IRCLog-20080221
22:30:13 [ wharp] Meeting agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LouisianaTeam/Meetings 22:30:18 [ wharp] Let's jump right in. 22:30:26 [ wharp] First up is details on the face to face. 22:30:52 [ Palintheus] OK, I think its pretty much a given that at least one of them will be after/at the HAM fest 22:30:56 [ r2d2rogers] This has changed a bit with the Hamfest event 22:31:00 [ r2d2rogers] ::nods:: 22:31:32 [ wharp] But we had been planning to do multiples anyway 22:31:35 [ r2d2rogers] I am planning to contact local resturants to see if I can arrange some percentage of the tickets from groups mentioning the loco at the hamfest be donated to us 22:32:05 [ wharp] We're not setup for that. That would be something else we'd need to do. 22:32:29 [ r2d2rogers] failing that I mentioned it to the Event Coodinator for the Hamfest and will be pursuing it face to face (at the latest) at the next Ham Club meeting in monroe 22:32:41 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: right 22:33:00 [ wharp] Is collecting money something we want to be responsible for at this point? 22:33:06 [ r2d2rogers] I think we need to investigate funding issues as part of the hamfest, but I'm jumping ahead 22:33:18 [ wharp] yeah 22:33:33 [ Palintheus] wharp: I think its gonna be needed at some point, its hard to be self sustaining on internal donations 22:33:46 [ Palintheus] and why not start now rather than later, imho 22:33:54 [ wharp] I understand that completely, but I don't want to open us up to liabilities we're not prepared for. 22:34:05 [ Palintheus] liabilities as in....? 22:34:12 [ r2d2rogers] Anyone familiar with Louisiana regulations on non profits? 22:34:14 [ ChrisULM] yall talking about a donation jar type thing on the booth or what? 22:34:14 [ wharp] I don't know 22:34:23 [ wharp] That would be one thing 22:34:25 [ r2d2rogers] ChrisULM: in general yes 22:34:28 [ Palintheus] ChrisULM: basically 22:34:35 [ r2d2rogers] but the legal side also 22:35:08 [ ChrisULM] i'd doubt there'd by much legalities on that 22:35:34 [ wharp] But who manages the money? Who keeps it until its used or decides how its spent? 22:35:35 [ Palintheus] there really doesn't have to be, unless people want receipts for taxes etc, but does that happen often? 22:35:37 [ r2d2rogers] there was much debate about it. 22:35:56 [ Palintheus] not so much legality, but need/hassle of it 22:36:01 [ Palintheus] re dabate ^ 22:36:04 [ r2d2rogers] wharp good questions 22:36:04 [ Palintheus] iirc 22:36:05 [ Blain] http://www.lano.org/explore.cfm Louisiana Assoc, of Non Profits, would probably be the best source of info. 22:36:12 [ Palintheus] thanks Blain 22:36:19 [ Blain] i.e IRS federal and state filings 22:36:21 [ r2d2rogers] good link 22:36:49 [ Blain] Yeah, check out the publications section. 22:36:51 [ wharp] But that would require us to be set up as a non-profit correct? 22:36:56 [ r2d2rogers] anyone have interest to investigate this and bring back info for discussion on the mailing list ornext meeting? 22:36:57 [ Blain] Yeah 22:37:13 [ r2d2rogers] or the forum? 22:37:16 [ Palintheus] right 22:37:23 [ Blain] But thier or benifits to being a non-profit. 22:37:32 [ wharp] I think either way it should be posted to the forum. 22:37:37 [ r2d2rogers] Blain: +1 22:37:41 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: +1 22:37:44 [ Palintheus] wharp: +1 22:37:48 [ Robdgreat] anybody have any idea what's involved in becoming a non-profit? 22:37:49 [ r2d2rogers] forum seems most visible for other's use 22:37:59 [ Blain] IRS filling's for one thing. 22:38:10 [ Palintheus] keeping good records 22:38:14 [ Blain] Alot of paper work to make the gov believe you are a non-profit. 22:38:19 [ r2d2rogers] hmmm 22:38:19 [ wharp] [Action Item] Forum post and research into non-profit status and collection/handling of money 22:38:27 [ r2d2rogers] wharp +1 22:38:40 [ r2d2rogers] any volunteers? 22:38:54 [ wharp] Ok, is there anything we need to say about the face to face meetings? It looks like r2d2rogers will be handling the one following the HAM fest. 22:39:03 [ wharp] What about the one in N.O.? 22:39:07 [ Blain] Best source of information for this would most likely be an accountant - book keeper, if anyone knows one 22:39:27 [ wharp] I've got a friend who is a lawyer I can check with. 22:39:37 [ Palintheus] r2d2rogers: I can look some, but I can't guarantee a lot getting done :/ 22:39:38 [ Robdgreat] I'm going to be talking to my accountant soon 22:39:41 [ wharp] She might know someone 22:39:42 [ r2d2rogers] (by the way... +1 is a convention used in IRC meetings for expressing agreement or casting your vote in favor of somthing) 22:40:04 [ r2d2rogers] wife's friend is professor of accounting at ULm 22:40:35 [ r2d2rogers] :todo add talk to AH about Non-profit status for a club or organization 22:40:38 [+ATDT] r2d2rogers: The operation succeeded. (Todo #26 added) 22:40:47 [ r2d2rogers] and i was weeding them down too 22:41:17 [ Palintheus] numbering doesn't restart ;) 22:41:18 [ wharp] Ok, so back to the face to face details 22:41:33 [ Palintheus] right...back on the agenda 22:41:53 [ Palintheus] ok, so any location/date ideas for an NO f2f? 22:42:04 [ Palintheus] or do we need to talk more about Monroe? 22:42:20 [ r2d2rogers] say monroe and the 26th of April 22:42:29 [ r2d2rogers] and I'll bring more details to the next meeting 22:42:32 [ Blain] I doubt i'd be able to make it to monroe, nice long drive for me. 22:42:39 [ wharp] I think r2d2rogers is going to need to do some leg work unless ChrisULM has any contacts he could use? 22:42:52 [ r2d2rogers] Blain: you closer to a N.O. meetup? 22:42:59 [ Blain] Yeah, Hammodn 22:43:01 [ Blain] Hammond 22:43:09 [ ChrisULM] wharp, none come to mind other than some that may can help with booth stuff at the ham 22:43:10 [ Robdgreat] HAMmond ;) 22:43:10 [ wharp] That's one of the reasons for multiple meetings, but if some people will be helping out with the HAM fest they'll already be in Monroe 22:43:23 [ r2d2rogers] hfwilke: you mentioned you won't be able to make the hamfest? 22:43:27 [ r2d2rogers] lol 22:43:29 [ r2d2rogers] @ Robdgreat 22:43:56 [ Blain] I would be willing to carpool though lol 22:44:14 [ Palintheus] :) 22:44:29 [ r2d2rogers] Robdgreat? carpool? 22:45:10 [ Palintheus] can we get a general count on who *is* making the HAMfest? 22:45:12 * Palintheus 22:45:23 [ wharp] let's hold off until we're on that agenda item 22:45:38 [ wharp] we're still discussing the face to face 22:45:41 [ Palintheus] s/HAMfest/F2F 22:45:59 [ r2d2rogers] o/ 22:46:27 [ wharp] Is someone willing to coordinate a f2f in N.O.? 22:46:34 [ boomer] so there will be a F2F in monroe on Apr 26? 22:46:39 [ wharp] Yes 22:46:40 [ r2d2rogers] boomer: yes 22:46:53 [ ChrisULM] after or at the ham? 22:46:56 [ r2d2rogers] release party after the ham 22:47:05 [ r2d2rogers] of some sort ;0 22:47:28 [ Blain] byob ;) 22:47:32 [ r2d2rogers] planning as evening meal 22:47:33 [ r2d2rogers] yeah 22:47:46 [ r2d2rogers] unless it's at a place with mixed 22:48:23 [ r2d2rogers] a bar 22:48:24 [ r2d2rogers] sorry 22:48:52 [ r2d2rogers] so, monroe date and general time set, detail to follow at next meeting 22:48:57 [ r2d2rogers] N.O. unknown... 22:49:02 [ r2d2rogers] Next item? 22:49:10 [ wharp] macd? you around? 22:49:44 [ wharp] well we'll come back to his items if he shows 22:50:03 [ wharp] but on the 28th, next Thursday we're going to have a "class" on doing a bug day 22:50:04 [ Palintheus] k 22:50:27 [ wharp] We'd like to have LoCo bug days in the future and this will be a good way to get started 22:50:38 [ r2d2rogers] agreed 22:50:49 [ Palintheus] I think monthly would be a good start, or every 2 weeks? 22:50:53 [ hfwilke] r2d2rogers, yeah...monroe is a bit too much of a trip for me...so Hamfest is out 22:51:09 [ r2d2rogers] hate to back up... but 22:51:26 [ wharp] Palintheus: we need to get a rhythm down. We don't want to overwhelm ourselves 22:51:26 /bin/sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string 22:51:27 [ r2d2rogers] hfwilke: any interest in arranging a meetup for Release Party in N.O.? 22:51:38 [ r2d2rogers] Palintheus: monthly +1 22:51:41 [ Palintheus] wharp: ok, so monthly or... 22:51:47 [ hfwilke] sure...I can work on something 22:51:53 [ r2d2rogers] \o/ 22:51:55 [ wharp] Palintheus: I think we just need to wait and see how they work out 22:52:05 [ wharp] we don't need to put anything in writing at this point 22:52:16 [ Palintheus] ok 22:52:21 [ r2d2rogers] yeah, macd volunteered, let him drive a bit? 22:52:44 [ wharp] At least until we get the hang of it. 22:52:54 [ wharp] so next item? 22:52:56 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: Newsletter? 22:52:57 [ r2d2rogers] yup 22:53:11 [ wharp] Ok. I thought it would be a good idea if we had our own newsletter. 22:53:15 [ wharp] Something simple. 22:53:28 [ wharp] Just a short summary of what we're doing, what needs to be done, etc. 22:53:35 [ wharp] Sent out to the mailing list. 22:53:51 [ wharp] to help keep people informed of what's going on 22:54:20 [ wharp] I don't mind doing it, but I'll need help collecting things for it 22:54:51 [ r2d2rogers] I like the idea 22:54:59 [ r2d2rogers] I'll help collect info for it 22:55:28 [ wharp] just shoot me an email if you think of something that should be added 22:55:51 [ wharp] I don't plan to do it weekly, probably every other week or so if we have enough going on. 22:56:10 [ r2d2rogers] anyone else, comments? 22:56:15 [ wharp] I don't want to overwhelm people with info, but at the same time I want to make sure people can find out what's going on at a glance. 22:56:16 [ r2d2rogers] like it, hate it? 22:56:23 [ Palintheus] is this something that should be mirrored to the forum or wiki or both 22:56:35 [ boomer] newsletter sounds good 22:56:52 [ wharp] Palintheus: I don't know, most of it will be somewhat time sensitive I think 22:56:55 [ Blain] wharp: +1 22:57:04 [ Palintheus] ok. 22:57:05 [ gsibbery] wharp: +1 22:57:06 [ r2d2rogers] should the ML just be a link to one of the other two? 22:57:23 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: +1 22:57:28 [ Blain] Should probably be in pdf form to make it easy. 22:57:29 [ r2d2rogers] yeah ML best for this one 22:57:34 [ ChrisULM] wharp: +1, newsletter sounds good to me 22:57:46 [ wharp] This is something a community team could handle in the future... 22:58:03 [ wharp] Ok, so for now just shoot me an email if you've got something that should be added. 22:58:14 [ r2d2rogers] :todo add create community team page in wiki 22:58:16 [+ATDT] r2d2rogers: The operation succeeded. (Todo #27 added) 22:58:17 [ wharp] Next item is an update on the mailing list. 22:58:22 [ r2d2rogers] YAY 22:58:22 [ wharp] r2d2rogers 22:58:32 [ Robdgreat] email newsletter in pdf? 22:58:48 [ wharp] huh, apparently I forgot to add one for the community team 22:58:49 [ r2d2rogers] I am pleased to report that stalking is an effective way to cause actions 22:59:01 [ wharp] Personally, I abhor PDF 22:59:02 [ r2d2rogers] I have admin access to the team Mailing list 22:59:12 [ Robdgreat] yeah I'd prefer plain text 22:59:16 [ gsibbery] i hate pdfs too 22:59:17 [ Robdgreat] if nothing else 22:59:24 [ r2d2rogers] I would like at least two additional volunteers to act as moderators 22:59:25 [ wharp] This is something that's been hanging over our head for a while so this is great news. 22:59:31 [ r2d2rogers] and at least one backup full admin 23:00:00 [ r2d2rogers] I didn't get a chance to fully audit the current subscriber list 23:00:11 [ boomer] r2d2rogers: i can help with moderation 23:00:15 [ r2d2rogers] but there was a pending moderation request from november 23:00:22 [ r2d2rogers] thanks boom 23:00:24 [ r2d2rogers] that's one 23:00:33 [ r2d2rogers] need another mod and an admin 23:00:36 [ Palintheus] +1 on boomer as moderator/admin 23:00:51 [ wharp] I'll do either of the two 23:01:03 [ boomer] same here 23:01:08 [ Blain] Well guys i gtg, didn't get much sleep last night because i was on call, and have to be up at 5ish 23:01:09 [ wharp] +1 on boomer 23:01:18 [ wharp] take care Blain 23:01:19 [ r2d2rogers] thanks blain 23:01:25 [ r2d2rogers] see you next time <G> 23:01:27 [ Blain] later 23:01:30 ::: Blain [n=demonbob@24-158-220-75.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has quit ["Memories Never Fade"] 23:01:35 [ r2d2rogers] one more volunteer? 23:01:40 [ Robdgreat] I can help mod 23:01:55 [ Palintheus] ++ to Robdgreat 23:02:08 [ wharp] +1 Robdgreat 23:02:39 [ r2d2rogers] great 23:02:53 [ r2d2rogers] will ad you three after the meeting 23:02:59 [ wharp] Ok 23:03:08 [ wharp] Next item is the HAM fest 23:03:16 [ r2d2rogers] at this point I'm not worried too much so three admins unless anyone prefers just Mod? 23:03:34 [ r2d2rogers] k 23:03:37 [ r2d2rogers] Lots of info here 23:04:01 [ wharp] Do we have an idea of how many people we need to staff the booth? 23:04:10 [ Palintheus] many as possible 23:04:15 [ Palintheus] don't want to be understaffed 23:04:16 [ r2d2rogers] http://www.ares-nela.org/hamfest/ 23:04:23 [ Robdgreat] I'll be there 23:04:24 [ r2d2rogers] the tables are 8 foot by 2 foot 23:04:28 * Palintheus will be there 23:04:31 [ wharp] But we also don't want to be unable to talk because there are so many people 23:04:36 [ r2d2rogers] we have three in a square 23:04:44 [ r2d2rogers] if we get the placement I requested 23:04:53 [ wharp] I plan to be there also, unless something comes up 23:04:54 [ Robdgreat] but we're certainly not going to discourage attendance 23:05:00 [ r2d2rogers] right 23:05:03 [ Palintheus] Robdgreat: + 23:05:04 [ ChrisULM] what kind of booth are yall thinking about? are we just going to be handing out install cds or will there be computers running to demo ubuntu? 23:05:14 [ Robdgreat] demo machines 23:05:18 [ wharp] No, not discourage, but we could arrange shifts 23:05:18 [ Robdgreat] and cds 23:05:20 [ r2d2rogers] reserves and crowd circulation. or people just available for running 23:05:27 [ Palintheus] we will likely have demo machines provided from sys76 and members 23:05:30 [ wharp] r2d2rogers +1 23:05:40 [ r2d2rogers] looking at 4-6 laptops at the moment 23:05:44 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: when will you know if we get that spot? 23:05:53 [ boomer] i can loan a box for demo 23:05:54 [ Palintheus] still waiting to hear from Carl on the sys76 help, but it is very likely to happen 23:06:03 [ r2d2rogers] when the event coordinator hooks his pc back up at home 23:06:16 [ wharp] um....that doesn't sound so encouraging 23:06:20 [ r2d2rogers] Not really 23:06:36 [ r2d2rogers] but he's the brother-in-law of one of my department mates 23:06:40 [ r2d2rogers] so i have some push ;) 23:06:56 [ r2d2rogers] and he and others have expressed excitiment about our being there 23:07:02 [ wharp] I might be able to bring a laptop, but I'll have to see if I can scrounge a HD to install ubuntu on 23:07:12 [ r2d2rogers] good deal 23:07:16 [ Palintheus] and the fliers sys76 provided will help advertise the event itself :) 23:07:25 [ Palintheus] maybe that can convince them to give a discount 23:07:35 [ wharp] What's the booth price? 23:07:50 [ r2d2rogers] $10 per table plus $10 for electric 23:07:59 [ r2d2rogers] so $40 without any discount 23:08:13 [ Robdgreat] so we basically need to compile a cost list so we know what we're up against 23:08:13 [ r2d2rogers] no word on internet availability 23:08:14 [ wharp] that's not bad 23:08:27 [ Palintheus] 100 fliers postered around Monroe should be good for something imho 23:08:31 [ Palintheus] Robdgreat: +++ 23:08:38 [ r2d2rogers] but Palintheus and Robdgreat have offered some limited cell data plan access 23:08:42 [ wharp] Robdgreat: we've got a post on the forum to collect that sort of thing 23:08:42 [ r2d2rogers] yup 23:08:48 [ r2d2rogers] yup 23:09:01 [ Robdgreat] does it say how much we need to collect? 23:09:10 [ wharp] Not yet, but that's the plan. 23:09:16 [ Robdgreat] Ok. That's all I was saying 23:09:30 [ r2d2rogers] I have probable source of 400 burned inkjet printed CD's for something like 25-40 cents a disk 23:09:32 [ wharp] I've posted a list of the suggested booth box contents 23:09:42 [ ChrisULM] with the booth fee and cd (labels and all) are there any others fees? 23:09:54 [ wharp] but we need to decide on what things we need and what we don't 23:09:56 [ r2d2rogers] and duplication for Hardy heron Isos in the two day window 23:10:10 [ r2d2rogers] I have not sourced the paper sleeves for the CD's 23:10:28 [ r2d2rogers] ChrisULM: no others for the group 23:10:29 [ wharp] Are we still going to try doing a custom image or just go with the default? 23:10:41 [ Palintheus] due to time probably default 23:10:44 [ r2d2rogers] but individuals may need to pay a $5 fee to get in 23:10:59 [ r2d2rogers] depending on how many exhibitors they allot per booth 23:11:07 [ r2d2rogers] Palintheus: +1 23:11:09 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: taht's something we need to find out and let people know about 23:11:09 [ Robdgreat] I thought I read $10 for door prizes 23:11:41 [ r2d2rogers] but default HH was a big bump up vs gutsy so I'm happy there 23:11:47 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: you're right 23:11:49 [ r2d2rogers] will do 23:11:49 [ Palintheus] fro mthe site: 23:11:50 [ Palintheus] * 23:11:52 [ Palintheus] Admission is $5, which gives you a chance at the Grand Prizes. 23:11:52 [ Palintheus] * 23:11:52 [ Palintheus] Additional prize tickets will be available for purchase (1 for $1.00 or 6 for $5.00) 23:11:58 [ Palintheus] grr at bad paste 23:12:01 [ Robdgreat] ahh my mistake 23:12:04 [ Palintheus] np 23:12:09 [ r2d2rogers] :todo add find out about exhibitor admission/ doorprize fees 23:12:11 [+ATDT] r2d2rogers: The operation succeeded. (Todo #28 added) 23:12:41 [ r2d2rogers] macd also has a shipit order in for 50 gutsy discs 23:12:46 [ wharp] If anyone is going to loan or donate we need to make sure we have a way of getting their loan/donation and getting it back to them. 23:12:51 [ r2d2rogers] I found out today that the event was in the Fall before 23:13:01 [ r2d2rogers] and there may be a better turn out than in previous years 23:13:05 [ wharp] Yeah, they moved it up since its "regional" 23:13:15 [ wharp] Do we know expected turnout or past turnout? 23:13:22 [ Palintheus] 350+ 23:13:23 [ r2d2rogers] past is 300-350 23:13:27 [ Robdgreat] so to supplement the discs maybe some literature would be appropriate 23:13:31 [ r2d2rogers] so as Palintheus said 23:13:38 [ wharp] Robdgreat +1 23:13:39 [ Robdgreat] information about the os and how to download it 23:13:45 [ r2d2rogers] Robdgreat: or blanks on hand for burning in booth 23:13:51 [ r2d2rogers] show off the working systems 23:13:51 [ Robdgreat] that too 23:13:52 [ wharp] r2d2rogers +1 23:13:56 [ wharp] was just going to say the same thing 23:14:03 [ r2d2rogers] <G> 23:14:04 [ Palintheus] yeah the conference pack canonical is sending includes leaflets, but they are not described 23:14:12 [ r2d2rogers] right 23:14:15 [ wharp] We can have one laptop and either show a video of the install or actually do installs on it 23:14:26 [ Robdgreat] and maybe some sort of policy on distribution 23:14:27 [ r2d2rogers] Thinking if we manage 6 laptops 23:14:43 [ Palintheus] I think we are getting 2 from sys76 23:14:45 [ ChrisULM] I like the live install idea wharp 23:14:48 [ r2d2rogers] I'd like one playing a video and one avaiable to try out on each of the three tables 23:14:52 [ Palintheus] hopefully the new darter and a bigger one 23:14:57 [ Robdgreat] we want people to be able to take maybe for people who aren't there, but we can't have people taking ridiculous amounts 23:15:04 [ r2d2rogers] and one person per table... 23:15:09 [ Palintheus] Robdgreat: ++ 23:15:22 [ wharp] Yeah, we certainly don't want to be supplying coasters to all of ULM 23:15:27 [ Robdgreat] ugh 23:15:29 [ r2d2rogers] <G> 23:15:33 [ ChrisULM] hehe 23:16:09 [ r2d2rogers] Palintheus: did you also have mention of banner from sys76 ? 23:16:10 [ wharp] I want to make sure we keep in mind that this is primarily a HAM fest 23:16:17 [ r2d2rogers] True 23:16:35 [ wharp] We need to be prepared to offer information about what they can do with it in relation to HAM radio 23:16:35 [ Palintheus] yes, they mentioned talking to Canonical about getting us hooked up, and I hinted strongly about it in the email to Carl 23:16:41 [ r2d2rogers] I will be attending the meeting of the http://tchams.org on March 4th 23:17:06 [ wharp] I would really like it if we might be able to setup a HAM rig that connects to the computer, but that's a bit far fetched. 23:17:22 [ r2d2rogers] so that I can find out what experience the group has with linux and possibly get some volunteer help on the HAM side 23:17:45 [ r2d2rogers] I have heard of two gentlemen that are good possibilities 23:17:57 [ r2d2rogers] I'll be getting with mutedecho|work about contacting them 23:18:01 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: keep us posted on that 23:18:06 [ r2d2rogers] he's worked with them previously 23:18:19 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: wilco 23:18:46 [ r2d2rogers] I and I think Robdgreat have some ambition to attempt the ham licensing exam in the time between now and the hamfest 23:19:06 [ wharp] I knew you both wanted to, but I didn't realize that was the time frame 23:19:10 [ r2d2rogers] anyone else interested in getting a closer tie with another tech community group? 23:19:18 [ r2d2rogers] ;) 23:19:20 [ Robdgreat] o/ 23:19:29 [ r2d2rogers] we'll see if it pwns us or not <G> 23:19:32 [ wharp] haha 23:19:35 [ ChrisULM] lol 23:19:46 [ Robdgreat] I've been looking at the question pool all day 23:19:55 [ Robdgreat] I feel confident about being able to prepare in a month :) 23:20:02 [ Robdgreat] s/in/within/ 23:20:04 [ r2d2rogers] I also have some possible help from the monroe trio I talked to at books a Million 23:20:10 [ r2d2rogers] but that's not firm at this point 23:20:12 [ wharp] Everyone who is planning on helping out with the HAM fest, please add your name to the project page. 23:20:19 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: +1 23:20:35 [ ChrisULM] gonna have to get with ya rob on how to do that 23:20:39 [ ChrisULM] this is all new to me 23:20:50 [ wharp] And be sure to post all updates to the forum please. There is already a thread started. 23:21:16 [ wharp] Yeah, if anybody needs help with either the wiki or the forum, please ask someone. We'll be more than happy to help. 23:21:59 [ r2d2rogers] ChrisULM: glad to help 23:22:02 [ wharp] What time is the hamfest? 23:22:17 [ Robdgreat] 8 23:22:19 [ r2d2rogers] from 8am till midafternoon on Saturday the 26th of April 23:22:48 [ wharp] haha, it actually says midafernoon on the website too 23:22:55 [ r2d2rogers] Additional interest for the Ham => linux connection: 23:23:07 [ Palintheus] any idea on setup time on friday? as in when it will be open to setup/scope out 23:23:15 [ wharp] 1 to 7 23:23:30 [ Palintheus] k 23:23:33 [ r2d2rogers] the state HAM Clubs are looking at a linux VOIP repeater project and plan to put it in place in the coming year 23:23:42 [ r2d2rogers] what's that name Palintheus ? 23:23:42 /bin/sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string 23:23:44 [ wharp] Not exaclty relevant, but what is a license upgrade? 23:23:46 [ r2d2rogers] I lost my tabs.. 23:23:58 [ r2d2rogers] from tech to general to extra class 23:24:01 [ wharp] where'd you see that r2d2rogers ? 23:24:03 [ wharp] ic 23:24:06 [ Palintheus] IRLP 23:24:15 [ r2d2rogers] more privileges as you go up the scale 23:24:24 [ gsibbery] morse code test 23:24:24 [ r2d2rogers] talking to the EC 23:24:29 [ wharp] What would that repeater do? 23:24:38 [ wharp] EC? as in extra class? 23:24:38 [ Robdgreat] pretty sure morse code test is no longer required 23:24:45 [ gsibbery] for extra class it is 23:24:45 [ r2d2rogers] VOIP connection to another repeater through the internet 23:24:50 [ gsibbery] just 5wpm though 23:24:53 [ Robdgreat] yeah 23:25:11 [ wharp] ah, so kind of taking some of the radio out of it hten 23:25:11 [ r2d2rogers] to talk to Ham's accross the world without hogh cost equipment 23:25:17 [ wharp] gotcha 23:25:20 [ r2d2rogers] yup 23:25:27 [ wharp] Do they have a site in mind already? 23:25:28 [ r2d2rogers] EC => event coordinator 23:25:29 [ r2d2rogers] sorry 23:25:37 [ r2d2rogers] they have repeaters in place now 23:25:43 [ wharp] Well I figure if I'm confused I'm probably not the only one 23:25:44 [ wharp] Oh, ok 23:25:45 [ r2d2rogers] they will be adding this to those sites 23:26:26 [ r2d2rogers] think of cell towers that use another method to tie into the land line network... 23:26:32 [ r2d2rogers] similar but for radio 23:26:41 [ wharp] Ok, is there anything else we need to discuss or decide relating to the HAM fest booth? 23:26:53 [ r2d2rogers] so there is awareness and interest in "that linux stuff" 23:26:59 [ Robdgreat] yeah 23:27:02 [ r2d2rogers] not at this time I don't think 23:27:03 [ Palintheus] I think we need to plan a meeting exclusively for planning on the hamfest 23:27:03 [ r2d2rogers] ? 23:27:07 [ r2d2rogers] am I wrong? 23:27:11 [ r2d2rogers] Palintheus: + 23:27:14 [ wharp] Palintheus: +1 23:27:16 [ r2d2rogers] I think that's wise 23:27:31 [ Robdgreat] have a ham team :) 23:27:37 [ Robdgreat] hamfest team ? 23:27:49 [ Palintheus] ++ 23:27:52 [ r2d2rogers] this segment for future meetings should be a summary with a pointer to details on another venue (forum wiki etc.) 23:27:59 [ wharp] we need to stay on top of it so the meeting should be pretty soon 23:28:06 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: right 23:28:28 [ r2d2rogers] needs to be different from regular discussion night? 23:28:29 [ Palintheus] per our troll how about hamster team? 23:28:32 [ Palintheus] michaelramm: :D 23:28:33 [ r2d2rogers] 14 23:28:36 [ r2d2rogers] oops 23:28:40 [ Palintheus] ha! 23:28:59 [ michaelramm] Palintheus: I represent that remark! 23:29:03 [ r2d2rogers] I know what i did, what are you grinning at? 23:29:07 [ r2d2rogers] LOL 23:29:08 [ wharp] We need to have a set time for dicussing it so everyone interested can come 23:29:22 [ r2d2rogers] k 23:29:38 [ r2d2rogers] boomer: I think you 23:29:44 [ r2d2rogers] are the main late nighter.. 23:29:48 [ wharp] do we want to schedule that meeting now? 23:29:53 [ r2d2rogers] are you interested/able to help in the hafest? 23:30:11 * r2d2rogers is losing the typing ability late tonight 23:30:30 * Robdgreat bites tongue. 23:30:32 [ Robdgreat] ;) 23:30:35 [ r2d2rogers] heh 23:30:37 [ ChrisULM] im in 23:30:56 [ Palintheus] Im good with anytime before midnight usually :) 23:31:00 [ r2d2rogers] I will send an email to the ML after i check for who hasn't signed up 23:31:28 [ r2d2rogers] and ask for everyone interested to toss their hat in the ring 23:31:41 [ wharp] sounds good 23:31:57 [ wharp] Next item? 23:32:10 [ r2d2rogers] yup 23:32:30 [ wharp] ok 23:32:44 [ wharp] Everyone please take a look at the subteams linked on the main wiki page 23:32:55 [ wharp] If there's an area you think you can help out regularly, please sign up. 23:33:22 * Palintheus would love to donate more time, but Im currently pushing my limits 23:33:25 [ wharp] I think two of the pressing teams are the meeting team and new member team 23:33:41 [ wharp] If everybody does a little work then nobody has to be spread too thin 23:34:09 [ wharp] That's really all I've got to say, other than please please sign up 23:34:17 [ r2d2rogers] feel free to comment your sign up with how much you want to help and how 23:34:22 [ wharp] yes 23:34:32 [ wharp] and if there's a team you think we could use but don't see it, then add it 23:34:56 [ r2d2rogers] if there's no one on the team, then you have a chance to have a bigger impact on the way that team is formed and functions 23:35:22 [ Palintheus] all I ask (and Im not trying to be an ass with this comment) Please comment your edits on the wiki, and if you have a question on formatting feel free to ask advice on it 23:35:31 [ r2d2rogers] Palintheus: +1 23:35:33 [ wharp] Yes, please comment. 23:35:37 [ Palintheus] especially on the tables... 23:35:48 [ wharp] Oh, and if you do sign up for a team, you might want to subscribe to that page so you are notified of updates 23:36:31 [ wharp] Last item 23:36:38 [ r2d2rogers] and if you need help with any of that 23:36:39 [ r2d2rogers] ASK 23:36:47 [ Palintheus] we don't bite 23:36:49 [ Palintheus] usually 23:37:00 [ wharp] I was thinking of signing us up for a general email address we could put on promotional material. Flyers and such. 23:37:09 [ wharp] Thoughts? 23:37:16 [ r2d2rogers] The Mailing list doesn't accept email from someone nt subscribed 23:37:20 [ r2d2rogers] I'd like to leave it that way 23:37:24 [ Palintheus] k 23:37:27 [ r2d2rogers] so I think this is a great idea 23:37:34 [ wharp] Well it does, but it has to be approved 23:37:37 [ Palintheus] something like ubuntu-us-la@email.com? 23:37:38 [ Robdgreat] at the risk of sounding completely ignorant, I only just learned about -- TreyBrown [[DateTime(2008-02-22T06:18:35Z)]] 23:37:41 [ r2d2rogers] true 23:37:42 [ wharp] but its not very user friendly 23:37:55 [ wharp] Palintheus: most places don't allow - 23:37:55 /bin/sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string 23:37:59 [ wharp] I know gmail doesn't 23:38:05 [ Palintheus] ok so . or _ 23:38:13 [ r2d2rogers] so we need input good idea? 23:38:20 [ wharp] Robdgreat: no worries, I'm on the wiki team and it took me a while to figure that one out. 23:38:21 [ r2d2rogers] and what suggestions on the name? 23:38:47 [ Palintheus] to be consistant I suggest ubuntu*us*la or similar 23:38:59 [ Palintheus] * == whatever is accepted at the email provider 23:39:24 [ wharp] Palintheus: I agree, but will that be something an outside person will be able to use and remember easily? 23:39:40 [ wharp] does anybody else have thoughts? 23:39:45 [ Palintheus] what is easier that is still identifiable to the group? 23:39:45 [ r2d2rogers] that's a concern to me too 23:40:00 [ wharp] That I'm not sure about 23:40:02 [ michaelramm] Alabama went with a blog located at alabamaubuntu.net and setup an email at info@alabamaubuntu.net 23:40:03 [ r2d2rogers] is locola too obscure? 23:40:08 [ Palintheus] I think so yes 23:40:09 [ wharp] I think so 23:40:17 [ r2d2rogers] figured so 23:40:37 [ wharp] we don't have a domain name yet though 23:40:45 [ Palintheus] michaelramm: how did you guys work out the purchase of the domain and hosting? 23:40:46 [ wharp] well not technically 23:40:50 [ michaelramm] i am just saying you could do louisianaubuntu@gmail.com or something 23:40:51 [ r2d2rogers] michaelramm: eventually (with approval) we'll get something like la.ubuntu-us.org 23:40:58 [ wharp] ah, ok 23:41:01 [ michaelramm] I bought and host the blog on my host 23:41:06 [ michaelramm] dreamhost 23:41:11 [ wharp] louisiana.ubuntu-us.org 23:41:17 [ wharp] I believe it will be 23:41:22 [ r2d2rogers] there ya go similar to out current page... 23:41:25 [ r2d2rogers] hmm 23:41:39 [ r2d2rogers] Louisiana.ubuntu is longer, but very clear 23:41:47 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: I was thinking that too 23:42:00 [ wharp] if that's not too long for the system, I'd say we go with that 23:42:04 [ michaelramm] wharp: too convoluted...you need to remember how easy it is to remember the name 23:42:38 [ r2d2rogers] michaelramm: the louisiana.ubuntu-us.org is too convoluted? 23:42:44 [ wharp] michaelramm: the state.ubuntu-us.org is the standard that most locos use and we've been trying to follow those 23:42:50 [ michaelramm] and domains are only $10 and then you be sure to have it when you need it 23:43:24 [ michaelramm] wharp: i have not seen any of those sites... 23:43:34 [ wharp] check out ubuntu-us.org 23:43:54 [ michaelramm] r2d2rogers: yea, mixing dots and hyphens will confuse the non-computer literate folks 23:44:04 [ r2d2rogers] yeah 23:44:20 [ r2d2rogers] I agree.. one reason I'm not happy with the standard 23:44:39 [ Palintheus] where are the state.ubuntu-us.org...i see links to the wiki sites? 23:44:51 [ Palintheus] mostly 23:44:57 [ michaelramm] same here 23:45:07 [ michaelramm] except for Colorado which uses a form of that 23:45:18 [ r2d2rogers] yeha 23:45:22 [ michaelramm] http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org/ 23:45:26 [ wharp] I see both sides. 23:45:30 ::: KevinYo [n=KevinYo@adsl-149-184-229.btr.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-us-la 23:45:30 [ wharp] nj, ohio 23:45:35 [ wharp] there are others I think too 23:45:51 ::: KevinYo [n=KevinYo@adsl-149-184-229.btr.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-us-la [] 23:45:54 [ michaelramm] we chose alabamaubuntu.org [yeah, I messed up the previous one] because it is easy to remember 23:46:00 [ wharp] While I want to have something simple and easy to use, I also want to follow the staandard 23:46:14 [ Palintheus] maybe a few, but not the majority 23:46:15 [ Robdgreat] consistency ++ 23:46:21 [ michaelramm] standard only applies to IRC channels IIRC 23:46:58 [ wharp] No, but I certainly don't want to be something.ubuntu-rocks.org 23:47:12 [ michaelramm] well, they are playing off of Red Rocks 23:47:15 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: +1 23:47:20 [ michaelramm] which is understandable 23:47:24 [ wharp] While it may only apply to the IRC channels, I like the consistency 23:47:24 [ r2d2rogers] yeah they had a good theme 23:47:45 [ r2d2rogers] ubuntu.us.la @ gmail.com? 23:48:04 [ Palintheus] ++ 23:48:07 [ r2d2rogers] as we are mainly concerned with the email address tonight? 23:48:07 [ wharp] or louisiana.ubuntu @ Gmail.com? 23:48:13 [ wharp] right 23:48:22 [ r2d2rogers] any other nominations? 23:48:31 [ michaelramm] wharp: +1 [if I had a vote] 23:48:48 * r2d2rogers calls for votes 23:48:54 [ boomer] wharp: +1 23:49:05 [ Palintheus] I realize standards are currently irc only, but should we keep it consistant across the team? 23:49:11 * michaelramm is considering dual membership a la Palintheus. I did live in NO for 10 years. 23:49:16 [ r2d2rogers] <G> 23:49:40 [ Palintheus] instead of irc being -us-ls, email being ubuntu.louisiana, and website something different later.... 23:49:44 * r2d2rogers is likely to try to start trying to kick some life into -us-ar 23:49:53 [ Robdgreat] wake 'em up 23:49:56 [ michaelramm] IRC is an 'internal' resource to members...Email is an 'external' resource to GET the members in 23:50:10 [ wharp] michaelramm +1 23:50:12 [ r2d2rogers] michaelramm: that makes sense to me 23:50:19 [ wharp] very much so 23:50:28 [ michaelramm] So you need to make is Easy for the folks to get in 23:50:31 [ wharp] that really clears things up 23:50:46 [ r2d2rogers] my main issue is that la can be mistaken for Los Angelles 23:50:49 [ wharp] louisiana.ubuntu +1 23:50:56 [ wharp] so that's 3 for louisiana.ubuntu 23:51:02 [ Palintheus] personally I disagree, we advertise the IRC channel so we don't want to call it internal only 23:51:03 [ wharp] any other votes? 23:51:05 [ Palintheus] umho 23:51:07 [ Palintheus] *imho 23:51:09 [ michaelramm] especially with the slogan "linux for Human Beings' making it easy for the common man to join 23:51:17 [ gsibbery] louisiana.ubuntu +1 23:51:17 [ r2d2rogers] hmm 23:51:29 [ wharp] Palintheus: we do advertise it, but those people have already found our wiki or website 23:51:39 [ r2d2rogers] does #ubuntu-louisiana still forward? 23:51:40 [ Palintheus] and where will the email address be? 23:51:46 [ Palintheus] on the wiki or website? 23:51:51 [ Palintheus] and fliers? 23:51:51 [ r2d2rogers] paper and flyers 23:52:01 [ michaelramm] Palintheus: Joe Schmo is not going to out of the blue join the IRC channel the first SECOND he hears about ubuntu 23:52:03 [ Palintheus] will the website be on fliers? 23:52:08 [ wharp] anywhere we need it to be mostly 23:52:13 [ r2d2rogers] when we have one 23:52:16 [ michaelramm] He is more likely going to shoot off an email to someone 23:52:20 [ Palintheus] s/website/wiki 23:52:21 [ r2d2rogers] first is will be the wiki 23:52:50 [ wharp] we'll need to look at the fliers and decide what we're putting on them 23:52:51 [ r2d2rogers] wiki.ubuntu.com/LouisianaTeam 23:52:51 [ michaelramm] I also made us some business cards to hand out...lemme see if I can find them 23:52:52 [ r2d2rogers] so 23:52:59 [ michaelramm] they were a big hit with folks 23:53:01 [ wharp] speaking of business cards 23:53:05 [ r2d2rogers] lol 23:53:07 [ wharp] that's somethign else I worked on today 23:53:11 [ r2d2rogers] ::nods:: 23:53:26 [ r2d2rogers] that's what brought up the contact email question I think 23:53:30 [ wharp] wel they're not "bussiness cards" because non-members can't carry ubuntu business cards, but they'd be more "little fliers" 23:53:31 [ michaelramm] here are the business cards: http://www.flickr.com/photos/1manit/1850660880 23:53:52 [ r2d2rogers] those are nice 23:53:55 [ michaelramm] these are not the official ubuntu business cards 23:54:14 [ michaelramm] r2d2rogers: thanks 23:54:28 [ Palintheus] the only restriction on business cards are using the official template 23:54:30 [ Palintheus] iirc 23:54:32 [ r2d2rogers] only issue would be cost for color 23:54:33 [ r2d2rogers] eah 23:54:37 [ wharp] I'd like to do something similar, maybe with a sentence or two about linux/ubuntu 23:54:41 [ wharp] oh, ok 23:54:46 [ wharp] I didn't realize that 23:55:13 [ wharp] there are free templates at vista print, but they wouldn't get us a logo or pictures 23:55:28 [ michaelramm] i got avery business cards and printed them myself 23:55:50 [ wharp] ic 23:55:55 [ michaelramm] i considered the same as burning CDs 23:56:04 [ michaelramm] considered it the same* 23:56:16 [ wharp] anybody volunteer to do our business cards? 23:56:30 [ r2d2rogers] need axx to show up 23:56:36 [ r2d2rogers] he's on the art team.... 23:56:36 [ michaelramm] then I packaged them with the CD here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/1manit/1892812086 23:56:39 [ r2d2rogers] :( 23:56:58 [ r2d2rogers] michaelramm: very nice 23:57:05 [ r2d2rogers] that works well 23:57:36 [ michaelramm] i put a little piece of tape on it to hold the card in place 23:57:57 [ r2d2rogers] where in bama are you michaelramm 23:58:18 [ michaelramm] Tuscaloosa...about 4 hrs from you along I20 23:58:29 [ r2d2rogers] wanna see a hamfest? <G> 23:58:38 * michaelramm is contemplating coming to the hamfest 23:58:39 [ r2d2rogers] it's regional<G> 23:58:45 [ r2d2rogers] woot 23:58:54 [ r2d2rogers] I think it's time to call it a night 23:58:59 [ wharp] Well why don't we have the business card creation as part of the todo list for the HAM fest 23:59:04 [ wharp] r2d2rogers: +1 23:59:10 [ wharp] that's awesome michaelramm 23:59:14 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: go with the louisiana.ubuntu at this point 23:59:20 [ r2d2rogers] wharp: wilco 23:59:21 [ wharp] we'd discussed getting other loco's involved 23:59:35 [ r2d2rogers] :todo add business card design needed before hamfest 23:59:37 [+ATDT] r2d2rogers: The operation succeeded. (Todo #29 added) 23:59:52 [ r2d2rogers] that's what took me to -us-al tonight <G> 00:00:11 [ michaelramm] wharp: Need a Gmail invite? I have plenty! 00:00:17 [ wharp] stupid catchpas 00:00:18 [ r2d2rogers] Good night all, thanks for coming, please email or pm or call if you have questions 00:00:21 [ wharp] or however you spell it 00:00:26 [ wharp] no invite needed anymore 00:00:30 [ wharp] you can just sign up 00:00:37 [ michaelramm] really...did not know that 00:00:43 [ wharp] yep 00:00:46 [ r2d2rogers] I need to give all people interested in helping my cell # 00:00:49 [ wharp] not sure how long its been like that 00:00:53 [ michaelramm] I would like to get our groups involved down the road 00:00:58 [ wharp] MEETING ADJOURNED
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