20070412
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09:55 sistpoty hi dholbach and somerville32 09:55 somerville32 hey : ) 09:55 Adri2000 hi 09:56 ScottK Hello. 09:56 lionel hi 10:02 ajmitch well, agenda is fairly empty, noone's here 10:02 Toadstool hi everybody 10:02 ajmitch hi 10:02 sistpoty let's get started, shall we? 10:02 ajmitch oh good, sistpoty is awake ;) 10:03 sistpoty hehe 10:03 sistpoty (partly awake... got up before 10am, new record *g*) === ajmitch was awake sometime around 5am 10:03 Adri2000 10am, wow! :p 10:04 dholbach ok 10:04 ajmitch dholbach! 10:04 dholbach is the agenda new? 10:04 dholbach hey ajmitch 10:04 ajmitch do we have anything to talk about? 10:04 dholbach the charter's on there 10:04 sistpoty erm.. that item was left over from the last agenda 10:04 ajmitch apart from the release, and gutsy 10:04 dholbach https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings 10:04 dholbach ok 10:04 dholbach I have only one small item: 10:04 ajmitch release freeze? 10:05 dholbach the motu-uvf team needs to clean out all bugs and get things uploaded or rejected properly 10:05 dholbach and we should do that RSN 10:05 ajmitch ok 10:05 dholbach we have quite a bunch hanging in a limbo state === ajmitch waits for LP 10:05 dholbach that's all I can see for now 10:06 ajmitch there don't seem to be that many on the assigned bugs page 10:06 dholbach subscribed? 10:06 dholbach the less the better === ajmitch has mainly been looking at the assigned bugs 10:06 ajmitch LP is slow enough as it is :) 10:07 dholbach what else? is there any use having another universe hug day before release? 10:07 dholbach nice to get LP cleaned up and patches submitted for either release or for SRUs, but will we have time for that? 10:07 ajmitch are we going to have a freeze in the last week? 10:07 ScottK We could have a reject all the left over breezy bugs day next week! 10:08 sistpoty erm... sorry, I'm a little slow today. I can't see any subscribed bugs of motu-uvf? 10:08 dholbach ajmitch: i suppose so 10:08 ajmitch sistpoty: it could be LP failing again :) I just got proxy errors trying to view bugs 10:08 dholbach ScottK: sounds good, but that's something we can clean up after release :) 10:09 sistpoty ajmitch: maybe... it only tells me: "There are currently no open bugs." (with the +subscribedbugs page) 10:09 ScottK OK. I may get started ahead of time. 10:09 dholbach sistpoty: ok, seems there are only ten 10:10 sistpoty ah, k 10:10 ajmitch of those that are in limbo - sysv_rc_bootsplash, wxwidgets2.8, texmacs 10:10 dholbach ajmitch, siretart, slomo, crimsun and I will take a look at them 10:11 dholbach anything else we should discuss before release? 10:11 rmjb any adjustments in the way MOTU work for gutsy? 10:11 ajmitch targetting the rc bugs list still? 10:11 sistpoty we did have the idea of a harder freeze, with *all* uploads needing to be approved by motu-uvf... are we doing this right now actually? 10:11 ajmitch dholbach: make that 8 on the uvf list 10:12 dholbach rmjb: that we'll discuss after release - atm we'll focus on the release 10:12 rmjb dholbach: ok 10:12 ajmitch ok to reject wxwidgets2.8 uvfe? 10:12 dholbach rmjb: but if you have suggestions, it'd be nice to hear about them - the mailing list might be good to discuss things there 10:12 dholbach ajmitch: ok 10:12 dholbach ajmitch: thanks 10:13 dholbach sistpoty: atm, all uploads get reviewed and checked by the archive admins - dunno how they decide if they wave them through or not 10:13 siretart hi folks - sorry for being late 10:13 sistpoty huhu siretart 10:13 ajmitch it'd be best to clarify things with the archive admins then if they ask 10:13 dholbach hey siretart 10:13 ajmitch hey siretart 10:13 dholbach ajmitch: yeah 10:13 sistpoty dholbach: so it's just regular uploading from the motu pov, right? 10:14 dholbach atm, yes 10:14 sistpoty ok 10:14 dholbach not sure if it's going to change in the remaining 7 days 10:14 dholbach I feel most of us have been quite conservative with their fixes 10:14 dholbach ie small unmetdeps fixes, etc 10:14 sistpoty not quite sure if it's worth the overhead... *shrug* 10:15 sistpoty (to change policy now) 10:15 dholbach yeah 10:15 dholbach ok.... what else? anything we should definitely take care of for the release? 10:15 siretart dholbach: I've asked Tollef about the idea we had regarding removing binary packages with broken deps. The idea got rejected, do you happen to know why? 10:16 dholbach no no idea 10:16 sistpoty let me check the logs... he stated a reason back when I asked him 10:16 ajmitch yay 10:16 ScottK The sneaky solution would be a new source package that you know will FTBFS. 10:17 Lutin ScottK: the former binary version would stay in the archive though 10:17 ScottK Oh. Nevermind then. 10:19 sistpoty hm... can't find it in my logs :(... iirc the reasons were the overhead for archive admins (it would result in binary new packages) and that it would be quite surprising to have a sru package in binary new === ajmitch should have looked closer at texmacs awhile ago 10:20 siretart hm. fair enough 10:21 ajmitch the RC bug in debian was only in the version in experimental 10:23 dholbach ok 10:23 dholbach anything else? 10:23 ajmitch short meeting, I like it 10:24 ajmitch next meeting date? === snille [n=snille@1-1-4-38a.apv.sth.bostream.se] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["If] 10:24 sistpoty two weeks from now? 10:24 dholbach 2 weeks? 10:24 dholbach sounds good to me 10:24 sistpoty :) 10:25 ajmitch rotate time or not? 10:25 dholbach next time :) === ajmitch won't be able to make it if it's at 0800UTC on the 26th 10:25 dholbach it's not 8 utc atm 10:26 ajmitch no, but we talked about changing it by 12 hours each time to be fair to people like australians :) 10:26 dholbach next time then :) 10:26 sistpoty fine with me :) 10:26 ajmitch k 10:27 ajmitch which means 2 meetings from now, will be during UDS :) 10:27 ajmitch but dholbach_ won't mind that :) 10:27 sistpoty hehe 10:27 dholbach_ but I can update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMenuHeader again :) 10:28 dholbach_ looks like i missed some part of the conversation 10:28 ajmitch 08:26 < ajmitch> k 10:28 ajmitch 08:27 < ajmitch> which means 2 meetings from now, will be during UDS :) 10:28 sistpoty the menu header is cool btw :) 10:28 dholbach yeah 10:28 dholbach ok good 10:28 dholbach everybody happy? 10:28 dholbach who mails fridge-devel@ and others? === ajmitch is overjoyed 10:29 sistpoty does that mean that you volunteer ajmitch? *g* 10:29 dholbach he's so happy, he can't stop himself :) 10:29 sistpoty hehe 10:29 ajmitch who do I have to contact? 10:30 ajmitch motu list, fridge-devel, devel-announce? 10:30 dholbach fridge-devel@ ubuntu-devel@ ubuntu-motu@ 10:30 dholbach yeah, or like that 10:31 ajmitch alright, will do 10:31 ajmitch thanks for showing up :) 10:31 dholbach super 10:31 sistpoty thanks everyone 10:31 dholbach adjourned :) === ajmitch has his passport ready now 10:31 ajmitch since I had to find the number :)
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