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06:02 Kamion ok, ready to start? 06:02 gnomefreak NickGarvey: i dont think it started yet 06:02 ubuntu_demon dholbach: I prefer my privacy. There's 140.000 users on the forums. Most are very nice but some aren't (I am in no personal issues or conflicts but I'm just a bit paranoid) 06:02 Kamion this is a meeting for consideration of membership candidates only 06:02 Kamion so that we can catch up a bit 06:02 simira Kamion: what about the other cases? 06:02 Kamion other cases? 06:03 elmo issues 06:03 Kamion either we'll do them at the end, or we'll defer them to next time 06:03 simira ok 06:03 Kamion depending on how time goes 06:03 Kamion I get thrown out of this meeting room in two hours, AFAIK 06:03 simira 'nough chitchat, then 06:03 dholbach ubuntu_demon: that's ok with me - i was just relaying :) 06:03 Kamion # 06:03 Kamion RolandoBlanco whitesoft 06:03 ubuntu_demon dholbach: ;) 06:04 Kamion oh, we should check for quorum ... 06:04 Kamion mako: here? 06:04 Kamion sabdfl won't be making it === GnuKemist [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:05 mako yes === dholbach_ [n=daniel@p54A82627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako catches up 06:05 mako alright === DaSkreech [n=david@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:06 mako membership candidates === GnuKemist is OgMaciel === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.200.8] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:06 mako rolando is not here it seems? 06:06 Kamion apparently not 06:06 mako Kirjanov Denis === Gun_Smoke [n=daryl@c-68-85-72-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:07 Seveas (Matthew Revell is already approved) 06:07 mako Seveas: yes :) 06:08 mako also, for Kirjanov Denis's future reference 06:08 mako the wiki page is a bit thin and the launchpad activity for the last month is not giving me a whole lot more evidence 06:08 mako so i think there's still some documentation work left to go 06:08 Kamion I agree 06:09 Kamion also the "solved bugs" item is in fact a support ticket === mako nods 06:09 mako alright, i'll find some way to note that or communicate it to Kirjanov after the meeting 06:09 Kamion and the specification is just a few lines with no fleshing out in the form of a wiki page or anything 06:09 mako alright.. moving on.. Carthik Sharma 06:10 carthik mako, Hi. 06:10 mako carthik: go ahead 06:10 carthik Is it okay if I paste three lines by way of introduction? 06:10 carthik I (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarthikSharma ) have triaged around 950 bugs (http://launchpad.net/people/carthik ), filed around 60, and help with the ubuntu-qa and desktop-bugs teams 06:10 mako carthik: please do 06:10 carthik I (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarthikSharma ) have triaged around 950 bugs (http://launchpad.net/people/carthik ), filed around 60, and help with the ubuntu-qa and desktop-bugs teams 06:10 carthik oops 06:10 DShepherd the meeting has started? 06:10 carthik I write the Ubuntu Blog (http://ubuntu.wordpress.com ), and on the Fridge; and was the technical reviewer of Ubuntu Linux for Non Geeks, a No Starch Press publication. === gnomefreak is +1 for carthik (im kind of in and out) 06:10 carthik I designed the http://ubuntu-in.org site, and am the treasurer of the LUG at UCF (http://lugatucf.org ). I try to help others on IRC whenever I can. 06:10 Kamion Matthew East asked me to say of carthik: 06:10 Kamion I've also been really impressed since Carthik joined the Fridge team, he is already a key contributor and a major part of the team with plenty of ideas and articles too. His blog shows that he will be central to the new Fridge team. 06:10 Kamion </end> === Seveas starts cheerleading for carthik -- malone loves sending me mail on his behalf 06:11 carthik Thanks Kamion 06:11 sfllaw carthik has been an essential and wonderful part of the BugSquad. 06:11 Kamion FWIW carthik has been very helpful on ubiquity bugs 06:11 mako carthik: did you do tech for the whole book? 06:11 Kamion +1 from me 06:11 carthik mako, yes 06:11 dholbach carthik does incredible work for the BugSquad! 06:11 mako carthik: stamina, cool! :) 06:12 gnomefreak he is a very great help with bugs :) 06:12 jono ntu :) 06:12 dholbach https://launchpad.net/people/carthik/+karma say a lot :) 06:12 carthik I did get paid though, so that is not really "community work", mako :) 06:12 jono oops 06:12 jono :) 06:12 mako jono: i was about to ask? 06:12 jono heh 06:12 mako carthik: still can be an important contribution worth considering 06:13 mako anyway, loads of good stuff 06:13 seb128 carthik does a really good job on desktop bugs as well 06:13 mako carthik: see you around for quite a while, thrilled to have you as a member :) 06:13 mako carthik: where are you local to now 06:14 carthik Thank you, mako. 06:14 carthik Orlando, FL, mako === gora [n=gora@125.23.62.109] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:14 mako carthik: saw your timezone, thought you might be near me :) 06:14 jono carthik, cool I am there in late sept :) 06:14 carthik If anyone wants to see mickey, I might have a couch available :) 06:15 DaSkreech raphink: Some update (before the infamous Xbork) Borked my X 06:15 DaSkreech I have no errors however X will not start 06:15 mako i'm sure disneyworld is exactly why jono is going ;) 06:15 carthik jono, cool - we could do something related at UCF (univ of central florida) or just have fun. Let me know if you need local help/cheap tickets etc 06:15 elmo +1 from me too 06:15 jono mako, :P 06:15 jono carthik, cool :) 06:15 Kamion DaSkreech: please use another channel 06:15 mako carthik: welcome! 06:15 profoX` DaSkreech: #ubuntu for support 06:15 mako Andreas Lloyd 06:16 DaSkreech Whoops ;) 06:16 dholbach carthik: ROCK ON! :) 06:16 Seveas carthik, gongratulations! 06:16 DaSkreech Sorry finger slip 06:16 mako lloydinho: ? 06:16 lloydinho hi all! 06:16 Kamion ... oh, that would be the person just there to my right 06:16 Kamion hmm 06:16 lloydinho :-) 06:16 Kamion naturally I am morally obliged to say no ;-) 06:16 Spec carthik: welcome 06:16 simira Kamion: be nice. 06:16 Kamion (kidding, obviously) 06:16 lloydinho I've used Ubuntu since november 2004, it is the only Linux distribution I've used. Using Ubuntu inspired me to do my master's thesis on the Ubuntu community. 06:16 carthik Thanks mako, Kamion, elmo, seb128, dholbach, sfllaw, gnomefreak (woot!) 06:16 DaSkreech apologies all === simira gives thumbs up for lloydinho 06:16 gnomefreak congrats carthik 06:17 lloydinho I am an anthropology graduate student in my final year at the University of Copenhagen, and this project has led me to a lot of other initiatives in the Ubuntu community which can be seen on my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndreasLloyd 06:17 GnuKemist congrats carthik 06:17 jono carthik, /msg me if you can 06:17 lloydinho oh, and congrats to carthik .. :-) 06:17 licio carthik, welcome :) 06:17 raphink welcome carthik 06:17 seb128 carthik: congra 06:17 seb128 carthik: congrat 06:18 ubuntu_demon lloydinho: Was very enthousiastic on UDS. I spoke to him about his fieldwork and survey. IMHO he is a nice contribution to the Ubuntu community. 06:18 mako other testimonials? 06:18 mako someone from the doc team maybe? 06:18 lloydinho hey, thanks ubuntu_demon. 06:18 ubuntu_demon lloydinho: np :) 06:19 lloydinho I forgot to bring any cheerleaders. 06:19 Kamion https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu is a nice piece of work === simira cheers for lloydinho 06:19 mako i was JUST going to say that 06:19 mako lloydinho: so, i assume you've seen or have worked from the participate page 06:19 mako lloydinho: on the ubuntu website 06:20 nixternal heh 06:20 mako lloydinho: this seems like that page on steroids.. or perhaps what that should page should be 06:20 lloydinho mako, I have. That was the inspiration for this ContributeDoc 06:20 mako which begs the question.... :) 06:20 Kamion access control on /participate is probably a mite too tight 06:20 mako i point people to the participate page probably 5-10 times a week === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA3E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:20 mako but we should have that page point there 06:21 Kamion (not that it can be different really due to how www. works) 06:21 nixternal CC: let me just quickly state that Lloyd is incredibly important to documentation right now, and mdke could definitely tell you more about that. Lloyd has created a lot of cool stuff for us, including the new contribute documentation...he is a great assett to the Ubuntu community w/o a doubt! 06:21 mako or something 06:21 Kamion a link seems pretty reasonable, perhaps if ContributeToUbuntu moved to help.u.c 06:21 lloydinho wow. thanks nixternal . 06:21 mako Kamion: right, that's what i'm thinking 06:21 nixternal lets not forget /mystory either 06:21 Kamion mm, what's the story on mystory? 06:21 Kamion first I'd heard of that, wondering who's behind that address 06:21 mako lloydinho: it might be nice to think about what we can do what the participate page 06:21 lloydinho it's one of the marketing projects.. 06:22 nixternal plus he has his cool specs from the Paris Summit as well with anthro that was cool 06:22 mako lloydinho: maybe it should get smaller with just links to various sections in the new page 06:22 lloydinho mako, we have discussed various ways of doing the participate page. 06:22 mako lloydinho: cool :) === guilhermee [n=guilherm@20151079020.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:22 lloydinho Working with Corey, I also redid the HelpingUbuntu wiki page 06:23 Kamion anyway; +1 for contribute page, testimonial from docteam, and it seems like a good thing to bring anthropologists into the communities they're studying on general principles :) 06:23 mako lloydinho: cool, i'd love to see something happen with it.. let me know and i'm happy to help you with www 06:23 lloydinho We couldn't really decide whether it would be best to have a short or extended version. === mako nods to Kamion 06:23 mako i'm happy to have you on board and i'm thrilled that you haven't done the whole detached outsider thing 06:23 lloydinho Kamion, :-) 06:23 lloydinho mako, that would have been boring :-) 06:23 Kamion HelpingUbuntu seems substantially duplicated from ContributeToUbuntu 06:23 elmo ack 06:23 GnuKemist congrats lloydinho 06:23 nixternal sweet!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! lloydinho ;) 06:24 mako of course, you find that making meaningful contributions makes it alot easier to have the community open up to you :) 06:24 carthik congrats lloydinho 06:24 lloydinho mako, that's what I've found, certainly. 06:24 Kamion although it wasn't lloydinho's, I like the idea of EasyWaysToHelpUbuntu 06:24 Seveas lloydinho, word! 06:24 AndreNoel congrats lloydinho 06:24 lloydinho thanks all! 06:24 Kamion oh, who's driving launchpad today? 06:24 ubuntu_demon Congrats lloydinho 06:24 mako moving on.. Vidya Ayer 06:24 Kamion oh yeah, mdke sent a testimonial for lloydinho too 06:24 svaksha Hi All 06:24 AlexRocha lloydinho Congrats! :D 06:24 svaksha I am Vidya Ayer from India. My wiki page is, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Svaksha 06:25 Kamion for the record: 06:25 Kamion "Has contributed extremely well to the documentation team with ideas and also quite a lot of action. Again he is great to work with because of a really positive and constructive attitude. I've also seen him contribute positively to the marketing team, again providing concrete and constructive contributions." === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.200.8] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Run] 06:25 elmo I'll do launchpad 06:25 gnomefreak Kamion: i dont think LP has updated in the past few days (not sure if its everything on LP) === svaksha waits for go ahead 06:25 Kamion mdke says of svaksha: 06:25 CypherBIOS lloydinho: congrats... and thanks for your great work on documentation 06:25 Kamion "very good to work with, have come across her contributions to ubuntu-women and translation. She has recently joined the fridge team and will be an asset for us." 06:25 Kamion gnomefreak: I mean membership approvals 06:25 gnomefreak oh 06:25 mako svaksha: go ahead 06:25 svaksha Currently admin 2 lists at Linuxchix, co-wrote a Sanskrit locale with Christian Perrier (Debian) and editor at DMOZ. Having used all releases since Warty, I lurked awhile in Q1'05 and later joined the Bugsquad [https://launchpad.net/people/svaksha/+karma] , Ubuntu-Women, Marketing, Fridge, and translation teams. 06:25 svaksha Ubuntu-Women is doing well with many women (and men) contributing in the community, upstream and relevant Foss arenas. Have contributed articles to Fridge nd UWN. Plan to keep the Fridge cool and well stocked with community news, events, advocacy, articles, and other sound bytes flowing in, and think it would also be advantageous to synchronise news with grass-roots marketing in the Ubuntu community. 06:26 svaksha Time-permitting, hope to pitch in with tasks useful to the Motu's - packaging, testing, other technical details about Ubuntu, its relation with Debian and how they work in tandem. Have never missed an opportunity to advocate and spread the Ubuntu cheer (CD's), Ubuntu books, and my Ubuntu converts' list is aplenty with most folks giving positive feedback (almost always :-)) during follow-ups. /End. 06:26 jono right, I have a meeting about the joys of CRM, later all 06:26 svaksha thanks mdke 06:26 Kamion svaksha's wiki page looks pretty solid to me, but I need to nip out for a moment before chasing up references; BRB 06:27 simira lloydinho: congrats 06:27 elmo lloydinho: you don't appear to be trying to be in ubuntu-members in launchpad? 06:28 nixternal heh, must have been caught up in the Ubuntu excitement ;) 06:29 mako svaksha: what is your current involvement with the IN loco? 06:30 svaksha not involved currently 06:30 mako is there a particular reason? 06:30 svaksha currently , time constraints 06:30 lloydinho elmo, I just added myself this moment 06:30 mako i'm just kind of curious because it sounds like you had a hand setting it up 06:31 Kamion back 06:31 mako lloydinho: approved 06:31 svaksha yes, but its being run equally well by others === mako nods to svaksha 06:31 mako that's a good reason :) 06:32 licio :) 06:33 elmo ack for svaksha from me 06:33 mako alright, i'm happy with svaksha as well 06:33 svaksha thanks mako, elmo === gora [n=gora@125.23.62.109] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Au] === nixternal pokes svaksha, tell them about the fridge ;) 06:34 Kamion yup, been following up references, and +1 from me - looks pretty impressive 06:34 mako is Alberto Milone around? 06:34 tseliot here I am 06:34 svaksha i did nixternal 06:34 carthik congrats svaksha 06:34 tseliot can I begin? 06:34 mako tseliot: ah, you're alberto milone 06:34 AndreNoel congrats svaksha 06:34 mako tseliot: yes, go ahead 06:34 GnuKemist congrats svaksha 06:34 svaksha thanks all 06:34 tseliot My name is Alberto Milone and here is my profile on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/people/albertomilone 06:34 tseliot My profile on the Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tseliot 06:34 tseliot My Experience and Involvement with Ubuntu 06:34 tseliot I have used Ubuntu since April 2005 when I tried it, loved it, left Windows and never looked back. One of the reasons for which I like Ubuntu is its forum, where I learnt most of the things that I know (thanks to all the people who were so kind to help me). I decided to pay back all the people who helped me by helping new (unexperienced) users, which all my guides 06:35 tseliot are thought for. As a matter of fact I try explaining as many things as possible when I write my guides so that anyone can follow them, even when dealing with topics such as the recompilation of the kernel. 06:35 tseliot Then I joined the Archival team on ubuntuforums.org and therefore worked on the documentation on the UDSF. 06:35 tseliot I have recently become a Moderator on the Ubuntu Forums (ubuntuforums.org) 06:35 tseliot Here is my profile on ubuntuforums.org: 06:35 tseliot http://www.ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=19388 06:35 tseliot I am particularly interested in writing guides and providing support for the installation of Nvidia's proprietary drivers and for the resolution of problems with the Xserver in general (but not only). 06:35 mako svaksha: did you try to joint he members team? 06:35 tseliot A partial list of the guides I wrote can be found here: 06:35 tseliot http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/guides.html 06:35 tseliot OR in my profile on the Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tseliot 06:36 ubuntu_demon tseliot has been very valuable to the forum staff. He's also helping a lot of people with video issues. 06:36 tseliot My Projects: 06:36 tseliot 1) My Envy script 06:36 tseliot Users very often need the latest Nvidia driver (which is usually available as an installer and not as a deb package). Being aware of all the lenght (and difficulty) of the procedures which installing the Nvidia driver from the installer implies I decided to make the process a bit easier for beginners (in addition to my guide about it). 06:36 svaksha mako: no , will apply tomorrow 06:36 tseliot I started a new project, which I named Envy (the Italian for Envy is "invidia"). It is a script (written in Python and packaged as a .deb file) which automates the installation of the latest Nvidia proprietary driver on Ubuntu (both Breezy and Dapper are supported). It installs all the packages needed to compile the driver and removes the restricted modules. It also offers the possibility to automatically configure the Xserve 06:36 tseliot You can find it on my homepage: 06:36 tseliot http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html 06:36 tseliot and on launchpad: 06:36 tseliot https://launchpad.net/projects/envy === svaksha is not well today 06:36 tseliot 2) Promoting Edubuntu at the University of Lecce (Italy) 06:36 tseliot Another project of mine is that of promoting Edubuntu at the University of Lecce. According to my plans part of my thesis (for my 2nd level degree) will be about Edubuntu and the study (and teaching) of foreign languages. 06:36 tseliot My Suggestions for improving Ubuntu: 06:36 tseliot I have proposed the following spec for Edgy Eft: 06:36 tseliot On Launchpad: 06:36 tseliot https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/xserver-failover 06:36 tseliot A detailed explanation on the Wiki: 06:36 tseliot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XserverFailover 06:36 tseliot I have also asked the opinion of the members of Ubuntuforums.org: 06:36 tseliot http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201128 06:37 matthew5 and he was incredibly helpful today with confused users trying to figure out what happened when they updated X and it broke...tseliot posted a great and simple way to downgrade until the fix began populating te repos 06:37 mako tseliot: alright, that's a bit more than a three line introduction === nixternal has never chatted with tseliot, and really don't know him...but his "howtos" in the ubuntu forums are excellent to say the least! i use them quite a bit...also applied some of his howto's to various wiki docs as well concerning binary drivers 06:37 mako :) 06:37 matthew5 on the forums 06:37 GnuKemist svaksha sorry to hear that... congrats and get some rest ;) 06:37 tseliot Sorry mako 06:37 tseliot it's my character 06:37 tseliot ;) 06:37 Kamion tseliot: from the sound of things, envy will break on any system upgrade, if it relies on having the restricted modules removed 06:37 ubuntu_demon +1 for tseliot 06:38 svaksha :) 06:38 tseliot Kamion: yes 06:38 Kamion we are normally happy to incorporate new versions of the nvidia module into dapper-updates if asked 06:38 Kamion infinity is the contact person for that 06:38 tseliot really? 06:38 tseliot I would be glad to help 06:38 tseliot I didn't know that drivers could be updated 06:39 tseliot where can I find infinity? 06:39 tseliot on launchpad? 06:39 Kamion it depends on the changes, but if they're targeted bug fixes, then it's possible 06:39 Kamion adconrad on launchpad, infinity ere on IRC 06:39 Kamion here 06:39 tseliot well, the new drivers add the support for new cards 06:39 Seveas tseliot, we should join forces -- I do a similar thing for ati === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 06:40 tseliot sure 06:40 frodon i confirm that tseliot is one the great support provider on ubuntuforums, he helps a lot of users each day and contributes to the UDSF project 06:40 tseliot I was thinking of plugging in an ATI card too tonight 06:40 frodon he's one of the great guys of the forum === mr3vil [n=mr-evil@p50815F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:40 tseliot I'm really interested in this project 06:41 Kamion talk to rodarvus about the xserver-failover stuff 06:41 mako tseliot: there are other ways of providing updated drivers in packages that will allow for upgrades === bit_doidao [n=duda@unaffiliated/bitdoidao/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:41 Kamion we already offer the safe-mode thing in gfxboot for the live CD, but it's not ideal 06:41 rodarvus I just noticed the spec and subscribed to it 06:41 tseliot mako:I didn't know that 06:41 rodarvus tseliot, Kamion: thanks 06:41 Kamion having X do it itself would be better - we didn't have time before dapper though 06:41 tseliot Kamion: but the failover should work on the installed ubuntu as well 06:42 Kamion tseliot: indeed - as I say doing it in the bootloader is obviously not ideal 06:42 ubuntu_demon tseliot helps lots of users on the forums and he's really valuable to the forum staff. So +1 ;) 06:42 mako tseliot: even if folks have to build their own drivers, they can build them as package 06:42 tseliot mako: this is true for ati drivers 06:43 tseliot mako: is it true for the nvidia driver as well? 06:43 tseliot and without recompiling all the restricted modules? 06:43 Seveas (maybe we're diverging a bit too far from the purpose of this meeting...) 06:44 tseliot and without removing nvidia kernel common which would cause a driver mismatch? 06:44 mako tseliot: yes, we, or others, can talk afterward 06:44 tseliot Sorry Seveas 06:44 tseliot Ok 06:44 mako tseliot: basically, while i suspect that there are better ways of doing some of those particular things 06:45 mako i'm happy to approve you just on support and forums activity alone 06:45 tseliot Thanks :-D 06:45 ubuntu_demon mako : great 06:45 mako i think i've seen you post in basically every thread i've ever gone to in the forums :) 06:45 elmo yeah, ack 06:45 tseliot mako: LOL 06:45 GnuKemist congrats tseliot === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:46 Kamion with regard to the kernel compilation guide, /usr/src/linux is explicitly disrecommended by Linus these days - I'd suggest just using the user's home directory 06:46 tseliot thanks === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.48] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 06:46 AndreNoel congrats tseliot 06:46 tseliot Kamion: I know we should use fakeroot 06:46 tseliot I'll change that 06:46 tseliot AndreNoel: thanks 06:46 Kamion anyway, yeah, I'm with mako on this - I do think you should be more forthright about contacting developers with problems rather than working around them sometimes, but what you've done seems pretty good 06:46 Kamion so I'm happy for membership 06:47 elmo excuse me, I have to go and be human pack horse, brb 06:47 Kamion well, as well as working around them, depending :) 06:47 tseliot Kamion: I'd be glad to work with them 06:47 frodon congrats tseliot 06:47 tseliot instead of working around them 06:47 tseliot frodon: thanks :-) 06:47 matthew5 congrats, tseliot 06:47 ubuntu_demon tseliot: congrats :) 06:47 tseliot matthew5: thanks and good luck 06:48 mako tseliot: yeah, the general takeaway is that you should probably contact the maintainer responsible for every issue you've written scripts to work around because in some situations you'll find that there's an easier solution and in others you'll find that it's a bug or something that can be fixed in the package itself :) 06:48 tseliot ubuntu_demon: thanks. 06:48 tseliot mako: ok, I'll do that 06:48 mako AndreNoel: you are up 06:48 tseliot I just didn't dare bothering them 06:48 AndreNoel alright 06:48 AndreNoel My name is Andre Noel, born and living in Brazil. Graduated from Maringa State University in Computer Science in 2005. Married since 2005. 06:48 AndreNoel Been involved with Open Source since 2002, and more especifically with the Brazilian community since May 2006, thanks to incentive from OgMaciel. Started as a translator for the Brazilian Team and recently being appointed as one of the administrators of the team. 06:49 AndreNoel I'm one of the administrators of Ubuntu Brazilian Portuguese Translators Team and I wanna help this team to grow in quantity an quality. To help in the use (and reuse) of rosetta, and in news improvements to it. 06:49 Kamion tseliot: we normally don't mind :-) 06:49 mako tseliot: the same people will get bug reports when upgrades fail :) 06:49 tseliot ok, got it ;) 06:49 mako tseliot: easier to deal with the issue up front :) 06:50 mako AndreNoel: why AndreNoel3? 06:50 AndreNoel i don't know 06:50 AndreNoel it was auto 06:50 AndreNoel it's my login on wiki 06:51 Kamion the auto-import-everybody-we've-heard-of thing did that sometimes === mako nods 06:51 CypherBIOS mako: it's the default sugestion of Launchpad for existent wiki 06:51 CypherBIOS I wold like say some words about AndreNoel; 06:52 CypherBIOS may I? 06:52 CypherBIOS He is a active member of Brazilian Community, one of majoritaries translators that is working very hard to make the Ubuntu 100% tranlated for Brazilian Portuguese, and making a excelent job. 06:53 AndreNoel tks CypherBIOS! 06:53 CypherBIOS Also, he works in the Brazilian Wiki <http://wiki.ubuntubrasil.org>, making some usefull pages and Faqs, with the Brazilian Documentation Team. 06:53 GnuKemist mako elmo Kamion AndreNoel has become a very important part for the administration of the brazilian team as well as the community as a whole. He is genuinely interested in bringing Ubuntu to the brazilian masses with a 100% translated system and has become extremelly active advocating Linux in his community. I completely stand behind his candidacy. 06:54 AndreNoel tks GnuKemist 06:54 CypherBIOS Your work (AndreNoel) extends to the mailling lists, where he help and guide much users and new translators 06:54 GnuKemist AndreNoel you deserve it my friend 06:55 AlexRocha I agree with what CypherBIOS and GnuKemist said 06:55 sfair as a member of Brasiliam Documentation Team +1 for opinions about AndreNoel 06:56 mako ok.. lots of translations 06:56 AndreNoel tks AlexRocha and sfair 06:56 mako i'm happy with membership based on translations testimonials 06:56 CypherBIOS AndreNoel: somebody forgot something? AndreNoel is a autor of Brazilian Ubuntu Planet 06:56 AndreNoel hehe 06:56 GnuKemist ;) 06:56 AndreNoel recently listed on topcontributors 06:57 AndreNoel https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+topcontributors 06:57 GnuKemist mako he goes beyond just performing translations, but also spends a lot of his time sharing his knowledge with volunteers 06:57 CypherBIOS yep, one of Top Contribuitors in Launchpad too 06:57 mako alright: Kamion, elmo ? 06:58 Kamion seems to be well above the level we normally require from translators 06:58 Kamion so +1 from me 06:58 AndreNoel :) 06:58 Kamion (and obviously coordination types are always welcome) 06:58 Kamion thanks for your attested work there 06:58 AndreNoel thank you 06:58 GnuKemist Kamion and he is really good at coordinating 06:59 bit_doidao mako and all, i confirm the good job of AndreNoel :) 06:59 AndreNoel tks bit 06:59 mako # 06:59 mako LorenzoVillani Arbiter 06:59 mako you're up 06:59 Arbiter it's me 06:59 Arbiter Hi i'm Lorenzo Villani and I use ubuntu since version 5.04. 06:59 Arbiter After trying Ubuntu I immediately loved it. Awesome community, awesome technical choices and clear development-model. 06:59 Arbiter I'm now helping by doing some packaging stuff, translation work and I help new users to get into the Ubuntu (and Linux) world. 06:59 Arbiter I'm also spreading the work about Ubuntu (and Linux in general) here in Florence. 06:59 Arbiter Packages i've made: colorscheme, agave, kdocker - working: libgimp-cil, debian-servicemenu, attach-to-email-servicemenu 06:59 Arbiter Translation work is listed at: https://launchpad.net/people/arbiter/+translations 06:59 Arbiter My future plans are to become firstly an Ubuntu Member (that's why I'm here ;-) ), then a MOTU and (why not?) a Core-Dev :) 06:59 Arbiter ...and improve kubuntu and make the PackageCandidates list shorter and become part of the Italian LoCo Team (currently waiting for approvation) :) 07:00 mako Arbiter: how long have you been working on packages? 07:00 GnuKemist mako, what is the outcome for AndreNoel? 07:01 Seveas GnuKemist, elmo isn't back yet so still 'pending' 07:01 GnuKemist Seveas gotcha 07:01 Arbiter two months as far as i remember 07:01 mako GnuKemist: waiting for elmo? 07:01 elmo sorry 07:01 mako Arbiter: that's the bare minimum of what i'd like to see for demonstration of a sustained contribution 07:02 mako Arbiter: for membership of course 07:02 elmo ack from me for AndreNoel 07:02 GnuKemist AndreNoel congrats!!! 07:02 Arbiter mako: my translation work is more than my packaging work 07:02 AndreNoel tks elmo 07:02 Gloubiboulga Arbiter has done a good job on packages, and I really appreciate the fact that he wants to reduce the PackageCandidates page :) 07:02 mako right 07:02 AlexRocha AndreNoel Congrats! :D 07:02 AndreNoel tks friends 07:02 tseliot Congrats 07:02 Arbiter i've started making packages a short time ago... 07:02 CypherBIOS AndreNoel: congrats my friend! === GnuKemist back to work 07:03 bit_doidao AndreNoel, very well! congrats! 07:04 Riddell Arbiter: what plans do you have to improve kubuntu? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === GnuKemist [n=omaciel@ubuntu/member/gnukemist] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === sfair [n=sfair@dma03.feg.unesp.br] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Aumentando] 07:04 bit_doidao CypherBIOS, good work on AptOnCd! im just leraning python with it :) 07:04 Arbiter Riddell: at first: there are a lots of packages in Kubuntu Candidates 07:04 Arbiter (for universe) === Gun_Smoke [n=daryl@c-68-85-72-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:05 Arbiter i want to make them and get them into universe as soon as possible 07:05 mako i'm not sure my personal threshold has been reached by the information linked to from the wiki alone 07:05 mako are there testimonials here for Arbiter 07:05 Riddell Arbiter: cool, give us a ping on #kubuntu-devel if there's stuff to be reviewed 07:05 Arbiter my plan is to become a kubuntu-member too 07:06 mako Arbiter: membership doesn't need to proceed major contributions 07:06 mako Arbiter: and in fact, shouldn't 07:06 mako it's the other way around 07:07 mako Arbiter: unless there are people we know here who will give testimonials, i think we should pass this week 07:07 Arbiter Gloubiboulga? === Kamion accepts kdocker into universe 07:08 mako Kamion: :) === bit_doidao is preparing some works and tutorials for candidate for membership. on the right time. :) 07:08 Kamion I guess one of your links just became out of date ;) 07:08 Arbiter Kamion: heh :D 07:09 mako Arbiter: want to wait until for hte next meeting or so? we've go to wrap up 07:09 Gloubiboulga Arbiter, yep, I wrote a few words already :) 07:09 mako i set this as a 1h meeting :) 07:09 Arbiter mako: Gloubiboulga is my only testimonial 07:09 mako which is now into its 68th meetiinute :) 07:09 Arbiter Hobbsee has gone to bed... so... 07:09 Kamion I don't really have a strong opinion - I think Arbiter's making pretty good progress === mako nods to Kamion 07:10 mako in fairness to others, i'd really like to see a couple testimonials from people who have worked with him, reviewed packages 07:11 Gloubiboulga mako, I did 07:11 mako Gloubiboulga: are you the only one? === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA3E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:11 Gloubiboulga mako, the only one present here I guess 07:11 Arbiter others were bddebian and sistpoty iirc 07:11 Arbiter plus Hobbsee === AndreNoe1 [n=noel@201.22.95.1.static.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:12 mako Gloubiboulga: i'm not ignoring you, i appreciate your comments :) 07:13 mako Arbiter: even emailed testimonials would be good 07:13 Gloubiboulga mako, his work on packages was really good, and het get 3 packages uploaded quite quickly 07:13 simira bddebian is online and active === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:14 Gloubiboulga hello bddebian :) 07:14 Arbiter :) 07:14 bddebian Howdy folks 07:16 mako bddebian: hi, we're talking about Arbiter's application for membership 07:16 mako i'd really like to touch on the other candidates 07:16 mako i am already 15 minutes for another appointment and want to give everyone a chance 07:17 mako can we move on for a second? 07:17 mako matthew5: can you go quickly? 07:17 Arbiter no problem for me 07:17 matthew5 I'll try 07:17 matthew5 Here's a short bil 07:17 matthew5 bio 07:17 bddebian Well he has been active on REVU 07:17 mako Arbiter: cool, thanks for being patient 07:17 matthew5 I am a writer by trade, currently working on a self-funded research project in Morocco looking at Moroccan Arabic humor and how it reveals culture. I have a degree from the University of Arizona in Education and Social Sciences and have never worked in a tech-related field. I have been a teacher, a language school administrator, and done a ton of other stuff as well. I'm 36, married with 3 kids. My Ubuntu experien 07:17 matthew5 ce began in April 2005 when I bought a linux magazine with a Hoary cd in it. I set up a dual boot with WinXP and found myself using Ubuntu about 95% of the time within a couple of weeks. 07:17 matthew5 I had lots of questions at the beginning and got help for all of them in the Ubuntu Forums. As time passed I noticed others asking similar questions or questions about things I had just figured out so I started answering them as a way to give back to the community. I was asked to be a part of the forum staff, and while I was honored I turned down the offer the first time as I didn't feel like I had learned enough 07:17 matthew5 to be really helpful. Time passed and I continued to try to help when and where I could feeling like I had received so much at no cost to myself I should give something back. I was asked again to join the staff and was convinced. That was in March 2006. The rest is in my wiki and launchpad pages. 07:18 matthew5 sorry, more than 3 lines... 07:18 tseliot Matthew is a very active member and a very diplomatic moderator of ubuntuforums.org. He manages to keep the tension low and avoid flamewars (a great gift indeed). He is a real peace maker ;) 07:19 matthew5 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Matthew5 07:19 ubuntu_demon matthew5: has been really valuable to the forum staff. He also helps a lot of users on the forums. +1 07:19 matthew5 https://launchpad.net/people/matthelmke 07:19 Kamion matthew5: in dapper you shouldn't need vga=771 any more, we hope 07:19 mako any other testimonials for matthew5? 07:19 matthew5 I don't. I should update that 07:19 Kamion (since we changed the default console resolution) 07:20 matthew5 I did for hoary and breezy, thoug 07:20 matthew5 though === givre [n=flo@APuteaux-152-1-58-155.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:20 tseliot frodon? 07:20 Kamion so the non-forums contributions are a bit light, but being invited to join staff clearly indicates you were being useful on the forums :) 07:21 matthew5 I freely admit the non-forums contribs are few 07:21 matthew5 I hope I've been a bit helpful on the forums, though 07:21 matthew5 I try 07:21 tseliot Kamion: he is an invaluable help on the forum === AndreNoe1 is now known as AndreNoel 07:22 ubuntu_demon I agree with tseliot 07:22 Kamion matthew5: yep, not a criticism, just a comment 07:22 matthew5 Kamion, that's how I took it :) === dudus [n=dudus@200.246.22.208] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:23 mako the forums contributions are impressive 07:23 mako you've got my support for membershi 07:23 matthew5 thank you 07:23 elmo yeah, ack 07:23 ubuntu_demon I gotta go 07:23 ubuntu_demon sorry guys 07:24 matthew5 elmo, thanks 07:24 mako alright then :) 07:24 tseliot ubuntu_demon: bye 07:24 bddebian mako: +1 for Arbiter from me. He has several packages sitting on review. I unfortunately have only had a chance to review a couple so far as we are behind on reviewing but seem to be well done. 07:25 mako NealBussett ? 07:25 Kamion +1 for matthew5, after following up on forums contributions 07:25 matthew5 Kamion, thank you 07:25 mako alright 07:25 mako Ahmad Muammar ''y3dips''? 07:27 mako alright then 07:27 mako that's the list 07:27 mako thanks folks for showing up.. 07:27 mako Arbiter: still around? 07:27 Arbiter yeah 07:27 Arbiter reading 07:27 Arbiter :) 07:28 Arbiter thanks bddebian && Gloubiboulga :) === tseliot [n=tseliot@host206-249.pool877.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Kopete] 07:29 mako Arbiter: personally, i'd feel better if we waited until the next meeting.. 07:29 Arbiter no problem :) 07:29 mako Arbiter: you've done lots of good work though, and i don't feel too strongly 07:30 mako Arbiter: so if there's a rush, we can do it now 07:30 mako Arbiter: cool then, lets put you first for the next meeting :) 07:30 mako Arbiter: and see if we can scare up a couple more testimonials 07:30 Arbiter heh :D 07:30 mako Arbiter: cool, see you next time :) 07:30 mako elmo, Kamion: and you two as well 07:31 Seveas mako, when will 'next time' be? 07:31 Arbiter see you too mako :) 07:31 mako two weeks from today? 07:31 elmo two weeks from today - time to be determined 07:31 Seveas can I suggest doing it a bit early === tseliot [n=tseliot@host206-249.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:31 mako earlier in the day? 07:31 Seveas yes 07:31 mako that's fine.. but if we go too much ealier, i won't be able to make it 07:31 mako like more than 4-5h 07:31 Seveas the past few meetings have been unfair to nz/au === josevitor [n=josevito@201.56.112.168] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:31 mako we can also go much later 07:31 elmo sabdfl won't be around 07:32 elmo so it'll need to be us 3 again 07:32 Arbiter can the CC be at the same hour of this one? :) 07:32 mako if sabdfl doesn't konw he can be there, we should plan it so that i can be there 07:32 elmo but anytime (up until about 1am UTC is fine by me) 07:32 gnomefreak what about 1800 utc? 07:32 elmo (and from about 5am UTC) 07:32 Seveas @now melbourne 07:32 Ubugtu Current time in Australia/Melbourne: August 23 2006, 03:32:53 - Current meeting: Community Council 07:32 mako Arbiter: we could even do 20UTC 07:32 mako or 21UTC === tseliot [n=tseliot@host206-249.pool877.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Kopete] 07:33 Kamion ditto elmo although I'd find 5am UTC pretty unpleasant 07:33 Seveas late utc would be early AU, might work as well 07:33 Kamion 1am is fine as long as it doesn't go on too long 07:33 mako ok. lets do 21UTC then 07:33 gnomefreak im trying to think when the kubuntu meetings are i know they are right around 4pm est === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 07:33 mako or even 22UTC 07:33 Seveas 22UTC would be 8am 07:33 Seveas might be better than 21 ;) 07:33 mako that sounds reasonable 07:34 Kamion ok 07:34 mako ok, 22UTC two weeks from today === Seveas will edit the wikipage === Gun_Smoke [n=daryl@c-68-85-72-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 07:34 mako Seveas: going to remove approved candidates? 07:34 gnomefreak the 5th at 22utc? 07:34 Seveas move to 'approved' ;) 07:34 elmo oh, talking of candidates 07:34 Riddell gnomefreak: 21UTC usually 07:34 elmo we should probably trim the LP list 07:35 elmo and just remove anyone who's been on there > 2 months 07:35 elmo does that sound reasonable? 07:35 Seveas it does to me 07:35 gnomefreak Riddell: yeah and hobbsee complains its too early ;) lol 07:35 Kamion yes 07:35 Kamion they can always reapply 07:36 elmo ok 07:37 Arbiter mako: i don't need to paste my intro next time, right? :D 07:38 gnomefreak why not get the people to back you by emailing one of the CC 07:39 Kamion I'd prefer that just be a fallback option in case people can't make it to the meeting - it gets hard to track otherwise 07:39 Kamion though I don't mind it if people can't make it 07:40 mako gnomefreak: they can email community-council 07:40 mako then it goes to everyone
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