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Agenda

Items we will be discussing:

• Review ACTION points from previous meeting.

• Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap.

• Open Discussion.
• Agree on next meeting date and time.

Minutes

Server FAQ

nijaba reviewed the questions from the ServerFaQ. He added new ones at the bottom of the page. The next step is now to update the answers.

ACTION: mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap

ACTION: sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers

ACTION: kirkland to review the RAID related questions

Ideas for Jaunty

mathiaz reminded that ideas for Jaunty should be added to the ServerTeam IdeaPool page so that they can be reviewed and included in discussions for the next UDS.

Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, November 11th at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

Log

[16:00] <mathiaz> #startmeeting
[16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is mathiaz.
[16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:01] <mathiaz> Welcome to the first meeting of the Server Team in this new era of jauntyness!
[16:01] <mathiaz> Today's joyfull agenda can be found online at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:02] <nijaba> that's a tough agenda we have today
[16:02] <mathiaz> Last week's intrepid minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20081028
[16:02] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Server FAQ
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server FAQ
[16:03] <mathiaz> sommer: nijaba: how are things moving there?
[16:03] <nijaba> I worked a bit on the FAQ today
[16:03] <nijaba> there are about 2/3 of the questions that needs updating
[16:03] <sommer> I did some small updates last week, but it still needs work
[16:03] <nijaba> I have added (needs update) in their title
[16:04] <nijaba> I have also listed a few new questions at the end and a table of content
[16:04] <mathiaz> nijaba: great!
[16:04] <mathiaz> I'll add section to the roadmap covering the ServerFaQ
[16:05] <nijaba> kirkland: could you take care of updating the raid question?
[16:05] <mathiaz> [ACTION] mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:05] <MootBot> ACTION received:  mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:05] <kirkland> nijaba: url?
[16:05] <mathiaz> nijaba: is the list of questions to be updated finalized?
[16:05] <nijaba> kirkland: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq
[16:06] <mathiaz> nijaba: ie should we focus on reviewing the answer now?
[16:06] <nijaba> mathiaz: unless some other new questions are added, yes
[16:06] <nijaba> mathiaz: I think we can focus on the answers now, and work on them later if new questions appear
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: ok.
[16:07]  * nijaba thinks that the answer should be made unpersonal
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: are there other specific topics that need input from one of us (like kirkland for raid)
[16:07] <mathiaz> nijaba: ?
[16:08] <nijaba> mathiaz: soem of the question name people asking questions...
[16:08] <kirkland> nijaba: mathiaz: is this something that Launchpad Answers should be used for ?
[16:08] <mathiaz> kirkland: I don't think so. IIUC the FAQ is a generic FAQ
[16:08] <nijaba> mathiaz: not that I can think of, but will ask if sommer or I have pb answering them
[16:09] <nijaba> kirkland: I think it is nice to have a "controlled" page for a FAQ
[16:09] <mathiaz> kirkland: LP answers are more targeted at answering specific questions/user requests.
[16:09] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay
[16:09] <mathiaz> kirkland: moreover AFICT the server team is not using the LP answers.
[16:10] <nijaba> sommer: how do you want to split the work?
[16:10] <mathiaz> kirkland: or at least I don't know of anyone answering LP questions related to server topics.
[16:10] <sommer> nijaba: doesn't matter to me... I can start at the bottom and work up
[16:11] <nijaba> sommer: ok, I'll go the other way then :)
[16:11] <kirkland> mathiaz: k
[16:11] <mathiaz> [ACTION] sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers.
[16:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers.
[16:11] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:11] <MootBot> ACTION received:  kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:11] <mathiaz> nijaba: sommer: anything else on this topic?
[16:12] <nijaba> nope
[16:12] <sommer> nothing from me
[16:12] <mathiaz> ok - anything else regarding last week's minutes?
[16:13] <mathiaz> nope. Let's move on
[16:13] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Ideas for Jaunty
[16:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ideas for Jaunty
[16:13] <mathiaz> As you may have noticed we're preparing for another release of Ubuntu due in six months.
[16:13] <zul> yay!
[16:14] <mathiaz> UDS topics are being worked on.
[16:14] <mathiaz> If you've got new ideas, please add them to the ServerTeam IdeaPool.
[16:14] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/IdeaPool
[16:14] <mathiaz> I've also purged the Roadmap
[16:15] <mathiaz> There are some items which status I don't know.
[16:15] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Integration of SASL and Postfix
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  Integration of SASL and Postfix
[16:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: ^?
[16:15] <ivoks> right...
[16:15] <mathiaz> ivoks: is this still something being worked on/considered?
[16:15] <ivoks> i'll propose solutions for this problem in early dev. phase
[16:16] <ivoks> i'll have time next week
[16:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: ok - so it's still on the radar
[16:16] <ivoks> yes
[16:16] <mathiaz> ivoks: great.
[16:16] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Merges
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Merges
[16:16] <mathiaz> As of now, Jaunty is *not* opened.
[16:17] <mathiaz> The basic toolchain and packages are still be worked on.
[16:17] <mathiaz> The archive should probably open sometime this week. By then, we'll go back in merge mode!
[16:18] <soren> \o/
[16:19] <mathiaz> last time around, I was publishing a list of *easy* merges.
[16:19] <mathiaz> I was wondering if that was a good idea
[16:19] <mathiaz> what do other people thing about such a list?
[16:19] <sommer> I think it's a good idea :)
[16:19]  * soren too
[16:20] <ivoks> (don't have strong opinion :)
[16:20] <mathiaz> ok. I'll keep publishing such a list for this cycle then.
[16:20] <mathiaz> well - that's all I have.
[16:20] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open discussion
[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open discussion
[16:21]  * mathiaz leaves the floor to crazy ideas
[16:21] <zul> no crazy ideas from me this time
[16:21] <ivoks> accept dbconfig-common as a standard tool for databases :D
[16:21] <mathiaz> zul: you got burned by this whole FB story?
[16:22] <zul> mathiaz: i didnt get any emails about it thankfully :)
[16:22] <mathiaz> ivoks: isn't it already in main?
[16:22] <ivoks> mathiaz: it is, but my question is 'why we don't use it? and why did i remove it from bacula?' :)
[16:22] <zul> because it wasnt it main at the time
[16:22] <ivoks> it wasn't?
[16:23] <ivoks> ok then
[16:23] <ivoks> so, we could just re-merge it back?
[16:23] <zul> ivoks: pretty much
[16:23] <mathiaz> ivoks: probably yes :)
[16:23] <ivoks> praise the lord :)
[16:24] <zul> yes praise him indeed
[16:24] <mathiaz> ivoks: one of the debian devloper may be at UDS
[16:24] <zul> uds or fosscamp?
[16:24] <mathiaz> zul: don't know.
[16:25] <nijaba> mathiaz: do we know who's been invited now?  is there a list somewhere?
[16:25] <mathiaz> nijaba: there is a list *somewhere*. However I don't know where the *somewhere* is...
[16:26] <nijaba> www.perdu.com ?
[16:26] <soren> ?!?
[16:26] <ivoks> lol
[16:26] <sommer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSJaunty/Attendees
[16:27] <soren> "Lost on the Internet" or some such?
[16:27] <nijaba> soren: yes O<--- you are here
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: yes
[16:27] <soren> No, I'm not. I'm over there ---> *
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: don't panic, we're here to help you
[16:27] <ivoks> soren: * <---- you are here
[16:28] <ivoks> oh...
[16:28] <ivoks> :)
[16:28] <mathiaz> sommer: ok. These are mainly ubuntu members.
[16:29] <mathiaz> sommer: some upstream folks have also been invited (to Fooscamp and/or UDS)
[16:29] <ScottK> foos/foss
[16:29] <sommer> ohh, gotcha
[16:29] <ivoks> mathiaz: you'll meet kern, right?
[16:29] <mathiaz> ivoks: probably
[16:30] <ivoks> ok
[16:30] <mathiaz> allright - so I think that's all I have to say for today's meeting
[16:30] <mathiaz> I'll be running a session for OpenWeek in 1:30 hours
[16:31] <mathiaz> in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:31] <mathiaz> ie at 18:00 UTC
[16:31] <nijaba> mathiaz: break a leg
[16:31] <soren> mathiaz: About what?
[16:31] <ivoks> server team?
[16:31] <mathiaz> soren: the server team
[16:31] <ivoks> all right! more PR :D
[16:31] <soren> Awesome :)
[16:31] <mathiaz> what we did for the intrepid cycle and how to get involved
[16:32] <mathiaz> there are tons of other sessions and topics covered the whole week
[16:32] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek has more information
[16:33] <mathiaz> kirkland and soren are also running a session
[16:33] <mathiaz> Anything else to add?
[16:36] <mathiaz> seems not
[16:36] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agree on next meeting date and time
[16:36] <mathiaz> next week, same time, same place?
[16:37] <ivoks> this is better time, yes
[16:37] <sommer> works for me :)
[16:38] <mathiaz> ivoks: better time?
[16:38] <mathiaz> ivoks: it should be the same time as usual (last week being unusual)
[16:39] <ivoks> mathiaz: right - it's the same :D
[16:39] <mathiaz> ok - so see you all next week, same time in here.,
[16:39] <kirkland> adios!
[16:39] <mathiaz> Congratulations for intrepid
[16:39] <mathiaz> and welcome to Jaunty!
[16:39] <kirkland> \o/
[16:39] <sommer> later on all
[16:40] <mathiaz> #endmeeting
[16:40] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:40.