Meeting started by SpamapS at 16:05:54 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-04-16.05.log.html .

Meeting summary

  • Review ACTION points from previous meeting

ACTION: smoser follow up on bug 1028453 (SpamapS, 16:08:25)

  • Quantal Development

LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033 (SpamapS, 16:10:12) LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203 (SpamapS, 16:10:55) LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453 (SpamapS, 16:12:08) LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285 (SpamapS, 16:12:38) LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281 (SpamapS, 16:13:31) LINK: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229 (SpamapS, 16:14:30) LINK: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (jamespage, 16:18:06) ACTION: jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports (SpamapS, 16:20:15) LINK: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154 (SpamapS, 16:21:36) LINK: http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410 (SpamapS, 16:22:01) LINK: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (SpamapS, 16:24:15) LINK: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html (SpamapS, 16:24:22) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html (arosales, 16:25:11) LINK: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html (SpamapS, 16:25:53) LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review (SpamapS, 16:26:34) LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm (arosales, 16:30:21) LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha (arosales, 16:30:27)

  • Ubuntu Server Team Events
  • Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)

  • Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

  • Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

  • Open Discussion
  • Announce next meeting date and time

Meeting ended at 16:53:10 UTC.


Action items

  • smoser follow up on bug 1028453
  • jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports

Action items, by person

  • jamespage
  • * jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
  • smoser
  • * smoser follow up on bug 1028453

People present (lines said)

  • SpamapS (84)
  • arosales (51)
  • jamespage (14)
  • smoser (10)
  • ubottu (10)
  • hggdh (7)
  • m_3 (6)
  • meetingology (5)
  • zul (4)
  • smb (3)
  • adam_g (3)
  • utlemming (2)
  • hallyn (2)
  • rbasak (1)

Full Log

  • 16:05:54 <SpamapS> #startmeeting Server Team

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    16:06:04 <SpamapS> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

    16:06:11 <SpamapS> smoser follow up on bug 1028453

    16:06:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453

    16:06:15 <arosales> SpamapS: thanks Smile :-)

    16:06:21 <SpamapS> arosales update IRCComands for Quantal dev

    16:06:26 <arosales> done

    16:06:30 <SpamapS> arosales to follow up with hggdh and QA team on Server IRC contact

    16:07:13 * hggdh pops up & pays attention

    16:07:15 <smoser> i poked a bit on that. it really seems like test case issue/assumption

    16:07:34 <hggdh> I agree. But the size grew, no matter what

    16:07:36 <smoser> its too big because we're not getting the '-virtual' kernel installed.

    16:07:44 <smoser> but i'm not sure what lead to that.

    16:07:53 <smoser> well, its somehwere in the kernel transition

    16:08:01 <smoser> but it really seemed like they did that right when i looked a bit.

    16:08:03 <arosales> hggdh: hello, to confirm are you the correct contact for QA for our weekly meetings here?

    16:08:07 <hggdh> there is no -virtual anymore. And there is the additional -extras package

    16:08:11 <SpamapS> smoser: so, carry forward?

    16:08:14 <smoser> anyway, at least a significant portion of "too big" is due to kernel.

    16:08:17 <smoser> sure.

    16:08:19 <smoser> carried.

    16:08:25 <SpamapS> #action smoser follow up on bug 1028453 16:08:25 * meetingology smoser follow up on bug 1028453

    16:08:26 <hggdh> arosales: yes, indeed. Was on holiday until yesterday

    16:08:27 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453

    16:08:52 <SpamapS> arosales to update events to include CFP

    16:08:56 <arosales> hggdh: as was I :-). Just wanted to confirm Smile :-)

    16:08:56 <SpamapS> I see thats done in the agenda Smile :)

    16:09:12 <SpamapS> #topic Quantal Development

    16:09:29 <arosales> SpamapS: I am also going to work on building out a wiki table that folks can update, but start with at least a reminder in the agenda.

    16:09:40 <SpamapS> cool

    16:09:55 <arosales> hggdh: thanks for all the server QA help Smile :-)

    16:09:57 <SpamapS> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html

    16:10:12 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040033

    16:10:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1040033 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "Fresh VM installs via preseeded oneiric isos sometimes fail with filesystem issues" [Critical,Triaged]

    16:10:19 <SpamapS> unassigned

    16:10:55 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203

    16:10:56 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1025203 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Trying to overwrite '/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini', which is also in package quantum-server" [High,Fix committed]

    16:11:07 <SpamapS> zul: all good for next upload?

    16:11:17 <zul> SpamapS: working on it now

    16:11:56 <SpamapS> hallyn: the qemu-kvm one seems like something maybe you'd be interested in?

    16:12:08 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028453

    16:12:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed]

    16:12:19 <SpamapS> already discussed

    16:12:38 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/995285

    16:12:39 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 995285 in nova (Ubuntu Quantal) "if /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers is removed, upgrades fail" [Low,Triaged]

    16:13:06 <SpamapS> somebody should probably take ownership of that

    16:13:08 <SpamapS> zul: ?

    16:13:10 <SpamapS> adam_g: ?

    16:13:17 <adam_g> SpamapS: gimme

    16:13:20 <adam_g> ill assign myself

    16:13:24 <SpamapS> werd

    16:13:31 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024281

    16:13:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1024281 in python-glanceclient (Ubuntu) "Bug during installation. conflicts: python-glanceclient + glance-client" [Undecided,Confirmed]

    16:13:43 <zul> daviey said he was going to do that

    16:14:01 <SpamapS> adam_g: That sounds like 'Critical' ?

    16:14:30 <SpamapS> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044229

    16:14:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1044229 in maas (Ubuntu) "DHCP config doesn't get written unless an inhuman combination of scripts is run" [Undecided,New] 16:15:10 * SpamapS feels like Ben Stein

    16:15:15 <SpamapS> anyone? anyone?

    16:15:51 <SpamapS> at least lets triage it before we put it on our release tracking

    16:16:07 <adam_g> SpamapS: RE glanceclient, i was waiting on upstream to determine how they're going to handle the migration between clients. since it appears not high on their list, i'll see about pulling the trigger in our packaging and making the migration in ubuntu the default

    16:16:27 <SpamapS> adam_g: sweet

    16:17:03 <SpamapS> unless somebody wants to bring up any other bugs, we'll move on to BP's

    16:17:16 <jamespage> o/

    16:17:33 <jamespage> actually I do want to bring something up about release tracking bug

    16:17:37 <SpamapS> bring it

    16:18:04 <jamespage> we are a little out of alignment with the report that the release team are using for tracking bugs

    16:18:06 <jamespage> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html

    16:18:21 <jamespage> there is a specific server section; I have been reviewing over the last few days

    16:18:51 <jamespage> basically anything with a quantal task in the ubuntu-server packageset gets on that list

    16:19:26 <SpamapS> That seems more natural

    16:19:27 <jamespage> really a FYI for the moment; we need to figure out how to align the two things (which I will pickup)

    16:20:09 <arosales> jamespage: perhaps integration with Ursinha new bug reports?

    16:20:15 <SpamapS> #action jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports 16:20:15 * meetingology jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports

    16:20:16 <jamespage> maybe

    16:20:19 <jamespage> ta

    16:20:21 <arosales> I guess these bugs are more tag related

    16:20:30 <arosales> jamespage: thanks for brining this up

    16:20:40 <SpamapS> These bugs here all need addressing or they wouldn't have a quantal task

    16:21:36 <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1027154

    16:21:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1027154 in maas (Ubuntu Quantal) "Unable to look up a node based on mac address" [High,Triaged]

    16:21:45 <SpamapS> That probably needs an assignee

    16:22:01 <SpamapS> http://launchpad.net/bugs/967410

    16:22:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 967410 in samba (Ubuntu Quantal) "Windows clients cannot connect to shared printers " [High,Confirmed]

    16:22:07 <SpamapS> that too

    16:22:17 <jamespage> SpamapS, I'm on that - its not actually confirmed IMHO

    16:22:22 <SpamapS> Ahh ok

    16:22:34 <SpamapS> yeah I'm not going to worry about New's or less than High then

    16:23:06 <zul> jamespage: <-- loves samba 16:23:13 * jamespage falls off his chair

    16:23:17 <SpamapS> a lot of the juju bugs there were opened as quantal tasks assuming juju would re-try for main in quantal so they can probably be 'wont fixed'

    16:23:36 <SpamapS> shall we move on to BP's?

    16:23:50 <jamespage> OK - as this is a new list that not everyone will have looked at please can I suggest people take a look

    16:23:56 <jamespage> SpamapS, please do

    16:24:15 <SpamapS> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html

    16:24:19 <SpamapS> so it is remembered

    16:24:22 <SpamapS> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 16:24:28 * SpamapS does not know how to work the bot

    16:24:30 <SpamapS> ok

    16:24:38 <SpamapS> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html

    16:25:05 <arosales> Looks like we have gone into the red for servercloud-q blueprints

    16:25:11 <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html

    16:25:26 <SpamapS> Yeah its time to start hammering on the postponed

    16:25:37 <arosales> SpamapS: should we quickly go over the high/essentials in the red?

    16:25:38 <SpamapS> do it now so people don't hold out hope Smile :)

    16:25:53 <SpamapS> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-hardening.html

    16:25:54 <arosales> +1 be nice to let folks know what wont be landing

    16:26:04 <SpamapS> That one in particular needs a lot

    16:26:34 <SpamapS> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review

    16:26:56 <SpamapS> Ursinha: Perhaps some of these aren't going to happen?

    16:27:18 <jamespage> sorry - that one is a little stalled ATM - Ursinha and I have been looking at bugs/fixes to the gravity reports to replace everything

    16:29:05 <arosales> Daviey: zul: adam_g: openstack blueprints progressing ok?

    16:29:16 <arosales> 27% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa

    16:29:20 <zul> i think so...ill update them today if they need to

    16:29:33 <arosales> 36% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom

    16:29:52 <arosales> 24% https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable

    16:30:21 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-deployment-on-arm

    16:30:27 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha

    16:30:44 <arosales> I know a lot of these have to land later in the cycle

    16:31:03 <arosales> ARM on openstack looks to be coming along.

    16:32:38 <arosales> SpamapS: I think we are going to work on trying to sync up with the juju team on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy

    16:32:59 <arosales> utlemming: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-jenkins-cloud-builder progressing?

    16:33:11 <utlemming> arosales: 100%

    16:33:13 <arosales> I think the initial build server is live, correct?

    16:33:25 <arosales> utlemming: blueprint @ 44% though

    16:33:25 <SpamapS> arosales: the release policy stuff is in progress.. I'm not worried about those last items getting done

    16:33:37 <arosales> SpamapS: ok, thanks.

    16:33:39 <utlemming> arosales: just changed

    16:33:57 <arosales> utlemming: ok, thanks.

    16:34:16 <arosales> SpamapS: you also feel ok about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices

    16:34:59 <m_3> I think we nailed a lot of that week before last... somebody's gotta update the bp

    16:35:02 <arosales> SpamapS: as well as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests

    16:35:38 <arosales> hallyn: you feel comfortable with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-lxc for beta1?

    16:35:40 <m_3> arosales: biggest prob with that bp atm is a vague "unit tests for flagship charms"...

    16:35:54 <SpamapS> arosales: for the most part yes. I need to sync back up with everybody on the unit tests, but I think its basically ready.

    16:36:03 <arosales> SpamapS: ok

    16:36:10 <hallyn> looking

    16:36:26 <arosales> m_3: ya we just defined the flagship charms . .

    16:36:32 <arosales> m_3 a unit test is a unit test, correct

    16:36:43 <hallyn> arosales: yes. i will postpone user namespaces doc item

    16:36:45 <arosales> or was that additional testing for those flagship charms 16:36:52 * arosales will follow up with m_3 offline

    16:36:58 <arosales> hallyn: thanks for taking a look

    16:37:06 <arosales> and last one

    16:37:17 <arosales> smoser: you feel ok with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils for beta2?

    16:37:31 <arosales> I guess beta 2 gives us some more time.

    16:37:38 <m_3> arosales: was embedded '/tests' for each charm

    16:38:05 <arosales> m_3: gotcha, so getting some more tests for those "flagship" charms.

    16:38:21 <arosales> perhaps just getting one test for a good charm would be a good example for that work item

    16:38:41 <arosales> SpamapS: sorry to highjack, back to you.

    16:39:26 <SpamapS> arosales: oh no, thank *you*

    16:39:32 <m_3> arosales: will update accordingly.. .thanks

    16:39:36 <SpamapS> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

    16:39:48 <SpamapS> Its September!

    16:39:51 <smoser> arosales, willl look

    16:40:04 <arosales> smoser: thanks

    16:40:13 <arosales> m_3: thanks Smile :-)

    16:40:35 <arosales> SpamapS: cloud open go ok?

    16:40:55 <SpamapS> I will be talking about Juju at the San Gabriel Valley Linux Users Group, Sep 13 http://www.sgvlug.org/meetings/2012/09/13/cloning_sysadmins_with_the_cloud_and_juju

    16:41:00 <SpamapS> CloudOpen was great

    16:41:15 <SpamapS> attendance felt a bit light..

    16:41:29 <arosales> hmm interesting

    16:41:33 <arosales> jimbaker also said he got good interest at the UCAR Seminar

    16:41:36 <SpamapS> but lots of smart people there

    16:41:49 <SpamapS> discovered this: http://linux-ha.org/source-doc/assimilation/html/index.html .. which is cool

    16:41:56 <SpamapS> Anyway, CFP's.. anybody?

    16:42:19 <SpamapS> I think September may be light on events

    16:42:23 <SpamapS> everybody heading back to school and all

    16:42:38 <m_3> btw, linuxplumbers went off without a hitch... driven by juju!

    16:42:38 <arosales> I think folks already submitted some papers for surge

    16:42:45 <SpamapS> m_3: right!

    16:42:45 <arosales> m_3: woot!

    16:42:53 <arosales> m_3: thanks for helping charm that and keep it going

    16:43:09 <SpamapS> Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)

    16:43:11 <SpamapS> oops

    16:43:14 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:43:19 * m_3 fleshed out some more "juju in production" best practices from it

    16:43:23 <hggdh> \o

    16:44:07 <hggdh> since I just returned from a long holiday, and am also with a sinus & throat infection, I do not have anything to show right now. But I DO accept questions Smile :-)

    16:44:16 <hggdh> ..

    16:45:25 <arosales> get to feeling better hggdh

    16:45:54 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

    16:46:01 <smb> Since I have been on conferences last week there isn't much I think to be reported here. smoser and me would discuss the cd size issue later on. Are there questions/issues others want to bring up?

    16:46:04 <smb> ..

    16:46:41 <SpamapS> smb: craving one of those california burritos yet? Wink ;-)

    16:46:54 <SpamapS> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

    16:46:59 <smoser> smb, i'll ping you in a bit

    16:47:04 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?

    16:47:23 <smb> SpamapS, I did not have too many of them, so I am not to bad. Smile :)

    16:51:26 <SpamapS> oops sorry

    16:51:34 <SpamapS> #topic Open Discussion

    16:51:41 <SpamapS> thought I had pasted that already :p

    16:52:09 <SpamapS> going once

    16:52:24 <SpamapS> going twice

    16:52:42 <SpamapS> #topic Announce next meeting date and time

    16:52:57 <SpamapS> Next Tuesday, September 11, 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting

    16:53:10 <SpamapS> #endmeeting

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