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20120904

Meeting started by SpamapS at 16:05:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-04-16.05.log.html .

Meeting summary

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

ACTION: smoser follow up on bug 1028453 (SpamapS, 16:08:25)

Quantal Development

Ubuntu Server Team Events
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
Open Discussion
Announce next meeting date and time

Meeting ended at 16:53:10 UTC.

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smoser follow up on bug 1028453
jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports

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jamespage
* jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
smoser
* smoser follow up on bug 1028453

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SpamapS (84)
arosales (51)
jamespage (14)
smoser (10)
ubottu (10)
hggdh (7)
m_3 (6)
meetingology (5)
zul (4)
smb (3)
adam_g (3)
utlemming (2)
hallyn (2)
rbasak (1)

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16:05:54 <SpamapS> #startmeeting Server Team
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16:06:04 <SpamapS> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:06:11 <SpamapS> smoser follow up on bug 1028453
16:06:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453
16:06:15 <arosales> SpamapS: thanks
16:06:21 <SpamapS> arosales update IRCComands for Quantal dev
16:06:26 <arosales> done
16:06:30 <SpamapS> arosales to follow up with hggdh and QA team on Server IRC contact
16:07:13 * hggdh pops up & pays attention
16:07:15 <smoser> i poked a bit on that. it really seems like test case issue/assumption
16:07:34 <hggdh> I agree. But the size grew, no matter what
16:07:36 <smoser> its too big because we're not getting the '-virtual' kernel installed.
16:07:44 <smoser> but i'm not sure what lead to that.
16:07:53 <smoser> well, its somehwere in the kernel transition
16:08:01 <smoser> but it really seemed like they did that right when i looked a bit.
16:08:03 <arosales> hggdh: hello, to confirm are you the correct contact for QA for our weekly meetings here?
16:08:07 <hggdh> there is no -virtual anymore. And there is the additional -extras package
16:08:11 <SpamapS> smoser: so, carry forward?
16:08:14 <smoser> anyway, at least a significant portion of "too big" is due to kernel.
16:08:17 <smoser> sure.
16:08:19 <smoser> carried.
16:08:25 <SpamapS> #action smoser follow up on bug 1028453 16:08:25 * meetingology smoser follow up on bug 1028453
16:08:26 <hggdh> arosales: yes, indeed. Was on holiday until yesterday
16:08:27 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453
16:08:52 <SpamapS> arosales to update events to include CFP
16:08:56 <arosales> hggdh: as was I :-). Just wanted to confirm
16:08:56 <SpamapS> I see thats done in the agenda
16:09:12 <SpamapS> #topic Quantal Development
16:09:29 <arosales> SpamapS: I am also going to work on building out a wiki table that folks can update, but start with at least a reminder in the agenda.
16:09:40 <SpamapS> cool
16:09:55 <arosales> hggdh: thanks for all the server QA help
16:09:57 <SpamapS> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:10:12 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033
16:10:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040033 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "Fresh VM installs via preseeded oneiric isos sometimes fail with filesystem issues" [Critical,Triaged]
16:10:19 <SpamapS> unassigned
16:10:55 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203
16:10:56 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1025203 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Trying to overwrite '/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini', which is also in package quantum-server" [High,Fix committed]
16:11:07 <SpamapS> zul: all good for next upload?
16:11:17 <zul> SpamapS: working on it now
16:11:56 <SpamapS> hallyn: the qemu-kvm one seems like something maybe you'd be interested in?
16:12:08 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453
16:12:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed]
16:12:19 <SpamapS> already discussed
16:12:38 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285
16:12:39 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 995285 in nova (Ubuntu Quantal) "if /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers is removed, upgrades fail" [Low,Triaged]
16:13:06 <SpamapS> somebody should probably take ownership of that
16:13:08 <SpamapS> zul: ?
16:13:10 <SpamapS> adam_g: ?
16:13:17 <adam_g> SpamapS: gimme
16:13:20 <adam_g> ill assign myself
16:13:24 <SpamapS> werd
16:13:31 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281
16:13:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1024281 in python-glanceclient (Ubuntu) "Bug during installation. conflicts: python-glanceclient + glance-client" [Undecided,Confirmed]
16:13:43 <zul> daviey said he was going to do that
16:14:01 <SpamapS> adam_g: That sounds like 'Critical' ?
16:14:30 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229
16:14:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1044229 in maas (Ubuntu) "DHCP config doesn't get written unless an inhuman combination of scripts is run" [Undecided,New] 16:15:10 * SpamapS feels like Ben Stein
16:15:15 <SpamapS> anyone? anyone?
16:15:51 <SpamapS> at least lets triage it before we put it on our release tracking
16:16:07 <adam_g> SpamapS: RE glanceclient, i was waiting on upstream to determine how they're going to handle the migration between clients. since it appears not high on their list, i'll see about pulling the trigger in our packaging and making the migration in ubuntu the default
16:16:27 <SpamapS> adam_g: sweet
16:17:03 <SpamapS> unless somebody wants to bring up any other bugs, we'll move on to BP's
16:17:16 <jamespage> o/
16:17:33 <jamespage> actually I do want to bring something up about release tracking bug
16:17:37 <SpamapS> bring it
16:18:04 <jamespage> we are a little out of alignment with the report that the release team are using for tracking bugs
16:18:06 <jamespage> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
16:18:21 <jamespage> there is a specific server section; I have been reviewing over the last few days
16:18:51 <jamespage> basically anything with a quantal task in the ubuntu-server packageset gets on that list
16:19:26 <SpamapS> That seems more natural
16:19:27 <jamespage> really a FYI for the moment; we need to figure out how to align the two things (which I will pickup)
16:20:09 <arosales> jamespage: perhaps integration with Ursinha new bug reports?
16:20:15 <SpamapS> #action jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports 16:20:15 * meetingology jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
16:20:16 <jamespage> maybe
16:20:19 <jamespage> ta
16:20:21 <arosales> I guess these bugs are more tag related
16:20:30 <arosales> jamespage: thanks for brining this up
16:20:40 <SpamapS> These bugs here all need addressing or they wouldn't have a quantal task
16:21:36 <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154
16:21:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1027154 in maas (Ubuntu Quantal) "Unable to look up a node based on mac address" [High,Triaged]
16:21:45 <SpamapS> That probably needs an assignee
16:22:01 <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410
16:22:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 967410 in samba (Ubuntu Quantal) "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,Confirmed]
16:22:07 <SpamapS> that too
16:22:17 <jamespage> SpamapS, I'm on that - its not actually confirmed IMHO
16:22:22 <SpamapS> Ahh ok
16:22:34 <SpamapS> yeah I'm not going to worry about New's or less than High then
16:23:06 <zul> jamespage: <-- loves samba 16:23:13 * jamespage falls off his chair
16:23:17 <SpamapS> a lot of the juju bugs there were opened as quantal tasks assuming juju would re-try for main in quantal so they can probably be 'wont fixed'
16:23:36 <SpamapS> shall we move on to BP's?
16:23:50 <jamespage> OK - as this is a new list that not everyone will have looked at please can I suggest people take a look
16:23:56 <jamespage> SpamapS, please do
16:24:15 <SpamapS> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
16:24:19 <SpamapS> so it is remembered
16:24:22 <SpamapS> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 16:24:28 * SpamapS does not know how to work the bot
16:24:30 <SpamapS> ok
16:24:38 <SpamapS> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html
16:25:05 <arosales> Looks like we have gone into the red for servercloud-q blueprints
16:25:11 <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html
16:25:26 <SpamapS> Yeah its time to start hammering on the postponed
16:25:37 <arosales> SpamapS: should we quickly go over the high/essentials in the red?
16:25:38 <SpamapS> do it now so people don't hold out hope
16:25:53 <SpamapS> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html
16:25:54 <arosales> +1 be nice to let folks know what wont be landing
16:26:04 <SpamapS> That one in particular needs a lot
16:26:34 <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
16:26:56 <SpamapS> Ursinha: Perhaps some of these aren't going to happen?
16:27:18 <jamespage> sorry - that one is a little stalled ATM - Ursinha and I have been looking at bugs/fixes to the gravity reports to replace everything
16:29:05 <arosales> Daviey: zul: adam_g: openstack blueprints progressing ok?
16:29:16 <arosales> 27% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
16:29:20 <zul> i think so...ill update them today if they need to
16:29:33 <arosales> 36% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom
16:29:52 <arosales> 24% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable
16:30:21 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm
16:30:27 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
16:30:44 <arosales> I know a lot of these have to land later in the cycle
16:31:03 <arosales> ARM on openstack looks to be coming along.
16:32:38 <arosales> SpamapS: I think we are going to work on trying to sync up with the juju team on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
16:32:59 <arosales> utlemming: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-jenkins-cloud-builder progressing?
16:33:11 <utlemming> arosales: 100%
16:33:13 <arosales> I think the initial build server is live, correct?
16:33:25 <arosales> utlemming: blueprint @ 44% though
16:33:25 <SpamapS> arosales: the release policy stuff is in progress.. I'm not worried about those last items getting done
16:33:37 <arosales> SpamapS: ok, thanks.
16:33:39 <utlemming> arosales: just changed
16:33:57 <arosales> utlemming: ok, thanks.
16:34:16 <arosales> SpamapS: you also feel ok about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
16:34:59 <m_3> I think we nailed a lot of that week before last... somebody's gotta update the bp
16:35:02 <arosales> SpamapS: as well as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
16:35:38 <arosales> hallyn: you feel comfortable with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc for beta1?
16:35:40 <m_3> arosales: biggest prob with that bp atm is a vague "unit tests for flagship charms"...
16:35:54 <SpamapS> arosales: for the most part yes. I need to sync back up with everybody on the unit tests, but I think its basically ready.
16:36:03 <arosales> SpamapS: ok
16:36:10 <hallyn> looking
16:36:26 <arosales> m_3: ya we just defined the flagship charms . .
16:36:32 <arosales> m_3 a unit test is a unit test, correct
16:36:43 <hallyn> arosales: yes. i will postpone user namespaces doc item
16:36:45 <arosales> or was that additional testing for those flagship charms 16:36:52 * arosales will follow up with m_3 offline
16:36:58 <arosales> hallyn: thanks for taking a look
16:37:06 <arosales> and last one
16:37:17 <arosales> smoser: you feel ok with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils for beta2?
16:37:31 <arosales> I guess beta 2 gives us some more time.
16:37:38 <m_3> arosales: was embedded '/tests' for each charm
16:38:05 <arosales> m_3: gotcha, so getting some more tests for those "flagship" charms.
16:38:21 <arosales> perhaps just getting one test for a good charm would be a good example for that work item
16:38:41 <arosales> SpamapS: sorry to highjack, back to you.
16:39:26 <SpamapS> arosales: oh no, thank *you*
16:39:32 <m_3> arosales: will update accordingly.. .thanks
16:39:36 <SpamapS> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:39:48 <SpamapS> Its September!
16:39:51 <smoser> arosales, willl look
16:40:04 <arosales> smoser: thanks
16:40:13 <arosales> m_3: thanks
16:40:35 <arosales> SpamapS: cloud open go ok?
16:40:55 <SpamapS> I will be talking about Juju at the San Gabriel Valley Linux Users Group, Sep 13 http://www.sgvlug.org/meetings/2012/09/13/cloning_sysadmins_with_the_cloud_and_juju
16:41:00 <SpamapS> CloudOpen was great
16:41:15 <SpamapS> attendance felt a bit light..
16:41:29 <arosales> hmm interesting
16:41:33 <arosales> jimbaker also said he got good interest at the UCAR Seminar
16:41:36 <SpamapS> but lots of smart people there
16:41:49 <SpamapS> discovered this: http://linux-ha.org/source-doc/assimilation/html/index.html .. which is cool
16:41:56 <SpamapS> Anyway, CFP's.. anybody?
16:42:19 <SpamapS> I think September may be light on events
16:42:23 <SpamapS> everybody heading back to school and all
16:42:38 <m_3> btw, linuxplumbers went off without a hitch... driven by juju!
16:42:38 <arosales> I think folks already submitted some papers for surge
16:42:45 <SpamapS> m_3: right!
16:42:45 <arosales> m_3: woot!
16:42:53 <arosales> m_3: thanks for helping charm that and keep it going
16:43:09 <SpamapS> Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
16:43:11 <SpamapS> oops
16:43:14 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:43:19 * m_3 fleshed out some more "juju in production" best practices from it
16:43:23 <hggdh> \o
16:44:07 <hggdh> since I just returned from a long holiday, and am also with a sinus & throat infection, I do not have anything to show right now. But I DO accept questions
16:44:16 <hggdh> ..
16:45:25 <arosales> get to feeling better hggdh
16:45:54 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
16:46:01 <smb> Since I have been on conferences last week there isn't much I think to be reported here. smoser and me would discuss the cd size issue later on. Are there questions/issues others want to bring up?
16:46:04 <smb> ..
16:46:41 <SpamapS> smb: craving one of those california burritos yet?
16:46:54 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
16:46:59 <smoser> smb, i'll ping you in a bit
16:47:04 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
16:47:23 <smb> SpamapS, I did not have too many of them, so I am not to bad.
16:51:26 <SpamapS> oops sorry
16:51:34 <SpamapS> #topic Open Discussion
16:51:41 <SpamapS> thought I had pasted that already :p
16:52:09 <SpamapS> going once
16:52:24 <SpamapS> going twice
16:52:42 <SpamapS> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
16:52:57 <SpamapS> Next Tuesday, September 11, 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting
16:53:10 <SpamapS> #endmeeting

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