UbuntuDev-2006-08-18

 Hello all!
01:00   iwj     Hello.
01:00   zul     hi
01:00   sfllaw  mdz asked me to moderate this meeting, because he's in an aeroport right now.
01:00   pitti   hey Simon
01:01   ogra    excuses !
01:01   Keybuk  that's hardly a "creative" excuse
01:01   sfllaw  I know.
01:01   ogra    theer are surely hotspots :)
01:01   sfllaw  Anyway, it feeds my lust for power.
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01:01   sfllaw  So who am I to argue?
01:01   ogra    hehe
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01:01   Keybuk  he wouldn't let us get away with that one
01:01   Keybuk  it'd be "well, dial in on your mobile then"
01:02   sfllaw  Has anyone seen heno?
01:02   ogra    hehe, yeah
01:02   Keybuk  did he even send in a report?!
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01:03   sfllaw  BenC, Kamion, fschoep, Riddell, pitti, mvo, seb128: Ping!
01:04   seb128  sfllaw: pong
01:04   BenC    sfflaw: pong
01:04   mvo     hello
01:04   fschoep sfllaw: pong
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01:04   Riddell I've ponged
01:04   Riddell Kamion will be holidaying
01:04   Keybuk  sfllaw: Kamion is still on Holiday
01:04   sfllaw  Oh.
01:04   pitti   sfllaw: Kamion is still on holiday
01:04   pitti   Keybuk: /me takes a penalty card for being snapped
01:04   sfllaw  :)
01:04   Riddell fschoep ponged too
01:04   BenC    sfllaw: Not sure if anyone told you, but Kamion is on holiday :)
01:05   sfllaw  doko: Ping.
01:05   sfllaw  BenC: StaffCalendar is not very reliable these days.
01:05   pitti   sfllaw: it's not supposed to be any more
01:05   pitti   sfllaw: canonicaladmin.com :)
01:05   Keybuk  sfllaw: are you using the canonicaladmin.com one
01:05   BenC    we have the mondo admin app now
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01:05   pitti   Keybuk: snap!
01:06   doko    sfllaw: here from the beginning
01:06   iwj     So ... shall we go ?
01:07   sfllaw  Yup.
01:07   sfllaw  infinity?
01:07   infinity        sfllaw: I need about 5 mins.  Just woke up.  Sorry.
01:07   sfllaw  It's cool.
01:07   sfllaw  BenC?
01:07   BenC    * Implemented remainder of kernel side for apport.
01:07   BenC    * Implemented auto-module loading for speakup synth modules.
01:07   BenC    * Burned through a lot of kernel bugs.
01:07   BenC    * Benchmarked i386 and amd64 kernels. Result, kernels will be reduced to one generic of each of i386 and amd64, SMP enabled. Server kernels haven't changed. A -386 kernel will be retained as an alternate target for systems that need non-SMP capable (legacy) drivers.
01:07   BenC    * ia64 and hppa32 have been reduced to two SMP enabled kernels. The UP versions were removed.
01:07   BenC    * Lots of other trivial and not so trivial kernel stuff.
01:07   BenC    * Started implementing changes for Intel platforms: drm, e1000, scheduler fixups, iommu changes for IOAT.
01:07   BenC    * libata-for-all-disks: Pretty much stalled because of me. I think someone proposed some time for this at the distro-sprint, and it needs it. It's not hard, just needs some eyes and hands to get it done.
01:08   Keybuk  I did indeed propse time
01:08   Keybuk  randomly, I notice my ATA driver is still not in the list
01:08   Keybuk  (ALi -- FTB or some other reason?)
01:08   BenC    not all of them were turned on
01:08   BenC    some were "done, but never tested"
01:09   BenC    I honestly think that for edgy, we may not enable these drivers by default
01:09   BenC    but doing so in edgy+1 will be a lot easier
01:10   BenC    we should at least finish the UUID conversion regardless of the date of libata-for-all-disks
01:10   BenC    s/date/fate/
01:10   Keybuk  yeah; I'm inclined towards "edgy+1 when it's in mainline anyway" but have everything in place so that there's a switch in edgy they could throw if they wanted
01:11   BenC    right, I feel much better about that scenario too
01:11   Keybuk  ok, I'm done :p
01:11   sfllaw  Anyone else?
01:12   rodarvus        yes
01:12   rodarvus        BenC, the drm stuff you mention is the agpgart driver, right?
01:12   rodarvus        (the updates to it on intelinuxgraphics.org, I mean)
01:12   BenC    agp and drm
01:12   BenC    right
01:12   rodarvus        *nods*, thanks
01:12   doko    BenC: do you care about the misdn user tools, or should that somebody else?
01:13   BenC    are you doing the xorg side?
01:13   rodarvus        . o O ( we seriously need a machine with a i965g board )
01:13   rodarvus        BenC, its done, already
01:13   BenC    doko: Considering I don't have isdn, I would prefer someone else do it :)
01:13   BenC    rodarvus: excellent
01:13   rodarvus        I'll upload a new mesa later today, but it only has a minor fix
01:13   BenC    we have one such machine
01:13   BenC    it's in Montreal
01:13   BenC    we should bug jbailey about it
01:13   infinity        sfllaw: Kay, I guess I'm readyish now.
01:13   sfllaw  rodarvus: Or cr3.
01:14   rodarvus        cr3 said he didn't have one on his hands (but I might have read what he said incorrectly)
=== BenC is taking too much time...let's move on :)
01:14   sfllaw  Perfect.  infinity?
01:14   infinity        Done:
01:14   infinity        * build-failure-process: After many talks with cprov and some tests, this is rolled out in production, but not turned on, awaiting one final fix, which should be done today.
01:14   infinity        * Spent lots of time this week with Team Soyuz, discussing their specs, discussing new and shiny bugs, and generally giving them gentle shoves in the directions we need.
01:14   infinity        * General archive maintenance, NEW processing, etc.
01:14   infinity        * Re-rolled, tested, published, and re-released the 6.06.1 Ubuntu Server CD for sparc.
01:14   infinity        * General buildd maintenance, as usual.
01:14   infinity        * Some random bugfixing, bootstrapping, and other faff not worth expanding.
01:14   infinity        To do:
01:14   infinity        * While everyone is off sprinting, I intend to finish up what's left of larger-livefs, live-cd-stacked-filesystems, livefs-build-speedups, and debian-maintainer-field.  None have a great deal of work left, but all have some odd requirements here and there.
01:14   infinity        * Need to put the pieces together with pitti to get ddebs off the buildds and onto rookery.
01:14   infinity        * Need to do a couple dozen uploads for FTBFS issues to get edgy's out-of-date count back down to zero.
01:15   Keybuk  I got to 'p' in the NBS before I got bored
01:15   infinity        Awesome, thanks.
01:15   Riddell NBS?
01:15   infinity        Not Built from Source.
01:15   infinity        ie: Removing old cruft.
01:15   Riddell right
01:16   Riddell infinity: are you coming to Wiesbeiden?
01:16   pitti   Riddell: Wiesbaden :)
01:16   Riddell no, presume not from your update
01:16   Riddell pitti: thingy
01:16   infinity        Nope.
01:16   Keybuk  UDMTW
01:16   pitti   Keybuk: Ubuntu Distro Meeting Thingy Wiesbaden?
01:17   Keybuk  that would work too
01:17   sfllaw  I just got a bug with an apport crash report.  It's sexy.
01:17   pitti   sfllaw: :)
01:17   Keybuk  I was just thinking of a Fawlty Towers scene
01:17   ogra    ugh
01:17   ogra    why did i read airport there ?
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=== mvo is pretty sure there is no iron brew (or whatever it is spelled) in germany too
01:18   Keybuk  Irn Bru
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01:18   Keybuk  of which, the only good thing that can be said is that it washes away the taste of the haggis
01:18   mvo     LOL
01:18   sfllaw  Any more questions for infinity?
01:18   ogra    hahaha
01:18   Keybuk  (actually, I rather like haggis, but anyway)
01:18   iwj     I think not judging by the conversation ...
01:18   pitti   infinity: happy to IRC meet with you next week for the ddeb stuff
01:18   pitti   infinity: (to do the rookery side)
01:18   infinity        pitti: Yeahp, will do.
01:20   Riddell sfllaw: poke, do the clerking thing
01:21   pitti   Riddell: just go next :)
01:21   iwj     Yep, Riddell, go next.
01:21   Riddell done:
01:21   Riddell     kubuntu-hwdb: implemented
01:21   Riddell     kubuntu-accessibility: implemented, just waiting on casper and gfxboot support from kamion/mithrandir
01:21   Riddell todo:
01:21   Riddell     kubuntu-edgy-package-manager: have a go at implementing commercial repository support in adept-installer
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01:22   sfllaw_ Woah, sorry about that.
01:22   pitti   wb sfllaw_
01:22   Riddell sfllaw: we're going without you
01:22   Keybuk  iwj: next :p
01:22   iwj     sfflaw_: Hello.  We decided to have Riddell next because he put his hand up.
01:22   sfllaw_ Nice.
01:22   pitti   Riddell: did you see any problems with langpacks-desktopfiles-kde?
01:22   mvo     Riddell: let me know if  I can do something for you there (commercial support)
01:22   iwj     Keybuk: I'll wait for us to finish with Riddell :-).
01:23   Riddell pitti: seems to be working, although most of KDE needs recompiled to add it
01:23   pitti   cool
01:23   Riddell mvo: we might also look at a kubuntu dist-upgrader at the sprint
01:23   mvo     Riddell: ok
01:24   mvo     Riddell: lets see how far we get with the support from python-konsole :)
01:24   Riddell yep
01:24   Riddell no kwwii this week, in the US
01:24   Riddell I make it iwj next
01:25   iwj     firefox 2.0 beta merge: Finished.  Sorry for the mess last week.
01:25   iwj     LP `1.0' UI: Got involved in some discussions.  Not sure how fruitful it was.
01:25   iwj     automated-testing-deployment: No change since last week.
01:25   iwj     suggest-packages-for-filetypes: Not started.  I hope to discuss this briefly with mvo at the Sprint and implement it shortly after that; it doesn't look hard.
01:25   iwj     package-dependency-field-breaks: Following feedback after a deployment in firefox, it now seems that the changes to apt are an essential part of this.  I've started to understand the code for this.  If a ff theme package isn't available by late Friday I'll upload a firefox without Breaks to make the dependency problems go away, so that the theme ends up installed but silently broken.
01:25   doko    iwj: dselect aborts
01:25   iwj     doko: Coo.
01:25   iwj     Bug# ?
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01:26   mvo     iwj: I would be interessted if you could let me know about the implementation plan in apt
01:26   fschoep iwj: Are you waiting for me to do the FF2 theme (by tomorrow)?
01:26   iwj     mvo: I'll keep you posted.  I'm still reading code atm.
01:26   mvo     iwj: thanks
01:26   iwj     fschoep: I'm not really waiting on you, in that you're not blocking me.
01:27   doko    iwj: bug 56761
01:27   Ubugtu  Malone bug 56761 in dpkg "dselect aborts on select" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56761
01:27   fschoep iwj: OK, that's fair - but it's kind of high prio, then?
01:27   iwj     fschoep: But the current situation wrt the Breaks in firefox is suboptimal and it needs to be made to go away either by having fixed themes or by changing firefox.
01:27   iwj     fschoep: So I agreed with mdz that if the theme wasn't ready by tomorrow I'd upload a new ff without Breaks.
01:28   iwj     fschoep: That has nearly no effect on you I think.
01:28   iwj     doko: Thanks.
01:28   fschoep iwj: OK, when I finish the theme, it won't give you headaches if it's after tomorrow?
01:28   iwj     fschoep: No.
01:28   fschoep iwj: OK, good to know.
01:28   iwj     But I think it would be good to have it sooner so we can test it, play with it, people can complain about things they don't like, etc.
01:29   iwj     doko: Ooo.  Thanks.  Will fix tomorrow.
01:29   fschoep That's true, holds up for everything I think.
01:29   sfllaw  Any more quetsions for iwj?
01:29   iwj     doko: I know why that's happening and I should have thought of it ...
01:30   sfllaw  Right.  fschoep?
01:30   iwj     fschoep: Is it probably going to be after tomorrow ?  If so I can do the ff thing more or less straight away (after sleeping).
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01:30   fschoep Done:
01:30   fschoep * ubuntu-art-complete-highcontrast-icons, : find and document icons which need work
01:30   fschoep * starting up / assisting sound engineering, filtering proposals
01:30   fschoep * ubuntu-art-cd-dvd-artwork: communication with Jane / Kenneth on improving media package artwork
01:30   fschoep * attract some new active members to the artwork team
01:30   fschoep Ongoing:
01:30   fschoep * art-polish-human-gtk-theme: summarize improvements, implement
01:30   fschoep To-do:
01:30   fschoep * approve artwork production directions, then kick off production phase for community artwork
01:30   fschoep * update the Human icon priority list with the contents of the PDF to-do list
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01:30   fschoep iwj: yes, sorry to disappoint you.
01:30   iwj     fschoep: No problem; that doesn't cause me trouble.  It's good to know.  Thanks.
01:32   fschoep Well... Anyone?
01:32   sfllaw  I suppose you were very clear!  :)
01:32   sfllaw  pitti?
01:32   pitti   Done:
01:32   pitti   * automated-problem-reports:
01:32   pitti     - some tweaks and bug fixes, added to ubuntu-desktop, announced to u-d-a
01:32   pitti     - wrote tool for regenerating apport report backtraces with symbols
01:32   pitti     - some thoughts how to improve the kernel<->apport protocol, to be discussed again at the sprint with BenC, seb128, and anyone else interested (registered slot on wiki page)
01:32   pitti   * mentored Kees Cook for security updates
01:32   pitti   * many pkg-create-dbgsym fixes
01:32   pitti   * security updates: krb5, gnupg2, heartbeat, binutils, imagemagick
01:32   pitti   * some general bug fixing
01:33   pitti   * SoC project (apt-offline): horrible state, no way to get this ready by Monday; I deem the bounty failed, but maybe he'll continue working on it after Soc
01:33   pitti   To Do:
01:33   pitti   * apt-get-debug-symbols: implement rookery side of ddeb cowboying once infinity finished the buildd side
01:33   pitti   * have fun on distro sprint
01:33   pitti   * vacation week!!!
01:33   Riddell you're on holiday during distro sprint?
01:33   seb128  pitti: you are on VAC during the sprint? ;)
01:33   pitti   the week after
01:34   seb128  ah, ok ;)
01:34   sfllaw  The apport stuff looks very good.
01:34   iwj     I'm on holiday that week too.
01:34   pitti   seb128: of course not, we need to drink champagner together
01:34   sfllaw  It will make triaging a lot faster.
01:34   sfllaw  So thanks.
01:34   pitti   you're welcome :)
01:34   seb128  pitti: and schnaps too :p
01:34   infinity        pitti: Your update failed to mention if she said "yes".
01:34   pitti   let's hope that it'll get even better during the spring
01:34   pitti   s/g$/t/
01:34   pitti   infinity: she did!
01:34   sfllaw  pitti: Congrats!
01:35   pitti   http://www.piware.de/verlobung.jpg
01:35   mvo     CONGRATS pitti
01:35   infinity        pitti: See, that's the only news worth reporting. :)
01:35   pitti   thanks
01:35   zul     congrats
=== pitti hugs everyone
01:35   iwj     pitti: Excellent :-).
01:35   seb128  pitti: Congrats ;)
01:35   ajmitch congrats pitti :)
=== seb128 hugs pitti
=== pitti beams
=== Keybuk hugs and congrats pitti
=== mvo hugs pitti
=== sfllaw hugs pitti.
01:36   sfllaw  doko?
01:36   pitti   so, as I threatened, prepare for champagner next week
=== ogra hugs pitti
01:36   doko    I was waiting for the champagne ...
01:36   doko    - this week
01:36   doko      - edgy-toolchain: look at and finally find the cause for the gcc build
01:36   doko        failures on powerpc, took too long.
01:36   doko        state of edgy-toolchain: mostly implemented. remaining bugs/bits should
01:36   doko        be addressed next week (libstdc++ link errors).
01:36   doko      - some more tests with -mtune=generic, enabled now on i386 and amd64 in
01:36   doko        gcc-4.1 and gcj-4.1.
01:36   doko      - edgy+1-toolchain: look at the sparc biarch build failures in gcc-4.2
01:36   doko        / gcc-snapshot; found it. the sparc developer machine is SLOW! where are
01:36   doko        the niagaras?!
01:36   doko      - java-roadmap: updated gcj-4.1, packaged gcj-4.2 with the new libgcj-bc;
01:36   doko        rebuilt and updated required packages, updated java-gcj-compat,
01:37   doko        updated and rebuilt the gnome java bindings (jni libraries), eclipse update
01:37   doko        will need some UVF exceptions for java libraries.
01:37   doko        some phone calls for packaging coordination.
01:37   doko      - openoffice.org: OOo 2.0.4~m1 test build; would like to upload the 2.0.4rc1
01:37   doko        to edgy (mdz?). glad to read the job offer for an OOo maintainer :)
01:37   doko      - other: sun-java5 update; considering upload to dapper-updates after some
01:37   doko        days.
01:37   doko      - python-roadmap: no news
01:37   doko      - python2.5: updated to python2.5~rc1, upload tomorrow
01:37   doko      - other specs: no progress
01:37   doko    - next week
01:37   doko      - stop uploading toolchain packages, the buildd's will need the time for OOo ;-)
01:37   doko      - sprint: focus on toolchain bugs, java-roadmap, python2.5, ongoing OOo work.
01:37   pitti   wow, doko was really busy
01:37   infinity        Or just likes to type. :)
01:38   iwj     Oh, I'd just like to say:
01:38   sfllaw  doko: You'll have to talk to mdz when he gets back online.
01:38   iwj     ~++
01:38   pitti   well, -changes was full of dokoisms, too :)
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01:38   sfllaw  Hey, hey!
01:38   sfllaw  Keep it down, boys.
01:38   doko    pitti: missed your fastjar updates ...
01:38   pitti   doko: no biggie, they are still on my list, too
01:38   doko    sfllaw: yes, maybe needs to wait until Monday
01:38   rodarvus        doko, regarding the OOo maintainer - have you talked with Pavel Janik? he is (or was) he biggest community contributer, back in my OOo time. Also he did some work for Novell, but it looks like he doesn't works there anymore (but I might be wrong)
01:39   rodarvus        I haven't talked with him, but I think he could be a great maintainer of OOo
01:39   Keybuk  what will doko do if he doesn't maintain OOo
01:40   doko    rodarvus: he's working on his own, and AFAIK all job offers are for full timers; I'be at OOoCon in September; hope to meet some people there
01:40   rodarvus        *nods*
01:40   doko    Keybuk: I'll find another office package ;)
01:41   mvo     doko: write one!
01:41   pitti   doko: you enjoy pain, don't you? :-P
01:41   sfllaw  Any other questions?
01:41   doko    pitti: yes, I love ssp ;-P
01:41   zul     i thought i was the one who enjoyed pain
01:42   pitti   zul: it's not limited to just one person, don't worry :)
01:42   sfllaw  mvo?
01:42   zul     pitti: oh ok...thank god
01:42   mvo     Did:
01:42   mvo     - apt:
01:42   mvo       * merged ddtp support into apt, python-apt, synaptic, libapt-front, adept (rebuild aptitude too)
01:42   mvo       * uploaded first ddtp tarball to the archive, a lp problem prevents full usage currently
01:42   mvo       * added "--fix-policy" switch to apt (works like fix- borken and looks for not-satisfied recommends)
01:42   mvo       * announced the --install-recommends support in apt
01:42   mvo     - gnome-app-install:
01:42   mvo       * added better integration of the popcon data in gnome-app-install (sortable popularity column)
01:42   mvo       * fix in the icon extraction code
01:42   mvo       (should we enable it by default with next upload?)
01:42   mvo       * work on the g-a-i cache (cPickle) branch (40% startup time reduction)
01:42   mvo     - gnome-system-tools/system-tools-backends work
01:42   mvo     - bug triage
01:42   mvo     - misc (update-manager, update-notifier, dist-upgrader, new realplayer dapper-commerical,apt)
01:42   mvo     Blocked:
01:42   mvo     * review of the "AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse" spec
01:42   mvo     Will do:
01:43   mvo     - devel meeting in wiesbaden
01:43   iwj     mvo: Thanks for that --auto-deconfigure change in apt, btw.
01:43   mvo     cheers
01:43   Riddell mvo: anything I should look at with respect to AlwaysEnableUniverseMultiverse and adept?
01:44   mvo     Riddell: it is not accepted yet, I guess we can talk about it in wiesbaden
01:44   mvo     Riddell: there is a "plan b" in the spec :)
01:44   Riddell ok
01:45   sfllaw  Questions?
01:45   iwj     mvo:
01:45   iwj     You have a bit of time at the sprint to talk about the suggest-packages-for-filetypes ?
01:45   iwj     You can tell me what you've done and I'll pick it up.
01:46   iwj     Shouldn't take too long.
01:46   mvo     iwj: I except so, yes. the gnome-app-install bits should be more or less done (modulo further startup optimizations)
01:46   iwj     Right.
01:47   sfllaw  ogra?
01:47   ogra    * this-week:
01:47   ogra    - thinclient-local-devices many good changes in the implementation, nearly done, waiting for ltspfs/d MiR and promotion to main, floppy handling missing yet
01:47   ogra    - student-control-panel-completion parts of the dbus interface implemented
01:47   ogra    - gnome-screensaver update and bugfix
01:47   ogra    * next-week:
01:47   ogra    - finish thinclient-local-devices
01:47   ogra    - finish student-control-panel-completion
01:47   ogra    - implement ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration
01:47   ogra    - start on fully-automatic-swap-server with rodarvus
01:47   ogra    * specs:
01:47   ogra    - ltsp-dhcpd-autogeneration (started/suspended, resume planned before knot-2 to have it in there for testing)
01:48   ogra    - student-control-panel-completion: (waiting for approval, slow progress)
01:48   ogra    - ltsp-daily-image-tarballs: (in progress, scripts and tarballs available at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/)
01:48   ogra    - ltsp-convergence: (no progress, multi distro meeting sept. 14th-19th)
01:48   ogra    - ltsp-netboot-enhancement: (no progress debian patches applied locally)
01:48   ogra    - thinclient-local-devices (good progress)
01:48   ogra    - fully-automatic-swap-server (no progress)
01:48   ogra    - ltsp-login-and-session-handling (no progress yet)
01:48   ogra    - edubuntu-xfce-desktop (no progress yet)
01:49   sfllaw  Questions?
01:49   pitti   ogra: let's sit together and finish the ltsp mount stuff
01:49   pitti   ogra: i. e. the suid mount wrapper and the gnome-vfs bug fix you wanted me to do
01:50   pitti   ogra: (next week)
01:50   ogra    pitti, sbalneav shuld have done the last bits ... i think he sent you the last changes
01:50   pitti   he did, will audit it tomorrow
01:50   ogra    yep
01:50   ogra    i thin its nearly done ...
01:50   ogra    *think
01:51   ogra    but lets sit down for the gnome-vfs stuff (also the cd thing is bothering me)
01:51   ogra    i'll bring my thin client and a bunch of local devcies ...
01:51   sbalneav        ogra: should we file a bug about g-v-m adding stuff in /tmp?
01:52   ogra    sbalneav, not if i'm working face to face with pitti on it anyway ;)
01:52   sbalneav        ah, ok :)
01:52   iwj     suid mount wrapper> Time for me to plug userv again ? :-)
01:52   ogra    btw, for anyone who didnt know it, that localdevice implementation is the sexiest ever !
01:53   ogra    thanks to sbalneav !
=== rodarvus cheers
=== sfllaw hugs sbalneav.
=== sbalneav hugs back
01:53   ogra    its completely desktop independent and i didnt need to make seb128 unhappy with ugly nautilus scripthacking ;)
01:54   seb128  cool :)
01:54   ogra    yep, we mount in /media now ... nautilus just picks it up :)
=== mvo cheers to ogra and sbalneav
01:55   seb128  nice
01:55   seb128  sfllaw_: only 5 min before timeout for the meeting, can we move on?
01:55   sfllaw  rodarvus
01:55   rodarvus        Done:
01:55   rodarvus        * Much Edubuntu administrativia
01:55   rodarvus        * Planning OLPC Edubuntu Effort
01:55   rodarvus        * X.Org bugfixing
01:55   rodarvus        * Preparing for Wiesbaden Developers Sprint
01:55   rodarvus        Todo:
01:55   rodarvus        * Wiesbaden Developers Sprint
01:55   rodarvus           - X.Org bugfixing
01:55   rodarvus           - Discuss OLPC effort with (at least) mdz and ubuntu-archive team, others welcome too :)
01:55   rodarvus           - Work on fully-automatic-swap-server (pair programming with ogra)
01:56   sfllaw  Questions?
01:56   sfllaw  Keybuk?
01:57   seb128  3min :p
01:57   rodarvus        >:-)
01:57   sfllaw  seb128: We started 5 minutes late as people were still showing up.
01:57   sfllaw  We've got 8.
=== pitti looks forward to Keybuk demoing upstart next week
01:57   seb128  sfllaw: we always do but we are on time usually ;)
01:57   sfllaw  That would be cool.
01:58   sfllaw  Well, Keybuk doesn't seem to be present...
01:58   sfllaw  seb128?
01:58   seb128  This week:
01:58   seb128  - caught up with most of my mails and SoC lag
01:58   seb128  - bug triage, bug triage, bug triage: a good number of bugs triaged or fixed but almost as many new ones coming
01:58   seb128  - worked on evolution, evolution-data-server, evolution-exchange news versions from GNOME 2.14.3 for dapper-proposed
01:58   seb128  - backport some desktop fixes to dapper-updates
01:58   seb128  - some GNOME updates to edgy
01:58   seb128  .
01:58   seb128  Next week:
01:58   seb128  - distro sprint to Wiesbaden
01:58   seb128  sfllaw: BTW thank you for the 4 bug changes you did on desktop bugs during the week :p
=== pitti hugs Seb"bug terminator"astien
01:59   sfllaw  seb128: Was that sarcasm I detect?
01:59   sfllaw  Questions?
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01:59   seb128  sfllaw: maybe ;)
01:59   sfllaw  Done
01:59   sfllaw  * UbuntuBugDay
01:59   sfllaw  * Bug triaging
01:59   sfllaw  To do
01:59   sfllaw  * Prepare for UbuntuBugDay at the summit
01:59   sfllaw  * Bug triaging
01:59   sfllaw  * E-mailing CEGEPs about interns
01:59   seb128  sfllaw: an hand on desktop bugs would still be appreciated :)
01:59   sfllaw  seb128: I've been triaging across the board, as the number still keep climbing.
02:00   sfllaw  seb128: We have done bug days for desktop bugs, though.
02:00   seb128  right
02:00   Keybuk  sfllaw: sorry, got caught by a typing break there
02:00   sfllaw  Keybuk: I know the feeling.
02:00   sfllaw  You're up.
02:00   Keybuk  Done:
02:00   Keybuk  * ReplacementInit: now only a few final bits to tidy up, notably initial console settings.
02:00   Keybuk  * BootMessageLogging: implemented as part of upstart
02:00   Keybuk  To do:
02:00   Keybuk  * Package upstart and get it into the archive (pre-Wiesbaden)
02:00   Keybuk  * Wiesbaden: have everyone test while there, and with high bandwidth to me if things go wrong
02:00   Keybuk  * Wiesbaden: UUID migration needs help from other people (LVM, MD, RAID, devmapper, sparc, ia64, hppa, PowerPC, etc.)
02:00   seb128  sfllaw: we have some people working on them which is nice, but having an hand from the QA master would be appreciated too ;)
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02:01   sfllaw  Questions?
02:02   pitti   Keybuk: does it work? :)
=== rodarvus desperately needs help with X.Org bugs too
02:02   sfllaw  rodarvus: I went an rejected some today.
02:02   rodarvus        (bug triaging X.Org bugs, I mean)
02:02   Keybuk  pitti: yeah, very well
02:02   rodarvus        sfllaw, thanks
02:03   pitti   Keybuk: \o/
02:03   sfllaw  Thanks everyone!  Please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamMeeting20060817.
02:03   rodarvus        I was unable to read my "bugs" mailbox today :/
02:03   iwj     I just wanted to say quickly that if I don't forget I'll have two UK->Euro adapters with me and only need one.  So if you're one short do ask me.  (I was going to post this to distro-team but it's not working for me atm.)
02:04   ogra    pitti, btw, getting the MiR approved for ltspfs/d would speed me up a bit ;)
02:04   pitti   ah, yeah, MIR is haunting me again
02:04   ogra    iwj, i'll bring a collection of powerstrips with me ... so we can multiply the adapters
02:04   sfllaw  I need to find North American power strips that won't short at 240V.
02:04   ogra    aww, indeed that doesnt wotk in that direction ... ignore me :)
02:04   iwj     I don't think I have a spare 4-way, unfortunately.
02:05   iwj     sfllaw: Ug.
02:05   infinity        sfllaw: Just get European plugs for all your auto-switching gear.  It's what I do.
02:05   infinity        sfllaw: Much less hassle.
02:05   iwj     sfllaw: You could buy a lead for your laptop with a sensible plug.
02:06   iwj     Now we'll be in the middle of a town I can buy a euro lead for my laptop.
02:06   infinity        sfllaw: I have a US, AU, EU, and UK plug for my laptop, just pack what I feel is appropriate.
02:06   Keybuk  I can't seem to find my EU one ;'(
02:06   Keybuk  I usually bring them all, as there's always *some* kind of power strip nearby, and not always the one you'd expect
02:06   iwj     Bed for me now though.
02:07   doko    good night
02:07   iwj     ttfn all
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02:08   pitti   thanks to all, and good night!
02:08   Keybuk  night all
=== mvo goes to bed as well
02:08   fschoep Thanks everyone and good night. See you next week.
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02:08   seb128  'night

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