Meeting information

Meeting summary

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:01.

  • ACTION: jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings

Yakkety Development

The discussion about "Yakkety Development" started at 16:02.

Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)

The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)" started at 16:09.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)

The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" started at 16:11.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)

The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)" started at 16:14.

  • ACTION: jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels

Upcoming Call For Papers

The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:18.

Ubuntu Server Team Events

The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:18.

Open Discussion

The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:21.

  • ACTION: powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet

Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)

The discussion about "Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)" started at 16:25.

Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)

The discussion about "Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)" started at 16:29.

Announce next meeting date, time and chair

The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:36.

Vote results

Action items, by person

  • jamespage
    • jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels
  • jgrimm
    • jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
  • powersj
    • powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet

Done items

  • (none)

People present (lines said)

  • jamespage (81)
  • powersj (29)
  • rbasak (28)
  • cpaelzer_ (23)
  • nacc (21)
  • jgrimm (15)
  • smb (9)
  • meetingology (6)
  • caribou (4)
  • xnox (2)

Full Log

 16:00 <jamespage> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team

 16:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC.  The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 16:00 <meetingology> 

 16:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 16:00 <jamespage> welcome!

 16:00 <jgrimm> o/

 16:01 <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

 16:01 <jamespage> (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings

 16:01 <jamespage> not that I can see just yet?

 16:01 <jgrimm> jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later

 16:01 <jamespage> #action jgrimm  Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings

 16:01 * meetingology jgrimm  Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings

 16:02 <jamespage> right

 16:02 <jgrimm> thanks

 16:02 <jamespage> #topic Yakkety Development

 16:02 <jamespage> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule

 16:02 <jamespage> Final Beta on thursday

 16:02 <jamespage> Final freeze on the 6th October

 16:02 <jamespage> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server

 16:03 <jgrimm> nothing interesting therein.

 16:03 <jamespage> nope

 16:03 <jamespage> anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle

 16:03 <jamespage> we've been running snapshots to-date

 16:03 <cpaelzer_> I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk

 16:04 <jamespage> jgrimm, anything from you?

 16:04 <cpaelzer_> but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug

 16:04 <jgrimm> jamespage, i'm good

 16:04 <jamespage> cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou

 16:04 <cpaelzer_> one more thing from me

 16:04 <cpaelzer_> I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago)

 16:04 <cpaelzer_> if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know

 16:04 <cpaelzer_> testing can never be complete enough

 16:04 <nacc> jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/

 16:05 <nacc> *openipmi

 16:05 <jgrimm> that's annoying

 16:06 <nacc> jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle?

 16:06 <jgrimm> ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction

 16:06 <jamespage> nacc, what's the driver?

 16:06 <jgrimm> jamespage, nothing but currency

 16:06 <jamespage> debian has a new version?

 16:06 <nacc> and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :)

 16:06 <jamespage> lol

 16:06 <jgrimm> heh. i was leaving that out. :)

 16:07 <nacc> jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah

 16:07 <jamespage> .18 -> .22

 16:07 <jamespage> its only a patch update

 16:07 <jamespage> how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe

 16:07 <nacc> the merge itself is very complicated

 16:08 <nacc> well, relatively speaking

 16:08 <jamespage> ah so that's where the risk lies

 16:08 <nacc> imo, yeah

 16:08 <nacc> also, openipmi versioning is garbage

 16:08 <jamespage> lol

 16:08 <jamespage> right so its not really a patch release

 16:08 <nacc> and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes

 16:08 <jamespage> I like those ones

 16:08 <nacc> yeah

 16:08 <jamespage> okies

 16:08 <nacc> and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :)

 16:08 <jamespage> jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely

 16:09 <jamespage> anything else for yakkety?  we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th

 16:09 <jgrimm> jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks

 16:09 <nacc> jamespage: ack

 16:09 <jamespage> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)

 16:09 <jamespage> caribou, you're up!

 16:10 <caribou> not much to bring up

 16:10 <caribou> fixed some APT bug

 16:10 <caribou> oh, & working on a sosreport charm

 16:10 <caribou> that's it

 16:10 <jamespage> caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh

 16:11 <jamespage> any questions for caribou?

 16:11 <jamespage> ...

 16:11 <jamespage> ..

 16:11 <jgrimm> nope

 16:11 <jamespage> .

 16:11 <jamespage> ok moving on

 16:11 <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)

 16:11 <powersj> Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working.

 16:11 <jamespage> powersj, hello!

 16:11 <powersj> howdy!

 16:11 <powersj> Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package.

 16:11 <powersj> Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins.

 16:11 <powersj> Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script.

 16:12 <jamespage> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/

 16:12 <powersj> questions?

 16:12 <powersj> comments? suggestions? jokes?

 16:12 <nacc> powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too?

 16:12 <nacc> *script

 16:12 <powersj> https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage

 16:12 <nacc> thanks!

 16:13 <jgrimm> thanks powersj

 16:13 <powersj> np!

 16:14 <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)

 16:14 <smb> We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday...

 16:14 <cpaelzer_> hands over an iscsi reminder to smb

 16:14 <smb> ah right

 16:14 <jamespage> smb, wow that's a late switch!

 16:14 <smb> question is the iscsitarget dkms package

 16:15 * jamespage shivers a little

 16:15 <smb> not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel

 16:15 <jamespage> tgt and lio right?

 16:15 <jamespage> maybe iscsitarget as well?

 16:15 <smb> tgt is the userspace part

 16:16 <jamespage> ah yes

 16:16 <smb> iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more

 16:16 <smb> So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety

 16:17 <smb> and see whether anybody starts screaming

 16:17 <jamespage> smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud

 16:17 <jamespage> we might want to check whether they are still users

 16:17 <jamespage> leave that with me

 16:17 <smb> jamespage, ack, thanks

 16:17 <jamespage> #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget  users on relevancy with new kernels

 16:17 * meetingology jamespage checking with old iscsitarget  users on relevancy with new kernels

 16:18 <jamespage> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers

 16:18 <jamespage> any calls for papers?

 16:18 <jamespage> ...

 16:18 <jamespage> ..

 16:18 <jamespage> .

 16:18 <jamespage> no ok

 16:18 <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

 16:18 <jamespage> openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there

 16:19 <jamespage> anything else?

 16:19 <jamespage> ...

 16:19 <cpaelzer_> here

 16:19 <cpaelzer_> typing

 16:19 <jamespage> cpaelzer_, ok

 16:19 * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type

 16:19 <cpaelzer_> for former CFP topic

 16:19 <cpaelzer_> almost forgot

 16:20 <cpaelzer_> if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at

 16:20 <cpaelzer_> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U

 16:20 <cpaelzer_> done

 16:20 <cpaelzer_> thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing

 16:20 <jamespage> np cpaelzer_

 16:21 <jamespage> good luck :-)

 16:21 <jamespage> #topic Open Discussion

 16:21 <jamespage> any open things?

 16:21 <powersj> rbasak, iso testing?

 16:22 <rbasak> Yeah

 16:22 <powersj> how should we plan for that?

 16:22 <rbasak> So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past.

 16:22 <rbasak> I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that.

 16:22 <rbasak> So people can schedule in some time.

 16:22 <jamespage> is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right?

 16:23 <rbasak> Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it?

 16:23 <rbasak> We had to do some testing manually last time.

 16:23 <powersj> correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing

 16:23 <powersj> re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

 16:23 <rbasak> I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point.

 16:24 <jamespage> yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time

 16:24 * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago

 16:24 <powersj> well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones

 16:24 <rbasak> I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point.

 16:24 <powersj> yeah

 16:24 <rbasak> That's all I think needs doing.

 16:24 <jamespage> ok

 16:24 <cpaelzer_> well, share the pain - thats ok

 16:25 <powersj> ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up

 16:25 <rbasak> Thanks!

 16:25 <cpaelzer_> IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing

 16:25 <cpaelzer_> so it might not be on us only

 16:25 <jamespage> #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet

 16:25 * meetingology powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet

 16:25 <jamespage> #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)

 16:25 <rbasak> Thank you for bringing that up powersj

 16:25 <powersj> np

 16:25 <rbasak> I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments.

 16:26 <powersj> yeah

 16:26 <jamespage> good oh

 16:26 <rbasak> Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda?

 16:26 <powersj> FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you

 16:26 <rbasak> powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately?

 16:26 <powersj> imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;)

 16:26 <rbasak> Oh

 16:26 <powersj> yes

 16:26 <rbasak> I believe I'm out next week too

 16:26 <cpaelzer_> no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days

 16:26 <xnox> jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not.

 16:26 <rbasak> I caught up on my triaging backlog today :)

 16:27 <xnox> jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release

 16:27 <powersj> woohoo

 16:27 <cpaelzer_> rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week

 16:28 <rbasak> cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine?

 16:28 <powersj> yeah

 16:28 <powersj> cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week

 16:28 <powersj> rbasak and I take the following week

 16:29 <cpaelzer_> ok

 16:29 <jamespage> all good then?

 16:29 <powersj> I think so

 16:29 <jamespage> great

 16:29 <jamespage> #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)

 16:29 <nacc> powersj: ack

 16:29 <rbasak> Any comments on bugwork progress?

 16:29 <nacc> this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas?

 16:29 <nacc> or do we want to keep it for a while?

 16:29 <rbasak> I'm fine to drop it.

 16:30 <rbasak> We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic

 16:30 <nacc> +1

 16:30 <nacc> in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there?

 16:30 <jgrimm> rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order

 16:30 <rbasak> OK

 16:30 <jgrimm> or some nudging by me. :)

 16:31 <powersj> rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em

 16:31 <rbasak> powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you.

 16:31 <rbasak> powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like.

 16:31 <powersj> ok

 16:31 <powersj> I'll do that

 16:31 <rbasak> I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that.

 16:31 <jgrimm> rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too

 16:32 <rbasak> The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths.

 16:32 <cpaelzer_> I already grabbed a few and added them to the list

 16:32 <cpaelzer_> so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately

 16:32 <rbasak> Yeah I've done the same.

 16:36 <rbasak> jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic?

 16:36 <jamespage> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair

 16:36 <jamespage> ok so looks like its arosales

 16:36 <jamespage> same time next week folks

 16:37 <jamespage> #endmeeting

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