- Review ACTION points from previous meeting
- Oneiric Development
- Ubuntu Server Team Events
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
- Open Discussion
There were no actions identified during the meeting.
- Drafting on specs should be primary focus
- Secondary focus is merges
Ubuntu Server Team Events
Just wrapped up UDS Oneiric, No other events on the immediate horizon.
- Big changes in QA team structure going in place for Oneiric cycle
- Daily build PPA needs as many packages with test suites as possible
- smb has been looking into building the Amazon AMI's kernel for Ubuntu, smoser pointed him to the right place.
- iscsitarget is on the block for removal from the Ubuntu kernel tree and moving into a DKMS. adam_g will help smb work out the details.
- Server related kernel bugs should have the tag 'kernel-server'
Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
- Peer reviews are very much appreciated from any and all community members (Daviey)
- Also appreciated, test proposals, and SRU's, and ensemble formulas
Agree on next meeting date and time
Next meeting will be on Tuesday, May 24th at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
[17:03] <SpamapS> #startmeeting [17:03] <Daviey> which looks like smoser is next, or am i mistaken? [17:03] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:03. The chair is SpamapS. [17:03] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:03] <Daviey> SpamapS, good stuff. [17:03] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [17:03] <MootBot> New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [17:03] <SpamapS> there were none, moving on [17:04] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Oneiric Development [17:04] <MootBot> New Topic: Oneiric Development [17:04] <Daviey> Hello! [17:04] <Daviey> No doubt everyone is still recovering from the rather successful week at UDS in Budapest last week. [17:04] <Daviey> Whilst the sessions are still fresh in our mind, we need to turn to adding work items to the blueprints. We should strive to have a first draft of blueprints done by the end of the week. Some blueprints do not yet have a drafter assigned. Between myself and Robbie, these will be allocated amongst the team with a a best effort of fair and logical choice. [17:04] <smoser> (note, i did not send out meeting minutes after 2011-04-19, or add a meeitn page. i will do that now) [17:04] <SpamapS> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric [17:04] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric [17:04] <Daviey> I will send a mail outlining the hows and whys following the meeting. [17:04] <SpamapS> Totally worthless right now, but thought I'd share. [17:04] <Daviey> i know smoser will cry if i paste it here. [17:05] <Daviey> and when not spec'ing... merge, merge, merge! [17:06] <smoser> if only we had services that could take a paste and turn it into a link. [17:06] <Daviey> But blueprints our the priority right now :) [17:06] <smoser> or a tool that could do that from stdin [17:06] <SpamapS> and when not merging, triage! We're ridiculously behind [17:06] <Daviey> smoser, is that possible? [17:06] <Daviey> SpamapS, yes - well caught. [17:06] <SpamapS> Anything else? [17:06] <Daviey> That is all for now. Thanks. [17:07] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events [17:07] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu Server Team Events [17:07] <zul> SpamapS: it was more ridiculous yesterday morning [17:07] <SpamapS> zul: yes nice job hammering it down :) [17:07] <zul> and hallyn as well [17:08] <SpamapS> Since we were all at UDS .. anybody else going to be somewhere or think we should be somewhere in the next month or so? [17:09] <Daviey> not here, thank you :) [17:09] <zul> at home resting our livers [17:09] <SpamapS> Alright then [17:09] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [17:09] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [17:09] <SpamapS> hggdh: good morning! [17:09] <hggdh> good morning [17:10] <hggdh> we are still working on the changes for this cycle, so input on what we should test for is welcome [17:10] <SpamapS> hggdh: I'd be curious to hear how the build-time testing PPA that you had worked out last cycle. [17:10] <SpamapS> Meant to ask at UDS [17:11] <hggdh> it is there ;-) but we are not running a lot of builds [17:11] <Daviey> hggdh, Is it documented anywhere? [17:11] <hggdh> what we are looking for is to add in more packages with build-time checks (like, say, coreutils) [17:11] <hggdh> just a sec and I will get the current list [17:12] <SpamapS> I get a failure for pkgbinarymangler in my email quite often [17:12] <hggdh> yes -- have to talk with pitti about that, been in the backburner [17:12] <SpamapS> hggdh: shouldn't we be opening bugs for any failures we see? [17:13] <hggdh> we can -- perhaps we should, actually [17:13] <hggdh> so I will start doing it [17:13] <Daviey> hggdh, \o/ [17:13] <SpamapS> I would almost think we could automate it, except we're limited in what recipes can do. [17:13] <hggdh> I also have to update it for building on oneiric [17:14] <SpamapS> Cool, well anyway, anything else to report? Otherwise I think we'll move on. [17:14] * Daviey ^5's hggdh [17:15] <hggdh> move on, dear sir, move on. Just please note that we need more packages on the daily build [17:15] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [17:15] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [17:15] <smb> good tod [17:15] <smb> I would have two questions [17:16] <smb> One, to smoser, I was digging for the srpm for a amazon ami kernel. Does the get_reference_source command ring a bell to you? [17:16] <smoser> smb, yeah, i gave you that in the etherpad [17:16] <smoser> thats what you need to use [17:16] <smoser> that will get you an SRPM [17:17] <smb> smoser, damn missed that there somehow [17:17] <smb> Ok thanks [17:17] <smb> The other thing is iscsitarget [17:17] <Daviey> erk. [17:18] <smb> Currently there is two versions one ubuntu specific driver in the kernel and a dkms package. The kernel version currently does not compile (maybe got a fix there) and the dkms likely will fail on install [17:18] <smb> Probably first thing to ask, do we have hardware to test this thing? [17:18] <adam_g> which driver are we talkin about? ietd or the newer upstream generic target framework? [17:19] <smb> Second would be whether it being a dkms module would be sufficient, so we could drop the kernel one [17:19] <smb> iscsi_trgt.ko [17:19] <SpamapS> can't it be tested using tgt ? [17:20] <hggdh> (for the record: daily build for Natty: libvirt postgresql-8.4 mysql-5.1 openldap php5 python2.7 coreutils clamav cups gcc gdb pkgbinarymangler pkg-create-dbgsym) [17:20] * smb was hoping the server team knew how to test. :-P [17:20] <SpamapS> hggdh: ty [17:20] <adam_g> you can test using any block device/LV or raw file within a virtual machine [17:21] <smoser> smb, just forwarded you mention of this: https://silverline.librato.com/blog/main/EC2_Users_Should_be_Cautious_When_Booting_Ubuntu_10_04_AMIs [17:21] <smb> adam_g, Hm, ok. Maybe there is some simple howto for the setup...? [17:21] * Daviey fears adam_g just signed up to help test it :) [17:21] <smb> smoser, ookay... [17:21] <adam_g> smb: ive worked with it a bunch in the past, its very easy to setup (assuming we're talking about the same iscsi target) [17:21] <adam_g> sure, i can help [17:22] <zul> wait i thought tgt got promoted to main or something [17:22] <SpamapS> Filename: pool/main/t/tgt/tgt_1.0.13-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb [17:22] <smb> That would be cool [17:22] * zul shuts up [17:22] <Daviey> adam_g / smb (http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServeriSCSIRoot/KVMExample) [17:23] <SpamapS> smb: I had a general question about bugs that we think might be kernel related.. [17:23] <smb> zul, package seems in universe for oneiric still [17:23] <smb> SpamapS, Ok [17:23] <smb> Daviey, Thanks [17:23] * RoAkSoAx thinkgs that adam_g just signed up to write documentation and test it :) [17:23] <SpamapS> smb: thus far I've just added a task against the 'linux' source package and left it as New. Does that work within the kernel triaging framework? Like, will it ever be seen that way? [17:24] <smb> SpamapS, I started to use a tag to make them searchable for me and give JFo some hints. Reminds me that I need to tell him (and you now) which exactÃ¶ly [17:25] <adam_g> yes, i can help with iscsi testing/docs. im still a bit unclear as to which target we're using (im the new guy), since there a few [17:25] <SpamapS> smb: if you don't have the tag list handy, you can send it to me offline later and I'll include it in the minutes. [17:26] <smb> SpamapS, Here it is, I user kernel-server [17:26] <smb> used even [17:26] <SpamapS> adam_g: you can always assert which one you think we *should* be using. [17:26] <SpamapS> smb: ty [17:26] <SpamapS> ok, moving on? [17:26] <adam_g> SpamapS: certainly [17:26] <smb> Ok, I think I got a lot to work on [17:27] <smb> adam_g, Will come back to you in case I need more info. :) [17:27] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [17:27] <MootBot> New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community [17:27] <adam_g> smb: yeah, id like to find out which the kernel team prefers, as theres been a lot of work in this area upstream the last couple of kernels [17:28] <Daviey> For community... [17:28] <Daviey> Just a note that peer reviews of blueprints will be appreciated. [17:29] <hggdh> and test proposals ;-) [17:29] <Daviey> Yes! [17:29] <zul> and SRUs [17:29] <Daviey> and ensemble recipies :) [17:29] <SpamapS> Pretty much anything short of insults to our mothers will be appreciated. :) [17:29] <Daviey> This cycle we should see more interaction, and areas of oppertunity. [17:29] <zul> we are that easy :) [17:30] <SpamapS> I think we should also start thinking about acknowledging just how much of the Debian Development effort is centered around servers, and therefore, part of our community. [17:31] <SpamapS> Anything else? [17:31] <Daviey> not here. [17:31] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Open Discussion [17:31] <MootBot> New Topic: Open Discussion [17:32] * Daviey waves to adam_g [17:32] <SpamapS> Great UDS everybody! [17:32] <SpamapS> hallyn_: you were missed. [17:32] <zul> next time ill tape the demo [17:32] <Daviey> adam_g is the newest member of the team, and is shortly going to show us how awesome he is. [17:32] * SpamapS covers his eyes [17:32] <Daviey> zul, it was recorded. [17:32] <adam_g> hi [17:32] <adam_g> :) [17:32] <zul> Daviey: seriously? [17:33] <Daviey> zul, yeah, i thought they all were. [17:33] <SpamapS> All plenaries are taped [17:33] <Daviey> look out on youtube. [17:33] <zul> oh...shoot :) [17:33] <Daviey> http://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers <-- keep and eye out for our own zul [17:33] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [17:33] <MootBot> New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [17:34] <SpamapS> Tuesday, May 24th 2011 16:00 UTC [17:34] <SpamapS> See you all there! [17:34] <smoser> just an fyi, was reported to have been on my flight home. [17:34] <smoser> err... "JAMES PAGE" was reported to have beeen on that flight. [17:34] <SpamapS> smoser: REALLY [17:34] <adam_g> confirmed [17:34] <SpamapS> OMG [17:34] <SpamapS> Thanks everybody [17:34] <SpamapS> #endmeeting