DapperDev_2006-03-09
08:52 mdz_ good morning
08:53 mvo hello mdz_
08:53 ajmitch_ morning
08:53 Kamion morning
08:54 mdz_ do we have everyone?
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08:54 pitti hey everybody
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08:55 doko the ui sprinters are missing
08:55 Kinnison blurgh
08:56 JaneW ping: BenC, dholbach, fabbione, infinity, iwj, jbailey, heno,
Kinnison, keybuk, ogra, seb128, sivan ,Riddell
08:56 JaneW hi all
08:56 mvo doko: not all of them
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08:57 JaneW doko: so you are here then..? ;)
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08:57 ranf hi
08:57 doko JaneW: not awake ...
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08:57 Kinnison JaneW: pong
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08:58 mdz_ mvo: would you ring seb128/dholbach's room?
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08:59 mvo mdz_: no answer so far
08:59 fabbione JanC: pong..
08:59 mdz_ mvo: same for Riddell please
08:59 JaneW hi fabbione
09:00 JaneW fabbione: and it's JaneW :P
09:00 mdz_ I've sent an SMS to Keybuk
09:00 mvo mdz_: I don't know Riddell roomnumber, if you don't know too
it I'll call the reception
09:00 fabbione yeah yeah.. JaneW stop pinging me on 20 channels and i wll be
less confused :P
09:00 mdz_ mvo: I don't
09:01 JaneW fabbione: I am covering all bases :P
09:01 fabbione ehhe
09:01 JaneW can someone in the UK call keybuk please?
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09:02 doko fabbione confused by JaneW?
09:02 Kinnison JaneW: I'm on it
09:02 ajmitch_ morning dholbach
09:02 JaneW Kamion: ty
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09:02 seb128 hi
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09:02 JaneW ok we are missing BenC, jbailey, heno & keybuk
09:03 pitti hey seb128
09:03 mvo mdz_: Riddelli is coming
09:03 JaneW might be a bit early for heno
09:03 seb128 hey pitti :)
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09:03 Kinnison JaneW: rang out to voicemail
09:03 mdz_ no response from BenC either
09:04 mdz_ need to get started though
09:04 JaneW Kinnison: hrm. Thanks for trying.
09:04 mdz_ dholbach: you're up first
09:04 JaneW mdz_: I'll mail them both.
09:04 dholbach mdz_: i'm not prepared yet
09:04 dholbach sorry
09:04 dholbach we were down at the conference room
09:04 dholbach it was closed *grrr*
09:04 JaneW backwards again?
09:05 Riddell hi all
09:05 JaneW hi Riddell
09:05 dholbach right, here i am:
09:05 dholbach this week: UI sprint (worked on gdm login screen, icons,
gnome-session fading)
09:05 dholbach this week (todo): UI sprint, more icons, little improvements
here and there
09:05 dholbach next week: new GNOME (2.14.0), catching up with bugs
09:06 JaneW ty dholbach
09:06 JaneW is mdz_ still with us?
09:06 JaneW doko: you ready?
- toolchain-roadmap: gcj-4.1 final uploaded, gcc-3.4.6 final
09:07 doko uploaded, gcc-4.0.3 release is expected today, then
toolchain-roadmap can be set to implemented
09:07 doko - python-roadmap: only change this week an update to current
CVS leading to 2.4.3, plus bug fixes
09:07 doko - openoffice.org: 2.0.2 release announced today, -l10n
package uploaded, other packges will follow after flight-5
09:07 doko - openoffice.org-amd64: all ia32-libs* packages updated, spec
can be set to implemented now.
09:07 doko - other: gcc-3.3/gcc-3.4 security updates, zope3 in main
installable, other bug fixes and bug tracking work
09:07 doko - next week: OOo sprint, OOo fixes, OOo bug work, fixing
other bugs.
09:08 JaneW doko: thanks, so you expect at least one goal to move to
implemented this week?
09:08 JaneW toolchain-roadmap...?
09:08 doko JaneW: yes
09:08 JaneW and openofficeamd64 too
09:08 doko yes, mot "my" spec
09:08 JaneW how are the others looking? Still on track?
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09:08 mdz__ having connectivity problems here
09:08 Mithrandir JaneW: ooo-amd64 was deferred, I though?
09:08 JaneW hi mdz__ doko's just been
09:09 mdz__ saw dholbach and doko's updates, but my responses were lagged
apparently
09:09 JaneW Mithrandir: right, but it;s done anyway right, even if it's
not included now
09:09 doko Mithrandir: it was having it built native _or_ the -amd64
packages
09:09 Mithrandir doko: ook
09:10 JaneW doko: and java roadmap? I am still bothered by the RED status
09:10 doko JaneW: openoffice-gnome -> OOo sprint, it's all implemnted,
what can be implemented for dapper
09:10 JaneW doko: great, can I mark it as implemented?
09:10 doko JaneW: java done for the need of OOo, others not touched
09:11 JaneW doko: so done as required, rest deferred?
09:12 doko JaneW: -gnome: most things implemented , java: done as
required, rest deferred
09:12 JaneW doko: right, thanks
09:12 JaneW can we move on?
09:12 infinity Please.
09:12 JaneW fabbione.
09:12 fabbione * server-candy: Missing/buggy: apache2 for "central snakeoil
SSL setup" and kernel -server as default from CD install.
* ubuntu-cluster: Waiting ocfs2-tools release for new
09:12 fabbione userland to sync with the kernel that will allow (finally)
full desync later.
09:12 fabbione * RLIMIT_PRIO: should be all in place.
09:12 fabbione * last week: mostly holiday. Catching up, bug fixing.
09:12 fabbione * next week: partman-auto/espresso (plan to review what's
done with Kamion after meeting), kernel security, bug fixing.
09:12 mdz__ are my messages getting through?
09:12 JaneW mdz__: no
09:12 seb128 mdz__: this one is
09:12 fabbione mdz__: last one was:
09:12 fabbione <mdz__> saw dholbach and doko's updates, but my responses
were lagged apparently
09:12 seb128 mdz__: the previous was <mdz__> saw dholbach and doko's
updates, but my responses were lagged apparently
09:13 seb128 then <mdz__> are my messages getting through?
09:13 mdz__ ok
09:13 JaneW fabbione: are you managing to help Kamion much with espresso?
09:13 mdz__ fabbione: would you confirm with the requestor that
RLIMIT_RTPRIO is working for them now?
09:13 fabbione JaneW: i am trying the best i can...
09:13 fabbione mdz__: will do
09:14 JaneW ok, heno isnt here. anyone know about example content?
09:14 Kamion JaneW: the partman-auto stuff fabbione's doing is a
respectable chunk of work and it's pretty necessary
09:14 JaneW dholbach: ^^
09:14 JaneW ?
09:15 JaneW ok I'll mail about that
09:15 dholbach JaneW: it's implemented - only updates and selection of other
material is needed for now
09:15 JaneW Kamion: ok thanks
09:15 JaneW dholbach: ok, how much work does that involve? Can we set it
to implemented, or is that premature?
09:16 JaneW infinity: when you're ready
last week buildd: Spent most of the week with soyuz/buildds,
09:16 infinity both hunting and fixing bugs, as well as getting sparc and
ia64 caught up again.
last week packaging: PHP security updates are uploaded and
09:16 infinity built, just need to release an advisory, did a bunch of work
locally on Thunderbird and Thunderbird extensions.
09:16 mdz__ dholbach: we have examples for each of the categories in the
spec?
next week buildd: hppa should come online soon, and need the
09:16 infinity same (or tougher) sort of love that sparc and ia64 have been
getting, plus a vicious soyuz bug that makes mass-give-backs
more painful needs to be sorted.
09:16 dholbach JaneW: set it to implemented - the example-content
visibilification has been introduced
next week packaging: Thunderbird, Thunderbird, Thunderbird,
09:16 infinity and more Thunderbird, I think. Lots of bugs, and I'd like to
cut them in half before release. I also need to get some LRM
upstream bumps in (pending approval).
09:16 dholbach mdz__: Jeff wanted to add some thing too.
09:16 JaneW dholbach: ok thanks, will do - who is responsible for
completing the content bits?
09:17 dholbach JaneW: heno is working on it. he mailed the art and desktop
lists about it.
09:17 JaneW dholbach: ok, ty
09:17 mdz__ JaneW: heno
09:17 JaneW infinity: the LRM stuff going to happen in time?
09:17 infinity JaneW: Pending approval from mdz.
09:18 JaneW ah ok.
mdz__: I need a UVF exception for fglrx (again), and avm
09:18 infinity fritz (whacky isdn thingee that doko uses), if that's cool?
:)
mdz__: doko assures me the latter is great and spiffy, the
09:18 infinity former adds more hardware support (yay), so it a bit of a
must I'd think.
09:19 JaneW iwj: you're up
09:19 doko the latter is an amd64 update only, needed for sending faxes
09:19 Mithrandir infinity: that's the first time I've ever heard somebody
refer to avm fritz as "spiffy"
AutomatedTesting: Spent most of last week wrestling with Xen,
09:19 iwj pbuilder, etc. There turned out to be an annoying tcp
checksum bug in Xen. I now have a working script for setting
up testbeds.
DefaultApplicationsFirefox: When discussed on ubuntu-devel,
09:19 iwj no-one was clearly in favour of the new behaviour without
`you have chosen to open ...', so I will revert it.
Firefox maintenance: Not done much this last week apart from
dealing with bugs and discussing the
09:19 iwj DefaultApplicationsFirefox change. I'm halfway to preparing
a new release and that will go out today. (An assortment of
minor things; I need to do a breezy->dapper test to check
some of the bugs.)
Firefox maintenance: horizontal scroll vs unwanted back
09:19 iwj problem (Malone 31827): do we have anyone who's an expert on
mouse input processing in X ? I think this bug needs looking
at.
09:19 iwj DeveloperDocumentation: no progress this week.
09:19 iwj Next week: on holiday.
09:19 iwj Email/bugs backlog: not too bad. I didn't fix the amd64 gs
bug 29878 yet; will try to do that tomorrow.
09:20 JaneW iwj: those docs going to happen? ;) they are not tied to the
release at all though, are they?
09:20 iwj No, they're not tied to the release.
09:20 JaneW ok, good.
09:20 iwj But I want to get them done.
09:20 infinity iwj: Are you doing de-facto gs maintenance right now?
09:20 JaneW agreed.
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09:21 iwj infinity: Err, not really but I probably should be. That is,
I don't think Malone's sending me the bugs.
09:21 mdz_ urgh
iwj: That perl error spewed by gs when fonts are installed is
09:21 infinity a bit irritating (and I suspect right up your alley to find
and fix in about 10 seconds, given your perl history)
09:21 mdz_ iwj: which bugs?
09:21 iwj Bugs for gs.
09:21 mdz_ iwj: are you set as a bug contact?
09:21 iwj I doubt it. Can I do that myself ?
09:22 mdz_ iwj: yes
09:22 mdz_ as for any package
09:22 Kamion https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gs/+subscribe
09:22 iwj OK, I'll do that.
09:22 JaneW jbailey is not here, I will mail him.
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09:22 JaneW Kamion.
infinity: I'll take a look. Do you have a handy ref ? I
09:22 iwj wasn't watching my last upgrade so I didn't spot it myself
...
09:22 mdz_ JaneW: I don't think jbailey has anything outstanding
ue-gnome-ui: Nearly all UE progress this week has been here;
09:23 Kamion I visited the UI sprint in London on Monday, got good
feedback, and have implemented about half of the necessary
changes.
ubuntu-express-bootloader: Basically implemented now,
09:23 Kamion although needs testing of espresso-yaboot since my powerpc
system's CD drive is too broken for me to test it myself.
09:23 Kamion ubuntu-express-copy-filesystem: Uploaded live-only package
removal code; still blocked on manifest from buildds.
ue-partitioning-tool: Handed off gparted work to Daniel
Silverstone; we've had a couple of long in-person discussions
about where to take it for Dapper, which have resulted in a
09:23 Kamion pretty clear plan of action that shouldn't take Daniel too
long to do. Waiting on disk selector in partman from Fabio
for most of the rest of this. Added format checkbox to
mountpoint page.
09:23 minghua infinity: are you talking about bug #6614?
next-week: Planning on Flight CD 5 today if possible;
Edubuntu amd64 CDs are overflowing and the live CDs need a
09:23 Kamion good kicking in general (just uploaded a fix for some of the
problems). Sort out the identification page's UI today.
Another UI sprint visit on Friday. Probably more UI hacking
for the rest of the week.
09:23 infinity iwj: I'll find the Debian bug later and link it in Malone or
some such fanciness.
09:23 iwj infinity: Thanks. Just telling me the Debian bug number will
do :-).
09:23 mdz_ infinity: livefs manifest for Kamion?
09:23 infinity minghua: Oh, so I am.
09:24 ogra Kamion, urgh
09:24 JaneW Kamion: are you handling flight 5?
09:24 ogra Kamion, today ??
09:24 Kamion mdz_: I just nudged him about it before the meeting
09:24 JaneW Kamion: I thought you were going to hand it off?
09:24 Kamion we'll talk about it right afterwards
09:24 Kamion JaneW: I never got round to talking to Adam about that
09:24 Kamion infinity: fancy doing Flight CD 5? :-)
09:24 infinity iwj:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/defoma/+bug/6614
09:24 Riddell hmm, I can't test any kubuntu CDs for a flight today
09:24 JaneW Kamion: can you give me % completes when you have a chance
please - it;s helpful to track the progress
09:24 Kamion JaneW: sure, afterwards
09:24 JaneW Kamion: heh
09:24 minghua infinity: I am doing the inter-BTS linking now (and assign it
to gs-common, I suppose)
09:24 Mithrandir Kamion: if I can nag you about flight stuff, I can do flight
5, sure.
09:25 infinity Kamion: You were planning on handing off Flight 5? :)
09:25 Kamion Mithrandir: feel free
09:25 Kamion perhaps you and infinity want to tag-team it
09:25 JaneW Kamion/ mdz: what's the feel about espresso for dapper, it
going to make it?
09:25 iwj infinity: Thanks.
09:25 mdz_ Riddell: vmware
09:25 Mithrandir Kamion,infinity: tag-team sounds fine to me.
=== infinity agrees.
09:25 Kamion we'll talk elsewhere then
09:25 Mithrandir sure
09:26 JaneW infinity/ Mithrandir if you could help with flight 5 and give
Kamion some slack to finish espresso that would *really* help
09:26 mdz_ ok
09:26 Mithrandir JaneW: we've already agreed to do so. :-)
09:26 JaneW let me know if you need help coordinating
09:26 JaneW Mithrandir: YAY
09:26 JaneW ok next
09:26 mdz_ still no Keybuk?
09:26 JaneW keybuk not here, so it's Kinnison ...
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09:26 JaneW Kinnison: you got news?
09:27 mdz_ Kinnison: go ahead with your summary
* PowerManagementConfiguration: Mostly bugfixing. Upstream
09:27 Kinnison continues to take an active interest in taking on our patches
and helping with our bugs.
* UbuntuExpress/GraphicalPartitioningTool: Correcting UI
09:27 Kinnison glitches in gparted's installer-mode patch, suppressing
filesystem building and generally making it fit better with
espresso.
09:27 Kinnison * General: Some soyuz work, correcting bugs with ACLs on NEW
etc.
* ToDo: Continue bugfixing g-p-m, acpi-support, etc. Filling
out rest of gparted needs for espresso. Espresso-UI work as
09:27 Kinnison agreed with Colin. Interspersed with that for the next two
weeks is the Launchpad/Bazaar-NG sprint which I have to
attend in London. I'll be doing my best to keep up with my
distro work during the sprint also.
09:27 Kinnison * Bugs: No significant changes to last weeks numbers, pretty
much as many opened as closed.
09:27 dholbach Kinnison: are you going to get the newest release of gparted
in?
09:27 dholbach Kinnison: I already said to Kamion that I was fine with
handing the package to somebody else
09:27 Kinnison dholbach: the installer-mode patch stands no chance of
applying to it
09:28 dholbach hmmmmm, it has important fixes in it
09:28 Kinnison dholbach: so currently I'm making the outward functionality
match what espresso needs in 0.1
09:28 dholbach Ok.
09:28 Kinnison dholbach: I'll then be looking at 0.2.2 but I don't know if I
can reintegrate the patch in time
09:28 dholbach Yeah, I looked at it too and it was my feeling as well.
09:28 Kinnison I.E. no promises, but I'm doing my best
09:28 mdz_ dholbach: can we work with upstream to get that patch
integrated?
09:28 mdz_ dholbach: upstream keeps breaking it
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mdz_: upstream wants to integrate the patch, there was just
09:29 dholbach little communication yet. Kamion: did I say something wrong?
or do you have an update?
09:29 mdz_ Kamion: on whose list is deferring partman commit to the
final stage of espresso?
09:29 Kamion mdz_: mine
09:30 mdz_ ok
09:30 Kamion mdz_: I've opened communication with upstream on that; mail
latency is just kinda long on both sides
09:30 mdz_ Kinnison: how much of the LP sprint are you attending?
mdz_: In terms of me being in London, I am expected at the
09:30 Kinnison entire thing. In terms of how much I'm taking part in, I'm
not sure
mdz_: Kinnison and I decided not to defer advanced
09:30 Kamion partitioning commit to the final stage; it's too big a job
for Dapper and we can have some text that says "advanced
partitioning changes are applied IMMEDIATELY" or something
09:31 Kamion but we'll defer autopartitioning to the final stage
09:31 mdz_ Kamion: sure, no problem with that
mdz_: I'm trying to get agreement for me to drive to the
09:32 Kinnison sprint so that if I need to spend time with Colin or Matthew
Garrett, I can just drive back for an evening
09:32 JaneW ok, can we move on?
09:32 JaneW Mithrandir.
misc: Sprint with Scott, had a sickday, been hacking on
09:32 Mithrandir espresso. Still goes slower than I'd like to, but getting
there. General bug triage
09:32 mdz_ JaneW: yes
09:32 Mithrandir next week: espresso, get popcon.u.c working
09:32 Mithrandir blocked on: nothing
09:33 JaneW Mithrandir: you feeling better now?
09:33 Mithrandir yeah, fine now. It was Tuesday, so..
09:33 JaneW ok, good
09:33 mdz_ Mithrandir: which espresso bits are you working on?
09:33 JaneW Mithrandir: also next week: flight 5 :)
09:33 Mithrandir mdz_: keyboard chooser still. Moving away from using
console-data to using kbd-chooser again.
09:34 Mithrandir mdz_: our keyboard stuff really, really needs attention for
dapper+1
09:34 infinity Gave up on using X keymaps?
09:34 infinity Or was that months ago? :)
09:34 mdz_ Mithrandir: yes; we should be able to unify that for dapper+1
09:34 Mithrandir infinity: discovered that the tool which loads X keymaps was
written in perl, so slightly inappropriate for d-i
09:34 infinity Ahh. Ick.
09:34 Mithrandir infinity: started investigating how libxkb* worked and
stopped just a bit short of going insane. :-)
09:35 mdz_ Mithrandir: for now, using the same logic from d-i is fine
09:35 Mithrandir mdz_: yeah, that's what I'm going for
09:35 mdz_ Mithrandir: ok, thanks
09:35 mdz_ mvo: ?
so now I'm waiting a bit for daniels to give me the code he
09:35 Mithrandir has on his laptop with a broken screen so I can proceed with
lcxkb
09:35 mvo Did:
09:35 mvo - on the UI sprint (worked on various litlle things and the
notification daemon to make it look cooler)
09:35 mvo - dist-upgrade: worked with the lp people on getting the
magic into the archive (done)
09:35 mvo - 3rd party apps updated and added gstreamer desktop files,
uploaded new gdebi (mostly cosmetic fixes)
09:35 mvo Will do next week:
09:35 mvo - i18n sprint
09:35 mvo - get hold of infinity to get the auto-dist-upgrade test
chroot setup
09:35 mvo - get the upgrade tool into the archive
09:36 mdz_ mvo: where in the archive is the dist-upgrade stuff?
09:36 mdz_ (the path)
09:36 mvo mdz_: it is ready for upload and when it is uploaded it will
be in /dists/dapper/dist-upgrader-all
09:36 infinity mvo: Tackle me tomorrow, and I'll get you chroots on all the
arches currently in the DC, and we can play.
09:36 mvo infinity: that sounds good
09:37 infinity (So, that's everything except hppa)
09:37 mvo mdz_: sorry, make that dists/dapper/main/dist-upgrader-all
09:38 mdz_ mvo: next week also, backporting to breezy
09:38 mvo mdz_: yes
09:38 doko mvo, dholbach, seb128: can anybody of you ask the scim guys
for a test plan, how to check for a working setup next week?
09:38 seb128 doko: not me
09:38 dholbach doko: seb128 and I won't be there.
09:38 doko mvo: ok, it's your's
09:38 mvo doko: that would be me then
09:39 pitti I can ask freeflying and huahua for help
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09:39 dholbach pitti: and minghua and atie
09:39 pitti right
09:39 Amaranth zzz time
09:39 Amaranth err, wrong channel
09:39 minghua I've told doko that I'll help on scim in OOo
09:39 JaneW minghua: thank-you :)
09:40 mdz_ mvo: has the upload/publish cycle of the dist-upgrade tool
been tested with your participation?
09:40 doko minghua: of course, nice!
mdz_: no, it was only tested by the lp team so far. I
09:41 mvo provided sample data though. I plan to do a upload of the
current code very soon to see where in the archive it ends up
:)
09:41 mdz_ ok
09:41 JaneW mvo: thanks
09:41 mdz_ mvo: thanks
09:41 JaneW ogra
09:41 ogra first: sorry for missing last time
* general: hunting of the "no ssh keys are generated" bug and
working on a fix, branched out a new devel branch for ltsp
(http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/devel/),
09:41 ogra fixed several small ltsp bugs and cleaned up the code. fixed
the last "gnome-screensaver ignores mediaplayers" bugs.
worked on edubuntu-artwork ltsp enhancements (ldm theme
handling, usplash theme incliusion in ltsp-client),
exchanging of the vendor logo, wallpaper select
09:41 ogra ion etc
next-week: more testing and digging for ltsp bugs, more
edubuntu-docs work (needs to go to main) writing some ltsp
documentation, getting edubuntu-artwork ready, flight5
09:41 ogra preparation i guess (strike that if we do it today...please
announce it a day in advance, its hard to coordinate with
testers if it comes completely unannounced), more
gnome-screensaver bughunting, play the CD space shuffling
game to tame edubuntu
09:42 mdz_ ogra: ok
09:42 mdz_ pitti: ?
reducing-duplication: DONE: bulk of gnutls12 migration (only
09:42 pitti buildd lag delays the actual demotion), seed changes for
demoting libgd, evaluated libsqlite0->3 transition, reordered
spec page for easier reading
general stuff done this week: many bug fixes, fixed
09:42 pitti thunderbird to work with locale packages, created tbird
locale packages
09:42 pitti next week: bug squashing
09:43 Kamion ogra: sorry for the short notice
09:43 pitti ... and heavy CD testing again
09:43 JaneW is it feasible to do flight 5 today?
09:43 ogra Kamion, its fine for now ... :)
09:43 mdz_ pitti: are langpack updates from rosetta happening?
09:44 seb128 has rosetta imported dapper now?
09:44 pitti mdz_: still not, carlos had to rewrite the import queue and
is waiting for review/rollout
09:44 pitti mdz_: infinity enabled the old way of publishing again so
that we have a fallback
=== pitti grumbles
09:44 seb128 pitti: can people translate dapper packages using rosetta
now?
09:44 seb128 or we are still waiting on the import?
09:44 pitti I'm asking for a status daily, but I can only wiat so far
09:45 mdz_ pitti: ok
09:45 pitti seb128: I think it's stalled on the import; some packages are
imported, but not all
09:45 seb128 urg
09:45 seb128 k :/
JaneW: possibly tomorrow, depends how long livefs fixing
09:45 Kamion takes really, and if testers can't be found today then
pushing to tomorrow is fine
09:45 mdz_ seb128: ?
UI sprint: played with new icons and theme, updated gdm menu
09:46 seb128 and session dialog icons sets, played with gtkrc for GDM
(colors, fonts, etc)
09:46 seb128 other: a few GNOME updates from this week, fixed some bugs on
the desktop
UI sprint to do: profiling GDM, apply gnome-panel help
submenu changes decided, doing the menu items labels and
09:46 seb128 tooltip changes (just got the list), doing some little UI
changes to the dialog that Martin did for the sync during
device ejecting
09:46 seb128 .
09:46 seb128 next week: GNOME 2.14.O, catchup with bugs and mails backlog
09:47 mdz_ seb128: ok, thanks
09:47 mdz_ Riddell: ?
09:47 Riddell done: kubuntu-express: Kamion has merged and
espresso-frontend-kde released, should now be on the CD
09:47 Riddell ui sprint: new logo, usplash, kdm theme done along with
kwwii, ui tweaks done with sabdfl
09:47 Riddell kubuntu-system-tools: new guidance with bug fixes tested and
uploaded
09:47 Riddell also: test and uploading various fixes people have sent me
09:47 Riddell TODO: kubuntu-express: better qtparted integration, location
page, keyboard page
09:47 Riddell ui sprint: ksplash, background, window manager look, various
other artwork (example content)
09:48 mdz_ Riddell: ok
09:48 mdz_ Riddell: kde upstream is finalized for dapper?
09:48 mdz_ or may we see another point release?
09:49 Riddell mdz_: 3.5.2 due just after or beta release, I'll see at the
time if it seems stable enough to go in
09:49 mdz_ Riddell: ok
09:49 Riddell but my feeling is that it should
09:49 Riddell s/or/our/
09:50 mdz_ JaneW: please chase BenC and Keybuk?
09:51 Mithrandir Riddell: having kubuntu-express as done and todo seems
slightly escherisque.
09:51 mdz_ did we skip anyone?
09:51 Riddell Mithrandir: done is Kamion merging and first release, todo is
still a long list
09:51 JaneW mdz_: will do
09:51 Kamion yeah, I find batching per-goal rather than batching by
done/todo a bit clearer personally
09:52 Riddell Mithrandir: that done was a header for work done this week,
not that the spec is all done, if that's unclear
09:52 JaneW mdz_: we need to discuss next week's meeting
=== Kinnison nods
oh, another note, removing packages in soyuz now seems to
09:52 Kamion work, so let me know if you need stuff killed off (but don't
bother for stuff that just isn't built from source any more,
as we have a report for that)
09:52 pitti yay
09:52 Kinnison Kamion: Glad to hear it worked
09:53 Kamion Kinnison: not entirely sure about binary removals yet
09:53 mdz_ right
=== Kinnison should have added "Solved soyuz's hotel-california mode and gave
patch to cprov" to his General section
09:53 Kamion I'll have to wait a day after the removals to be sure
09:53 Kinnison Kamion: Have you tried one so I can look at it in the tables?
09:53 Kinnison JaneW: if it's not too late, can you add the hotel-california
to my General 'done' queue?
09:54 Kamion Kinnison: a bunch - let's say linux-image-2.6.15-14-386
09:54 mdz_ I'll be travelling around the meeting next week
Kamion: openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-l10n
09:54 doko openoffice.org2-amd64 openoffice.org2-helpcontent
openoffice.org-debian-files
=== Kamion looks forward to a meeting with an orbiting mdz
09:54 JaneW Kinnison: sure... but what does that mean?
09:54 mdz_ so it's unlikely that I'll be able to make it at the
scheduled time
09:54 Kamion doko: queued, thanks
09:54 mdz_ we can either adjust the time, or move to a different day
09:55 Kamion JaneW: the archive was in "you can check out any time, but
you can never leave" mode - i.e. we couldn't remove packages
09:55 JaneW Kinnison: you can check out but you can never leave?
09:55 JaneW heh ok
09:55 ogra heh
09:55 JaneW good guess ;)
09:55 doko mdz_ we can bargain, if we change the next 3am meeting ;-)
09:55 Kinnison Kamion: the source for 2.6.15-14 looks like it's
pendingremoval too
09:56 Kinnison Kamion: so things look good on that front
09:56 JaneW so the suggestions was to move next weeks meeting to same
time same place the following day - i.e. Friday
09:56 Kinnison JaneW: 1400 UTC Friday?
09:56 JaneW yes at 14:00 UTC
09:56 mdz_ infinity: I think you get the worst end of that; how does it
work for you?
09:56 Kamion Kinnison: good stuff, should take effect this evening then
right?
09:56 JaneW It's not ideal, but the alternative is Thursday night time
09:57 Kinnison Kamion: pretty much, yes. one day after datemadepending
=== Kamion parsed that as "date-ma-depending". whose ma?
=== Kinnison grins
09:57 infinity mdz_: Well, it puts me at Saturday morning, which kinda
sucks.. :/
I just want to let you guys know that after recovering from
realizing HUB will not get included in main for dapper ;-) I
continued full steam as much as time allows me with my
09:57 sivang dayjob, and it's coming nicely. Backup procedure is almost
done (GUI + everything) , and Restore should come after
re-using most of the already done backup bits. if it
continues as it has for the last couple of days, I will have
some to release soon. I apologize for the p
09:57 infinity Oh, no... Wait... Not Saturday morning, just 1am on Saturday.
09:58 infinity mdz_: I guess I can cope with that.
09:58 Mithrandir infinity: you'll only be slightly tipsy after a trip to the
pub? :-)
09:58 infinity Something along those lines perhaps, yes. :)
09:58 infinity I'll write my summary before I go out for the evening. :)
09:59 infinity (Unless drunken summaries are everyone's cup of tea)
09:59 Kinnison this week I have been mostly drinking.....
09:59 mdz_ sivang: is that in dapper now?
10:00 JaneW infinity: thanks for understanding :)
10:00 JaneW mdz_: ok so 14:00 UTC next friday it is?
10:00 Kinnison cool
mdz_: not yet. but will get uploaded to universe, in your
10:00 sivang approval or MOTU lead, when I think it's presentable to
users.
10:00 seb128 JaneW: you just want to move to friday for next week or for
"next weeks"?
10:00 Kinnison Are we done? (my machine is getting very militant about me
taking a rest break :-)
JaneW: Hey, if having it Friday nght / Saturday morning is a
10:00 infinity license for me to show up to a meeting drunk (for the first
time in my professional career), who am I to complain? ;)
10:01 JaneW seb128: yes just for that one meeting, because mdz_ will be
travelling at that time on Thurs
10:01 infinity seb128: Just for the next week. If it was every week, I'd
strike.
10:01 seb128 oh, k
10:01 JaneW Kinnison: ditto
10:01 ogra mdz_, is it clear now that sparc will be a supported arch ? i
got offered some sparc supporting patches for ltsp
10:01 mdz_ sivang: any particular reason not to have uploaded it yet?
sivang: well, up to you I guess. better to do the
10:02 mdz_ development in Ubuntu than in private if you expect to submit
it for the desktop
10:02 ogra (which i would only risk to include if we officially want to
support it)
mdz_: yes, the burning to cd bit needs to be finished still,
10:02 sivang as this was one of my major goals in this project, I don't
feel it's worhty to get uploaded before it provides this
functionality smootly.
10:03 mdz_ ok, I think we're wrapped then
10:03 sivang mdz_: all other backup solutions lack this functionality,
it's important to me to have it in before a user can test it.
10:03 mdz_ thanks, everyoneMeetingLogs/DapperDev_2006-03-09 (last edited 2008-08-06 16:24:26 by localhost)