hang flyers around town (whereever your town is)
20:04 < etank> i got a bunch from Zuph so if there are any of you in the Lexington area that want to help blanket this area get with me
20:04 < etank> the flyers are also located on the wiki
20:05 < etank> let me take a step back real quick
20:05 < etank> who will be able to help with the Install Fest?
20:05 < venomous> april 21 is a go for me
20:06 < bkingx> I'm good
20:06 < etank> I am pretty sure that srwalter and tom will be there too. (since it is on UK campus)
20:07 < bkingx> Zuph?
20:07 < Zuph> Yeah?
20:07 < bkingx> You gonna be there?
20:07 < Zuph> the install fest?
20:07 < bkingx> yep
20:07 < Zuph> Yes.
20:07 < bkingx> Cool
20:08 < etank> so that would make about 6 of us
20:08 < etank> 7 if ScatterBrain is there too
20:08 < X626> I should be there, too. (Unless something happens that prevents me from going)
20:08 < etank> OK. We only have 9 days to get the flyers hung
20:08 < etank> 2) Setup
20:09 < etank> I am going to try to see if I can get with srwalter and see if we can go the night before to do some setup
20:09 < etank> would anyone like to help with that if it is a go?
20:10 >>> biohypnotix!n=biohypno@75.90.166.112
20:10 Zuph raises his hand.
20:10 < bkingx> I can help
20:10 < etank> 3) Welcome Packets
20:11 < etank> bkingx: has started on those
20:11 < etank> i just got the "Powered by Ubuntu" stickers today
20:11 < bkingx> COOL!!
20:11 < etank> bkingx: what needs to be finalized for the packets to be done?
20:12 < bkingx> We need some How-To's written
20:12 < bkingx> Specifically, pnes for connecting to the IRC Server and the Forums.
20:12 < bkingx> *ones
20:13 < etank> the forums are easy
20:13 < etank> just give them a URL
20:13 < etank> the other can be copied from the wiki
20:13 < etank> anything else?
20:13 < bkingx> We need the Screencasts burned, if we still want to include those.
20:13 < etank> I can do that tomorrow
20:14 < bkingx> OK...if you make an ISO, I can burn some too.
20:14 < etank> will do
20:14 < etank> is that all for the welcome packet?
20:14 < bkingx> And then a Welcome letter
20:15 < etank> what kind of welcime letter?
20:15 < bkingx> Soemthing that says, Hello, here we are, here some info, etc.
20:15 < bkingx> Basically an intro to the Team, what we do etc.
20:16 < etank> venomous: would you be willing to write something?
20:16 < bkingx> Cover letter of sorts.
20:16 < bkingx> venomous would be good at that!
20:16 < etank> you are really good at that kind of stuff (you know, grammer)
20:17 < bkingx> And I ain't??
20:17 < bkingx> I'm good at IM! LMAO!
20:17 < |{evin> grammar
20:17 < venomous> i could probably put something together. just checking work email though...it seems tomorrow will be awfully busy...may have to be this weekend.
20:17 < etank> see what i mean, I suck a speling too
20:17 < venomous> that crunches us for time.
20:18 < etank> we just need something that we can print sometime before next Saturday
20:18 < venomous> i can grind something out this weekend then.
20:19 < bkingx> That will work.
20:19 < bkingx> One-pager should suffice.
20:19 < venomous> see....some of us actually have to WORK when we're at work!!! we don't all have the luxury of jobs like etank and bkingx!!
20:19 etank is working on that though
20:19 < bkingx> Pshaw! I had to actually MOVE today
20:20 < venomous> etank: with any luck...you'll be in the same boat as me
20:20 < bkingx> Man....I would like to be in that boat too!
20:20 < etank> 4) Presentations
20:20 < venomous> bkingx: you mean "move" as in move your physical person???
20:21 < bkingx> LOL....yep!
20:21 < venomous> i'm working on it. company is a good one, but keep you busy.
20:21 < etank> is there anyone that is wanting to do a presentation?
20:21 < etank> srwalter is going to do the beryl thing
20:21 < venomous> clients do NOT want to pay big $$ for someone to just lay around..
20:22 < venomous> no OJT stuff. you better know it before you get there.
20:22 < bkingx> LOL...I hear ya!
20:22 < etank> i am going to do one on what Ubuntu is and why it is useful
20:22 < Zuph> <-- Basic LAMP server install for home use.
20:22 < etank> good
20:23 < etank> jordon was asking about that on the forum
20:23 < venomous> Zuph: I think that's a good idea, but what basic user (joe newbie) is going to have a need for a LAMP install?
20:23 < etank> the install fest is not only for new users
20:23 < etank> its is open for someone that just wants some help with a current install too
20:23 < venomous> the "joe users" i've run across want internet and email....that's it....other than that...they're clueless
20:24 < Zuph!n=BradLuys@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
20:24 >>> Zuph!n=BradLuys@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com
20:24 < Zuph> Good question. To do basic web development stuff.
20:24 < Zuph> We aren't teaching users that are new to computers.
20:24 < Zuph> We're teaching users that are new to LINUX.
20:25 < Zuph> They probably have an inkling of a clue.
20:25 < venomous> but aren't most "newbies" just that??? they want an alternative to having to pay bill gates for yet another license...
20:25 >>> comfurtn!n=kyle@mrtc-mm-600074.mis.net
20:26 < bkingx> I think we can expect all levels of users at this Feat.
20:26 < bkingx> *Fest
20:26 < Zuph> Just because they're new to linux doesn't mean they're ignorant of computers and servers in general.
20:26 etank is just hoping that we have users there period
20:26 < Zuph> I worked in IT for 3 years without knowing anything beyond "ls"
20:26 < venomous> the chick i gave an ubuntu cd to at school was interested, but had no idea what a partition was...much less that you could install both xp and linux to the same computer, which most will want to do as they learn to wean themselves from windows
20:26 bkingx is too
20:27 < Zuph> venomous: We'll get those users, but a basic lamp install isn't going to be too stressful, difficult or time consuming for most people.
20:27 < Zuph> I bet I can do it in 20 minutes.
20:27 < etank> i agree with bkingx. we should be prepared for all types of users.
20:27 < bkingx> How about a Virtualbox demo?
20:27 < bkingx> So peeps won't have to dual boot
20:28 < venomous> i agree, but am fearful of "scaring" people away. they want the "...it just works..." things that has made windows easy
20:28 < venomous> doesn't matter that it really doesn't "just work"
20:28 < etank> i say we keep virtualization out of the equation unless someone there brings it up
20:28 < bkingx> Cool
20:28 < venomous> agree with etank
20:28 < Zuph> venomous: We can't cater to those users. They'll never convert.
20:29 < Zuph> The user that wants it to "just work" will get frustrated the minute something doesn't work exactly like windows.
20:29 < venomous> the times i've brought up virtualization have brought "glazed" stares...
20:29 < etank> Zuph has a good point there
20:29 < venomous> true
20:30 < etank> one thing to keep in mind is that we do not want to speak ill of any other OS / Distro
20:30 < bkingx> Well, we can hold the demo and if people don't want to listen, they can watch the install bars go across the screen.
20:30 < venomous> too late...i already profess my disdain of MS every chance i get..
20:30 < etank> we don't what to be zealots
20:30 < bkingx> Make the presentations optional
20:30 < etank> not at the Install Fest though
20:31 < TheLighty!i=lighty@riding.the.data-stream.org [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)]
20:31 < bkingx> agreed....we need to agree that there is a place for ALL OS's.
20:31 < Zuph!n=BradLuys@74-138-203-144.dhcp.insightbb.com [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
20:32 < etank> ok. that is all i could think of
20:32 < etank> what am i missing
20:33 < etank> what can we do to make the event run as smoothly as possible
20:33 < venomous> i think we're all smart enough to less common sense prevail at the fest....
20:33 < bkingx> Do we have everything lined up as far as power, Internet, tables, chairs, etc?
20:33 < etank> I just though of one
20:33 < etank> we were going to build an apt mirror to make the installs faster
20:34 < etank> i think that Zuph was going to do that
20:34 < venomous> etank: do you still need one of my machines?
20:34 < venomous> never mind...lag
20:34 < venomous> is Zuph still up for that??
20:34 < bkingx> OK...we need to make sure that is working before we just show up.
20:34 < etank> tables, chairs etc i think will be there at the location
20:35 < etank> we need a switch i think though for internet access
20:35 < etank> powere should be good to go too
20:35 < bkingx> I can get a nice 24-porter
20:35 < venomous> covered....if need be
20:35 < etank> need be
20:35 < venomous> take your choice....cisco or nortel
20:36 < bkingx> 3com
20:36 < etank> i don't have a preference
20:36 < venomous> the nortel has POE....not that we'll need it
20:36 < etank> whatever works
20:36 < bkingx> Network cables?
20:37 < venomous> good though bkingx
20:37 < etank> blank CDs
20:37 < bkingx> I bought some yesterday.
20:37 < venomous> i can supply wireless equip if we want to deal with that....else, i've got some cables...a few 50', but can access some 25
20:38 < bkingx> 25ers should be fine.
20:38 < bkingx> and at least one wireless AP might be good too.
20:38 < venomous> done
20:38 < etank> it would be good to be able to show someone how to connect to wireless
20:39 < etank> we only have 3 hours there though since the Release Party is at 4
20:39 < venomous> etank, you thinking open, or encrypted??
20:39 < etank> both
20:39 < venomous> ...can do both
20:39 < etank> start open and then encrypt to show that side too
20:39 < venomous> bear in mind....some wireless users will need an install of ndiswrapper for wireless to work though
20:40 < etank> true
20:40 < bkingx> What is our Internet source?
20:40 < etank> but it is better to do that while we are there with them instead of them getting it home and getting mad
20:40 < etank> bkingx: I have no idea
20:40 < etank> UK Campus Internet
20:40 < etank> whatever that is
20:41 < bkingx> We need to have that determined asap as well.
20:41 < venomous> is srwalters?? taking care of the internet
20:41 < etank> why
20:42 < etank> it will be the schools network
20:42 < bkingx> We just need to make sure there are no problems accessing the Internet from our network.
20:43 < etank> does anyone else have any thoughts
20:43 < bkingx> Proxies, etc
20:43 < venomous> etank: what i think bkingx is referring to is will there be a hot port we can get out of?? SIS experience with UK is that they seem to be a little "protective"
20:43 < bkingx> Thanks venomous, that is exactly it.
20:43 < etank> venomous: according to tom and srwalter there will be
20:44 < bkingx> OK, cool.
20:44 < bkingx> So venomous, you have the network stuff handled then? Switch, Wireless AP, cables, etc?
20:44 < venomous> good idea to doube check....without internet, we're sunk...doensn't matter how many "bery" machines we're running...
20:44 < bkingx> good point, venomous
20:45 < etank> I will email tom and make sure it is a go
20:45 < bkingx> Thanks etank !
20:45 < etank> this is the room that the UKLUG uses i think
20:45 < bkingx> That will make me feel a bit better.
20:45 < venomous> venomous: provide 24 port switch and 2 wireless AP. one encypted...one not
20:45 < bkingx> and 25' cables?
20:46 < etank> i think that there is a projector in the room but i will check on that as well
20:46 < venomous> will get a count tomorrow, but....off the top of my head?? maybe...5 and a few 50'
20:46 < bkingx> OK....I'll see what I can round up as well.
20:47 < bkingx> Tables and chairs we are pretty sure are in the room?
20:47 < venomous> my 14' are all used up at the moment doing actual work stuff
20:48 < bkingx> Have we decided on refreshments?
20:48 < etank> srwalter said that he could take care of getting them
20:48 < bkingx> Cool
20:48 < etank> we have the "Donate" button on the UK site but it has been down for two days
20:48 < etank> I would still like to get some kind of door prizes
20:49 < bkingx> last thoughts are 'office supplies'
20:49 < bkingx> I have an iMac we can give away. Load it with Ubuntu PPC version.
20:49 < etank> pens to fill out forms, tape to stick them to the sides of PCs
20:49 < bkingx> Or maybe a raffle for something that big to help ofset the costs?
20:49 < bkingx> RIGHT, etank
20:50 < bkingx> I bought some sharpies (5), name badges, blank labels
20:50 < bkingx> Pens and tape would be good.
20:50 < venomous> if i can get to the office...i can get a supply of pens
20:51 < bkingx> Can we get pens with Ubuntu-Kentucky on it? :)
20:51 < etank> not in enough time
20:51 < venomous> bkingx: hah!! what schedule are you working under??
20:51 < bkingx> Yeah, I know
20:52 < bkingx> notepads for people to take notes?
20:52 < etank> all of this stuff is going to take money though
20:53 < venomous> none of which we have!!
20:54 < bkingx> I've already put in $90 for folders CD's. labels, etc.
20:54 < bkingx> Surely we can pool together to get some stuff.
20:54 < venomous> bkingx == bill gates
20:54 < kyboy!n=kyboy@74-131-216-19.dhcp.insightbb.com ["Leaving"]
20:55 < venomous> we may be overthinking this....there are going to issues we don't/didn't anticipate. it's going to be a learning curve
20:55 < bkingx> Yup...I like etank's comment about common sense.
20:56 < venomous> if we beat ourselves up picking over the minutia....we'll drive ourselves crazy
20:57 < etank> is there anything else we need to discuss?
20:58 < venomous> i'm thinking we're ok...for tonight, anyway - that may be the medication talking though..
20:58 < bkingx> Not that I can think of.
20:58 < etank> i am planning on putting up flyers this weekend if anyone wants to elp
20:59 < etank> meeting is done then