CC_2006-03-07

=== G0SUB is Baishampayan Ghose
01:01   Spec    when're you headed towards FOSE kjcole?
=== allee is Achim Bohnet
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01:02   jelkner Spec: thanks for the great work you did on the website!
01:02   kjcole  Spec,  I *WAS* going to shower and head out early.  People said things open at 9:00 but I was guessing  8:00... However, a phone call woke me, and I'm here instead. ;-)
01:02   Spec    hehe
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01:03   Spec    I'm going to head out at 7:45, I'm meeting ndanger at microcenter at 8-8:15
01:03   G0SUB   minghua !
01:03   minghua hello G0SUB
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=== raphink Raphal Pinson
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01:03   kjcole  Spec: I haven't checked out your handiwork yet.  (I got into IRC and haven't done anything else yet.)
01:03   MarioMeyer      heya jerome
=== kjcole is Kevin Cole
=== simira is Karianne Grnningster
=== ompaul is PaulO'Malley wiki http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulOmalley
=== jelkner is Jeff Elkner
=== MarioMeyer is Mario Meyer
=== spacey is Herman Bos
=== allee is Achim Bohnet
01:04   simira  is the CC present yet?
=== rob is Robert Stoffers
01:04   Kamion  afternoon folks
=== highvoltage is Jonathan Carter
=== dolzzzon is now known as dolson
01:04   sivang  simira: that's what I was wondering :)
=== dolson is Dana Olson
=== G0SUB is Baishampayan Ghose https://launchpad.net/people/g0sub
01:04   Kamion  dunno about elmo, he had a very long day yesterday+the-day-before
=== Seveas is Dennis Kaarsemaker
01:04   Seveas  hi Kamion
=== ogra is OliverGrawert
=== Spec is Nicholas Wheeler https://launchpad.net/people/dragoncow2
=== sivang is Sivan Greenberg
01:05   flint   flint, is flint
=== jsgotangco is Jerome Gotangco
01:05   jsgotangco      hi MarioMeyer !
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01:05   raphink hehe
=== phanatic is Szilveszter Farkas https://launchpad.net/people/phanatic
01:05   gora    gora is Gora Mohanty, from India
01:06   rob     everyone seen the uncyclopedia entry?
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01:06   sivang  Kamion: you in the london sprint as well? might be useful to get someone from there to get him to IRC client :)
01:06   simira  yes, nice :)
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01:06   jsgotangco      heya silbs
01:06   Kamion  sivang: I was there yesterday, but not today
01:06   simira  hi silbs
01:06   silbs   hi jsgotangco
=== jasNIX is Jasbir Khehra, from India
01:06   Seveas  rob - please stay on topic during the meeting (ok, didn't start yet but practice makes perfect)
01:06   sivang  Kamion: ah, k
01:06   sivang  hey silbs :)
01:06   rob     Seveas, yeah just waiting
01:08   flint   hey boys and girls, it is 07:07 here in the Frozen North, when does this parlay start?
01:08   jsgotangco      when we complete a council
01:08   mdke    flint, when the council arrives
01:09   Seveas  Kamion is doing his best to have them poked
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01:10   rob     done that about an hour ago :)
01:11   simira  please repeat
01:11   rob     simira, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
01:11   jsgotangco      :P
01:12   highvoltage     where's the agenda stored again?
01:12   simira  rob: yeye, I know how to read. But I don't see much difference from last meeting... I thought there ought to be other topics as well
01:12   rob     highvoltage, that link above
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01:12   Kamion  sabdfl will not be here; I'll phone elmo
01:12   Kamion  unfortunately it seems a bit implausible that we'll get mako at this time, although I can try
01:12   flint   it is no doubt in my mind that the community council is meeting over lunch...:^)
01:13   raphink hehe
01:13   rob     flint, not everywhere in the world it is lunch
01:13   Kamion  no reply from elmo's phone
01:13   Kamion  flint: that would work better if we were all in the same place ...
01:13   Spec    rob: yes it is
01:13   Kamion  (sabdfl sent apologies, BTW)
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01:13   flint   rob, in fact only at GMT is it lunch...
01:14   rob     thats right
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01:14   sivang  simira: you also in LOndon?
01:14   ompaul  flint, na its too early midday 15?
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01:14   Kamion  and of course I can't find mako's phone at the moment because obviously he isn't on the Canonical phone list any more. bugger.
01:14   gora    Well, I am having lunch here at GMT+05.30
01:14   simira  sivang: no, Oslo. GMT +1
01:14   Kamion  Um. This might not work very well.
01:14   imtheface       mako missing?
01:14   G0SUB   hehe
01:14   imtheface       :)
01:14   sivang  Kamion: you're the only persistent CC member that's always on :)
01:14   raphink it's lunch time for most europeans
01:15   Kamion  imtheface: 7am for him by my calculations
01:15   Spec    he's in my timezone
01:15   Kamion  although IIRC he was OK with the time
01:15   Kamion  mako isn't full-time on Ubuntu any more though, so it's not always feasible for him to turn up
01:15   Kamion  why don't we go over matters which don't require a vote, and I'll attempt to fly solo
01:16   jelkner question:  will we be discussing the "Member candidates for consideration"?
01:16   Kamion  I believe that's just the IRCops thing
01:16   Seveas  Kamion, and locoteams
01:16   rob     yeah, pretty much
01:16   Kamion  jelkner: if we don't have quorum, that's pretty hard
01:16   jelkner ahh
01:16   azeem   mako went to bed 6 hours ago, it seems
01:16   jelkner i'll need to leave to teach
01:16   jelkner i wanted to go on record in support of nick wheeler
01:17   Spec    thanks, have fun teaching :p
01:17   flint   Kamion, you could resolve to vote later, nominate on contingency of a vote.
01:17   Seveas  flint, with only one present that's icky
01:17   Seveas  s/one/one CC member/
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01:17   SteveA  Kamion: http://mako.cc/contact.html
01:17   Kamion  flint: we could do, but we'd be voting later anyway. FWIW all the proposed members look qualified to me
01:18   flint   Kamion, flint goes on record to endorse wheeler as a MOTU
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01:18   Kamion  Seveas: ah, thanks
01:18   MarioMeyer      heya segfault
01:18   jsgotangco      this isn't a Technical meeting
01:18   Kamion  er
01:18   segfault        mariomeyer: morning :)
01:18   Kamion  SteveA: ah, thanks
01:19   Kamion  tried mako's phone, got voicemail
01:19   ompaul  Kamion, the mobile is the shortest route to mako
01:19   Kamion  ompaul: that's the one I tried
01:19   ompaul  ahh
01:19   Kamion  ok, let's go over this IRC ops issue
01:19   Kamion  is Robert Stoffers here?
01:19   rob     yes
01:19   Seveas  rob is him
01:19   Kamion  ah, that's you
01:20   Seveas  rob is Freenode Staff, ubuntu member and docteam person -
01:20   Kamion  what other active Australian ops do we have? IIRC from the last meeting that our coverage there was wea
01:20   Kamion  k
01:20   Seveas  we have no other active ops in that area
01:20   Seveas  bob2 is MIA, ajmitch isn't active in #ubuntu
01:20   Kamion  jelkner: thanks, BTW - noted your support
01:21   Kamion  daniels is more or less MIA now too
01:21   spacey  mia?
01:21   Seveas  missing in action
01:21   Kamion  well, fooishbar as he is on the ops list
01:21   ompaul  thoreauputic when he can get a moment
01:21   jelkner Kamion: great, thank you
01:21   Seveas  daniels hasn't been active in there in quite a while
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01:21   rob     as a freenode staffer I can take cloaks directly, sort out problems quickly, get in direct contact by phone with freenode head of staff (Rob Levin)
01:21   azeem   jdub?
01:21   apokryphos      not that active in #ubuntu
01:22   Seveas  rob, hah, I have lilos pager/phone too ;)
01:22   azeem   if you allow a side question, is there a mechanism to page ops if needed as in #debian?
01:22   sivang  MIA sounds so military :)
01:22   Seveas  azeem, !ops in the channel
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01:22   Kamion  I see very little reason to object to somebody who's in the position of being *both* network staff and an Ubuntu member :-)
01:22   azeem   Seveas: ok
01:22   rob     heh, I have his and his other halfs mobiles :)
01:22   Seveas  Kamion, ny thoughts exactly
=== Hobbsee may be able to do some IRC op'ing, and is in australia
01:23   jsgotangco      we're very much near a monopoly then
01:23   jsgotangco      heh
01:23   Kamion  so please go ahead and give rob #ubuntu channel operator privileges
01:23   rob     thanks :)
01:23   Seveas  I think rob can do that himself ;)
01:23   ompaul  hehe
01:23   Hobbsee in #ubuntu as well, that is
01:23   jsgotangco      heh
01:23   rob     no, needs approval from jdub or someone else who works at ubuntu
01:23   Kamion  technical ability and operational permission are different, as any sysadmin will know ...
01:23   Seveas  rob, I am channel/group contact - consider this approval
01:23   rob     ah, when did that change?
01:24   apokryphos      some time ago
01:24   Seveas  less than 2 weeks ago
01:24   apokryphos      oh :-O
01:24   Kamion  rob: I'm Canonical staff and a CC member, so that should do too
01:24   rob     sounds good to me
01:24   Seveas  group contact a few months ago
01:24   apokryphos      ah yes
01:24   Seveas  Kamion, I'd like to reject the other suggestion (ubuntu/member/* as op)
01:24   rob     never mind anyway, I'm thinking of a cloak (you can just add me to your access list Seveas)
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01:24   ogra    Seveas++
01:24   Kamion  Seveas: I have to agree with you on that, as I mentioned on the wiki
01:24   Kamion  is jpatrick here?
01:25   jsgotangco      whitelist doesn't work always
01:25   MarioMeyer      Seveas++
01:25   Seveas  -ChanServ- [rob]  has been added to the access list for #ubuntu with level [10]
01:25   rob     thanks Seveas
01:25   Kamion  obviously any member can be considered as an op, but I don't want the two concepts to be identical
01:25   apokryphos      Kamion: doesn't seem to be on IRC atm
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01:25   rob     I think it would be a very bad idea to allow every member ops in #ubuntu
01:25   Kamion  well, the note is on the wiki for him
01:25   Kamion  locoteams
01:25   Kamion  smurf: here?
01:25   Seveas  Kamion, by that reasoning all ubuntu members should be forum administrators too
01:26   rob     just make them show up here at a meeting, and get the nod
01:26   MarioMeyer      if all members were ops we could have a LOT of people applying for membership only to get ops.
01:26   Seveas  MarioMeyer, true that
01:26   rob     thats true too
01:26   Kamion  Seveas: exactly
01:26   apokryphos      some do with that in mind, anyway.
01:26   rob     and a lot of people are just not suitable for it anyway
01:26   azeem   since when is being ops fun, anyway?
01:26   rob     its not :)
01:26   Seveas  ok, I consider it rejected - I'll ask jpatrick for his side of the reasoning and maybe put it back on the agenda
01:26   Spec    for the record, i don't want to be an op on irc :p
01:27   Kamion  thanks
01:27   spacey  i surely don't want to be an irc op :p
01:27   Seveas  locoteams
01:27   Seveas  G0SUB, indianteam
01:27   rob     ok, I'm off to bed, bye
01:27   highvoltage     poeple who have @hotmail.com accounts want to be ops, usually.
01:27   G0SUB   Seveas yes
01:27   apokryphos      azeem: it's a common thing; if you're in a community for some time, it's not so farfetch'd to see ops as an elite participant in the community. Some people like the concept of more power. ;-)
01:27   smurf   Kamion: somewhat
01:27   G0SUB   Can I paste an introduction?
01:28   flint   apokryphos, some people want to eat the sausage, and not know how it is made...
01:28   Seveas  G0SUB, please do (about the inian team - not yourself)
01:28   G0SUB   yes ...
01:28   G0SUB   Hello, we are here to apply for `official status' for the Indian LoCo
01:28   G0SUB   Team. We have done quite a lot of work for both Debian & Ubuntu in the
01:28   G0SUB   past and have worked on issues related to Indic Computing. Our members
01:28   G0SUB   continue to contribute to the two projects in terms of localisation and
01:28   G0SUB   development. Most of us have worked for Debian as a part of the
01:28   G0SUB   Debian-IN Team. For example, soumyadip here is the maintainer of
01:28   G0SUB   ttf-indic-fonts & numerous Indic aspell dictionaries for both Debian &
01:28   G0SUB   Ubuntu. gora has done a great amount of Oriya translations
01:28   G0SUB   (https://launchpad.net/people/gora-mohanty), I am the maintainer of the
01:28   G0SUB   Debian Graphical Installer Bengali Translations and a member of Ubuntu
01:28   G0SUB   Bengali Translations Team (https://launchpad.net/people/g0sub). svaksha
01:28   G0SUB   co-wrote the Sanskrit (sa) Locale with Christian Perrier, and there are
01:28   G0SUB   a lot of other members who have contributed a lot in terms of l10n and
01:28   G0SUB   bug reports, and not to mention advocacy and distributing CDs.  So here
01:28   G0SUB   I would request the CC team to grant the Indian LoCo Team official
01:28   G0SUB   status and let us continue our work as the LoCo Team for India.
01:28   G0SUB   ...
01:29   Kamion  whoa, big intro
01:29   Seveas  good intro
01:29   G0SUB   hehe
01:29   G0SUB   a big country :)
01:29   Seveas  How many members does your team have?
01:29   Kamion  how's Ubuntu been received in India?
01:29   G0SUB   Kamion Ubuntu is almost #1 in India
01:29   Kamion  I know that the installer's been weak on many Indian languages due to console limitation
01:29   jsgotangco      ive seen pics of sabdfl swamped by locals during his tour in india
01:29   Kamion  s
01:29   G0SUB   Seveas we have 15+ people if you consider translators
01:29   gora    Seveas: 23 signed up at last count: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam
01:29   Kamion  hopefully that will change with the live CD installer (and I hope we can get testing and translations from you guys)
01:30   G0SUB   of all languages
01:30   Seveas  G0SUB, not bad!
01:30   Kamion  G0SUB: almost #1> whom do we still need to beat? :)
01:30   G0SUB   hehe
01:30   Seveas  I really like that the team is active in both Debian and Ubuntu
01:30   gora    Kamion: Le chapeau rouge
01:30   Kamion  ah, predictable
01:30   G0SUB   Seveas we have Debian-IN project specifically for this ...
01:31   Spec    (Where can I find a list of existing LoCos?)
01:31   gora    Not to mention that most of us also work for IndLinux (http://indlinux.org) language teams, though this is not an official IndLinux project at the moment.
01:31   Kamion  Is there anything you guys need help with?
01:32   Seveas  Spec, LocoTeamList on the wiki
01:32   G0SUB   Kamion we need infrastructure like a website, mailing lists, ubuntu-in.org, etc.
01:32   G0SUB   Kamion I have mailed Henrik Omma about that already
01:32   Kamion  as I understand it smurf generally can/does deal with a fair bit of that
01:32   G0SUB   yes, smurf too
01:33   Kamion  although he does a sufficiently good job that I have remained blissfully unaware of the details :-)
01:33   Kamion  if there's a delay on mailing list creation, contact jdub
01:33   Seveas  mailing lists  jdub, ubuntu-CC.org  smurf
01:33   G0SUB   Kamion and there are a few things, like a few apps with Indic specific patches ... we would like to have them in Ubuntu
01:33   Seveas  website: your own responsibility afaik -- does Ubuntu/Canonical offer hosting?
01:33   G0SUB   Seveas they do
01:34   Kamion  G0SUB: perhaps you could put together a hit-list somewhere and post a URL to that list to #ubuntu-devel
01:34   Kamion  Seveas: linode
01:34   G0SUB   Kamion yes, we are already working on putting together a list
01:34   Kamion  (iirc)
01:34   MarioMeyer      Kamion, serverponto also
01:34   G0SUB   it's Linode and is provided by Henrik Omma according to the wiki
01:35   Kamion  ok, I see no problem with granting the Indian team official status, if smurf is happy with how things are going
01:35   G0SUB   :)
01:35   jsgotangco      the linodes are not available anymore
01:35   G0SUB   oh
01:35   jsgotangco      what we have are server prontos
01:35   Kamion  smurf: if you can deal with that out of band, that'd be great
01:35   Kamion  next up is the Chinese team
01:35   freeflying      Kamion: locoteam stuff past?
01:36   jsgotangco      we can work it out later
01:36   gora    Cool, thanks.
01:36   freeflying      Kamion: hi
01:36   G0SUB   jsgotangco great!
01:36   G0SUB   Kamion thanks!
01:36   Kamion  freeflying: would you like to give an introduction with what you guys have been doing?
01:36   Kamion  and anything you need help on
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01:36   freeflying      Kamion: will we ChineseTeam be confirmed
01:36   freeflying      Kamion: about ubuntu-cn locoteam
01:37   Kamion  yes, I know what your request is. :-)
01:37   Kamion  are there other Chinese team folks here as well?
01:37   freeflying      Kamion: no
01:37   Kamion  unfortunately I cannot read the web site to try to get an idea of activity, organisation, how well the Chinese team is getting along internally, etc.
01:38   jsgotangco      is there a -cn channel in freenode?
01:38   freeflying      jsgotangco: #ubuntu-cn
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01:38   jsgotangco      ahhh
01:38   Kamion  raphink: language => zh, country => CN
01:38   freeflying      ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com
01:38   raphink Kamion: thanks
01:39   freeflying      our website : www.ubuntu.org.cn
01:39   freeflying      wiki.ubuntu.org.cn
01:39   freeflying      archive.ubuntu.org.cn
01:40   freeflying      Kamion: so , how about all these for being confirmed ?
01:40   Kamion  ok, unfortunately I cannot really get any useful information from those without speaking Chinese
01:41   Kamion  I need somebody to be able to talk with me about your team's activity levels, what you've been doing, and how Ubuntu is getting along in China
01:41   freeflying      Kamion: Riddell can
01:41   Kamion  Riddell isn't a member of the Chinese team, surely?
01:41   raphink hehe
01:41   jsgotangco      hehe
01:41   freeflying      Kamion: but he know we have done for ubuntu
01:42   jsgotangco      but Riddell has been very helpful on the chinese team
01:42   jsgotangco      especially that cd
01:42   Kamion  I think I need to have a few more folks from the Chinese team here
01:42   silbs   Kamion: if I may, from an email I have a list of some things the Chinese team have done
01:42   silbs   I'm going to paste, if that's okay
01:42   Kamion  silbs: sure, I'm just uncomfortable with a single guy showing up :-)
01:42   silbs   1.    Resolved OOo2 crash while input chinese.
01:42   silbs   2.    Submit skim and scim input method into Kubuntu and Ubuntu repo.And resolved the compatibility between them.
01:42   silbs   3.    Merge some GPL CJK fonts into a "Free CJKunion" font.Covert some chinese TTF into vector fonts.
01:42   silbs   4.    Added a new BugReport system on forum.
01:42   silbs   5.    Actived two mailling list : ubuntu-zh@lists.ubuntu.com and http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntu-cn
01:42   silbs   6.    Released a better fontsconfig for chinese users.It resolved bold and italic fonts show in chinese.
01:43   silbs   and I believe they are planning to have a dapper release party
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01:43   Kamion  freeflying: have you made any progress on resolving differences within the Chinese team on such things as SCIM support details?
01:43   ogra    freeflying, whee, you are silbs-monitored .... :)
01:43   silbs   there are, Ibelieve, about 6 active members in the team
01:43   silbs   and interest is growing
01:43   jsgotangco      freeflying, do you know EricNeon?
01:44   freeflying      jsgotangco: ya
01:44   jsgotangco      hmm he's not around at the moment though
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01:44   Kamion  is there a bug report for that improved fontconfig?
01:44   freeflying      Kamion: actrually , now is the dinner time for we here now , so guys can not access irc
01:44   EricOSfire      hello ~
01:44   silbs   Kamion: I'm not sure what LoCo team decision criteria are, so don't know if this is enough. But I do think these guys represent the most active community presence we have in China
01:44   Kamion  freeflying: ok, I realise timings aren't always ideal
01:44   jsgotangco      oh there he is
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01:45   freeflying      EricNeon|CNteam: Kamion wanna know something f our team
01:45   EricNeon|CNteam good
01:45   freeflying      EricNeon|CNteam: so plz , say something
01:46   EricNeon|CNteam Kamion , nice to meet you !
01:46   Kamion  likewise
01:46   Kamion  12:36 < Kamion> freeflying: would you like to give an introduction with what you guys have been doing?
01:46   Kamion  12:36 < Kamion> and anything you need help on
01:46   Kamion  silbs has given me some comments about what you've been doing already
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01:46   Kamion  how is Ubuntu getting along in China?
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01:47   EricNeon|CNteam ng~
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01:47   jsgotangco      its a big place :)
01:47   Spec    I have to go, I'll try to make it to the next meeting. Gotta go promote Ubuntu at FOSE.
01:47   Spec    Hopefully there are more CCs next time :)
01:48   Seveas  bye spec
01:48   freeflying      Kamion: we are struggeleing advocateing ubuntu in china now
01:48   flint   Spec, I take it that you are in nomination...
01:48   Kamion  Spec: sorry about that :-/
01:48   EricNeon|CNteam Kamion,as you know, ubuntu china team have more then 5000 members
01:48   raphink Spec: drop by on #ubuntu-motu some time if you wish to become a MOTU
01:48   Spec    Kamion: no problem, :p
01:48   jsgotangco      whoa
01:48   MarioMeyer      morning licio
01:48   flint   Kamion, what is Wheeler's state at this time.
01:48   Spec    sober
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01:48   Seveas  EricNeon|CNteam, 5000 members?!?
01:48   Seveas  woah...
01:48   Spec    that's quite a few members
01:49   Seveas  how many of them are active?
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01:49   EricNeon|CNteam Seveas: absolutely!
01:49   jsgotangco      in china, everything is big
01:49   licio   MarioMeyer, good :-)
01:49   EricNeon|CNteam heh~
01:49   jsgotangco      its beating texas
01:49   jsgotangco      heh
01:49   Kamion  EricNeon|CNteam: as I didn't know, but thank you :-)
01:49   Kamion  flint: we have an agenda
01:49   ompaul  Seveas, picture this one in a million in China is one in 1400
01:49   freeflying      Kamion: shall i paste what we have done
01:50   flint   Kamion, no disrespect, just asked what his status was at exit.
01:50   kjcole  I too am off to FOSE.  We've got 2500  Ubuntu CD's to hand out. ;-) (FOSE = Federal Office Systems Expo --  US federal government's biggest computer conference)
01:50   Kamion  flint: let's take this to /query to avoid disrupting a discussion in progress
01:50   EricNeon|CNteam there are more then 30-50 members of core team
01:51   Spec    (don't get me in trouble, flint.)
01:51   flint   Spec, I only advocate 100%.
01:51   Seveas  EricNeon|CNteam, that's quite nice - now if only you guys could make CJK rock ;)
01:51   Kamion  EricNeon|CNteam: that sounds like pretty good progress; how is the team getting along internally?
01:52   jsgotangco      they translated the whole site
01:52   jsgotangco      whoa
01:52   jsgotangco      even the partners page
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01:52   Kamion  we should be able to get most of the scim changes into main fairly soon, which should help for CJK support
01:53   EricNeon|CNteam we builded a power forum on website
01:53   freeflying      jsgotangco: wow, not the partners pages
01:53   freeflying      Kamion: scim is one of the goal of BetterCJKSupport
01:53   EricNeon|CNteam and the core team members must online ervery day
01:53   Kamion  I notice that there's a separate ubuntu-cn archive; are bugs filed for everything in there so that it can all eventually be merged back?
01:54   freeflying      jsgotangco: we host a wiki with ubuntu-tw and guy from hk for translate
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01:54   raphink jsgotangco: I like the cartoon on it... about what I can understnad ;)
01:55   freeflying      Kamion: we also have subteam for ubuntu-cn , such docteam websiteteam tecjnicalteam
01:55   jsgotangco      the forum has 6000 members
01:55   jsgotangco      with more than 53,000 posts
01:56   G0SUB   raphink http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
01:56   spacey  its bigger then ubuntuforums? :P
01:56   jsgotangco      it just grew up on it own and became sustainable
01:56   Seveas  spacey, no
01:56   spacey  ok, just checking :)
01:56   raphink thanks G0SUB
01:56   G0SUB   raphink :)
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01:57   spacey  i will definitely convert my chinese friends to ubuntu now :P
01:57   jsgotangco      16,000 unique visits this march alone
01:57   freeflying      spacey: nice
01:58   raphink spacey: same here :)
01:58   Seveas  ubuntu-cn gets a big \o/ from me
01:58   EricNeon|CNteam Kamion: we are happy to seen Chinese TW/CN/HK team will merge to one as one year ago,we will resole same problems
01:58   Seveas  nice work as far as I can see
01:58   jsgotangco      their alexa rankings is increasing
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01:59   jsgotangco      -s
01:59   Kamion  EricNeon|CNteam: that's certainly good news
01:59   EricNeon|CNteam so we want build a ubuntu east develper center
02:00   jsgotangco      who sponsors your site?
02:00   EricNeon|CNteam china and korea and japan~
02:00   freeflying      jsgotangco: ourself
02:01   Kamion  ok, after following up a bunch of links I'm reasonably happy that there's enough activity and organisation to make the Chinese team official (shame it's just me rather than other CC members as well though)
02:01   Kamion  can you coordinate with smurf on any general locoteam organisation issues you have?
02:01   Seveas  freeflying, congrats!
02:01   Seveas  keep up the good work
02:01   EricNeon|CNteam we have not got any sponsor yet
02:01   freeflying      Seveas: thx
02:01   spacey  looks good indeed:)
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02:01   Kamion  also, is there anything you need from the main Ubuntu organisation?
02:01   raphink great :)
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02:02   jsgotangco      i think the amout of traffic they generate they need to have a dedicated server
02:02   Kamion  other than "all CJK bugs fixed" ;-)
02:02   freeflying      Kamion: we need more support like server for ubuntu stuff
02:02   Kamion  we don't sponsor hardware for other localisation teams, so I'm not sure that's something that can happen
02:02   Kamion  we => Canonical
02:02   smurf   Indian+Chinese teams look good to me too -- sorry for not participating, I'm @work
02:02   G0SUB   smurf thanks :)
02:03   freeflying      Kamion: and the speend to ubuntu.com is also a problem for us
02:03   Kamion  though obviously that's up to people other than me
02:03   G0SUB   smurf I have already mailed you ...
02:03   smurf   we have server space for European locos etc. if they need them
02:03   svaksha thanks :)
02:03   EricNeon|CNteam smurf: thank you !
02:03   Kamion  freeflying: I see that there's a cn.archive.ubuntu.com DNS alias; is it not working well?
02:04   Kamion  smurf: thanks for helping out there
02:04   freeflying      smurf: Kamion Our mirror often give errors like md5sun errors, due to the poor network condition
02:04   EricNeon|CNteam Kamion:because of government
02:04   Kamion  freeflying: that sounds like something that can be solved technically
02:04   jsgotangco      id say its the filtering
02:04   EricNeon|CNteam or another things
02:05   freeflying      Kamion: anyway , thx
02:05   Kamion  freeflying: could you arrange for the mirror admin to be put in touch with Znarl (Karl Tilbury), who deals with mirror admin at Canonical?
02:05   freeflying      Kamion: ok
02:05   Kamion  EricNeon|CNteam: the Chinese firewall is famous ;-)
02:05   G0SUB   hehe
02:05   spacey  Great Firewall
02:05   jsgotangco      heh
02:05   freeflying      Kamion: wow , you all know this issue
02:05   jsgotangco      yeah
02:06   flint   EricNeon|CNteam, please feel free to contact me if I can be of any service in regards to networking issues (flint@flint.com)
02:06   freeflying      jsgotangco: thx a lot
02:06   Kamion  it comes up in the tech news every so often, yeah
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02:06   raphink the only firewall that can be seen from the moon
02:06   EricNeon|CNteam flint:oh , I will ! thx a lot!
02:06   jsgotangco      freeflying, EricNeon|CNteam congrats
02:06   flint   EricNeon|CNteam, you are most welcome my friend.  
02:06   Kamion  ok, all sounds good - thanks for showing up, and apologies for the somewhat long discussion
02:07   Kamion  with my ftpmaster hat on, I'll have a look over the pending scim promotions to main
02:07   jsgotangco      cheers
02:07   freeflying      Kamion: thx ,and waiting for good news from you
02:07   Seveas  Kamion, maybe you could try and poke mako/elmo again now that we arrived at member candidates?
02:08   Kamion  sure, worth a try, bear with me a moment
02:08   freeflying      smurf: hi
02:08   Kamion  got elmo on the phone, he'll be here shortly
02:09   Seveas  cool
02:09   G0SUB   awesome
02:09   spacey  yay:)
02:09   freeflying      smurf: may we have the domainname www.kubuntu-cn.org
02:09   EricNeon|CNteam :-)
02:09   MarioMeyer      freeflying, that you may ask to Riddell
02:09   Kamion  aha, and got mako too
02:09   Kamion  we will have quorum shortly
02:09   jsgotangco      coooll
02:09   G0SUB   great!
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02:09   ompaul  kewl
02:10   freeflying      MarioMeyer: really ?
02:10   jsgotangco      this will be a long meeting
02:10   jsgotangco      heh
02:10   Seveas  jsgotangco, that sometimes happens
02:10   jsgotangco      yeah
02:10   Kamion  in the break before they get here, Hobbsee asked if she could be considered as an #ubuntu operator
02:10   spacey  good thing i make my own schedule
02:10   MarioMeyer      yup.. we got kubuntu-br.org a month ago or so..
02:10   Kamion  Does anyone have an opinion?
02:10   freeflying      MarioMeyer: then ask ogra for www.edubuntu-cn.org ?
02:10   ompaul  +1
02:10   smurf   freeflying: I can give you the data for the regsitration, but I'm not going to register 100+ kubuntu domains in addition to the ubuntu-XX:org ones
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02:10   Seveas  -0
02:10   MarioMeyer      freeflying, prolly
02:10   Seveas  don't know her too well but no objection
02:11   ompaul  Seveas, what I have seen impresses me
02:11   Hobbsee to give some background, i'm already an op in #kubuntu, #ubuntu+1, and #kubuntu-offtopic, and i'm also in australia.
02:11   Kamion  hi elmo
02:11   Seveas  ompaul, that's good enough for me
02:11   Hobbsee i'm also usually connected to #ubuntu as well :)
02:11   Seveas  I never visit the #kubuntu channels
02:11   Hobbsee hehe
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02:11   Seveas  Hobbsee, what's your timezone?
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02:11   ogra    mako !
02:11   mako    greetings
02:11   Kamion  I have no objection to Hobbsee as an op. With rob as well, how does this leave our timezone coverage?
02:11   ompaul  mako, morning
02:11   EricNeon|CNteam hi mako~
02:11   jsgotangco      mako!
02:11   flint   hey mako.
02:11   spacey  hi
02:12   Kamion  QUORATE
02:12   Seveas  raphink, poke riddell, the CC handles only #ubuntu
02:12   Hobbsee Seveas: ah...AEST - it's 12am wed here now
02:12   mako    apolgoies for being late
02:12   raphink Seveas: ok
02:12   Seveas  Hobbsee, ok, +1 from me for location
02:12   Kamion  elmo, mako: have gone through the IRC op request on the agenda, dealing with a secondary request from that now; have also checked over and approved Indian and Chinese locoteams
02:13   elmo    Kamion: cool, thanks
02:13   EricNeon|CNteam wow, all of  idol are all coming~
02:13   Kamion  mako: I know it's early for you
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02:13   raphink ah hi mako:)
02:13   Seveas  Kamion, timezone coverage improves a lot
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02:13   juliux  hi all
02:13   Seveas  basically they're the 'missing link'
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02:13   Kamion  Seveas: is Asia covered?
02:13   G0SUB   Kamion not yet in my opinion ...
02:13   jsgotangco      yep
02:14   G0SUB   India I mean
02:14   Seveas  if we add Hobbsee too: yes
02:14   Seveas  G0SUB, timezone coverage, not country coverage
02:14   G0SUB   hmm
02:14   jsgotangco      australia != asia
02:14   Kamion  G0SUB: well, I mean are there operators around when Indians tend to be online
02:14   freeflying      Kamion: as for  asia , I can
02:14   jsgotangco      unless someone is from perth here
02:15   EricNeon|CNteam Kamion:yes we can!
02:15   Kamion  ok, so please add Hobbsee as an op, and we'll see how timezone coverage works out
02:15   jsgotangco      we can vouch for the +7,+8+9 timezones
02:15   Kamion  if there's still a problem for Asian folks, we can add somebody from an appropriate timezone
02:15   Seveas  -ChanServ- [Hobbsee]  has been added to the access list for #ubuntu with level [10]
02:16   Hobbsee excellent :D
02:16   Kamion  let's move on to member candidates
02:16   Seveas  allee, you there?
02:16   Hobbsee yep, that works
02:16   freeflying      Kamion: we are UTC +8
02:16   allee   Seveas: yes
02:16   mako    actually
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02:16   mako    Kamion: before we do
02:16   mako    there's one thing i wanted to bring up
02:16   Kamion  sure
02:17   mako    we can phrase this as a general question
02:18   mako    but i've been approached by people who are wondering if contributions to launchpad count as contributions to the ubuntu community
02:18   mako    in the course of work for canonical or not
02:18   mako    cleary, contributions to support of ubuntu users and ubuntu conferences counts
02:18   mako    but does launchpad development count towards membership
02:19   Kamion  the only time it's come up really to date has been when Daniel Silverstone was up for membership
02:19   mako    we don't need to answer this right now unless y'all have strong feelings
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02:19   Kamion  but in his case we were also familiar with his work on Debian
02:19   Seveas  Work on Debian generally is seen as a contribution to Ubuntu - I think it's no more than reasonable to follow the same reasoning for work on launchpad as launchpad is a direct support of Ubuntu
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02:19   mako    Seveas: well, they are a little different
02:19   jsgotangco      but lp isnt ubuntu-centric
02:19   Seveas  jsgotangco, neither is Debian ;)
02:19   G0SUB   heh :)
02:20   ogra    jsgotangco, its our core infrastructure
02:20   mako    because work on debian also leads to a strong confidence in someone's ability to the do the same tasks, truthworthiness, etc
02:20   mako    which lp does too to a degree
02:20   mako    in any case, we don't need to answer this now
02:20   mako    unless people have very strong feelngs either way
02:20   Kamion  I think I'd like to abstain from that question :-)
02:20   Seveas  let's think about it and come back to it next time, I'll put it on the agenda
02:20   mako    it would be good to know that now
02:21   jsgotangco      good point to ponder though
02:21   flint   debian, ubuntu and launchpad are "hacks" of each other... this is about hacking eh
02:21   mako    Seveas: that's fine.. but then we'll make it our homework
02:21   Seveas  mako, voluntary homework
02:21   mako    well, we should think about it
02:21   Seveas  I for one need more time to think about it - couldn't give a complete answer right now
02:22   mako    i understand
02:22   mako    i'm bringing it up because i'm of multiple minds
02:22   Seveas  mako, they have medication to cure that
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02:22   mako    alright
02:22   Seveas  anyway, shall we move on to membership candidates?
02:23   mako    that sounds fine
02:23   Seveas  ok, allee, please give us the 3-liner
02:23   allee   I'm a sysadmin running Kubuntu on Laptops and Desktops since Hoary. With dapper, server and cluster will follow. For the curious, a bit of background can be found at [WWW]  http://www.kde.nl/people/debian.html
02:23   allee   I'm a member of the [WWW]  Kubuntu Team. Helping others in creating/maintain packages, maintaining packages myself or helping whereever I can help
02:23   allee   Future Plans: Working more on enhancement and integration of pkgs. e.g. media support, usability, and consistency. Easier setup of networks, in general, everything that helps using Kubuntu on laptop easier. At least keeping an eye on MOTU/Teams/Science, getting involved if time permits.
02:23   allee   done
02:24   raphink allee is a great help on Kubuntu
02:24   Seveas  one \o/ from me for routing the packages via Debian
02:24   Tonio_  and or sure one of the most helpfull personn for MOTUs
02:24   raphink :)
02:25   Tonio_  he did so much to help me when Ihad problems
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02:25   allee   Seveas: and with an quick sponsor it even much fun :)
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02:25   raphink allee: hehe lucky you :)
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02:26   freeflying      wow allee is not a member ? he should be
02:26   Seveas  freeflying, if the CC agrees with you he'll be a member in a few minutes
02:26   Tonio_  freeflying: incredible, but he still isn't
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02:27   Seveas  ompaul, f1x0r your wikipage quick - it has a big edit conflict
02:27   ompaul  k
02:27   freeflying      Seveas:  he really shuld be
02:27   Seveas  freeflying, I agree, but Kamion, mako and elmo decide
02:28   raphink :)
02:28   Kamion  I'm fine with Achim
02:28   Seveas  (on a side note: I like that he takes the correct route to membership: first make sure you contributr an awful lot so the CC does not have to think too long)
02:28   Kamion  work looks pretty good to me
02:28   ompaul  Seveas: done
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02:28   elmo    ack
02:29   Seveas  cool! allee welcome on board!
02:29   G0SUB   allee congrats!
02:29   raphink yeah :)
02:29   phanatic        congrats allee
02:29   EricNeon|CNteam yeah
02:29   raphink welcome allee
02:29   freeflying      allee: congrates
02:29   allee   Thx all!
02:29   EricNeon|CNteam welcome
02:29   Seveas  let's move on quickly as time keeps ticking - dolson there?
02:29   Tonio_  congrats allee
02:29   ogra    congratsd allee
02:29   dolson  Seveas: hi
02:29   ogra    dolson, !!
02:29   Seveas  dolson, your 3-liner please
02:29   MarioMeyer      congrats allee
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02:29   dolson  First, sorry this is long. I'm long-winded, and this is only 15% of what I had originally.
02:29   dolson  I'm a musician, and that drives 95% or more of my contributions. So far, I had only used Audacity to record, but wanted to expand to use JACK, and looked into Ardour. I discovered something appauling on their website: "Warning: [...]  Ubuntu and Debian distributions are not recommended [...]  they tend to cause many problems [...]  for users aimed at using applications like ardour."
02:29   dolson  My long-term goal is to rectify this, and help make Ubuntu a recommended audio distro. My short-term goal is to work toward my long-term goal, a package at a time. My wiki (ubuntustudio.com) will fill any gaps with HOW-TOs in the meantime. Dapper has improved in performance, configuration, and has some new apps. A step up from Breezy, and I'm excited for the future.
02:29   Seveas  (and please keep that ferret away from me :p)
02:29   dolson  This came out of an email I sent Mark, requesting Ubuntu support musicians. He heard me and put me in touch with some of his team. They gave me info that I ignored until one day, early February. I decided to try packaging. I read the info Daniel sent, and got started. I packaged some new apps and a few patches from Malone. Thanks to the MOTU team, most of these are in Dapper. It can be frustrating dealing with a newbie like me, but
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02:30   dolson  they have been only helpful and understanding.
02:30   dolson  To sum up, I have to say: this is my distro. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
02:30   raphink dolson has been uploading a whole lot of packages for the ubuntustudio project on REVU lately
02:30   raphink and fixing them fast when required
02:30   ogra    yeah
02:31   siretart        I've reviewed some of them. I'm happy with dolsons work so far!
02:31   raphink he's been active in the MOTU
02:31   jsgotangco      i'm more convinced with his pics than his contributions
02:31   jsgotangco      :)
02:31   jsgotangco      joke
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02:31   Seveas  Audio on Ubuntu/linu in general needs to go some big leaps ahead - if dolson can help with that it'd be great
02:31   ogra    yeah, the picture is *very* convincing
02:31   Seveas  Feb 10. however is only a month ago
02:32   dolson  that's when I started packaging, yes
02:32   jsgotangco      as well as the affair with warez
02:32   Kamion  I've done a huge pile of NEW processing on stuff that dolson's uploaded, and it all looks good to me
02:32   dolson  I've been on the forums for over a year, IIRC
02:32   ogra    Seveas, ubuntustudio is older and there were discussions on the mailing lists log ago about it already
02:32   Kamion  I'm happy with dolson for membership despite the relatively short timescale
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02:32   jsgotangco      yeah
02:32   Seveas  ok, 1 down
02:33   dolson  It was suggested that I become a MOTU, so this is the first step towards that
02:33   jsgotangco      dolson, do you own ubuntustudio.com?
02:33   dolson  jsgotangco: I do
02:33   jsgotangco      that figures
02:33   dolson  about 98% of the work on it I did
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02:33   mako    the work looks great but 1mon seems a bit short
02:34   ogra    its way longer than a month
02:34   jsgotangco      im pretty much familiar with the nick too
02:34   Seveas  ogra, but that's not documented on his wikipage
02:34   ogra    (that he is involved inn ubuntu)
02:34   raphink mako: well it's one month packaging for MOTU, but the work was longer
02:34   siretart        his work as packager is one month. his work as ubuntu contributor is longer
02:34   jsgotangco      well
02:34   mako    ah, ok
02:34   mako    sure then
02:34   dolson  I've also promoted Ubuntu on a case-by-case basis, and converted at least one person, if that counts for anything
02:34   ogra    Seveas, dig the ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-users archive ;)
02:35   Seveas  ogra, I take your word for it
02:35   elmo    ack from me too
02:35   mako    that sounds fine
02:35   mako    i'm happy with membership
02:35   raphink dolson: wow! converted one person! ;)
02:35   raphink hehe
02:35   Seveas  ok, 3 down, welcome aboard dolson!
02:35   raphink dolson: I think ubuntustudio counts more ;)
02:35   G0SUB   dolson welcome!!
02:35   raphink welcome dana
02:35   phanatic        congrats dolson
02:35   Seveas  phanatic, poke
02:35   mako    yeah, the other work are still significant contributions
02:35   dolson  thanks guys
02:36   Tonio_  congrats dolson
02:36   phanatic        Seveas: my intro comes then...
02:36   ogra    yay dolson
02:36   Seveas  (I may have to leave without notice RSN - will be back in less than 5 minutes after that)
02:36   freeflying      dolson: congrates
02:36   dolson  :)
02:36   phanatic        I'm a university student from Budapest, Hungary. I administer an Ubuntu server at the university in my hometown. I installed my first Linux back in 99-00. After trying several distros I chose Debian, but since Hoary I use Ubuntu.
02:36   phanatic        My contribution to Ubuntu involves: organizing the Hungarian Community (launched the site ubuntu.hu, localization), spreading the word in the country (I presented Ubuntu in the TV and radio as well), doing some packaging for MOTU (currently maintainer of 4 pkgs).
02:36   phanatic        In the future I'd like to join the MOTU team to help their work, and I'd also like to continue my local community activity to spread free softwares, and Ubuntu of course :)
02:36   elmo    dolson: have you been in touch with anyone yet about trademarks?
02:36   phanatic        See my wiki page for more details on my work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SzilveszterFarkas
02:36   dolson  elmo: no
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02:37   Kamion  hooray, a perl hacker
02:37   jsgotangco      TV and radio!
02:37   ogra    Kamion, this might change
02:37   phanatic        siretart: i'm sorry to hear that :(
02:37   raphink phanatic has been quite active in MOTU aswell
02:37   elmo    dolson: you probably should at some stage; I can't imagine it'll be a problem
02:37   ogra    Kamion, i was one as well before i met you guys
02:37   siretart        phanatic has been active in #ubuntu-motu, learning and helping other motu hopefuls
02:37   siretart        I'm happy with his work so far
02:37   phanatic        Kamion: :)
02:37   ogra    siretart++
02:37   raphink some of phantic's packages are in universe already and he's been helping with bugs too
02:38   Kamion  how's the Hungarian team coming along?
02:38   dolson  elmo: who should I contact? I assume it's because I used "ubuntu" in my domain/site name? you can /msg if you wish
02:38   phanatic        Kamion: there are only a few active members (about 5-6), who contribute to docs, but a lot more are active on our forums (about 100)
02:39   phanatic        ubuntu has the 2. biggest community in hungary (after debian)
02:39   phanatic        but the debian people are getting converted to ubuntu :)
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02:42   Kamion  well, I'm happy, seems to be a fair history of significant contributions
02:42   raphink :)
02:42   Kamion  again I've seen some of phanatic's packages in NEW and not had huge problems with them
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02:43   mako    the contributions looks significant and over a decent period of time
02:43   mako    i'm happy with membership
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02:43   elmo    me too
02:44   ogra    applause
02:44   G0SUB   phanatic congrats!
02:44   jsgotangco      \o/
02:44   phanatic        thanks for you guys :)
02:44   mako    you did the work
02:44   raphink congratulations phanatic! welcome aboard :)
02:44   mako    :)
02:44   Seveas  spacey, poke
02:44   freeflying      phanatic: congrates
02:44   ogra    spacey, !!
02:44   spacey  hi
02:44   spacey  unfortunately my gedit just crashed with my 3 lines :P
02:44   spacey  anyway
02:44   spacey  I'm Herman Bos
02:44   G0SUB   spacey file a bug
02:45   Tonio_  welcome phanatic, congrats ;) ^^
02:45   spacey  my wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HermanBos
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02:45   spacey  My activities are quite widespread although most of my activity is with edubuntu
02:45   spacey  also part of the ubuntu dutch team
02:45   spacey  working on a project to convert a school to edubuntu
02:45   spacey  around 50 clients
02:45   ogra    yeah, spacey is one of the most active members of edubuntu
02:46   jsgotangco      ++
02:46   spacey  i have some pending work
02:46   Seveas  spacey is one of the earliest members of ubuntu-nl
02:46   ogra    he helps in a lot of areas
02:46   Seveas  oct/nov 2004 iirc
02:46   flint   yes spacey is most active...
02:46   spacey  with getting end user edubuntu feedback to edubuntu
02:46   ogra    he also attended all the edubuntu related BOFs at UBZ :)
02:47   spacey  I just love Edubuntu/Ubuntu, its just my style:)
02:47   spacey  future is more schools to edubuntu
02:47   spacey  :)
02:47   spacey  more documentation
02:47   ogra    yay!
02:47   ogra    JaneW might probably also speak up :)
02:48   Kamion  allee: please apply to join the ubuntumembers team in launchpad (https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join)
02:48   spacey  :)
02:50   mako    i like the ubuntu blog
02:50   Seveas  mako, he's on planet Ubuntu-nl
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02:51   Kamion  "Personally I couldnt find any porn website which slipped through the filter."
02:51   spacey  http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~spacey/ for the rest :)
02:51   Kamion  spacey: sometimes jobs just really suck, eh? :-)
02:51   ogra    hehe
02:51   spacey  Kamion: hehe :)
02:51   mako    is that a challenge?
02:51   Kamion  anyway, I'm fine with spacey for membership, seem to be good Edubuntu contributions there
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02:51   Kamion  and I think I remember meeting you at UBZ too
02:51   ogra    lots of :)
02:52   Kamion  (though there were a *lot* of people there ...)
02:52   Seveas  2 down, one to go
02:52   mako    speaking of one to go.. i have about 15 minutes
02:52   spacey  http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~spacey/plaatjes/hackergotchi/spacey-gotchi3-noshadow.png
02:52   flint   Kamion, regarding Nick Wheeler (Spec), I can speak for him in nomination.
02:53   Seveas  flint, we usually don't do that
02:53   Seveas  he can just apply next time
02:53   flint   Seveas, just offering.
02:53   flint   Seveas, then I have to get up early on Tuesday and Wednesday and screw up my schedule! :^)
02:53   Kamion  we do sometimes
02:53   mako    flint: not early
02:54   mako    flint: late afternoon next time
02:54   mako    and we do sometimes
02:54   ogra    elmo, opinions about spacey ?
02:54   jsgotangco      i give my support for spacey as well
02:54   mako    is alwaysa a bit spacey himself these early morning meeings
02:54   spacey  :>
02:54   jsgotangco      (need to go wife calls for late night dinner)
02:54   spacey  mako: you looked spacey at wth as well ;p
02:54   Kamion  several of the Edubuntu people I know have been pretty keen on Nicholas
02:54   elmo    ack
02:54   G0SUB   spacey congrats!
02:55   Seveas  spacey, welcome!
02:55   spacey  yay :)
02:55   mako    spacey: i'd been on the road for 6 weeks :)
02:55   spacey  \o/
02:55   ogra    yay spacey !!!!
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02:55   raphink :)
02:55   flint   That said, it is Town Meeting day here in Vermont and I need to go and govern.
02:55   flint   :^)
02:55   jsgotangco      i dunno nicholas but that's just me (as a regular edubuntu lurker)
02:55   flint   sksk
02:56   Kamion  jsgotangco: not a familiar face?
02:56   Seveas  I really prefer to postpone (flint has gone too, mako has to go soon)
02:56   Kamion  ok, let's leave Spec to next time
02:56   jsgotangco      nope
02:56   Seveas  there are two more candidates present
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02:56   Kamion  Baishampayan Ghose
02:56   Seveas  G0SUB, you're up
02:56   G0SUB   okay, my few lines
02:56   G0SUB   Hello I am Baishampayan Ghose from India. I am an upcoming Debian /
02:56   G0SUB   Ubuntu developer. I have two packages in Debian main which will come to
02:56   G0SUB   Ubuntu in Dapper+1. I am also a Translator and I am the maintainer of
02:56   G0SUB   Debian Graphical Installer Bengali translations. For Ubuntu I have
02:56   G0SUB   cleaned up and written patches for MOTU-Reviewers and those were
02:56   G0SUB   uploaded by jpatrick. I am a member of the Ubuntu Bengali Translators
02:56   G0SUB   team as well as the Indian LoCo Team. I am also a member of the New User
02:57   G0SUB   Network. I have done some translations on Rosetta. I have recently
02:57   G0SUB   joined the MOTU-Science team for which I intend to do a lot in future. I
02:57   G0SUB   have contributed to a couple of wikis, my most major contribution is in
02:57   G0SUB   being the co-author of the JhbuildOnUbuntu wiki which is hosted in
02:57   G0SUB   live.gnome.org. I also do a lot of advocacy and I distribute Ubuntu CDs
02:57   G0SUB   in all the FOSS events I visit. I am also a board member of the Free
02:57   G0SUB   Software Foundation of India.
02:57   Kamion  Jordan Mantha says:
02:57   G0SUB   https://launchpad.net/people/g0sub
02:57   G0SUB   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BaishampayanGhose
02:57   jsgotangco      lol that's a lot of lines
02:57   G0SUB   jsgotangco heh
02:57   Kamion  Baishampayan Ghose has been hanging out around #ubuntu-motu for a week or two. He seems very interested in packaging and shows quite a bit of promise in that area. His work with the Indian LoCo team will be useful for Dapper+1.
02:58   Kamion  G0SUB: FWIW it's easier on us if you try to pack it into fewer but longer lines
02:58   Kamion  anyhow
02:58   G0SUB   jpatrick isn't here ... he could have voted for me too ...
02:58   G0SUB   Kamion Emacs ...
02:58   Kamion  G0SUB: the line I just pasted I did by hand - never blame your tools
02:58   raphink G0SUB: jpatrick couldn't have voted, but he could have testified
02:58   G0SUB   raphink I am sorry , that's what I mean
02:59   raphink :)
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03:00   Kamion  G0SUB: only two of the eight bugs you list under "Bugs Fixed" on your wiki page actually have any contributions from you recorded in the bug log
03:00   G0SUB   Kamion that's an issue ... actually I gave the patches directly to jpatrick and he uploaded them ... my name's there in the changelog
03:01   Kamion  ok, fair enough
03:01   Kamion  it is worth being clear about that sort of thing
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03:01   G0SUB   yes
03:01   mako    G0SUB: is the indian team active?
03:02   G0SUB   mako yes! very much ... we got official approval today
03:02   mako    ah.. i missed the first 5-10 minutes of the meeting
03:02   mako    my apologies
03:02   Kamion  mako: make that an hour and 5-10 minutes
03:02   ogra    heh
03:02   dolson  haha
03:02   MarioMeyer      lol
03:03   G0SUB   heh
03:03   Seveas  rofl
03:03   mako    oh man
03:03   Kamion  ok, "a week or two" is a bit short to consider the MOTU work I think, but the translation work has clearly been going on for longer
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03:03   G0SUB   yes
03:03   Seveas  but not yet the infinite translator karma of death ;)
03:03   Seveas  (solid contribution though)
03:04   Kamion  I have this here debian-installer/packages/po/bn.po with G0SUB's name all over it
03:04   G0SUB   heh
03:04   ogra    sounds like a valuable contribution to me
03:04   Kamion  so I'm happy
03:05   mako    yes, the translation work looks good
03:05   G0SUB   I intend to do a lot of merges when dapper+1 is out ...
03:05   Seveas  good plan
03:05   ogra    yeah
03:05   Seveas  the motu will welcome you
03:05   mako    and IIRC, i've been in contact with G0SUB some time before
03:06   G0SUB   mako exactly ... good to see you remember
03:06   G0SUB   mako the 200 CDs I ordered
03:06   G0SUB   and the works
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03:07   gora    If it matters, G0SUB has been the big push behind the Ubuntu Indian LoCo team.
03:07   Seveas  gora, it matters
03:07   Seveas  good locoteams are very valuable
03:07   elmo    ack
03:08   Seveas  ok, almost there, only mako needs to be convinced ;)
03:08   mako    i'm convinced
03:08   gora    Seveas: Yeah, I meant as in you all don't know me anyways, so does *my* opinion matter :-)
03:08   Seveas  well, in that case
03:08   Seveas  welcome aboard G0SUB !
03:08   MarioMeyer      congrats G0SUB
03:08   G0SUB   thanks a lot guys! you have been awesome !
03:08   Seveas  last one on the agenda: the evil irishman
03:08   gora    G0SUB: congrats.
03:08   Seveas  ompaul, ping
03:09   licio   G0SUB, welcome.. congrats :-)
03:09   Kamion  G0SUB: please apply to join the ubuntumembers team in launchpad (https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join)
03:09   G0SUB   :)
03:09   ompaul  three line
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03:09   G0SUB   Kamion okay
03:09   ompaul  this is as short as I can do it,  Active on Sounder, IRC, and reading some other mailing lists, contribute in whereever I can. In 2005 I gave away in the region of 600 CDs 300 from Canonical the rest I organised the Lug to get them out there. Events that we did this at were : http://www.ictexpo.ie April 2005 ; http://www.ifso.ie a Free Software event on the 18th November which lead to me giving a box to the CS in Trinity College in Dublin and I sup
03:09   ompaul  plied that event. ; http://homepage.eircom.net/~kogrange/ys_computer_2006.html (get them young :-)) In general targeting people that may move over, also provide support to a few machines in the locality where I live. Generally I just love the stuff. Where do I want Ubuntu, everywhere. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulOmalley
03:10   ompaul  ohh and with some guy called seveas set up #ubuntu+1 to move the dapper and future dev based queries out of #ubuntu
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03:10   Seveas  ompaul, is quite active on irc (#ubuntu, #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu-offtopic at least) and very helpful when it comes to support
03:10   ompaul  thanks
03:11   Seveas  he's also op in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1
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03:11   Seveas  (#ubuntu-offtopic soon if bob2 returns)
03:11   mako    i'm happy with ompaul for support and community activity and solid irc contributions
03:11   ompaul  thanks
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03:11   Seveas  (and the countless hours of talk also count as good support)
=== G0SUB has seen ompaul being active since a long time
03:12   mako    alright.. i really need to run
03:12   ompaul  mako, is that a yes?
03:12   Seveas  bye!
03:12   Seveas  ompaul, it is
03:12   mako    yes, it's a yes
03:12   ompaul  cheers
03:12   mako    ompaul: i'd like to chat with you about gnubuntu stuff anyway.. i'll msgs you in a few hours
03:12   Bonzodog        ompaul: congrats from a fellow ubunyu user in Ireland
03:12   ompaul  mako, cool,
03:12   Seveas  Bonzodog, 2 more CC members need convincing
03:13   ogra    Bonzodog, still missing 2
03:13   Seveas  he's not theere yet
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03:13   mako    Seveas: can you send me the full log
03:13   Bonzodog        ah..
03:13   mako    ?
03:13   Seveas  mako, yes
03:13   mako    Seveas: thanks!
03:13   Seveas  tonight-ish
03:13   mako    apologize for being much later than i thought iw as
03:13   Seveas  (I'm actually at work)
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03:14   mako    :)
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03:14   ogra    so we're waiting for Kamion and elmo ....
03:14   ogra    ah
03:14   Kamion  that school project looks like some fine work
03:14   Seveas  that school project is indeed impressive
03:15   Kamion  sorry, my router threw a wobbly there
03:15   Bonzodog        We could do with an Irish member
03:15   ompaul  Kamion_, it was a couple of days - I walked in and the kids had used the net and sitting on the whiteboard was Linux Is Cool
03:15   Bonzodog        the ubuntu-ie team is very small
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03:15   ompaul  well Bonzodog I was there when it started but never saw it take off, talk with me later
03:16   Kamion  ompaul: heh, nice
03:16   Kamion  Bonzodog: I'm from Belfast, although don't live there any more
03:16   Seveas  \o/mpaul
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03:17   Kamion  anyway, I'm happy with Paul based on some pretty stonking advocacy work
03:17   Seveas  stonking?
03:17   ompaul  thanks Kamion
03:17   ompaul  Seveas, its +++
03:17   Kamion  did mako or elmo comment while I was out?
03:17   Kamion  Seveas: "very good"
03:17   Seveas  ah, thnks
03:17   Seveas  make acked
03:17   Seveas  mako*
03:17   Seveas  elmo has not yet commented
03:17   elmo    ack
03:17   Seveas  ok, he has
03:18   Seveas  congratz ompaul !
03:18   ompaul  thanks folks
03:18   Seveas  Go Irish, beat orangemen!
03:18   G0SUB   ompaul you rock!
03:18   Kamion  ompaul: BTW dapper should be better WRT building images without restricted on them and having them actually work
03:18   Bonzodog        congrats ompaul....
03:18   Kamion  I tweaked base-installer a bit recently
03:18   G0SUB   btw, I support Ted Walther in that we really need to put up a statue of elmo on the grounds of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute!
03:18   ogra    yay ompaul
03:18   ompaul  Kamion, thanks
03:18   ^Odd^   ~~~~~~~~Congrats ompaul~~~~~~~~~~~
03:18   ^Odd^   ^_^
03:18   Kamion  and I think we're done
03:18   Seveas  Any other business anyone?
03:18   Kamion  Any other business?
03:18   ompaul  Kamion, I'll have mako beat sense into me :)
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03:19   Kamion  oh, one sec, I have something
03:19   ompaul  Seveas, no that would not humane
03:20   Kamion  Adam Conrad's on the proposed members list and is already in ubuntu-core-dev; I assume nobody minds if I just add him?
03:20   ogra    heh
03:20   Seveas  rofl
03:20   ogra    will he stop the buildds if you dont ?
03:20   Kamion  (or if I apply this policy to ubuntu-core-dev members in general)
03:20   ogra    so better do it :)
03:20   Seveas  Kamion, I see that as 'backlog'
03:20   Seveas  should simply be added
03:20   ogra    Kamion++
03:21   Kamion  done
03:21   Seveas  there's no doubt about their contributions
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03:21   Seveas  ok, anyone else?
03:21   Seveas  going once
03:21   Seveas  going twice
03:21   Seveas  SOLD! meeting over

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