1 16:55:04 <Spitty> hello folks 2 16:55:39 <GoatTuber> hey 3 16:55:58 <Spitty> we're starting at 5, right? 4 16:56:18 <GoatTuber> I believe so 5 16:57:48 <yuriy> hi Spitty, GoatTuber 6 16:58:08 <Spitty> hey yuriy 7 16:59:59 Join mgomeztccs has joined this channel (firstname.lastname@example.org). 8 17:00:17 <GoatTuber> heya 9 17:00:52 <mgomeztccs> good afternoon 10 17:01:17 <Spitty> hey 11 17:01:29 <yuriy> hi mgomeztccs 12 17:01:42 <mgomeztccs> hello 13 17:03:32 <thornomad> i am here as well. 14 17:05:10 <yuriy> 5/12... 15 17:05:15 <Spitty> should we get started, or are we going to wait for some latecomers? 16 17:06:23 <yuriy> let's get started 17 17:07:32 <GoatTuber> I'm still at work throwing together a report, so I'll be back and forth between here and coding 18 17:07:44 <thornomad> get going 19 17:08:03 <yuriy> hi, i'm Yuriy, I am student at brandeis university. I'm trying to get this MA team together, I'm glad those who are here showed up. 20 17:08:04 <thornomad> that's my vote 21 17:08:23 <yuriy> i think everybody introduced themselves already on the forums or on the ml, but go ahead and itroduce yourself if you like 22 17:08:31 <thornomad> hi yuriy. i live in worcester, work for a hospital. i like linux 23 17:08:43 <jdhoreotg> heh 24 17:08:53 <Spitty> I'm Ryan, I'm currently a senior in high school in Arlington, and I think that the more people using linux, the better 25 17:09:10 <mgomeztccs> i am a teacher at a small christian school. i am trying to set up edubuntu in our school 26 17:09:11 <jdhoreotg> hi everybody, i'm JD, i live in NYC, work for a telecom company...and i'm addicted to linux 27 17:09:22 <jdhoreotg> Spitty, i disagree with you there 28 17:09:41 Mode ChanServ gives channel operator privileges to jdhoreotg. 29 17:09:43 <Spitty> well, the more people that are given the option, the better 30 17:10:06 <jdhoreotg> true, but i think the more people switch, Linux will suffer from the same security flaws as Windows 31 17:10:10 <yuriy> hey jdhoreotg 32 17:10:11 <GoatTuber> I think it goes... the more educated people are about Linux the better 33 17:10:16 <yuriy> jdhoreotg: if you are wondering, getting our own channel is on the agenda ;) 34 17:10:25 <jdhoreotg> it's ok 35 17:10:33 <jdhoreotg> feel free to chill here as long as you'd like 36 17:11:37 <yuriy> ok so technical points 37 17:11:48 <GoatTuber> I'm Dan, I live in Lynn, work in Boston, and 3/5 of the configured PCs in my house run Ubuntu 38 17:11:49 <yuriy> do we need our own IRC channel and/or forum? 39 17:12:09 <jdhoreotg> i think so since it seems to be a pretty decent sized group 40 17:12:29 <Spitty> where would the forum be hosted? 41 17:12:36 <yuriy> Spitty: ubuntuforums.org 42 17:12:41 <Spitty> cool 43 17:12:46 <thornomad> how many do we have ? I agree it would be nice. but don't like to get too spread out. hard to monitor everything i have my toe in 44 17:12:51 <yuriy> Spitty: like the NY and NJ teams have 45 17:12:59 <yuriy> thornomad: 12 people 46 17:13:35 <yuriy> I think an IRC channel is good, or at least, why not, but I don't really see the need for separate forums for every state 47 17:13:49 * yuriy forgot to ask ravtux to show up 48 17:13:54 <jdhoreotg> heh 49 17:14:18 <Spitty> if nothing else, a subforum would let people know that we're out there, but i understand the concerns about spreading out 50 17:14:23 <thornomad> i would agree with that. i like the state unity bit but between the mailing list and an IRC should be pretty easy to keep state stuff hapenning 51 17:14:45 <GoatTuber> sounds about right 52 17:15:03 Join MichaelSelva has joined this channel (n=Babbel@c-24-61-46-171.hsd1.ma.comcast.net). 53 17:15:13 <yuriy> hi MichaelSelva 54 17:15:17 <MichaelSelva> hello 55 17:15:20 <Spitty> welcome to the party 56 17:15:30 <MichaelSelva> Thanks! 57 17:16:26 <MichaelSelva> Using BABBEL irc client for first time, never used freenode before, so please bear with me if I'm a little slow in responding. 58 17:16:51 <GoatTuber> ugh, I just wrote 161 lines of code with only 3 comments... talk about a rush job 59 17:17:05 <jdhoreotg> Babbel kind of sucks IMO, MichaelSelva 60 17:17:13 <yuriy> GoatTuber: 3 > 0 :) 61 17:17:35 <MichaelSelva> I google'd "irc client Mac OS" and this was the first one I found that runs on Intel Macs 62 17:17:41 <jdhoreotg> ahh 63 17:17:52 <MichaelSelva> I'm open to any recommendations 64 17:18:01 <jdhoreotg> Colloquy, X-Chat Aqua, or a client called iRC are all better than Babbel 65 17:18:11 <mgomeztccs> i'm using colloquy. its pretty nice' 66 17:18:11 <jdhoreotg> i prefer Colloquy and iRC personally 67 17:18:29 <yuriy> ok so everybody agrees on getting #ubuntu-us-ma ? I'd like to hear more opinions about a forum 68 17:18:43 <MichaelSelva> Are Linux clients more robust / easier to use? I'm running EDUBUNTU Linux within Parallels on the Mac. 69 17:19:09 <GoatTuber> #ubuntu-us-ma sounds good... no preference for forums though 70 17:19:11 <jdhoreotg> i'd stick with an OSx client 71 17:19:17 <thornomad> I think it can't hurt to have another IRC channel. I think there are too many forums as it is. 72 17:19:27 <yuriy> robust? 73 17:19:30 <GoatTuber> I agree 74 17:20:00 <MichaelSelva> Eventually I want to switch my school computer lab over to Linux, so I'd be interested in exploring irc clients within that environment eventually. But for now I'm primarily Mac-based 75 17:20:23 <yuriy> konversation is nice, dunno about gnome stuff 76 17:20:37 <Spitty> i think we should have a seperate IRC channel, but no forum yet- is there another way to notify people on the forums of our existence? 77 17:20:38 <MichaelSelva> Is anyone else on this chat working at a school? 78 17:20:47 <mgomeztccs> i am 79 17:20:54 <MichaelSelva> Where? 80 17:21:23 <yuriy> jdhoreotg: you the resident irc expert? 81 17:21:30 <jdhoreotg> yep 82 17:21:50 <mgomeztccs> lunenburg, ma 83 17:22:05 <yuriy> jdhoreotg: what do we need to do to get a designated channel? 84 17:22:13 <jdhoreotg> nothing 85 17:22:15 <C_J_Pro> O_o 86 17:22:17 <yuriy> just join it? 87 17:22:29 <jdhoreotg> all you need is about 5 minutes of time and a decent knowledge of IRC 88 17:22:57 <C_J_Pro> Here are the commands: 89 17:23:03 * yuriy doesn't have the latter, iffy on the former :D 90 17:23:04 <MichaelSelva> mgomeztccs: I am the computer teacher / tech specialist / computer guy at a K-5 parochial school in Watertown, MA. New gig, just started in November. 91 17:23:06 <GoatTuber> I don't work for a school, but I'm working with a teacher over at the Bunker Hill elementary school on setting up an Edubuntu thin client network 92 17:23:07 <C_J_Pro> /join #ubuntu-ns-**** 93 17:23:24 <yuriy> C_J_Pro: heh that i can do 94 17:23:29 <C_J_Pro> /cs register #ubuntu-ns-**** Description 95 17:23:31 <jdhoreotg> then to register it, the command is: /chanserv register #ubuntu-us-ma password 96 17:23:42 <C_J_Pro> It's password? 97 17:23:47 <C_J_Pro> It's one or the other 98 17:23:48 <jdhoreotg> but you have to join the channel first 99 17:23:53 <jdhoreotg> it's password 100 17:24:00 <C_J_Pro> Password is optional 101 17:24:03 <MichaelSelva> GoatTuber: One of the things I wanted to suggest today is a "barn-raising" team for installing Edubuntu in schools. 102 17:24:11 <C_J_Pro> So just /cs register #ubuntu-us-ma 103 17:24:26 <yuriy> jdhoreotg, C_J_Pro: thanks. i'll look up docs and learn irc commands better when i get a chance 104 17:24:37 <jdhoreotg> good plan 105 17:24:49 <C_J_Pro> Now, to the school. I got a Windows XP machine to hassle with 106 17:24:58 <MichaelSelva> What I mean is that an experienced edubuntu-er teams up with a novice to set up a network, and then the novice becomes the experienced person who helps the next novice, and so on . . . 107 17:25:05 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: ok let's get to that 108 17:25:07 <yuriy> GOALS 109 17:25:45 Mode jdhoreotg gives channel operator privileges to you. 110 17:25:58 <C_J_Pro> ... 111 17:26:04 Join thornomad_ has joined this channel (email@example.com). 112 17:26:10 <yuriy> i think getting ed/ubuntu into schools should be a big point 113 17:26:18 <jdhoreotg> his meeting, he gets ops until the meeting is over 114 17:26:31 <GoatTuber> yuriy: definately 115 17:27:04 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: did you have any details in mind? 116 17:27:08 <thornomad_> schools or community centers or something like that. would be terrific 117 17:28:33 <Spitty> yeah. maybe we could help out local LUG's with install-fests, or even hold our own 118 17:28:53 <GoatTuber> most schools already have small networks set up, and old boxes sitting around collecting dust. Setting up a decent server would be a small investment, then the number of thin clients they could toss on it gives more students a chance to use a machine rather than huddling around one or idly waiting by 119 17:29:50 <MichaelSelva> Well, for starters, I have a computer lab with 11 Windoze XP workstations, which I am eager to transform into an edubuntu network. Once it is up & running I could make it available for site visits from prospective edubuntu users, or training sessions, or meetings of the local ubutu users group, etc. 120 17:30:00 <mgomeztccs> that's a great idea 121 17:30:12 <GoatTuber> the school by Bunker Hill has 6 whole computers for classes of 30+ students 122 17:30:21 <Spitty> yeah, that's really excellent 123 17:30:23 <mgomeztccs> also, some sort of network for taking donated computers would be good. a lot of us are in the tech industry 124 17:30:34 <GoatTuber> MichaelSelva: that would be great 125 17:30:40 <Spitty> I know MIT has a structure for that 126 17:30:41 <MichaelSelva> Is there a central clearing house for inquiries about edubuntu, where we could contact interested schools? 127 17:30:43 <thornomad_> yea, that would be neat. I haven't experimented with edubuntu (except to install it for my brother) but the thin client concept sounds pretty awesome 128 17:30:47 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: yes, great idea as well 129 17:30:51 * yuriy has some lying around 130 17:31:26 Join claydoh has joined this channel (firstname.lastname@example.org). 131 17:31:30 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: that's something I think we would have to organize 132 17:31:56 <Spitty> MIT has something called the "used computer factory" where people donate computers, and they then repair them and donate them to people without PCs 133 17:32:00 <yuriy> and really that's my main concern, how to approach schools with such things? 134 17:32:00 <MichaelSelva> In addition to the 11 workstations in my computer lab, my school has a couple of dozen machines sitting around collecting dust, but they could probably function fine as thin clients. 135 17:32:14 <Spitty> i'm pretty sure most of them so out as windows PCs, though 136 17:32:35 <Spitty> yuriy: we'd need a very polished marketing campaign to be taken seriously 137 17:32:48 <yuriy> Spitty: indeed. 138 17:33:01 <GoatTuber> Spitty: weird, I have a couple old Solaris boxes MIT donated to me before they fired me =) 139 17:33:10 <Spitty> and I don't think we could present ourselves as a total replacement for existing windows networks- at least, not at first 140 17:33:11 <MichaelSelva> I belong to a group called MassCUE (Massachusetts Computer Using Educators), which has a monthly newsletter: a good place to run a classified ad or announcement once we are ready to do stuff with schools. 141 17:33:24 <mgomeztccs> i think we would have to start by having one school do it and show what can be done 142 17:33:44 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: interesting. 143 17:33:45 <Spitty> something else we can use is local cable access TV stations 144 17:33:50 <mgomeztccs> having some kind of curriculum to go with it would be a big sell too 145 17:34:19 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: sounds like MichaelSelva and you are starting on that? the one school to show that is 146 17:34:26 <MichaelSelva> My understanding is that you can install edubuntu on a windoze machine in "dual boot" mode, so you can switch back & forth between the two OSes as needed. 147 17:34:36 <Spitty> yeah 148 17:34:48 <mgomeztccs> MichaelSelva: does that work with a thin-client setup? 149 17:35:07 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: not with thin-clients, but with complete machines that'd work 150 17:35:08 <MichaelSelva> Another potential venue is public libraries, which never seem to have enough computers. 151 17:35:39 <GoatTuber> mgomeztccs: as far as I know, you'd have to do that through the BIOS. Just set it to network boot before the HD 152 17:35:47 <yuriy> Spitty: do you know local LUGs? are they listed somewhere? 153 17:35:52 <Spitty> something that would be very cool to have is a video documenting the installation of the Edubuntu boxes 154 17:36:01 <mgomeztccs> GoatTuber: i mean, the thin-clients tend to be bare-bones. 155 17:36:11 <Spitty> yuriy, I do not, but I'm sure there's a list floating about somewhere on the web 156 17:36:15 <MichaelSelva> Newbie question: what is a LUG? Local user group? 157 17:36:22 <GoatTuber> tend to be, but it's not mandatory 158 17:36:34 <mgomeztccs> gotcha 159 17:36:45 <yuriy> GoatTuber: but that's the general idea and advantage of a thinclient 160 17:36:49 <mgomeztccs> MichaelSelva: linux user group? 161 17:37:04 <mgomeztccs> GoatTuber: and that's what schools tend to have lying around 162 17:37:32 <GoatTuber> Indeed. I'm not saying it's a great idea... it's just doable 163 17:37:39 <Spitty> mgomeztccs has it. a LUG is a linux user group that promotes linux in a given geographical area 164 17:37:49 <MichaelSelva> In my school, I am planning a mix of dual boot and thin client machines. 165 17:37:50 <mgomeztccs> GoatTuber: and probably preferable 166 17:37:54 <Spitty> often centered around colleges 167 17:38:12 <GoatTuber> having to switch the BIOS to dual boot is almost as bad as MS's boot manager 168 17:38:13 <MichaelSelva> spitty: thanks for the clarification on LUGs 169 17:38:29 * yuriy just found out someone esle in my class uses kubuntu 170 17:40:01 <GoatTuber> has anyone booted Linux from a USB drive? 171 17:40:07 <thornomad_> i think that you would need to locate a "pilot program" .. a school that was willing to be a test subject. then setup a network there. get the benefits lined up (lots of machines for a low per-machine cost) and go from there. 172 17:40:12 <yuriy> ok 1. schools/libraries (MichaelSelva, mgomeztccs keep us posted and ask if you need any help!) 2. help LUGs with 173 17:40:18 <GoatTuber> that could be good for giving demos 174 17:40:26 <yuriy> 2. help LUGs with installfests 175 17:40:34 <yuriy> 2a. TODO: find LUGs 176 17:40:43 <MichaelSelva> what is installfest? 177 17:41:10 <Spitty> a bunch of people get together and install linux for people who wouldn't otherwise be able to do it 178 17:41:16 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: an event where people can bring computers where linux users can help them get set up 179 17:41:21 <mgomeztccs> i couldn't go with a full-fledged lab as we already have one with brand new macs. but i'd like to put computers in all the classrooms using edubuntu. 180 17:41:50 <Spitty> there's a list of LUGs in MA here: http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=MA but there's only two 181 17:41:52 <yuriy> GoatTuber: yeah linux can run of a USB drive 182 17:42:03 <yuriy> but a live-cd is just as good for demos 183 17:42:08 <Spitty> one in worcester, and one in boston 184 17:42:08 <mgomeztccs> thornomad_: curriculum would be good to go with it. projects kids can do using open office or tux paint or scribus. 185 17:43:21 <MichaelSelva> Don't forget KTURTLE! I teach logo to students in grades 1-5, and kturtle appears to be a very good version of logo. 186 17:43:33 <mgomeztccs> lots of possibilities 187 17:43:35 <yuriy> what's logo? 188 17:43:49 <MichaelSelva> It comes as part of standard edubuntu install. 189 17:43:50 <mgomeztccs> but its important not just to give them computers but give them something to do with them 190 17:43:58 <GoatTuber> yuriy: I've showed people the live-cd on their computers, and I've shown it to people already installed on my laptop. The live cd shows them "here's what you start with", but the laptop shows them what they can do with it. 191 17:44:29 <GoatTuber> showed? 192 17:44:31 <GoatTuber> shown* 193 17:45:18 <MichaelSelva> LOGO is a progarmming language invented around 30 years ago by some MIT folks as a tool for introducing computer programming to youngsters. Best known for "turtle graphics" capability - intricate geometric designs based on a very small vocabulary of commands to a virtual "turtle" on screen. 194 17:45:41 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: trying to remember how we used computers in elementary school... i guess a curriculum as you describe would be needed, yes 195 17:45:55 <yuriy> but not as relevant to say a middle school or higher 196 17:46:23 <mgomeztccs> yuriy: we have curriculum for kindergarten through 12th grade. elementary comes in once a week to work on a project that integrates with another part of their curriculum. 197 17:46:45 <Spitty> in my high school, computers are mainly used to do research, write papers, or some other similar mundane stuff 198 17:47:26 <mgomeztccs> our students develop websites (using Joomla CMS) create and edit videos, and learn microsoft office. 199 17:47:35 <MichaelSelva> Same with my school - activities in my lab are collaboration between myself & the regular teachers. Typical assignment: use Web to research a topic, then use Word or Powerpoint to write up results. 200 17:48:06 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: interesting. 201 17:48:36 <yuriy> i guess we had the occasional MS Office class in middle school, but in high school we had one course on keyboarding, and everything else assumed you know how to use a computer/office applications 202 17:49:03 <Spitty> i think open office more than fills the place of MS office 203 17:49:05 <yuriy> and the keyboarding (typing) course is OS agnostic i would hope 204 17:49:09 <mgomeztccs> we contracted with school technology programs (schooltechnologyprograms.com) 205 17:49:21 <Spitty> especially considering that most schools are running office 97 or so 206 17:49:23 <mgomeztccs> Open office would be a great replacement and save schools $ 207 17:49:30 <Spitty> exactly 208 17:50:09 <MichaelSelva> We have several packaged keyboard tutorials (Type to Learn), and by the 5th grade most of our students can use keyboard efficiently, even if they aren't quite "touch typists" yet. 209 17:50:26 <thornomad_> yea i think a curriculum would be neat, but that's a lot of work. i did a curriculum for a short eight week in school theatre program and it took forever. i think our first point should be that kids need computers; second: schools need computers. third: edubuntu is cheap and better. 210 17:50:30 <MichaelSelva> Another plus of edubuntu: comes with its own typing tutorial. 211 17:50:52 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: a little confused what schooltechnologyprograms do. are we looking to basically try to do the same thing ourselves? 212 17:51:20 <mgomeztccs> yuriy: maybe eventually 213 17:51:31 <mgomeztccs> whoops, gotta put my daughters in the tub, be right back 214 17:51:47 <MichaelSelva> Curriculum is not a problem for schools. there is LOTS and LOTS of stuff in the public domain for teaching basics of computer operation, as well as specifics of word, excel, and other office apps. 215 17:52:04 <GoatTuber> I've tried a couple of the typing packages, they seemd rather... half finished 216 17:52:30 <thornomad_> MichaelSelva: I agree. bring them computers and let them do the curriculum. with mcas and all that other nonsense they know what they think they need to teach. we can give them a better platform to teach it on 217 17:53:03 <yuriy> ok so sounds like we have a general idea what we want to do as far as schools go. we should start putting together some sort of todo list, but that's for a later meeting. 218 17:53:09 <yuriy> any other major goal points? 219 17:53:26 <MichaelSelva> a "live" meeting would be nice 220 17:53:38 <mgomeztccs> definitely 221 17:53:45 <yuriy> MichaelSelva: specifics of word/excel, but what about OO.o? 222 17:53:59 <yuriy> MichaelSelva, mgomeztccs: yes, let's plan one 223 17:54:02 <MichaelSelva> what is 00.0? 224 17:54:09 <yuriy> OpenOffice.org 225 17:54:10 <mgomeztccs> open office.org 226 17:54:45 <yuriy> ok i want to decide the forum question first 227 17:55:01 <MichaelSelva> can use tutorials designed for em-ess word & excel for open office, much of the command structure & interface is identical 228 17:55:51 Quit thornomad has left this server (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 229 17:56:06 <yuriy> on one hand every team seems to be getting their own, on the other hand i don't really understand why 230 17:56:36 <mgomeztccs> do we have a separate website? I thought i saw one 231 17:57:00 <yuriy> mgomeztccs: wiki page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MassachusettsTeam 232 17:57:26 <GoatTuber> there's the wiki, thinkpad, and something on cafelinux... 233 17:57:35 <yuriy> thinkpad? 234 17:57:37 <mgomeztccs> http://www.cafelinux.org/nuubuntuteam/ 235 17:57:45 <GoatTuber> no, I'm a tard 236 17:57:47 <GoatTuber> I forget 237 17:58:08 <GoatTuber> launchpad 238 17:58:09 <GoatTuber> heh 239 17:58:31 <yuriy> yes we're a team on launchpad 240 17:58:33 <GoatTuber> I just did an xubuntu install on a 233MHz Thinkpad with 64MB RAM 241 17:58:55 <yuriy> GoatTuber: work well? 242 17:58:57 <GoatTuber> so I still had "Thinkpad" stuck in my head 243 17:59:17 <GoatTuber> let's just say it worked 244 17:59:42 <Spitty> heh, define "worked" 245 17:59:59 <GoatTuber> well, like that slogan, it "just works" 246 18:00:07 <GoatTuber> it doesn't say how long it takes to get there 247 18:00:12 <Spitty> hahaha 248 18:01:09 <GoatTuber> we then ripped out the old sticks and threw in two new 128MB sticks, then he through regular Ubuntu on it 249 18:01:36 <GoatTuber> threw* (jesus my grammer is bad today) 250 18:01:49 * yuriy scrolls up. ok i guess no one particularly wanting a forum. 251 18:02:21 <MichaelSelva> the "sticky thread" for boston area works fine for me 252 18:02:40 <yuriy> Spitty: you were concerned about getting word out we exist on the forums? what do you mean exactly? announce it to NU team? US teams? 253 18:03:04 <GoatTuber> so, now he's running straight ubuntu and tooling around with it a bit. It takes about 3 minutes to boot up, and then it does its thing. I suggested switching back to xfce to cut down on some overhead 254 18:03:12 <Spitty> I wasn't aware of the sticky thread (or I possibly forgot.) As long as people can find out that we're out there, I'm happy 255 18:03:20 <mgomeztccs> MichaelSelva: if we get bigger and more involved that might get to be a pretty big thread 256 18:04:30 <yuriy> i think that any communication that shouldn't be on the mailing list would be stuff that should have a wider audience than our own forum anyway 257 18:05:24 <GoatTuber> I think we generally want to avoid creating yet another forum. I say if the thread ends up being inadequate, then we expand to a new forum. 258 18:05:37 <Spitty> i agree with that 259 18:05:45 <MichaelSelva> I second goattuber's motion. 260 18:06:04 <mgomeztccs> sounds good 261 18:06:09 <yuriy> it's not really just the thread. we have the NU team forum. I think stuff that gets posted to forums should generally have a wider audience than just us anyway 262 18:06:25 <GoatTuber> indeed 263 18:06:32 <yuriy> ok 264 18:06:38 <yuriy> in person meeting 265 18:06:52 <GoatTuber> I think maybe MA specific events could be posted in the thread 266 18:07:18 <Spitty> this kind of brings up the question- where is it easy for everyone to get to? 267 18:07:47 <yuriy> for most people probably somewhere in/around boston 268 18:07:53 <GoatTuber> I work right around the corner from Faneuil Hall/Quincy Market 269 18:07:57 <MichaelSelva> I'd like to "nominate" Stella's Pizza on Mount Auburn Street in Watertown as the site for a live meet. Food is great, easy accesss by car or bus, 2 miles from Harvard Sq red line. 270 18:08:20 <Spitty> that's on the 71 and 73, right? 271 18:08:43 <Spitty> (buses) 272 18:08:49 <MichaelSelva> AND . . . if we want to do more than eat, my school / computer lab is two blocks away, and I have several extra machines to experiment with. 273 18:09:36 <MichaelSelva> Correct! The 71 and 73 both originate @ Harv Square, then they split off with one going to Watertown the other to Belmont. 274 18:09:49 <yuriy> sounds good to me.. although, 2 mi walk from red line? 275 18:09:53 <Spitty> that's really easy for me- how about other people? 276 18:10:03 <Spitty> take the 71 or the 73 from harvard square 277 18:10:07 <yuriy> what's 71 and 73? buses? 278 18:10:09 <mgomeztccs> i'm okay with that. when? 279 18:10:10 <Spitty> yeah 280 18:10:20 <MichaelSelva> Wednesday is best day for me. 281 18:10:26 <GoatTuber> if it's during the week, I'd have to take the train back to Revere and grab my car, then drive in 282 18:10:42 <mgomeztccs> sorry, but wednesday's really bad for me 283 18:10:50 <GoatTuber> so anything before 8pm would be impossible 284 18:11:13 <Spitty> weekend, maybe? 285 18:11:16 <yuriy> weekends or anytime week after next works for me 286 18:11:28 <GoatTuber> weekends are good for me 287 18:11:38 <yuriy> weekdays are very busy lately (just spent two entire nights working on 1 assignment :O) 288 18:11:39 <mgomeztccs> saturdays would be best for me 289 18:12:25 <MichaelSelva> Sunday afternoons would be a possibility for me, but I'm not sure if I have access to school during weekend. Pizza parlor is open 7 days / week. 290 18:12:57 <Spitty> saturday is fine with me 291 18:13:50 <MichaelSelva> how about sat the 31st? 292 18:14:12 <mgomeztccs> crap, our school has a banquet that night 293 18:14:25 <MichaelSelva> afternoon? 294 18:14:44 <mgomeztccs> that may be doable. i live in Fitchburg, so i'd need time to get back home 295 18:14:59 <Spitty> that works well for me 296 18:15:03 <mgomeztccs> sorry my schedule is so picky :( 297 18:15:59 <MichaelSelva> How about If we meet for lunch @ pizza parlor around 12, and then, time permitting, a visit to computer lab. 298 18:16:08 <yuriy> anytime 3/31 to 4/11 is good for me. 299 18:16:10 <mgomeztccs> that sounds good. 300 18:16:15 <Spitty> fine by me 301 18:16:23 <Spitty> what's the name of the pizza place again? 302 18:16:44 <GoatTuber> I'll be late, you can count on it 303 18:17:15 <MichaelSelva> OK, I will be happy to serve as the official "host" for this gathering. I'll send an email to the list with exact location, bus routes, google map, etc. 304 18:17:18 <yuriy> sat 3/31 12pm at Stella's Pizza on Mount Auburn Street in Watertown 305 18:17:30 <mgomeztccs> excellent 306 18:17:37 <MichaelSelva> the deal is done. I look forward to meeting all of you in person. 307 18:17:41 <yuriy> so it's accessible by car right? since it's over break i'll be driving 308 18:17:51 <mgomeztccs> gotta go, daughters in tub crying. look forward to meeting everyone 309 18:17:54 <MichaelSelva> yes, and parking is very cheap 310 18:18:28 <yuriy> ok thanks all for showing up and see you in two weeks 311 18:18:36 <yuriy> meeting adjourned :D 312 18:18:36 <MichaelSelva> meters are 25 cents an hour, or you can park for free if you park a little further away! 313 18:18:50 Quit mgomeztccs has left this server. 314 18:18:51 <MichaelSelva> thank you yuriy for organizing this chat! 1 315 18:18:53 <yuriy> oh and sorry it was kind of long 316 18:19:10 <GoatTuber> if I get time, I'll work on my logo idea 317 18:19:34 <Spitty> no worries, thanks yuriy for the hard work 318 18:20:08 <MichaelSelva> and thanks to everyone else esp for advice on irc clients 319 18:20:23 <GoatTuber> thinking about having Tux standing inside the Ubuntu ring wearing a feather or two, dumping a "Windows" crate 320 18:20:53 <Spitty> heh, if only I had artistic talent 321 18:21:00 <MichaelSelva> I think I'll wear my tuxedo to our meeting 322 18:21:11 <GoatTuber> and if only I didn't have a million projects 323 18:21:14 <yuriy> lol 324 18:21:32 <GoatTuber> and distractions... by the way I'm up to 5 whole comments 325 18:21:44 <Spitty> ok folks, nice meeting you all, i've got to run 326 18:22:07 Quit Spitty has left this server ("Leaving"). 327 18:22:11 <MichaelSelva> ten-four, over & out 328 18:22:44 Quit MichaelSelva has left this server ("Babbel v070113.19 Mac OS X Edition (Intel) - http://www.babbelirc.com"). 329 18:23:55 <GoatTuber> ok, I gotta integrate this report and push it to production, I'm off 330 18:24:10 Part GoatTuber has left this channel.