20130709

Agenda

Minutes

Meeting information

Meeting summary

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:00.

Saucy Development

The discussion about "Saucy Development" started at 16:04.

Ubuntu Server Team Events

The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:29.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)" started at 16:33.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)" started at 16:35.

Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)" started at 16:36.

Open Discussion

The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:37.

Announce next meeting date and time

The discussion about "Announce next meeting date and time" started at 16:39.

Vote results

Action items

  • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

Action items, by person

  • Daviey
    • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • rbasak
    • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • zul
    • zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

People present (lines said)

  • Daviey (53)
  • yolanda (37)
  • rbasak (14)
  • jamespage (13)
  • ubottu (8)
  • arosales (6)
  • psivaa (6)
  • zul (5)
  • meetingology (5)
  • smoser (4)
  • doko (3)
  • smb (2)
  • adam_g (2)
  • roaksoax (1)

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  • 16:00 <yolanda> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team

    16:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 9 16:00:13 2013 UTC. The chair is yolanda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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    16:00 <Daviey> o/

    16:00 <yolanda> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

    16:00 <yolanda> arosales to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase for meeting of 25 June

    16:01 <yolanda> any update?

    16:01 <jamespage> o/

    16:02 <roaksoax> o/

    16:02 <yolanda> Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion

    16:03 <Daviey> yolanda: 25 June still not done. I'll work with arosales after this

    16:03 <Daviey> yolanda: I haven't spoken to percona this week. Will do THIS week

    16:04 <yolanda> ok, let's leave as pending then

    16:04 <yolanda> any other pending topics?

    16:04 <Daviey> Nope

    16:04 <yolanda> #topic Saucy Development

    16:04 <yolanda> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule

    16:05 <yolanda> #subtopic Release Bugs

    16:05 <yolanda> Daviey, any update with that?

    16:05 <arosales> sorry, joined a little late

    16:05 <arosales> here now

    16:05 <Daviey> First.. the Release Schedule

    16:05 <Daviey> DebianImportFreeze / Alpha2ish

    16:05 <Daviey> Would be good to be up to date on sync's and merges for then.

    16:06 <Daviey> rbasak has graciously fixed my delta report

    16:06 <arosales> yolanda, I think rbasak put in a new process that he is carrying forward. I will ensure the wiki has the minutes from my chair'ing for historical reasons

    16:06 <Daviey> http://people.canonical.com/~rbasak/delta.html

    16:06 <rbasak> Note: I haven't cronned that. I generated it earlier.

    16:06 <Daviey> We should try over this next week to reduce our delta with Debian

    16:07 <yolanda> rbasak, are you doing something automatic?

    16:07 <Daviey> #ACTION rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy 16:07 * meetingology rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy

    16:07 <rbasak> yolanda: I intend to, but I haven't done it yet.

    16:07 <rbasak> ack

    16:08 <yolanda> i could help a bit with merges and syncs this week also

    16:08 <jamespage> Daviey, +1 to that

    16:09 <Daviey> Shall we look at, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server

    16:09 <Daviey> bug 1124384

    16:09 <ubottu> bug 1124384 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Saucy) "Configuration reload clears event that others jobs may be waiting on" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124384

    16:09 <Daviey> smoser: Are we expecting a cloud-init upload soon?

    16:09 <smoser> yes.

    16:09 <Daviey> I noticed that Debian is carrying a delta

    16:10 <smoser> that one is fixed in raring ..

    16:10 <smoser> oh?

    16:10 <Daviey> smoser: http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/cloud-init/cloud-init_0.7.2-1_changelog

    16:11 <Daviey> Might be worth checking if we can fold anything interesting

    16:11 <Daviey> bug 1196921

    16:11 <ubottu> bug 1196921 in vim (Ubuntu Saucy) "updating packages to lua5.2 in main" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196921

    16:11 <smoser> yeah. thanks.

    16:12 <Daviey> rbasak: You had thoguths on transitions such as this. Is it worth just uploading a new rrdtool and see what breaks?

    16:12 <Daviey> (i feel evil suggesting that)

    16:13 <Daviey> adam_g: bug 1183634 ?

    16:13 <ubottu> bug 1183634 in cheetah (Ubuntu Saucy) "cheetah pkg does not depend on markdown, but egg requires.txt does" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183634

    16:13 <rbasak> Sorry poor connection here

    16:13 <adam_g> Daviey, progressing, slowly. security team just started moving on the python-markdown MIR

    16:14 <adam_g> Daviey, should be good once thats done

    16:14 <Daviey> Super!

    16:14 <Daviey> I see they last touched it 20 hours ago.. so making progress

    16:15 <Daviey> bug 1170393, jamespage

    16:15 <ubottu> bug 1170393 in quantum (Ubuntu Saucy) "Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170393

    16:15 <jamespage> catching up on openstack this week

    16:16 <rbasak> Daviey: I don't follow. It looks like we're up-to-date with Debian on rrdtool?

    16:17 <Daviey> rbasak: No, that isn't the problem.. there is a lua transition needed, and that package is marked as depending on it

    16:17 <Daviey> Feels very similar to the ruby and mysql issues we had.. Keeps getting deferred, then someone does it blindly.. and that prompts issues to be flushed out.

    16:18 <rbasak> Daviey: oh, so a no change rebuild?

    16:18 <Daviey> rbasak: yah

    16:18 <rbasak> I have less objection to someone blindly doing a no change rebuild, since that shouldn't introduce any new issues that didn't already exist

    16:18 <rbasak> If I were doing it I'd test it first though

    16:19 <Daviey> ok

    16:19 <Daviey> zul: Do you know why apache2 is still held?

    16:19 <Daviey> (saucy-proposed)

    16:20 <rbasak> There's a big pile of breakages it would cause. I looked today - it looks like almost everything is waiting on Debian

    16:20 <zul> Daviey: yeah one packaging is blocking it, its being fixed in debian

    16:20 <Daviey> zul: which package?

    16:20 <rbasak> zul: it looked like many more than one to me

    16:20 <rbasak> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt

    16:20 <zul> Daviey: dont remember off the top of my head

    16:21 <rbasak> I counted 62 source packages in there

    16:21 <zul> uwsgi

    16:21 <Daviey> Does someone want to volunteer to get to grips of proposed migration issues this week?

    16:22 <Daviey> I'm seeing more server seed issues on excuses.html than we'd like

    16:22 <Daviey> zul: Fancy it ?

    16:23 <zul> Daviey: sure

    16:23 <zul> Daviey: not really but ill do it

    16:23 <Daviey> #ACTION zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy. 16:23 * meetingology zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

    16:23 <yolanda> !

    16:24 <yolanda> Daviey, any more bugs to review?

    16:24 <Daviey> bug 1196979 , jamespage - can you summarise ?

    16:24 <ubottu> bug 1196979 in ow-util-ant-tasks (Ubuntu Saucy) "[MIR] libasm4-java (b-d of jarjar)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196979

    16:24 <jamespage> transition

    16:24 <jamespage> I have it on my list

    16:24 <Daviey> ok, thanks

    16:25 <Daviey> rbasak: bug 1031680 , been a bunch of discussion. Do we have a plan?

    16:25 <ubottu> bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680

    16:26 <rbasak> Daviey: I'm happy with the plan xnox described on the ML. It needs someone to actually do it, though.

    16:26 <Daviey> rbasak: ok, thanks.

    16:26 <Daviey> Any more bugs?

    16:26 <Daviey> Blueprints.. Don't think we need to review them this week.

    16:27 <Daviey> Would like to check on.. juju-core, is there any progress on getting an update into saucy ?

    16:27 <Daviey> jamespage: ^ ?

    16:27 <jamespage> Daviey, I pinged mgz today - 1.1.1 of golang is now in saucy (I jumped the Debian maintainer and pushed a point release in myself)

    16:27 <Daviey> Super!

    16:28 <jamespage> mgz is going to work on that with davecheney ~soon

    16:28 <jamespage> end of this week latest I hope

    16:28 <Daviey> A General note. Please make sure that if you are working on something, anything, it is captured as a WI.

    16:28 <jamespage> ^ that all is

    16:28 <Daviey> There are too many 0% progresses for the cycle and a 100% Info (!)

    16:28 <jamespage> also remember a work item can be a bug linked to a blueprint as well

    16:29 <Daviey> EOF, thanks

    16:29 <yolanda> ok

    16:29 <yolanda> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

    16:29 <yolanda> i received emails for OpenStack summit and free registration codes

    16:30 <yolanda> shall we register so soon?

    16:31 <Daviey> yolanda: Yes, do register Smile :)

    16:31 <Daviey> I haven't done so yet.

    16:31 <yolanda> ok

    16:31 <Daviey> But a bunch of ~ubuntu-server people are going to Openstack Summit in Honk Kong, November.

    16:31 <Daviey> But a little early to declare it

    16:32 <yolanda> any other events?

    16:32 <arosales> OSCON coming up at towards the end of the months

    16:32 <Daviey> None in the short term, i don't think

    16:32 <arosales> OSCON = ~july 22~

    16:33 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

    16:33 <psivaa> I am in for plars for this week

    16:33 <psivaa> Just a couple of bugs affecting the smoke tests, jdstrand and apw were working on them

    16:33 <psivaa> bug #1197484 and bug #1195710

    16:33 <ubottu> bug 1197484 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "Connection requests to saucy server VMs from a precise host fail after fresh VM installs" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197484

    16:33 <psivaa> Smile :)

    16:33 <ubottu> bug 1195710 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "'Kernel bug - invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP' is reported at 'Preparing linux-image-extra-3.10.0-0-generic' stage of multi-lvm installations of amd64 saucy server " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195710

    16:33 <smb> The last one being worked on by apw

    16:34 <psivaa> jdstrand said he will look into the first one

    16:34 <yolanda> ok

    16:34 <yolanda> anything else for psivaa?

    16:34 <psivaa> that's all from us this week

    16:35 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

    16:35 <smb> Not much from me. Xen-4.3 is in progress and the usual funny bugs.

    16:35 <yolanda> any question for smb?

    16:36 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

    16:36 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?

    16:36 <doko> jamespage, are you involved with the Debian go policy?

    16:36 <doko> are don't you care?

    16:36 <Daviey> rbasak: Looking forward to learning what comes out of Connect when you return Smile :)

    16:37 <jamespage> doko, not really but I think i may have to start....

    16:37 <yolanda> #topic Open Discussion

    16:37 <doko> jamespage, cool, lets chat about this next week

    16:37 <yolanda> any other topics to brig?

    16:37 <yolanda> bring?

    16:38 <jamespage> doko, yes - lets do that

    16:38 <yolanda> anything else?

    16:39 <yolanda> ok, so let's finish

    16:39 <yolanda> #topic Announce next meeting date and time

    16:39 <arosales> thanks for chairing yolanda Smile :-)

    16:39 <yolanda> next meeting will be on 16th of July

    16:39 <yolanda> adam_g will be chairing

    16:39 <jamespage> so long as yolanda gets all the paper work out by then Smile :-)

    16:40 <yolanda> sure Smile :)

    16:40 <yolanda> #endmeeting

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