CC_2006-02-07
01:00 OgMaciel morning all
01:00 jsgotangco hallo hallo
01:00 Kamion the last mail I have indicates that Mark wanted to do
this CC meeting at 2200 UTC yesterday
01:00 OgMaciel jsgotangco, =)
01:00 Kamion but we obviously never actually set that officially -
and I was sick yesterday anyway
01:01 Kamion sabdfl is mid-flight at the moment
01:01 jsgotangco ahh
01:01 OgMaciel not much going on today as per the agenda, huh?
01:01 jsgotangco too bad
01:01 Kamion I'll SMS mako on the off-chance
01:01 raphink hi there
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01:02 jsgotangco we have a light agenda anyways
01:02 mhz hi all
01:02 OgMaciel mhz, hey
01:02 mhz hi OgMaciel
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01:04 jsgotangco ohh
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01:05 Kamion SMSed mako and elmo, can't do much more unless/until
both of them arrive unfortunately
01:05 jsgotangco yeah
01:05 Kamion if they don't appear, we'll try to organise something
to get through some member candidates
01:05 mhz jsgotangco: is it me or time for meetings was going to
rotate
01:05 jsgotangco mhz, docteam? it should rotate
01:05 jsgotangco CC rotates too
01:06 Seveas mhz, it is rotating for CC
01:06 Kamion last meeting certainly wasn't 1200
01:06 mhz oh, I missed lastone
01:06 OgMaciel Seveas, sup bud? ;)
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01:06 mhz ;)
01:06 jsgotangco yeah 1200 is strange for CC
01:06 jsgotangco its usually later
01:06 Seveas it's the first one at 12:00 afaik
01:06 mhz 12 UTC is 09:00 in chile
01:07 mhz i like 12 utc :D
01:07 jsgotangco too early for most
01:07 Kamion mako suggested the 1200 time, we figured if he didn't
mind it was OK by the rest of us
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01:07 jsgotangco ok
01:07 jsgotangco 1 more
01:07 highvoltage hi atie
01:07 Seveas 2 down, 1 to go :)
01:07 Seveas welcome elmo
01:07 mhz hehehe
01:07 Kamion elmo: I'm not entirely convinced mako's going to show
up
01:08 jsgotangco i think its only 6am on this side
01:08 jsgotangco or earlier
01:08 Kamion elmo: the e-mail thread we had actually scheduled this
meeting for 2200 last night
01:08 elmo Kamion: woops
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01:08 Kamion but I was out of it then and wouldn't have noticed even
if I had remembered
01:08 elmo have we phoned him yet and/or tried mark?
01:08 Kamion I've SMSed mako; mark's in-flight
01:08 Kamion (the latter's why we rescheduled)
01:10 Kamion I'll try phoning
01:11 Kamion voicemail
01:11 Seveas which TZ is boston in?
01:11 Kamion -5
01:11 Seveas so 7am
01:11 atie yes 7am there
01:12 mhz .oO(oh, european seem to wake up earlier?)
01:12 jsgotangco of course
01:13 Kamion so, who is here out of the new member candidates?
01:13 atie me
01:13 Kinnison me
01:13 dous me too
01:13 Gloubiboulga me
01:13 Kamion Patrick Davies?
01:13 Riddell jpatrick is (he's gone for 10 mins though)
01:14 jsgotangco Kinnison, you? =)
01:14 Kinnison jsgotangco: Pardon?
01:14 Seveas Gloubiboulga, -> Gauvain?
=== Kinnison needs to write his blurb
01:14 Gloubiboulga Seveas, yes
01:14 jsgotangco ok
01:14 Keybuk Kinnison: you're not paying attention, AND NOW YOU GO
HUNGRY!
01:14 raphink :)
01:14 Kinnison Keybuk: sorry, was busy with launchpad, blame kamion
01:15 Kamion ok, I guess we can at least go through people and then
collect acks from mako/sabdfl later on
01:15 Seveas sounds like a plan
01:15 Kamion APPROVALS AT THIS MEETING DO NOT CONSTITUTE ACTUAL
APPROVAL FOR UBUNTUMEMBERS
01:15 Kamion thank you :)
01:15 jsgotangco cool
01:15 raphink oh!
01:15 Kamion (since people have got confused in the past)
01:15 raphink Kamion: how come?
01:15 Kamion raphink: inquorate
01:15 Seveas BUT ARE A GOOD INDICATION THAT YOU WILL BE ACCEPTED
01:15 Seveas OR NOT
01:16 jsgotangco but 2 votes are shoo-in?
01:16 raphink I CAN'T HEAR PLEASE SPEAK LOUDER
01:16 Kamion jsgotangco: 3 required
01:16 raphink ok
01:16 jsgotangco right
01:16 Seveas ok, let's start calling names
=== Seveas -eq Dennis Kaarsemaker
=== raphink is Raphal Pinson
=== Gloubiboulga is Gauvain Pocentek
01:16 raphink hi Seveas btw, nice to see you around :)
=== ogra is OliverGrawert (here to cheer up for Kinnison today :) )
=== hunger is Tobias Hunger.
=== mhz is MauricioHernandez Z.
=== Riddell Jonathan Riddell
=== jsgotangco is Jerome Gotangco
=== Tonio_ is Anthony Mercatante
=== dous is Aldous Penaranda
=== Kinnison is Daniel Silverstone
=== sivang is Sivan Greenberg (cheering up Kinnison as well )
=== irvin is Irvin Piraman
01:18 Seveas veryy well, a bit quiet today but that shouldn't hurt
01:18 jsgotangco CC lite :)
01:18 sivang quite ? :)
01:18 Kamion I'll assume jpatrick isn't back yet and go straight to
dous
01:18 Seveas given that jpatrick is away, dous: you're up. Please
give us your 3-liner
01:18 mhz jsgotangco: LOL
I'm a 21 year-old system administrator from the
Philippines. I've been using GNU/Linux since around
01:18 dous 2002 and tried several distributions before settling on
Debian and Ubuntu last year. I first tried Ubuntu
during the Warty release.
It was only last year that I learned about #ubuntu-ph
and started to help out with doing some translation
01:19 dous work and advocacy/support. Before that, I was already
interested in doing packaging/maintenance for Java
packages in Debian.
My current work and plans include Tagalog translation
01:19 dous and helping out on Java packages and motujava work.
Then, once things get settled at my new work, I'll
start contributing more on server-related matters.
01:19 dous :)
01:19 Seveas More people from the philippines - BusinessTour effect
or is jsgotangco spamming heavily?
=== highvoltage is Jonathan Carter, alhtough just partially here
01:19 jsgotangco lol
01:19 jsgotangco nah he's been with us from the start
dous: your translation activity seems to have fallen
01:19 Kamion off this year; are you still interested in keeping that
up?
01:19 jsgotangco doing some translations lately
01:20 dous Kamion, yes. It's just that I moved to a new job this
january
01:20 dous Kamion, I don't have broadband at home so I usually do
foss work during free time at work
01:20 Kamion ok, fair enough
01:20 Kamion you mention you've been helping with support tickets
01:20 dous jsgotangco, :)
the support system's fairly new and has never actually
01:21 Kamion been announced :) what's your impression of the
situation there?
well, when I have free time I just look at the list of
01:22 dous requests and try to comment on anything that I have
knowledge about
01:22 Seveas so just like one would do on a mailing list
01:22 Kamion my question is really whether the list of requests is
getting out of control or not
01:22 dous some submitters seems to lose track of their requests
though
01:23 jsgotangco but they're subcribed to it from the start
01:23 Kamion what do the other Philippines folks think of dous'
advocacy activity?
01:23 dous they don't come back to comment on answers to their
requests sometimes
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01:23 dous so I can't confirm if my answers have solved their
problem
01:23 Kamion that much is inevitable, I think
01:23 Seveas dous, that's the same in any bugtracker, people lose
interest
01:24 jsgotangco pretty good although i would love more Rosetta love
01:24 raphink :)
01:24 jsgotangco it doesn't take that much to translate 10 lines a day
:)
=== raphink <3 Rosetta :)
01:24 Seveas "10 lines a day keeps the evil jsgotangco away"
01:24 raphink lol
01:24 jsgotangco but its more into our local setup
01:24 irvin ack for dous
01:24 Seveas that should be the translator motto ;)
01:25 dous Kamion, more volunteers would be much appreciated. it's
not out of control yet, imho.. :)
01:25 Kamion ok, well I'm happy to see somebody doing Java bug
gardening too
01:25 Kamion elmo?
01:25 Seveas Launchpad activity so far is limited to nov-23 to
dec-23
01:25 Seveas which is only one month
01:25 irvin jsgotangco will setting be tighter control on
translations
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01:25 Kamion Seveas: you misunderstand the karma listing
01:25 Kamion Seveas: it doesn't go back forever
01:25 Seveas right
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01:25 elmo ack
01:26 dous Seveas, yeah.. but it's harder to make improvements
with little feedback :(
01:26 jpatrick Kamion: I'm back sorrt
for instance according to
01:26 Kamion https://launchpad.net/people/kamion/+karma I've only
been active since 2006-01-27 :-P
01:26 Seveas Kamion, that sounds pretty accurate :p
01:26 dous hehe
01:26 Seveas anyway, both present CC members ack'ed so it's up to
mako/mark now
=== mhz whishes launchpad could record wiki+irc collaboration time
01:27 jsgotangco irc hah
01:27 Seveas thanks for coming dous, we'll let you know what the
final 'judgement' is :)
01:27 dous Seveas, thanks a lot! :)
01:27 mhz (and talks)
01:27 raphink Kamion: you could be more active then :p hehe
01:27 Seveas jpatrick, you're up for the 3-liner
01:27 Kamion wait
01:28 dous mhz, that would be cool.. 8-)
01:28 Kamion Kinnison has to leave at 1300; I'd like to bring him
forward
01:28 Seveas ok
01:28 ogra ++
01:28 Kamion Kinnison: ?
Hi, I am Daniel Silverstone, 25 yrs old, UK based, and
I have been working on Launchpad for the past 14 months
(in particular I am primarily responsible for the Soyuz
01:28 Kinnison backend) and have in my spare time done various things
for Ubuntu, centred primarily around Toshiba laptop
support. I have also been a Debian developer for about
five years now.
In particular I have written the new toshiba_acpi
kernel module support for punting the hotkeys into the
01:28 Kinnison ACPI subsystem, support for this in fnfxd and
acpi-support. I was also the Debian maintainer of lua50
and lua40 for quite a while and a Debian ftpmaster for
some time.
I intend to work on general bug fixing as part of the
01:28 Kinnison ubuntu core development team during the dapper
timeframe and then more generally on laptop support for
toshibas and various general laptop related work.
01:28 jsgotangco go toshiba
01:28 ogra cheer cheer cheer !
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01:29 Kamion Kinnison: do you expect you'll be getting some of the
laptop stuff done pre-dapper?
Kamion: yes, I have been fixing bugs in
01:29 Kinnison gnome-power-manager since I first installed dapper last
night :-)
01:29 Kamion heh
=== jsgotangco toshiba needs serious work
01:29 Kamion so does g-p-m
01:29 jsgotangco "my"
01:30 ogra Kamion, his fix will be in todays g-p-m upload :)
01:30 Mithrandir I think we should approve Kinnison since he's so
cuddly. :-)
01:30 ogra Mithrandir++
01:30 jsgotangco :)
01:30 raphink :)
01:30 Tonio_ ;)
full disclosure, Kinnison's a Canonical employee, we
01:30 Kamion all know him, and basically he's been doing lots of
useful stuff forever. any objections?
01:30 Kamion (kthxbye)
01:30 Seveas none at all
01:31 ogra :)
01:31 raphink it's just quite logical forhim to be ine
01:31 raphink in
=== irvin was surprised he added himself
01:31 irvin :)
01:31 Kamion I suppose it remains to be seen whether Soyuz is a
positive contribution to Ubuntu ;-)
01:31 sivang go Kinnison !
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01:31 raphink irvin: yeah
01:31 Tonio_ raphink++
01:31 ogra Kamion, *giggle*
01:31 Seveas Kamion, bwahaha :)
01:31 jsgotangco +1 for the cuddliness?
01:31 Kamion irvin: he's moving to the Canonical distro team for a
while, it's part of the job
01:32 sivang +2 for cuddliness
01:32 Kamion elmo: ?
01:32 ogra jsgotangco, nah, more than +10 :)
01:32 jsgotangco not to mention mao master
01:32 sivang indeed
01:32 elmo ack
01:33 Seveas cool beans
01:33 Kamion jpatrick: you're up
01:33 Kinnison thanks guys
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01:33 ogra congrats
01:33 Kinnison urgh
01:33 sivang Kinnison: welcome aboard :-)
01:33 jsgotangco oh well
01:33 Seveas Kinnison, have fun :)
01:33 Seveas sivang, not yet :)
01:33 Kinnison sivang: well, pending mako/sabdfl
01:33 Kamion sivang: point of order, not without a third vote
01:33 raphink welcome to the team Kinnison
01:33 Kamion (END of point of order.)
01:33 raphink oh yes right
01:33 raphink sorry ;)
01:33 sivang Kamion: heh, noted :)
01:33 Seveas jpatrick, ?
I am Jonathan Patrick Davies. Currently living in
Girona, Catalonia, Spain - although I am originally
01:33 jpatrick from London (UK). Been using Linux since around
Kubuntu's first release. And I'm a member of the
Kubuntu Team
01:33 raphink almost welcome to the team Kinnison
01:34 mhz Kinnison: welcome!!!!
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01:34 jpatrick I make KDE packages and help out on the forums and am
am admin of kubuntu-es.org
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01:34 ogra jpatrick, is quite busy in -motu with this strange
desktop stuff starting with the K :)
01:34 raphink jpatrick packages quite a lot, we see good packages
from him on REVU
01:35 jpatrick I also do some translations at Rosetta
01:35 raphink he's quite an active kubuntu dev for sure :)
01:35 Seveas jpatrick, you say you repackaged yakuake? Why - doesn't
it create an unneccessary diff with Debian?
01:35 ogra i bet Riddell might also want to speak up for him
01:35 Tonio_ yep, very active on REVU
01:35 jpatrick Seveas: Mez took over take
01:35 Riddell jpatrick helps out in numberous ways, I fully support
his membership
01:35 jpatrick that*
01:35 raphink :)
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01:35 Seveas woah - translator karma of doom
01:35 Riddell Seveas: it was packaged in kubuntu long before debian
did it
01:35 zakame hi all
01:36 Kamion urgh, looks like repackaging to add a patch system
01:36 Kamion fair enough in this specific case from the sound of it,
but in general do try to avoid that
01:36 jsgotangco 2318 karma nice
01:36 mhz zakame: hi.. so far, 1 candidate 'under consideration',
1 new memeber, evaluating jpatrick
01:37 zakame heya mhz :) thanks for updating
that's a hell of a lot of karma for en_GB - I didn't
01:37 Kamion think that many translations that were actually
distinct from the original could be fitted in ;)
01:37 elmo Kamion: if we did it first, I think it's hard for
people to complain about our use of patch systems
01:37 Kamion elmo: as I say, fair enough in this specific case
01:37 jpatrick Kamion: I still have to start ca and es but I'm waiting
for the K apps
01:38 elmo jpatrick: K apps?
01:38 jpatrick KDE
01:38 elmo sure, but what are you waiting for?
Sevea: the diff with debian is becuse jpatrcik created
01:38 Mez yakuake package first - debian dev decided to do it
differently
01:38 Riddell KDE still isn't in rosetta (will be when dapper gets
imported)
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01:39 elmo ah, I see
01:39 elmo Riddell: how come?
01:39 elmo Riddell: and when is dapper due to be imported?
elmo: the .pot files were not generated in the breezy
01:39 Riddell packages, we had to sort out that gettext-kde
issue. dapper will be imported at string freeze I
think
01:39 ogra for the time being you could translate kino to feel
more at home even if its a gtk app :)
01:40 elmo oh, right, gettext-kde, *gag*
01:40 raphink hehe
01:40 Seveas well, jpatrick gets a ++ from me, contributions look
s&s
01:40 Riddell (you'll be pleased to know that KDE 4 has now been
changed to current GNU gettext)
01:40 Kamion Riddell: (hooray)
01:40 raphink ++ for jpatrick :)
01:41 hunger yeah, jpatrick did lots of debs I am using. If I may
vote I'll ++ for jpatrick.
01:41 raphink Riddell: which means we won't need kde pot dirty
patches in kde 4 :)
01:41 Kamion as usual, voting is restricted to CC members
01:41 jsgotangco awesome karma too
01:41 ogra but you can cheer ;)
=== hunger shuts up then.
01:41 Seveas Kamion, it was a cheer, not a vote
=== raphink just cheers
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01:41 Kamion anyway, I'm happy with jpatrick's contributions so far
01:42 elmo how do I see the specific translations a person's done
in launchpad, or can I stil lnot?
01:42 elmo yeah, ack from me too
=== Mez is surprised he isnt already a member.
01:42 Kamion (Kubuntu-wise anyway, I have no idea about the en_GB
stuff yet)
01:42 jpatrick Mez: I missed the early meetings :(
01:42 jpatrick elmo:
https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick/+translations ?
01:42 Mez jpatricks done quire a bit en_GB stuff I believe (lol -
though I havent for a while - and i run that team!)
01:43 Seveas jpatrick, that does not list the individual
translations
01:43 Seveas anyway, 2 acks from the CC is all we'll get for now
01:43 jpatrick ah right
01:43 Seveas jpatrick, thanks for coming!
01:43 jpatrick no problem :)
01:44 Seveas Gloubiboulga is next
I'm Gauvain Pocentek, a 26 years old french music
student. I'm an (x)ubuntu user since the warty release.
I've spent a lot of time on irc and forums helping
users during the last months, trying to make their
01:44 Gloubiboulga Ubuntu life easier. I have also worked on more
technical stuff, like packaging, bugs reports/patches
and a few merges/syncs. I have now a little experience
in packaging, and try to help new packagers, with some
comments on REVU (which make
01:44 Gloubiboulga s me improve my packaging skill too).
For the future, I really want to keep helping user,
because the quality of the Ubuntu community is
01:44 Gloubiboulga certainly a huge advantage for Ubuntu (and of course
its technical quality, but everyone here is concerned
by this). I also plan to keep helping with bugs stuff,
merges for dapper+1, packaging...
I also really think about french translations of some
01:44 Gloubiboulga wiki.u.c pages about how to help Ubuntu, because we
don't have a lot of doc about this on French web pages.
Gloubiboulga is very active on REVU and in the MOTU
01:44 raphink world in general, as well as in #ubuntu-fr. He has
begun to send me reviews for REVU lately, and I've been
happy to sponsor since they are of very good quality.
01:45 raphink I would be veyr happy with his membership :)
01:45 jsgotangco music interesting..i've seen a music project in the
forums too
01:46 Tonio_ raphink++, nothing more to say to me ;)
01:46 Kamion nice to see lilypond is still alive; what's the state
of development there?
01:46 raphink Gloubiboulga is an emacs music hacker ;)
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01:46 Gloubiboulga version 2.7.32 is out, with a lot of improvments :)
01:47 Gloubiboulga I'm currently working of the docs' translation
01:47 Kamion (from the point of view of somebody who last looked at
it in about 2002)
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01:47 mhz .oO(ig Gloubiboulga is a mac user then that's an
incredible contribution already :D )
01:47 Gloubiboulga Kamion, 2002 is far far away :)
01:47 Seveas any other MOTU to vouch for packaging work?
01:47 raphink Kamion: lilypong has changed a lot since. It now
integrates in LaTeX fully iirc
01:47 mhz .oO(ig Gloubiboulga is an emac user then that's an
incredible contribution already :D )
01:47 zakame raphink: emacs!
01:47 Gloubiboulga mhz, :)
01:48 raphink zakame: pico!
01:48 zakame Gloubiboulga: anything with emacs gets my nod ;)
01:48 jsgotangco bah
01:48 zakame Seveas: I've seen Gloubiboulga do good work, I'd love
to have him aboard :)
01:49 Seveas hmm, siretart, poke
01:49 Seveas could you make something in REVU so it is easy to see
someones contribution there?
01:50 raphink Seveas: you can read the motu-reviewers ML to see
contributions
01:50 raphink ;)
01:50 elmo ack from me
01:50 elmo (brb)
01:50 Seveas raphink, during CC meetings, when we want to check such
things, it is nice to have an overview
01:50 raphink grep for gauvain in the ML you'll see ;)
01:50 Seveas just like launchpad/wiki
01:50 raphink sure Seveas
01:51 zakame raphink++
01:51 Seveas Gloubiboulga's contribution so far looks well, I give
him a \o/ (that's a cheer)
01:51 Kamion Gauvain has several mentions on dapper-changes so far,
which makes me happy
01:51 raphink oh nice cheer :)
01:51 Kamion keep it up
01:51 Kamion ack from me
01:51 raphink \o_ \o/ _o/
01:52 Gloubiboulga thanks :)
01:52 jsgotangco nice one
01:52 zakame Gloubiboulga: rock on :D
ok, cool, Kamion happy, elmo acked, so we're down to
01:52 Seveas the next and last one already. Gloubiboulga thanks for
coming and keep up the good work
01:52 Seveas atie, you're up :)
01:52 atie My name is Chris Ha. I live in Houston, work for a
company as developer.
My Ubuntu work started with making my comments and
01:52 atie researches to the BetterCJKSupport wiki since November
last year and as Day 1 Dapper user, I made number of
bug reportings mostly beta user and CJK user concerns.
With that I was thinkg it better to be some sort of
team so discussed with Korean Ubuntu users and
01:52 atie established Ubuntu Korean LoCoTeam. I am acting as
contact for KoreanTeam, our team members are about 25
people. Also, there is Ubuntu CJK Testers team
including 4 CJK LoCoTeam contacts about a month now.
My main concern at this point is about translations for
Dapper, by myself I translated some Dapper packages and
products, and coordinating with Ubuntu and GNOME
01:52 atie translators in Korea to prepare upcoming translations.
Meanwhile myself and KoreanTeam are doing some
translations and documentations to the Devel wiki at
ubuntu.or.kr .
I may put too many lines here, because I'd like to use
Ubuntu/Kubuntu dev version, I'll continue to use dev
01:52 atie version as my desktop OS doing same things above. I
believe that is helping Ubuntu Korean users and
developement of Ubuntu.
01:53 Kamion smurf: have you been working with atie on the locoteam
stuff already?
01:53 Seveas atie, CJK needs lots of love, what are your plans for
it?
01:54 ogra atie, we're about to add scim to main, any thoughts or
hints from an experiencend user about that ?
i've been to the korean team channel in hanirc.org
01:54 jsgotangco since i came from seoul and they have a very very
active community
01:54 atie Seveas, I can put what Korean users having trouble with
01:54 atie orga, I have votes from Korean Users
01:55 atie orga, and I did ask IM developer in Korea.
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01:56 jsgotangco atie, DAUM?
01:56 ogra might you be able to help with the scim stuff (even
through bugreports or feedback would be fine) ?
01:56 atie orga, yes I can.
01:56 ogra cool :)
01:56 atie actually now I am testing skim.
we need a strong group of maintainers for scim etc.;
01:57 Kamion it's not something that the core development team have
experience with
01:57 ogra we're really lacking in this area ...
01:57 Seveas re
01:57 jsgotangco minghua can only do too much
01:57 atie I am not a linux developer, but I think I can find my
way to help scim/skim and other CJK stuff
01:58 elmo jsgotangco: (s/too/so/)
01:58 ogra you dont need to be a developer to give valuable
feedback ... and thats most we need ... :)
01:59 atie orga, I think so.
01:59 Seveas elmo, perhaps not, from what I heard he does an qwful
lot ;)
01:59 Seveas s/q/a/
01:59 ogra telling us we do the right thing and pointing out the
drawbacks is the most important stuff here
01:59 ogra getting a good QA in place for input methods ...
01:59 atie IM is start point for CJK users
02:00 atie there are more stuff to improve like as ID3 tag...
02:00 Kamion somebody to collate problem reports from CJK users
would be good too, once we do get scim integrated
02:00 atie I am monitoring bugs related to CJK.
since most of us can only go "uh?" when confronted with
02:00 Kamion a problem report about a language we don't speak and a
script we can't type :)
02:00 Kamion especially if the problem report is of the form "but it
works fine with uim" or whatever
02:01 atie and assign ubuntu-cjk-testers for them.
02:01 atie means I am testing myself and get feedback from our
team and users
02:01 Seveas How big is the u-cjk-t team?
minghua is already doing a great job with the packages
02:01 ogra even if he might need help, thats not the most critical
part ...
02:01 atie Seveas, 9 including 4 loco contacts
02:02 atie so fair enough I think, since our team members are 25.
02:03 ogra anyway, a big cheer from me for atie ...
=== Seveas \o/
02:03 jsgotangco \o_ \o/ atie \o/ _o/
02:03 atie orga, thanks
02:03 Seveas atie, it's ogra, not orga :)
02:03 ogra :)
02:03 atie sorry
02:03 jsgotangco heheh
02:03 mhz the now institutionalized \o\ \o/ /o/
02:04 jsgotangco good thing a is far from y
02:04 ogra Seveas, as long as i'm around thats ok :)
02:04 Seveas jsgotangco, ;)
02:04 Mez lol @ jsgotangco
02:04 ogra Seveas, (and also makes me feel less chaotic ;) )
02:04 Kamion I'm ok with atie for membership, from the sound of
things
02:04 Kamion elmo: ?
02:05 elmo yeah, ack from me
02:05 elmo (sorry was just reading some of the bugs)
02:05 Kamion glad to see more people with a clue about CJK
02:05 ogra ++
02:05 Seveas ClueJK :)
02:05 Kamion right, so in lieu of actually being quorate I think
we're done
02:05 Kamion any other business?
02:05 Seveas anyway, atie was tha last one for now, thanks for
coming!
02:05 atie I hope more on Dapper+1
02:05 jsgotangco yeah should be better
02:05 atie thanks everyone.
02:05 Seveas Kamion, time of next meeting?
02:06 ogra atie, congrats :)
02:06 elmo Seveas: let's put that off till we can talk to mako and
find out mark's schedule
02:06 atie ogra, thx
=== Kamion looks up sabdfl's travel plans
02:06 Seveas elmo++
02:06 elmo Kamion: using the cvd-calendar program?
02:06 mhz atie: i'm very happy for you
02:06 Kamion sabdfl's still on tour in two weeks' time, although at
the end of the tour
02:06 Kamion elmo: https://wiki.canonical.com/AsiaBusinessTour2006
02:07 atie mhz, me too. thanks to you.
02:07 elmo Kamion: I recommend the cvd upgrade ;)
02:07 zakame congrats atie
02:07 Kamion so yeah, it might be better to use cvd-calendar and
switch to a different day that week
02:07 Seveas cvd?
02:07 jsgotangco claire davis
02:08 Kamion Seveas: mark's secretary, among many other functions
02:08 Seveas ah
02:08 mhz lol
02:08 ogra Seveas, the walking calendar
02:08 atie can I ask one question? I'd be welcomed to CC meeting
at any time.
02:08 mhz yup
02:08 ogra atie, sure
02:08 jsgotangco of course
02:08 Kamion atie: sure, but general questions are usually more
appropriate elsewhere
02:08 Seveas everyone is welcome, Ubuntu member or not
02:08 raphink :)
02:08 atie thanks guy.
02:08 mhz atie: and you can always bring new ideas of cheering
\o/
02:08 mhz :D
02:08 Kamion ok, sounds like we're done
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02:09 Kamion meeting adjourned
02:09 Seveas thanks all, see you in 2 weeks :)
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