This is the 13th meeting of the Iowa Team, starting at 20:00 CDT and finishing at 22:09 CDT

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• Iowan
• f0o
• paultag

• AtomicSpark

• Chazz
• viyyer

• DrDogwelder

• godbyk
• Amaranth

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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 27 19:55:01 2010

May 27 20:00:01 <Iowan> Good evening all - time to start Iowa LoCo's  May meeting
May 27 20:00:05 <Iowan> Present
May 27 20:10:35 *       f0o (~chatzilla@173-28-62-125.client.mchsi.com) has joined #ubuntu-us-ia
May 27 20:11:24 <f0o>   wow i'm only 15 minutes late
May 27 20:12:30 <Iowan> Good evening - been (patiently) waiting!
May 27 20:12:43 *       Chazz (dabomb69@bb-183-006.omnitelcom.com) has joined #ubuntu-us-ia
May 27 20:12:56 <Iowan> BTW - it's only 12 after...
May 27 20:13:11 *       Chazz is now known as Guest98460
May 27 20:13:14 <f0o>   Iowan: thats still a record for me
May 27 20:13:42 <Iowan> I'd have been here until 9:00 waiting :)
May 27 20:13:47 *       Guest98460 is now known as evilchazz
May 27 20:13:48 *       evilchazz has quit (Changing host)
May 27 20:13:48 *       evilchazz (dabomb69@opennic/dabomb69) has joined #ubuntu-us-ia
May 27 20:14:02 <f0o>   chazz is evil
May 27 20:15:02 <Iowan> Agenda is open... what's new?
May 27 20:15:03 <f0o>   Iowan: 9 huh your swell man.. :)
May 27 20:15:19 <f0o>   im not sure i like 10.04
May 27 20:15:45 <Iowan> I hate to say it, but I (kinda) agree
May 27 20:16:22 <Iowan> I haven't had major issues - but this machine uses Hardy - my Lucid box doesn't get much use
May 27 20:17:00 <Iowan> Others have been having networking issues - especially wireless, and updates seem to be breaking things
May 27 20:17:31 <Iowan> f0o:  What don't you like?
May 27 20:17:38 <f0o>   totally buggy,
May 27 20:17:47 <Iowan> Totally?
May 27 20:18:44 <f0o>   Iowan: it runs like totall balls on my dell laptop
May 27 20:18:51 <Iowan> Seems like it was took until after Intrepid launched that Hardy got stable
May 27 20:19:14 <f0o>   im sure in 3 or 4 months it will even out
May 27 20:19:37 <f0o>   plus im  ui whore and i dont like the new look
May 27 20:19:37 <Iowan> I haven't been brave enough to upgrade my Jaunty laptop... yet
May 27 20:19:54 <f0o>   Iowan: i wouldnt upgrade it
May 27 20:20:28 <f0o>   i missed a few weeks did you guys have a release party
May 27 20:20:29 <Iowan> f0o:  Well, not yet - maybe after Meercat launches
May 27 20:21:03 <Iowan> Oops - delayed response... If there was a release party, I missed it - out of town
May 27 20:21:36 <f0o>   i haven't  tried the 10.04 server edition yet, has anyone ?
May 27 20:21:46 <f0o>   AtomicSpark:  will stop talking
May 27 20:22:07 <f0o>   AtomicSpark:  your so loud tonight
May 27 20:23:26 <Iowan> f0o: I haven't downloaded server yet - my CD is still Beta desktop
May 27 20:23:54 <Iowan> (from Global Jam)
May 27 20:24:53 <f0o>   i tried to order 10.04 cd and they denied me, i have had a cd of all lts editions mailed to me ;/
May 27 20:26:09 <Iowan> New philosophy... I'm hoping membership entitles me to one...
May 27 20:27:02 <f0o>   i was a little miffed, but someone has to pay to ship/burn all those so i guess i cant complain
May 27 20:27:45 <Iowan> Is there an option to buy from the website - or is that for bulk?
May 27 20:28:19 <Iowan> We're not yet official - otherwise the LoCo shoulda been able to get a handful
May 27 20:29:03 *       paultag (~tferenger@ubuntu/member/paultag) has joined #ubuntu-us-ia
May 27 20:29:22 <f0o>   Iowan: i think thats just bulk, i bet paultag would know good timing
May 27 20:29:28 <Iowan> paultag:  Evening!
May 27 20:29:29 <paultag>       heyya f0o
May 27 20:29:33 <paultag>       howdy Iowan :)
May 27 20:29:43 <f0o>   yo paultag
May 27 20:29:55 <paultag>       what can I do for you fine gentleman?
May 27 20:30:04 <f0o>   paultag:  i dont get a smiley face ?
May 27 20:30:07 <Iowan> Question on the floor about Official CD's
May 27 20:30:14 <paultag>       sure thing, what's up
May 27 20:30:43 <Iowan> f0o: Your question...
May 27 20:31:06 <f0o>   paultag: can a person buy a single cd of the latest release
May 27 20:31:15 <paultag>       Yup!
May 27 20:31:20 <paultag>       One sec
May 27 20:31:20 <f0o>   paultag: i got denied for my usual free lts cd i wanted
May 27 20:31:25 <paultag>       :(
May 27 20:31:38 <paultag>       Once you guys get approved I it's a 200 / 75 / 75 split ( Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Server ) for approved teams
May 27 20:31:42 <paultag>       but let me find you the link f0o
May 27 20:31:44 <f0o>   and i took marks name in vain
May 27 20:31:49 <Iowan> Any CD's for "unofficial" LoCo's?
May 27 20:32:12 <paultag>       Iowan, sadly, no :( -- YOU can get one each cycle ( Ubuntu member perc )
May 27 20:32:44 <Iowan> one of each? :)
May 27 20:32:46 <f0o>   bullocks
May 27 20:32:49 <paultag>       Iowan, not sure
May 27 20:32:56 <paultag>       Iowan, I get them for my loco and skim three :P
May 27 20:33:06 <paultag>       f0o, http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
May 27 20:33:30 <paultag>       they are fairly reasonable in price
May 27 20:33:37 <Iowan> f0o:  see if paultag  has any extras...
May 27 20:33:47 <f0o>   paultag: you need my address so i can skim one of your 3 :)
May 27 20:33:48 <paultag>       Humm, not a bad idea
May 27 20:34:05 <paultag>       f0o, Iowan, do all you guys meet up regularly?
May 27 20:34:23 <f0o>   define meet
May 27 20:34:30 <paultag>       hang out
May 27 20:34:36 <paultag>       whatever, nothing "official"
May 27 20:35:09 <Iowan> Well, there was the Jam... first/only in-person meeting to date
May 27 20:35:13 <paultag>       OK
May 27 20:35:20 <paultag>       Well, I can try and take some of my CDs from my reserve and donate them to the team I am mentoring ;)
May 27 20:35:44 <f0o>   paultag: theirs being a good mentor
May 27 20:35:45 <paultag>       and I could send you ( Iowan ) like 25 or so no problem
May 27 20:35:52 <paultag>       haha
May 27 20:37:02 <f0o>   i havent seen gringo in awhile has he been around
May 27 20:37:10 <Iowan>  That'd work - it's a bit short notice, but I'll be heading pst Des Moines this weekend
May 27 20:37:25 <paultag>       Iowan, I'm out of town, I can send them whenever you want in the next 6 months
May 27 20:38:20 <Iowan> Gringo was here for last meeting - I haven't seen much activity in between
May 27 20:40:08 <Iowan> paultag:  off to early start on holiday?
May 27 20:40:19 <f0o>   i want to know how we get these other chaps talking or are they all bots
May 27 20:40:48 <paultag>       Iowan, Hell yeah! -- I am also off back in Boston visiting them over my summer ( first summer break, ever! )
May 27 20:41:33 <Iowan> <jealous> a co-worker is headed to Chicago tomorrow for ballgame - I get to work...
May 27 20:41:42 <paultag>       that's kickass
May 27 20:41:45 <paultag>       I love chi-town
May 27 20:41:48 <paultag>       not working. That sucks
May 27 20:42:05 <Iowan> Pays bills, though - 
May 27 20:42:15 <paultag>       aye
May 27 20:42:29 <f0o>   im working monday
May 27 20:42:42 <paultag>       aww dude, why f0o?
May 27 20:42:48 <Iowan> 'Ya know that Chicago is a native american phrase for "powerful odor"?
May 27 20:43:05 <paultag>       Ha!
May 27 20:43:18 <f0o>   paultag: domain migration and exchange upgrade
May 27 20:43:29 <f0o>   Iowan: like a good odor ?
May 27 20:43:30 <paultag>       Ahhh
May 27 20:43:32 <paultag>       good day to do it f0o
May 27 20:43:43 <Iowan> f0o:  Well, I guess you made me feel better - at least I (think) have that off
May 27 20:44:03 <f0o>   paultag: so the client thinks, i think beer and bbq is a better idea
May 27 20:44:12 <f0o>   Iowan: anything to make you feel better
May 27 20:44:40 <paultag>       not going to lie, I'm about do get drunk as hell with my dad and slam on some ribs that I'll inevitably cook up f0o
May 27 20:44:46 <Iowan> Thanks - beer/bbq sounds good, too!
May 27 20:45:39 <f0o>   technically i only have to be onsite for an hours or so and i can do the rest remotely, maybe thing ill start hitting the beers
May 27 20:46:12 <paultag>       nice :)
May 27 20:47:16 <f0o>   when do the awn toolbar turn into such a piece of shit
May 27 20:48:19 <paultag>       ha!
May 27 20:48:23 <paultag>       try docky f0o
May 27 20:48:53 <f0o>   the repos have a newer version and it sucks
May 27 20:49:05 <f0o>   paultag: you strike me as more of a cli guy
May 27 20:49:38 <paultag>       f0o, sure am :)
May 27 20:49:54 <paultag>       f0o, but the way I see it, is I want my interface to look sexy has hell so I can work on the terminal in style
May 27 20:50:06 <paultag>       I don't care much about options, I'll take care of those in the shell
May 27 20:51:04 <f0o>   paultag: nice.. so you dont change the theme style with emerald or use conky or compiz
May 27 20:52:31 <paultag>       f0o, nah, just compiz. I like docky, but if I want system stats chances are I can't see my wallpaper, and I can just type a command in the terminal that is currently fullscreened :)
May 27 20:53:27 <AtomicSpark>   I was here, I swear
May 27 20:53:45 <f0o>   im using cairo dock now, can you drag things to docky dock
May 27 20:53:58 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: lies i was talking to you earlier :)
May 27 20:53:59 <paultag>       cairo ruled back in the day, same with kiba-dock
May 27 20:54:07 <AtomicSpark>   docky is what you should use
May 27 20:54:29 <paultag>       AtomicSpark, we've gone over this :)
May 27 20:54:48 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: you can't come in whenver you want like an hour late..... oh wait thats usually me
May 27 20:54:56 <paultag>       AtomicSpark, read the scrollback, I expressed my love for docky before
May 27 20:54:56 <AtomicSpark>   So I'll be in Hawaii starting sunday for 10 days. Then in Cali for a few days (maybe hit up the CA team).
May 27 20:55:05 <AtomicSpark>   Docky is nice. So is DBO. I annoy him.
May 27 20:55:11 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: dick
May 27 20:55:26 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: come in late and throw that on us,
May 27 20:55:46 <AtomicSpark>   :)
May 27 20:56:05 <f0o>   can you drag apps to docky
May 27 20:56:29 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: do you have room in your suitcase for me
May 27 20:59:29 <f0o>   i dont get running buntu on a mac, whats the point ?
May 27 21:00:30 <paultag>       f0o, sexy hardware + sexy OS :)\
May 27 21:00:38 <paultag>       tr -d "\"
May 27 21:00:48 <AtomicSpark>   Define sexy hardware.
May 27 21:00:52 <AtomicSpark>   I do not roll white and shiny.
May 27 21:01:02 <AtomicSpark>   I like dark and matte.
May 27 21:01:09 <paultag>       that's too bad
May 27 21:01:25 <paultag>       and that's not the hardware I speak of
May 27 21:01:30 <paultag>       the aluminum cases, hot damn
May 27 21:01:34 <paultag>       I love the mesh
May 27 21:01:52 <f0o>   the screen is sexy i'll give you that, however ole steve can take his 2500 price tag and shove it
May 27 21:02:25 <paultag>       aye
May 27 21:03:19 <AtomicSpark>   Did you QQ?
May 27 21:03:41 <f0o>   huh
May 27 21:04:50 <f0o>   paultag: are you running 10.04
May 27 21:04:59 <paultag>       f0o, yessir
May 27 21:05:06 <paultag>       f0o, both UNE and stock
May 27 21:05:18 <f0o>   whats your thoughts on it
May 27 21:05:36 <paultag>       f0o, I like both a whole lot. I think it was a near-perfect release
May 27 21:05:50 <paultag>       f0o, small issues with UNE, but I hacked around all the issues I had
May 27 21:06:10 <f0o>   paultag: meaning it opens a shell perfectly :)
May 27 21:06:26 <paultag>       f0o, sure does :)
May 27 21:06:37 <f0o>   paultag: what hardware
May 27 21:06:53 *       evilchazz is now known as Chazz
May 27 21:07:10 <paultag>       f0o, I handmade my desktop to be uber linux compatible, netbook is an HP Mini 110
May 27 21:07:19 <f0o>   Chazz: is no longer evil
May 27 21:07:28 *       Chazz is now a happy panda
May 27 21:07:47 <f0o>   Chazz: holy shit he speaks/well types :)
May 27 21:07:56 <Chazz> lol
May 27 21:07:59 *       Chazz waves at f0o 
May 27 21:08:00 <f0o>   paultag: no hardware issues huh
May 27 21:08:43 <f0o>   Chazz: ok your not a bot im crossing you off the might be a bot list
May 27 21:08:45 <paultag>       f0o, nope, I have it fully working. Bluetooth, WiFi, Screen ( duh ), Webcam, Mic, and Audio
May 27 21:09:06 <Chazz> xD f0o, I might just be a really smart one!
May 27 21:09:10 <paultag>       f0o, 1.6 GhZ, 1 GB RAM ( for comparison )
May 27 21:09:48 <f0o>   Chazz: what version you running
May 27 21:09:58 <f0o>   paultag: is that the netbook
May 27 21:10:17 <Iowan> Forums are crawling with "worked before, broke after upgrade to 10.04" - expecially wireless!
May 27 21:10:31 <paultag>       f0o, yeah, my desktop is a 2x Core 2 Duo ( 4 cores ) at 3.37, 8 GB RAM, 768 MB Graphics Card RAM, overclocked
May 27 21:10:37 *       Chazz is ChazzBot, running on Ubuntu 1.004 :D
May 27 21:10:39 <Chazz> erm
May 27 21:10:41 <Chazz> 10.04*
May 27 21:10:54 <Iowan> Hmmm - a bot that typos...
May 27 21:11:41 <paultag>       must be wicked smart
May 27 21:11:43 <f0o>   Chazz:  bot hows it treating you
May 27 21:11:53 <Chazz> f0o, ponies?
May 27 21:12:18 <Iowan> sneaky smart...
May 27 21:12:58 <f0o>   paultag: thats a hell of a system for terminal use, you better of some uber sexy ui going on
May 27 21:13:22 <paultag>       f0o, hell yeah. It also does builds for the other work I do ( and research for my University )
May 27 21:13:22 <f0o>   Chazz: its good to hear you talking bot or not :0
May 27 21:13:37 <Chazz> f0o, haha, ty. :P
May 27 21:14:11 <f0o>   who else can we rope into talking tonight
May 27 21:14:25 <f0o>   viyyer: are you out there
May 27 21:14:56 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: whats with the rode trip work play what
May 27 21:17:42 <f0o>   Chazz: tell us more about you, not sure we have meet before
May 27 21:23:15 <Chazz> f0o, I'm chazz. A boring 14yr old Ubuntu geek from Charles City, Iowa. :P
May 27 21:23:19 <Chazz> And you?
May 27 21:24:50 <f0o>   Chazz: i'm a boring married with children IT consultant
May 27 21:25:01 <f0o>   Chazz: what made you use linux as an os
May 27 21:25:11 <AtomicSpark>   f0o: family vacation
May 27 21:25:29 <f0o>   AtomicSpark: like an hour late :0
May 27 21:25:34 <viyyer>        f0o,
May 27 21:25:35 <viyyer>        yes
May 27 21:26:22 <f0o>   viyyer: are you a really smart bot like chazz
May 27 21:26:52 <Chazz> f0o, mostly due to windows failing so often. You?
May 27 21:26:58 <viyyer>        f0o, kinda yes .
May 27 21:27:17 <f0o>   Chazz: what about gaming
May 27 21:27:27 <Chazz> f0o, I, *never* game. lol
May 27 21:27:43 <viyyer>        Chazz, I have the same problem . my windows doesn't even have breeze blowing through it
May 27 21:28:01 <f0o>   viyyer: lol nice
May 27 21:28:40 <Chazz> viyyer, lol
May 27 21:28:41 <viyyer>        wassup with the meet .
May 27 21:28:52 <f0o>   ya iowan
May 27 21:28:53 <viyyer>        sorry for being late
May 27 21:29:06 <Iowan> Back again...
May 27 21:29:14 <f0o>   dont worry atomic was late sheezz
May 27 21:29:27 <Iowan> Meeting is still "open"
May 27 21:29:39 <viyyer>        I was so busy talking about different asian writing systems being similar to the indian writing systems.  I got carried away
May 27 21:30:19 <f0o>   viyyer: ? did i miss something
May 27 21:30:29 <viyyer>        BTW. the couple of places I installed lucid . people are really impressed. but then. they are not sure how it works.
May 27 21:31:06 <Iowan> viyyer:  Noticed any major malfunctions... netowrking?
May 27 21:31:20 <Iowan> Yeah, I still misspell network
May 27 21:31:43 <f0o>   Iowan: you missed paultag's its so awesome and i havent had any issues earlier
May 27 21:31:49 *       DrDogwelder (~drdogweld@wl69-216.lcom.net) has joined #ubuntu-us-ia
May 27 21:31:54 <paultag>       f0o, humm?
May 27 21:31:56 <paultag>       f0o, I'm always here
May 27 21:32:15 <Iowan> Another smart bot?
May 27 21:32:22 <viyyer>        Iowan, naah.. just that it works different.  people are lazy. maybe I should have a workshop.
May 27 21:32:22 <f0o>   paultag: i know mate i was filling iowan in
May 27 21:32:27 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: are you a bot
May 27 21:32:46 <DrDogwelder>   Nope
May 27 21:32:48 <paultag>       ah
May 27 21:32:52 <f0o>   paultag: i wasnt dogging you my brother
May 27 21:32:56 <Iowan> DrDogwelder:  (local joke)
May 27 21:32:58 <paultag>       f0o, :P
May 27 21:33:03 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: nor a smart bot
May 27 21:33:40 <DrDogwelder>   I've ben accused of being a bot, but never smart.
May 27 21:34:12 <viyyer>        DrDogwelder, what's about welding dogs? what kinhd of welding rods do you use?
May 27 21:34:14 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: ahh welcome aboard then friend
May 27 21:35:14 <DrDogwelder>   Ah.  Just a name.  Don't know a thing about welding.
May 27 21:35:34 <Iowan> What about doctoring - or dogs?
May 27 21:35:38 <viyyer>        DrDogwelder, I didn't know it was a comic character. :)
May 27 21:35:51 <viyyer>        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(comics)
May 27 21:36:08 <DrDogwelder>   I'm not a real doctor.  I just play one on the internet.
May 27 21:36:11 <viyyer>        A thin, silent man in a welder's mask who spot welds dead canines to evildoers. The question of how exactly one can weld a flesh and blood animal to a person is not answered by the series.
May 27 21:36:19 <DrDogwelder>   and I'm allergic to dogs.
May 27 21:36:50 <f0o>   DrDogwelder:  dont let them pick at your name their just being f0olish
May 27 21:37:37 <viyyer>        f0o, alright alright. I'll stop my research into dogwelding science
May 27 21:37:53 <Iowan> DrDogwelder:  I'd like to claim this is non-typical behavior, but...
May 27 21:38:23 <DrDogwelder>   My nephew gave me the name years ago as an artists name (I'm no artist either).  I didn't know it was a comic character till a year or two ago.
May 27 21:38:24 <viyyer>        your nick is so untypical too :)
May 27 21:38:37 <f0o>   Iowan: come on.. im blaming the 4 monsters drinks i had
May 27 21:38:53 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: so we heard what you dont do.... tell me what you do do
May 27 21:39:27 <Iowan> f0o:  practice for weekend?
May 27 21:40:06 <DrDogwelder>   Looks like I fire up xchat and get heckled in #ubuntu-us-ia.
May 27 21:40:09 <f0o>   Iowan: actually i have been putting in 14 hr days this week and last week
May 27 21:40:13 <DrDogwelder>   Most fun I had all day.
May 27 21:40:46 <Iowan> DrDogwelder:  Musta been a heck of a day...
May 27 21:40:47 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: we only heckle friends
May 27 21:40:55 <DrDogwelder>   I've never seen any activity here before.
May 27 21:41:23 <viyyer>        DrDogwelder, happens when it is active :)
May 27 21:41:38 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: oh theirs activity here  usually atomicspark is talking all our ears off
May 27 21:42:17 <DrDogwelder>   Always had to go the the Tennessee channel to see any activity.
May 27 21:42:24 <viyyer>        I am waiting for transfer of 400GB of files across usb on mc.
May 27 21:42:26 <f0o>   who havent we heard from godbyk are out there
May 27 21:42:49 <f0o>   viyyer: 400gb of what
May 27 21:42:56 <godbyk>        What's up?
May 27 21:43:03 <f0o>   are you a bot
May 27 21:43:17 <DrDogwelder>   Probably 400gb of ones and zeros.
May 27 21:43:20 <DrDogwelder>   Just a guess.
May 27 21:43:20 <godbyk>        Is this a Turing test?
May 27 21:43:44 <f0o>   i dont know what turing is
May 27 21:44:03 <f0o>   im kinda the village idiot
May 27 21:44:08 <Iowan> f0o:  You're having good luck raising responses - wanna try for Amaranth ?
May 27 21:44:27 <godbyk>        f0o: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
May 27 21:44:41 <f0o>   shhh not yet im working on godbyk dont tell him im trying to figure out if he is a bot
May 27 21:44:47 <Amaranth>      sorry, busy writing a javascript library to access google voice so I can make a palm pre app
May 27 21:45:13 <viyyer>        f0o, well right now 2300gb of video. looking at setting up a local video repository for the library here.
May 27 21:45:45 <viyyer>        godbyk, why do you think this is a turing test?
May 27 21:46:20 <Iowan> Wow - this is gonna take >2 pages on the meeting report
May 27 21:46:27 <godbyk>        f0o asked if I was a bot.  He's taking a rather direct approach, apparently.
May 27 21:46:30 *       viyyer tries to act like the emacs psychotherapist
May 27 21:47:47 <f0o>   Amaranth: java script champ me thinks
May 27 21:48:10 <f0o>   i think godbky thinks my question is ghey
May 27 21:48:32 <viyyer>        ghey??
May 27 21:49:09 <f0o>   yes
May 27 21:49:49 <viyyer>        interesting http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Ghey
May 27 21:51:55 <f0o>   viyyer: what kind of video repo, what material
May 27 21:52:25 <f0o>   viyyer: i like the dude on roller blades outfit in that link
May 27 21:52:44 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: what part of iowa you from
May 27 21:53:12 <Iowan> or Tennessee - or...
May 27 21:53:29 <f0o>   Iowan: everyone in the channel talked tonight.... thats a record
May 27 21:54:19 <paultag>       hell yeah!
May 27 21:54:26 <Iowan> f0o:  Yep - and it's all "official"... except for the "present" stuff...
May 27 21:55:00 <f0o>   Iowan: ya leave that out of the minutes good call
May 27 21:55:02 <DrDogwelder>   Southeaster Iowa.
May 27 21:55:15 <viyyer>        Iowan, present as in ?
May 27 21:55:23 <viyyer>        the stuff right now ?
May 27 21:55:38 <DrDogwelder>   Is there a meeting going on now?
May 27 21:55:47 <f0o>   hes editing out my comment earlier
May 27 21:56:04 <DrDogwelder>   Or was there one till I got here?
May 27 21:56:15 <Iowan> IF we were using the Logbot - we'd start w/ #startmeeting, end with #endmeeting
May 27 21:56:17 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: its open
May 27 21:56:35 <Iowan> and everyone would log in by stating PRESENT
May 27 21:56:41 <DrDogwelder>   I was just wondering if I missed it.
May 27 21:56:52 <Iowan> I think I can figure out who is actually here... everyone!
May 27 21:57:20 <f0o>   Iowan: u sure
May 27 21:57:30 <f0o>   dont count atomic :0
May 27 21:57:37 <Iowan> sure about? of course not!
May 27 21:57:50 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: we meet thursday nights
May 27 21:58:00 <DrDogwelder>   When does it start?
May 27 21:58:11 <f0o>   Iowan: you said you think you could figure out who is here
May 27 21:58:12 <Iowan> Officially the last Thurs of month for awhile @8:00
May 27 21:58:49 <Iowan> Ordinarily ends @9:00 - but when we're on a roll...
May 27 21:58:58 <DrDogwelder>   Cool!  I'll have to see if I can remember it next month.
May 27 21:59:30 <f0o>   DrDogwelder: get on the mailing list iowan will remind you
May 27 21:59:42 <Iowan> There's ... outtyped!
May 27 22:01:59 <Iowan> DrDogwelder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IowaTeam
May 27 22:02:12 <DrDogwelder>   I haven't checked the loco page in a long time.  Didn't see that there was a list.
May 27 22:03:35 <DrDogwelder>   I guess I saw that there was a list.  I just didn't see that it's had activity.
May 27 22:03:37 <f0o>   godbyk: you there
May 27 22:03:50 <godbyk>        f0o: Occasionally.
May 27 22:04:08 <Iowan> DrDogwelder:  I try not to spam the list TOO often
May 27 22:04:14 <f0o>   godbyk: tell me about yourself friend
May 27 22:04:46 <godbyk>        Not too much to tell. I'm currently a PhD student at ISU studying human-computer interaction.
May 27 22:05:36 <paultag>       godbyk, oh shit!
May 27 22:05:55 <paultag>       godbyk, I'm doing research with human interfaces to my other research on swarms
May 27 22:06:05 <godbyk>        Cool.
May 27 22:06:07 <paultag>       godbyk, I've been looking for someone to snag some input from :D
May 27 22:06:13 <godbyk>        Uh oh! :)
May 27 22:06:14 <paultag>       ( no pun intended )
May 27 22:06:17 <paultag>       :P
May 27 22:06:34 <paultag>       godbyk, poke me if you have a few minutes sometime :)
May 27 22:06:42 <godbyk>        What're you doing with swarms? And where does the human interface come into play?
May 27 22:06:51 <godbyk>        You can ping me whenever.
May 27 22:06:55 <godbyk>        If I'm around, I'll respond.
May 27 22:07:21 <godbyk>        (I'm around more often than not, but I've started a new research project recently, so my schedule's a bit up in the air right now.)
May 27 22:07:23 <paultag>       godbyk, I do work in Decentralized Algorithms and Emergent Behavior -- lately I've been using swarms of swarms ( sounds absurd, I know ) and providing a human interface to the "top" level
May 27 22:07:29 <paultag>       aye :)
May 27 22:07:50 <paultag>       godbyk, and that top level will manage the swarm below it ( and one more time under that ) to finish an "end goal"
May 27 22:08:02 <godbyk>        I see.
May 27 22:08:13 <paultag>       godbyk, so the idea is to take a fuzzy interface "do something like this over here" and turn that into micromanagement
May 27 22:08:18 <godbyk>        So a hierarchical, multi-agent system?
May 27 22:08:58 <paultag>       godbyk, kinda, the layers are just around so we can understand it, in theory any level can do anything any other level can do, think of it like different types of ants ( worker ants, fighter ants )
May 27 22:09:16 <godbyk>        Is each microswarm aware of the overall goal?  Or is it fed a simpler goal by its manager swarm?  What's the benefit of the hierarchy (as opposed to just throwing a ton of agents at the original problem)?
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