#ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 20 Sep at 16:00 — 16:37 UTC
Review ACTION points from previous meeting
The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:01.
ACTION: jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
The discussion about "Yakkety Development" started at 16:02.
Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
The discussion about "Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)" started at 16:09.
Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)" started at 16:11.
Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)" started at 16:14.
ACTION: jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels
Upcoming Call For Papers
The discussion about "Upcoming Call For Papers" started at 16:18.
Ubuntu Server Team Events
The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:18.
The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:21.
ACTION: powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet
Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)
The discussion about "Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer)" started at 16:25.
Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)
The discussion about "Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak)" started at 16:29.
Announce next meeting date, time and chair
The discussion about "Announce next meeting date, time and chair" started at 16:36.
Action items, by person
- jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels
- jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings
- powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet
People present (lines said)
- jamespage (81)
- powersj (29)
- rbasak (28)
- cpaelzer_ (23)
- nacc (21)
- jgrimm (15)
- smb (9)
- meetingology (6)
- caribou (4)
- xnox (2)
16:00 <jamespage> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 20 16:00:54 2016 UTC. The chair is jamespage. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00 <meetingology> 16:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:00 <jamespage> welcome! 16:00 <jgrimm> o/ 16:01 <jamespage> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01 <jamespage> (jgrimm) Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:01 <jamespage> not that I can see just yet? 16:01 <jgrimm> jamespage, leave it there. i want to discuss later 16:01 <jamespage> #action jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:01 * meetingology jgrimm Add a url for server release bugs to irc commands for meetings 16:02 <jamespage> right 16:02 <jgrimm> thanks 16:02 <jamespage> #topic Yakkety Development 16:02 <jamespage> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule 16:02 <jamespage> Final Beta on thursday 16:02 <jamespage> Final freeze on the 6th October 16:02 <jamespage> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-y-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server 16:03 <jgrimm> nothing interesting therein. 16:03 <jamespage> nope 16:03 <jamespage> anything else to raise? I know I have an expected ovs 2.6.0 release this week to handle 16:03 <jamespage> we've been running snapshots to-date 16:03 <cpaelzer_> I wait for this snap to get tested with dpdk 16:04 <jamespage> jgrimm, anything from you? 16:04 <cpaelzer_> but I think I covered the config dpdk on OVS 2.6 bug 16:04 <jgrimm> jamespage, i'm good 16:04 <jamespage> cpaelzer_, you did - thankyou 16:04 <cpaelzer_> one more thing from me 16:04 <cpaelzer_> I uploaded a new qemu which changes machine types for migration (meintioned two weeks ago) 16:04 <cpaelzer_> if anybody runs into new unexpected issues please let me know 16:04 <cpaelzer_> testing can never be complete enough 16:04 <nacc> jgrimm: one update on the openipim MR/FFe -- upstream openipmi has no news or changelog file that is current. Which means the FFe is going to be quite a bit of work to submit :/ 16:05 <nacc> *openipmi 16:05 <jgrimm> that's annoying 16:06 <nacc> jgrimm: yeah... it's unclear to me how much effort it's worth spending at this point in the cycle? 16:06 <jgrimm> ok, chat with me later. leaning that direction 16:06 <jamespage> nacc, what's the driver? 16:06 <jgrimm> jamespage, nothing but currency 16:06 <jamespage> debian has a new version? 16:06 <nacc> and embarassingly that i told jgrimm it was already done :) 16:06 <jamespage> lol 16:06 <jgrimm> heh. i was leaving that out. :) 16:07 <nacc> jamespage: newer than what is in yakkety, yeah 16:07 <jamespage> .18 -> .22 16:07 <jamespage> its only a patch update 16:07 <jamespage> how big is the debdiff? I'd debate whether this even needs a FFe 16:07 <nacc> the merge itself is very complicated 16:08 <nacc> well, relatively speaking 16:08 <jamespage> ah so that's where the risk lies 16:08 <nacc> imo, yeah 16:08 <nacc> also, openipmi versioning is garbage 16:08 <jamespage> lol 16:08 <jamespage> right so its not really a patch release 16:08 <nacc> and 2.0.18 -> 2.0.22 is not necessarily compatible, might be major changes 16:08 <jamespage> I like those ones 16:08 <nacc> yeah 16:08 <jamespage> okies 16:08 <nacc> and without a changelog/news, i ahve to go look at the commits :) 16:08 <jamespage> jgrimm, nacc: I'd probably timebox effort - and then postpone to +1 if its not looking likely 16:09 <jamespage> anything else for yakkety? we have the normal slew of rc's going in for openstack - release is on the 6th 16:09 <jgrimm> jamespage, seems reasonable. thanks 16:09 <nacc> jamespage: ack 16:09 <jamespage> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) 16:09 <jamespage> caribou, you're up! 16:10 <caribou> not much to bring up 16:10 <caribou> fixed some APT bug 16:10 <caribou> oh, & working on a sosreport charm 16:10 <caribou> that's it 16:10 <jamespage> caribou, that might make a nice action on any charm tbh 16:11 <jamespage> any questions for caribou? 16:11 <jamespage> ... 16:11 <jamespage> .. 16:11 <jgrimm> nope 16:11 <jamespage> . 16:11 <jamespage> ok moving on 16:11 <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj) 16:11 <powersj> Four remaining automated ISO failures 2x yakkety lxc (still triaging) 2x trusty minimal-virtual (LP# 1625675). Also have the 6x disk-footprint tests to get working. 16:11 <jamespage> powersj, hello! 16:11 <powersj> howdy! 16:11 <powersj> Working on Ubuntu server ISO oversize issues. Filing bug against ghostscript for pulling in a 70+MB font package. 16:11 <powersj> Added s390x testing to simplestreams. Triage of Curtin vmtest issues. Submitting request to add i386 slave to Jenkins today. Met with cpaelzer to get QEMU migration tests into Jenkins. 16:11 <powersj> Bug triage here and there. Thanks to rbasak for merge request to Ubuntu Sever triage script. 16:12 <jamespage> #link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/ 16:12 <powersj> questions? 16:12 <powersj> comments? suggestions? jokes? 16:12 <nacc> powersj: can you provide a link to the tool here too? 16:12 <nacc> *script 16:12 <powersj> https://github.com/powersj/ubuntu-server-triage 16:12 <nacc> thanks! 16:13 <jgrimm> thanks powersj 16:13 <powersj> np! 16:14 <jamespage> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) 16:14 <smb> We might be that >..< close to move to kernel 4.8 for yakkety. Still it is hard to say when for real. Also there was something I thought of bringing up if I could remember... cpaelzer_ , maybe you do? I only find empty space in my brain today ... :/ And we talked about it just yesterday... 16:14 <cpaelzer_> hands over an iscsi reminder to smb 16:14 <smb> ah right 16:14 <jamespage> smb, wow that's a late switch! 16:14 <smb> question is the iscsitarget dkms package 16:15 * jamespage shivers a little 16:15 <smb> not sure anybody really uses that one still because there is an iscsi target in the kernel 16:15 <jamespage> tgt and lio right? 16:15 <jamespage> maybe iscsitarget as well? 16:15 <smb> tgt is the userspace part 16:16 <jamespage> ah yes 16:16 <smb> iscsitarget no longer compiles with 4.6 + kernels and upstream has not done any change for a year or more 16:16 <smb> So we kind of would want to drop it in yakkety 16:17 <smb> and see whether anybody starts screaming 16:17 <jamespage> smb, I remember some users at rackspace cloud 16:17 <jamespage> we might want to check whether they are still users 16:17 <jamespage> leave that with me 16:17 <smb> jamespage, ack, thanks 16:17 <jamespage> #action jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels 16:17 * meetingology jamespage checking with old iscsitarget users on relevancy with new kernels 16:18 <jamespage> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers 16:18 <jamespage> any calls for papers? 16:18 <jamespage> ... 16:18 <jamespage> .. 16:18 <jamespage> . 16:18 <jamespage> no ok 16:18 <jamespage> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:18 <jamespage> openstack summit is in a month in barcelona - there will be a few ubuntu-server team members there 16:19 <jamespage> anything else? 16:19 <jamespage> ... 16:19 <cpaelzer_> here 16:19 <cpaelzer_> typing 16:19 <jamespage> cpaelzer_, ok 16:19 * jamespage waits for cpaelzer_ to type 16:19 <cpaelzer_> for former CFP topic 16:19 <cpaelzer_> almost forgot 16:20 <cpaelzer_> if anybody likes to pick typos and other things to complain about feel free to take a look at 16:20 <cpaelzer_> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mCRAkUO78_Jud9DhFR922AoxrZpGsLbzsPI_SmS0U1U 16:20 <cpaelzer_> done 16:20 <cpaelzer_> thanks jamespage for waiting on my slow typing 16:20 <jamespage> np cpaelzer_ 16:21 <jamespage> good luck :-) 16:21 <jamespage> #topic Open Discussion 16:21 <jamespage> any open things? 16:21 <powersj> rbasak, iso testing? 16:22 <rbasak> Yeah 16:22 <powersj> how should we plan for that? 16:22 <rbasak> So we've been caught short with ISO testing needs during release week in the past. 16:22 <rbasak> I thought we could try and nominate testers in advance for that. 16:22 <rbasak> So people can schedule in some time. 16:22 <jamespage> is this just a final set of eyes on what the automated testing does right? 16:23 <rbasak> Some of the automated testing is broken, isn't it? 16:23 <rbasak> We had to do some testing manually last time. 16:23 <powersj> correct - however I was more concerned with the manual testing 16:23 <powersj> re: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ 16:23 <rbasak> I believe some of that was supposed to be automated so we didn't need to do it manually. That's what I believe broke at some point. 16:24 <jamespage> yeah - the iso test cases had automated counterparts at one point in time 16:24 * jamespage wrote v1 of that system about 6 years ago 16:24 <powersj> well in that case, the yakkety ISO tests are all passing, except the lxc ones 16:24 <rbasak> I just thought that if anything manual is required, we could assign it ahead of time. Perhaps to me, nacc, cpaelzer_ with powersj taking point. 16:24 <powersj> yeah 16:24 <rbasak> That's all I think needs doing. 16:24 <jamespage> ok 16:24 <cpaelzer_> well, share the pain - thats ok 16:25 <powersj> ok I'll put a sheet together and we cna sign up 16:25 <rbasak> Thanks! 16:25 <cpaelzer_> IIRC in the past xnox did the s390 testing 16:25 <cpaelzer_> so it might not be on us only 16:25 <jamespage> #action powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet 16:25 * meetingology powersj to put together iso testing signup sheet 16:25 <jamespage> #topic Assign daily bug triage for week (powersj, rbasak, nacc, cpaelzer) 16:25 <rbasak> Thank you for bringing that up powersj 16:25 <powersj> np 16:25 <rbasak> I think this topic is running itself now, along with the bug assignments. 16:26 <powersj> yeah 16:26 <jamespage> good oh 16:26 <rbasak> Does anyone feel we still need these on the agenda? 16:26 <powersj> FYI I am sprinting next week, so up to 3 of you 16:26 <rbasak> powersj: is the triage rota adjusted appropriately? 16:26 <powersj> imo, we can pull it off given it seems to be working, when rbasak does his triage ;) 16:26 <rbasak> Oh 16:26 <powersj> yes 16:26 <rbasak> I believe I'm out next week too 16:26 <cpaelzer_> no objections to my assignments for like the next 10 days 16:26 <xnox> jamespage, LPAR cannot be end to end automate. z/VM kind of can be - I have some preseeds that are running semi-automated via ssh and c3270 access, KVM can be automated against these, but currently is not. 16:26 <rbasak> I caught up on my triaging backlog today :) 16:27 <xnox> jamespage, overall it's not automated, and there is no iso.qa.ubuntu.com gated release 16:27 <powersj> woohoo 16:27 <cpaelzer_> rbasak: you are on 30th septmber next week 16:28 <rbasak> cpaelzer_: that's for me to do on Monday, so I guess that's fine? 16:28 <powersj> yeah 16:28 <powersj> cpaelzer_, and nacc do daily triage all next week 16:28 <powersj> rbasak and I take the following week 16:29 <cpaelzer_> ok 16:29 <jamespage> all good then? 16:29 <powersj> I think so 16:29 <jamespage> great 16:29 <jamespage> #topic Assigned merges/bugwork (rbasak) 16:29 <nacc> powersj: ack 16:29 <rbasak> Any comments on bugwork progress? 16:29 <nacc> this one can also be dropped then, from future agendas? 16:29 <nacc> or do we want to keep it for a while? 16:29 <rbasak> I'm fine to drop it. 16:30 <rbasak> We could move any required bugwork discussion into the "Yakkety Development" topic 16:30 <nacc> +1 16:30 <nacc> in theory, it should be business as usual, unless blocked on something, and bring it up there? 16:30 <jgrimm> rbasak, i think i need to do a sweep through it with you.. i think some reassignments may be in order 16:30 <rbasak> OK 16:30 <jgrimm> or some nudging by me. :) 16:31 <powersj> rbasak, fwiw I could use 2 more small ones if you have 'em 16:31 <rbasak> powersj: OK, I'll look for some for you. 16:31 <rbasak> powersj: feel free to cherry-pick from the backlog yourself if you like. 16:31 <powersj> ok 16:31 <powersj> I'll do that 16:31 <rbasak> I was trying to pick ones that may lead to easy uploads to get you some experience of that. 16:31 <jgrimm> rbasak, i'll probably grab a new one too 16:32 <rbasak> The "bitesize" tagged ones can be useful for ths. 16:32 <cpaelzer_> I already grabbed a few and added them to the list 16:32 <cpaelzer_> so no new new ones to be taken atm unfortunately 16:32 <rbasak> Yeah I've done the same. 16:36 <rbasak> jamespage: I guess we're done with this topic? 16:36 <jamespage> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair 16:36 <jamespage> ok so looks like its arosales 16:36 <jamespage> same time next week folks 16:37 <jamespage> #endmeeting