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IRC logs (03:05:21 PM) ausimage: #startmeeting
(03:05:22 PM) Mootbot: Meeting started at 20:00. The chair is ausimage.
(03:05:48 PM) ausimage: Shall we take roll
(03:06:03 PM) ausimage: PRESENT
(03:06:07 PM) Seeker`: PRESENT
(03:06:34 PM) ausimage: hmm everyone else is lurking??
(03:07:01 PM) ausimage: Ok...
(03:07:23 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Research of ubotu code -- Seeker`
(03:07:24 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Research of ubotu code -- Seeker`
(03:07:57 PM) ausimage: Seeker`: What did you find out?
(03:08:08 PM) Seeker`: I decided not to contact Seveas about integrating with ubotu
(03:08:19 PM) Seeker`: Mainly for reasons discussed towards the end of the last meeting
(03:08:37 PM) Seeker`: We wont have the control over the bot code, it would be much harder to test
(03:08:53 PM) Seeker`: There are now two of us working on TCL
(03:09:06 PM) Seeker`: I think it is something to consider down the line
(03:09:10 PM) Seeker`: but it isn't right for the bot just yet
(03:10:01 PM) ausimage: OK then we focus on our own bot then
(03:10:19 PM) Seeker`: yeah, for now
(03:10:28 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Focus on development of own bot in TCL.
(03:10:29 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Focus on development of own bot in TCL.
(03:10:30 PM) Seeker`: I think that was the general consensus last meeting
(03:10:40 PM) ausimage: I think you are right...
(03:10:47 PM) Seeker`: next topic?
(03:10:58 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Research on Calendars
(03:10:59 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Research on Calendars
(03:11:10 PM) ausimage: Thats Me :)
(03:11:26 PM) medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] entered the room.
(03:11:36 PM) ausimage: I looked at Google Calendars... and also contacted the Fridge
(03:11:52 PM) medders: hi
(03:12:38 PM) ausimage: From my talk with the Fridge I think we need to support the efforts to improve the facilities there.
(03:12:39 PM) Seeker`: ausimage: What did you find out?
(03:13:31 PM) ausimage: I think the Fridge is worth supporting, but they have closed source calender that does not implement the entire calendar spec as I understand it.
(03:13:58 PM) ausimage: They are willing to look into making plugins to improve it though.
(03:14:02 PM) Seeker`: what can we do to support it?
(03:14:48 PM) ausimage: I feel that if we start getting meetings we should forward them to the Fridge for inclusion.
(03:15:21 PM) ausimage: Having more on the calendar in different locations may spur ideas of development....
(03:15:31 PM) Seeker`: yeah
(03:15:55 PM) ausimage: [IDEA] forward meeting requests to the fridge
(03:15:56 PM) Mootbot: IDEA received: forward meeting requests to the fridge
(03:16:31 PM) ausimage: I also am of the opinion while the fridge should be our goal...
(03:16:58 PM) ausimage: We should look at using something like Google Calendars that does support the spec...
(03:17:09 PM) ausimage: while Fridge catches up..
(03:17:16 PM) Seeker`: hmm
(03:17:17 PM) Seeker`: possibly
(03:17:55 PM) ausimage: My reasons are because... it is easier to extract the information from a calendar that fully supports the spec..
(03:18:12 PM) Seeker`: 1. what spec
(03:18:20 PM) Seeker`: 2. in what way does'nt fridge support the spec
(03:19:30 PM) ausimage: The spec I refer to is the idea that calendars should support Name, Date, Time, Location, Description... at least... Fridge lacks a true location field...
(03:19:48 PM) Seeker`: But they can add one?
(03:19:55 PM) Seeker`: Our entry in the fridge had one?
(03:20:29 PM) ausimage: They could but under great pain the code is closed source... plugins might be possible...
(03:20:42 PM) Seeker`: its just that if you are thinking of extracting data with the bot, its easier to keep using the same tool rather than change from google to fridge
(03:20:52 PM) ausimage: Um our entry utilized fudging in the Description field...
(03:20:58 PM) Seeker`: because it will probably involve rewriting code.
(03:21:46 PM) ausimage: Yeah.. that is why I think a dual approach is worth trying....
(03:22:14 PM) Seeker`: but a dual approach with involve even more coding
(03:22:24 PM) Seeker`: i think we should postpone this until more people are present
(03:17:45 PM) ausimage: K
(03:18:24 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Postpone decision on whether a dual approach is necessary
(03:18:25 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Postpone decision on whether a dual approach is necessary
(03:18:44 PM) ausimage: but we should support the fridge by forwarding meetings
(03:19:12 PM) Seeker`: yes
(03:19:27 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Forward meeting requests to the Fridge
(03:19:28 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Forward meeting requests to the Fridge
(03:20:08 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Meeting Summary process write up -- Seeker`
(03:20:09 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Meeting Summary process write up -- Seeker`
(03:20:30 PM) Seeker`: I think we also need to postpone this until mor epeople are about
(03:20:39 PM) ausimage: gotcha...
(03:21:06 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Postpone discussion of Meeting Summary process
(03:21:07 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Postpone discussion of Meeting Summary process
(03:21:27 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Update on the bot
(03:21:28 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Update on the bot
(03:21:54 PM) Seeker`: I haven't had time to get an SSH key to get in to AndrewWilliams's server
(03:21:54 PM) ausimage: Seeker`: ??
(03:22:05 PM) Seeker`: However, i think he may have something basic running on there
(03:22:12 PM) Seeker`: basically, there isn't anything new yet
(03:22:27 PM) ausimage: how is the bot progressing??
(03:22:42 PM) Seeker`: I've defined some specs on launchpad
(03:22:55 PM) Seeker`: AndrewWilliams has had a go at implementing one of them
(03:22:55 PM) ausimage: url??
(03:23:02 PM) Seeker`: I'm going to try to do some more this week
(03:23:13 PM) Seeker`: http://launchpad.net/mootbot i think
(03:23:34 PM) ausimage: OK
(03:24:00 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Seeker and AndrewWilliams will continue on the bot
(03:24:01 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Seeker and AndrewWilliams will continue on the bot
(03:24:11 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Team Communication
(03:24:12 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Team Communication
(03:24:31 PM) Seeker`: I have sent an email about getting a mailing list
(03:24:35 PM) Seeker`: I am watiing for a reply
(03:24:45 PM) ausimage: good
(03:25:15 PM) ausimage: [IDEA] Use WIKI page to show responsibilities for Meeting Summaries
(03:25:16 PM) Mootbot: IDEA received: Use WIKI page to show responsibilities for Meeting Summaries
(03:25:32 PM) ausimage: I mentioned with Vorian on this...
(03:25:34 PM) Seeker`: I dont know if that is a good idea
(03:25:45 PM) Seeker`: because hopefully, meetings will be summarised very quickly
(03:25:55 PM) Seeker`: unless you mean for every meeting
(03:26:06 PM) Seeker`: i.e. person x is reponsible for all meetings of team y
(03:26:11 PM) ausimage: Yes
(03:26:18 PM) Seeker`: ok
(03:26:23 PM) Seeker`: sounds reasonable
(03:26:30 PM) ausimage: So I know who to bug if a summary is not done....
(03:26:41 PM) ausimage: and I do not duplicate work
(03:26:47 PM) Seeker`: yeah
(03:27:13 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Waiting for Mailing List on list.ubunut.com
(03:27:14 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Waiting for Mailing List on list.ubunut.com
(03:27:44 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Develop Meeting Summary Responsibility Page
(03:27:45 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Develop Meeting Summary Responsibility Page
(03:28:13 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Review ways to raise interest
(03:28:14 PM) Mootbot: New topic: Review ways to raise interest
(03:28:29 PM) Seeker`: I think all we can do is keep plugging it
(03:29:00 PM) ausimage: Yup...
(03:29:17 PM) Seeker`: we have the slot in the loco meeting
(03:29:19 PM) AndrewWilliams: sorry i'm late guys, dinner over run
(03:29:22 PM) Seeker`: i dont see what else we can do
(03:29:33 PM) Seeker`: AndrewWilliams: We are just about done now
(03:29:41 PM) AndrewWilliams: sods law :)
(03:29:58 PM) ausimage: We are on Raising Interest
(03:30:26 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Continue forward raising interest
(03:30:26 PM) ***Seeker` has to go now
(03:30:27 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received: Continue forward raising interest
(03:30:28 PM) Seeker`: bye
(03:30:32 PM) ausimage: later
(03:30:59 PM) ausimage: OK... that is all that I have... any other business
(03:31:17 PM) ausimage: Alrighty then
(03:31:22 PM) ausimage: #endmeeting
(03:31:23 PM) Mootbot: Meeting finished at 20:31.

This is the 2nd meeting of the ScribesTeam, starting at 20:00 GMT and finishing at 20:31 GMT

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  • Report: ChrisOattes research of ubotu code

  • Report: Ausimage research on calendars
    • Utilizing Fridge
  • Report: ChrisOattes on meeting Summay process write-up

    • approval of process
  • Update on the the bot
  • Team communication: mailing list
  • Review ways to raise interest
  • Any other business

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copied from my client --Ausimage

(03:05:21 PM) ausimage: #startmeeting
(03:05:22 PM) Mootbot: Meeting started at 20:00. The chair is ausimage.
(03:05:48 PM) ausimage: Shall we take roll 
(03:06:03 PM) ausimage: PRESENT
(03:06:07 PM) Seeker`: PRESENT
(03:06:34 PM) ausimage: hmm everyone else is lurking??
(03:07:01 PM) ausimage: Ok...
(03:07:23 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Research of ubotu code -- Seeker`
(03:07:24 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Research of ubotu code -- Seeker`
(03:07:57 PM) ausimage: Seeker`: What did you find out?
(03:08:08 PM) Seeker`: I decided not to contact Seveas about integrating with ubotu
(03:08:19 PM) Seeker`: Mainly for reasons discussed towards the end of the last meeting
(03:08:37 PM) Seeker`: We wont have the control over the bot code, it would be much harder to test
(03:08:53 PM) Seeker`: There are now two of us working on TCL
(03:09:06 PM) Seeker`: I think it is something to consider down the line
(03:09:10 PM) Seeker`: but it isn't right for the bot just yet
(03:10:01 PM) ausimage: OK then we focus on our own bot then 
(03:10:19 PM) Seeker`: yeah, for now
(03:10:28 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Focus on development of own bot in TCL.
(03:10:29 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Focus on development of own bot in TCL.
(03:10:30 PM) Seeker`: I think that was the general consensus last meeting
(03:10:40 PM) ausimage: I think you are right...
(03:10:47 PM) Seeker`: next topic?
(03:10:58 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Research on Calendars
(03:10:59 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Research on Calendars
(03:11:10 PM) ausimage: Thats Me :)
(03:11:26 PM) medders [n=matt@unaffiliated/medders] entered the room.
(03:11:36 PM) ausimage: I looked at Google Calendars... and also contacted the Fridge
(03:11:52 PM) medders: hi
(03:12:38 PM) ausimage: From my talk with the Fridge I think we need to support the efforts to improve the facilities there.
(03:12:39 PM) Seeker`: ausimage: What did you find out?
(03:13:31 PM) ausimage: I think the Fridge is worth supporting, but they have closed source calender that does not implement the entire calendar spec as I understand it.
(03:13:58 PM) ausimage: They are willing to look into making plugins to improve it though.
(03:14:02 PM) Seeker`: what can we do to support it?
(03:14:48 PM) ausimage: I feel that if we start getting meetings we should forward them to the Fridge for inclusion.
(03:15:21 PM) ausimage: Having more on the calendar in different locations may spur ideas of development....
(03:15:31 PM) Seeker`: yeah
(03:15:55 PM) ausimage: [IDEA] forward meeting requests to the fridge
(03:15:56 PM) Mootbot: IDEA received:  forward meeting requests to the fridge
(03:16:31 PM) ausimage: I also am of the opinion while the fridge should be our goal... 
(03:16:58 PM) ausimage: We should look at using something like Google Calendars that does support the spec...
(03:17:09 PM) ausimage: while Fridge catches up..
(03:17:16 PM) Seeker`: hmm
(03:17:17 PM) Seeker`: possibly
(03:17:55 PM) ausimage: My reasons are because... it is easier to extract the information from a calendar that fully supports the spec..
(03:18:12 PM) Seeker`: 1. what spec
(03:18:20 PM) Seeker`: 2. in what way does'nt fridge support the spec
(03:19:30 PM) ausimage: The spec I refer to is the idea that calendars should support Name, Date, Time, Location, Description... at least... Fridge lacks a true location field...
(03:19:48 PM) Seeker`: But they can add one?
(03:19:55 PM) Seeker`: Our entry in the fridge had one?
(03:20:29 PM) ausimage: They could but under great pain the code is closed source... plugins might be possible...
(03:20:42 PM) Seeker`: its just that if you are thinking of extracting data with the bot, its easier to keep using the same tool rather than change from google to fridge
(03:20:52 PM) ausimage: Um our entry utilized fudging in the Description field...
(03:20:58 PM) Seeker`: because it will probably involve rewriting code.
(03:21:46 PM) ausimage: Yeah.. that is why I think a dual approach is worth trying....
(03:22:14 PM) Seeker`: but a dual approach with involve even more coding
(03:22:24 PM) Seeker`: i think we should postpone this until more people are present
(03:17:45 PM) ausimage: K
(03:18:24 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Postpone decision on whether a dual approach is necessary
(03:18:25 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Postpone decision on whether a dual approach is necessary
(03:18:44 PM) ausimage: but we should support the fridge by forwarding meetings
(03:19:12 PM) Seeker`: yes
(03:19:27 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Forward meeting requests to the Fridge
(03:19:28 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Forward meeting requests to the Fridge
(03:20:08 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Meeting Summary process write up -- Seeker`
(03:20:09 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Meeting Summary process write up -- Seeker`
(03:20:30 PM) Seeker`: I think we also need to postpone this until mor epeople are about
(03:20:39 PM) ausimage: gotcha... 
(03:21:06 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Postpone discussion of Meeting Summary process
(03:21:07 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Postpone discussion of Meeting Summary process
(03:21:27 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Update on the bot
(03:21:28 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Update on the bot
(03:21:54 PM) Seeker`: I haven't had time to get an SSH key to get in to AndrewWilliams's server
(03:21:54 PM) ausimage: Seeker`: ??
(03:22:05 PM) Seeker`: However, i think he may have something basic running on there
(03:22:12 PM) Seeker`: basically, there isn't anything new yet
(03:22:27 PM) ausimage: how is the bot progressing??
(03:22:42 PM) Seeker`: I've defined some specs on launchpad
(03:22:55 PM) Seeker`: AndrewWilliams has had a go at implementing one of them
(03:22:55 PM) ausimage: url??
(03:23:02 PM) Seeker`: I'm going to try to do some more this week
(03:23:13 PM) Seeker`: http://launchpad.net/mootbot i think
(03:23:34 PM) ausimage: OK
(03:24:00 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Seeker and AndrewWilliams will continue on the bot
(03:24:01 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Seeker and AndrewWilliams will continue on the bot
(03:24:11 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Team Communication
(03:24:12 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Team Communication
(03:24:31 PM) Seeker`: I have sent an email about getting a mailing list
(03:24:35 PM) Seeker`: I am watiing for a reply
(03:24:45 PM) ausimage: good
(03:25:15 PM) ausimage: [IDEA] Use WIKI page to show responsibilities for Meeting Summaries
(03:25:16 PM) Mootbot: IDEA received:  Use WIKI page to show responsibilities for Meeting Summaries
(03:25:32 PM) ausimage: I mentioned with Vorian on this...
(03:25:34 PM) Seeker`: I dont know if that is a good idea
(03:25:45 PM) Seeker`: because hopefully, meetings will be summarised very quickly
(03:25:55 PM) Seeker`: unless you mean for every meeting
(03:26:06 PM) Seeker`: i.e. person x is reponsible for all meetings of team y
(03:26:11 PM) ausimage: Yes
(03:26:18 PM) Seeker`: ok
(03:26:23 PM) Seeker`: sounds reasonable
(03:26:30 PM) ausimage: So I know who to bug if a summary is not done....
(03:26:41 PM) ausimage: and I do not duplicate work
(03:26:47 PM) Seeker`: yeah
(03:27:13 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Waiting for Mailing List on list.ubunut.com
(03:27:14 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Waiting for Mailing List on list.ubunut.com
(03:27:44 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Develop Meeting Summary Responsibility Page
(03:27:45 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Develop Meeting Summary Responsibility Page
(03:28:13 PM) ausimage: [TOPIC] Review ways to raise interest
(03:28:14 PM) Mootbot: New topic:  Review ways to raise interest
(03:28:29 PM) Seeker`: I think all we can do is keep plugging it
(03:29:00 PM) ausimage: Yup... 
(03:29:17 PM) Seeker`: we have the slot in the loco meeting
(03:29:19 PM) AndrewWilliams: sorry i'm late guys, dinner over run
(03:29:22 PM) Seeker`: i dont see what else we can do
(03:29:33 PM) Seeker`: AndrewWilliams: We are just about done now
(03:29:41 PM) AndrewWilliams: sods law :)
(03:29:58 PM) ausimage: We are on Raising Interest
(03:30:26 PM) ausimage: [ACTION] Continue forward raising interest
(03:30:26 PM) ***Seeker` has to go now
(03:30:27 PM) Mootbot: ACTION received:  Continue forward raising interest
(03:30:28 PM) Seeker`: bye
(03:30:32 PM) ausimage: later
(03:30:59 PM) ausimage: OK... that is all that I have... any other business
(03:31:17 PM) ausimage: Alrighty then
(03:31:22 PM) ausimage: #endmeeting
(03:31:23 PM) Mootbot: Meeting finished at 20:31.


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