UbuntuDev-2006-10-05
09:00 mdz_ we are short ~5, waiting a minute for stragglers
09:02 mdz_ tardiness abounds
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09:02 mdz_ time to get started though
09:02 mdz_ tfheen: you're up
09:02 tfheen misc: some casper hacking, cleanups after beta, preparations for RC
09:02 tfheen next week: RC preparations, finishing touches to casper
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09:02 tfheen oh, and I'm going to get a new Opera version into -commercial too
09:02 mdz_ tfheen: what's your feeling on the bug list for RC/final?
09:02 tfheen (security fixes)
09:02 tfheen mdz_: the list of targeted bugs looks manageable.
09:03 mdz_ tfheen: have you looked over the process doc for RC?
09:03 tfheen yes, and it looks good.
09:03 tfheen let's see if the execution works well too. :-)
09:03 mdz_ the key is to make corrections as you go :-)
09:04 tfheen yeah, I'm going to do that
09:04 mdz_ the checklist starts...3 days ago I think
09:04 tfheen it starts today, iirc?
09:04 tfheen with KernelFreeze
09:04 mdz_ ah, correct
09:04 mdz_ and then monday
09:04 tfheen yeah
09:05 mdz_ ok, thanks
09:05 mdz_ pitti: next
09:05 pitti Done:
09:05 pitti * security updates: firefox 1.0->1.5 for breezy (ugh, thanks to all involved), openssl, mono, checked/published lots of updates from Kees
09:05 pitti * fixed langpack-o-matic infrastructure to work with new SRU policy (upload staging in *-proposed), uploaded new langpacks to dapper-proposed, discussion about publishing/review is ongoing
09:05 pitti * fixed langpack-o-matic to only generate new versions if something actually changed
09:05 pitti * taught apport how to run really *fast*
09:05 pitti * improved apport-retrace script to make use of new ddeb archive, so that you now get symbolic stack traces to the extent possible (depending on ddeb availability); will announce it on u-devel
09:05 pitti * Beta CD testing
09:05 pitti * bug fixing sprint
09:05 pitti Todo:
09:05 pitti * finish discussion and SRU policy about langpack updates to get updates working again
09:05 pitti * another bug fixing sprint, catch up with bug triage
09:05 pitti * some more pending security updates, clean up the backlog of low-profile issues with Kees
09:05 pitti * care for mysql merge if infinity's workload is too high
09:05 mdz_ pitti: anything on your bug list for final?
09:06 pitti yeah, quite a number
09:06 pitti I used the milestone
09:06 mdz_ manageable though?
09:06 pitti about 15 which are easy
09:06 pitti yes, the only bug that will need time to fix is the sudo one
09:06 pitti for the rest I have patches or an easy solution, just a matter of applying and testing them
09:07 keescook pitti: is that the ssh+sudo terminal bug?
09:07 pitti I think I can kill them by the end of the week
09:07 mdz_ pitti: are you getting feedback about the ddeb infrastructure
09:07 pitti keescook: yes
09:07 pitti mdz_: yes, some; people seem to love it :)
09:07 pitti and various Debian guys approached me as well
09:07 sivang morning
09:07 sfllaw Hurray!
09:07 pitti but with yesterday's apport-gtk, the ddebs start making real sense
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09:08 pitti erm, s/gtk/retrace/
09:08 mdz_ excellent
09:08 mdz_ pitti: is there a doc which explains to developers how to use it?
09:08 mdz_ it would be useful if bug triagers could decode the crash reports
09:08 pitti mdz: that's the 'will announce it today' part
09:08 mdz_ pitti: ok, thanks
09:08 pitti yes, I probably put it into the wiki
09:08 mdz_ heno: next
09:09 heno a11y for Edgy:
09:09 heno * onBoard promoted to main but needs seeding to desktop and GOK should be un-seeded. This will save several MB
09:09 heno * Bugs: GOK crasher (58600) AT-SPI crasher (62446)
09:09 heno * Live CD: Will test latest Casper settings, Need ubquity orca-as-root hack
09:09 heno * usability: gnome-at-prefs patch pending to eliminate a11y menu entries in Applications menu (59553)
09:09 heno *WinFOSS: just some cosmetic cleanups and latest versions of apps (esp. Firefox now in RC)
09:09 dholbach heno: I'm happy to do the seed change.
09:09 mdz_ was just about to ask ;-)
09:09 dholbach ;)
09:09 heno dholbach: thanks!
09:09 dholbach heno: de rien
09:10 mdz_ tfheen: winfoss is one for the checklist; please add it
09:10 dholbach the gok crasher was X-related, I think
09:10 mdz_ it should have a deadline well in advance of RC
09:10 dholbach heno: for the at-spi crasher, we should get in touch with William again
09:11 heno dholbach: sorry William who?
09:11 mdz_ heno: you had a chance to test a11y in beta and those are the only known major issues?
09:11 dholbach heno: Walker
09:11 heno mdz_: yes, that's what's on my list
09:12 mdz_ heno: ok, thanks
09:12 heno several things have been fixed in the past few days
09:12 mdz_ iwj: next
09:12 iwj package-dependency-field-breaks: reverted the Breakses in edgy (update-manager couldn't be made to cope in time)
09:12 iwj automated-testing-deployment: Some progress on packaging the Xen/LVM virtualisation scripts.
09:12 iwj other done: firefox 1.0->1.5 security update for breezy finally done. Bugs.
09:12 iwj todo: Bugs and more automated-testing-deployment.
09:12 tfheen mdz_: done
09:12 mdz_ iwj: ISTR the firefox branding list being a targeted bug; have you had a look at that?
09:12 mdz_ tfheen: thanks
09:12 mdz_ s/list/issue/
09:13 mdz_ "bon echo" -> "firefox"
09:13 iwj mdz_: Err, no ...
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09:13 iwj I was waiting to see what came out of your negotiations with upstream.
09:13 iwj And secretly hoping the actual 2.0 might make it.
09:13 mdz_ iwj: they're not being very responsive; we're likely to go with what we have for edgy
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09:13 mdz_ according to upstream there is no need to name the pre-releases Bon Echo
09:14 mdz_ so we don't need to wait for 2.0 for that
09:14 iwj mdz: So just to be clear, I should arrange for it to be called `firefox' unless I hear from you otherwise ?
09:14 mdz_ (and we need to fix it even if it doesn't come)
09:14 mdz_ iwj: yes, matching dapper
09:14 iwj mdz: Well, yes, but when 2.0 comes the name will change automatically.
09:14 mdz_ iwj: s/when/if/ :-)
09:14 iwj Quite.
09:14 mdz_ iwj: ok, thanks
09:14 mdz_ sfllaw: next
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09:15 sfllaw Done:
09:15 sfllaw * Set up lab environment to test fixes for *-proposed
09:15 sfllaw * Verified bug 59228 was fixed
09:15 sfllaw * Bug triage
09:15 sfllaw * Hug day
09:15 Ubugtu Malone bug 59228 in cpio "cpio build glitch breaks Unicode char handling" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59228
09:15 sfllaw * Pinged cgps about interns
09:15 sfllaw * Installer testing with cr3
09:16 sfllaw To do:
09:16 sfllaw * Hug day
09:16 sfllaw * Bug triage
09:16 mdz_ sfllaw: there are a few non-mainstream use cases which I think we need to formally QA in advance of RC; please email me and I will fill in the details tomorrow
09:17 sfllaw mdz_: Writing e-mail as we speak.
09:17 mdz_ sfllaw: since you were in proximity, do you happen to know what's happening wrt cr3 and certification testing?
09:17 sfllaw I know that they're going to be testing the boxes that Intel has shipped them.
09:18 sfllaw And that they will try to do all the boxes in the lab on a best effort basis.
09:18 mdz_ ok, that's one of the items I was referring to, but I have a specific list of line items
09:18 mdz_ will follow up via email
09:18 mdz_ thanks sfllaw
09:18 mdz_ doko_: next
09:18 doko_ this week:
09:18 doko_ - openoffice.org - OOo 2.0.4 RC3 packages, splitting out icon styles
09:18 doko_ and dropping dependency on java-gcj-compat (saving 17MB on the CD).
09:18 doko_ fix openoffice.org-gcj to work again, updated some needed -java
09:18 doko_ packages.
09:18 doko_ - toolchain-roadmap: addressing bugs, still outstanding: glibc build
09:18 doko_ failure on ia64, currently working on it.
09:18 doko_ - toolchain-roadmap+1: prepare gcc-4.1/gcc-4.2, binutils updates.
09:18 doko_ - some fixes for python using packages
09:18 doko_ - other: looking at eclipse update, oprofile sync.
09:18 doko_ next week:
09:18 doko_ - focus on OOo report, python reports.
09:18 doko_ - address glibc build failure on ia64
09:19 Riddell "saving 17MB" yay :)
09:19 mdz_ doko_: the java-gcj-compat changes are landed now?
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09:19 doko_ mdz_: yes
09:20 mdz_ doko_: well done
09:20 mdz_ doko_: do you expect to see a 2.0.4 final before RC freeze?
09:20 doko_ mdz: it's expected before our RC, let's see how it works
09:21 doko_ final python 2.4.4 is another candidate for an update
09:21 mdz_ doko_: could you follow up with LP folks to see about opening edgy+1 in advance? last i heard, it was deemed possible but the plan wasn't very concrete
09:22 doko_ ok, will do
09:22 mdz_ doko_: thanks
09:22 mdz_ BenC: next
09:22 BenC Done:
09:22 BenC * Most of the way through the dapper kernel post-release changes audit
09:22 BenC * edgy kernel is about ready. Few more regressions to look at. Upload tomorrow will be for kernel freeze.
09:22 BenC * started work on edgy+1 kernel
09:22 BenC * no-boot-loader changes will be uploaded tomorrow with kernel.
09:22 BenC Todo:
09:22 BenC * Bug review
09:22 BenC oops, one liner change to that
09:22 BenC * edgy kernel is about ready. Few more regressions to look at. Maybe have a few patches by tomorrow, but nothing that will cause an ABI change.
09:22 tfheen BenC: uh, tomorrow? Freeze is today, can you get it in today?
09:22 mdz_ BenC: are the regressions targeted?
09:23 BenC yes
09:23 tfheen BenC: or is it your tomorrow which is thursday?
09:23 BenC tomorrow == today for you guys :)
09:23 tfheen ok, thanks
09:23 BenC Thursday
09:23 tfheen hurrah for timezones
09:23 mdz_ BenC: thanks for the intel review, have a conference call tomorrow with them to confirm everything
09:24 mdz_ seb128: next
09:24 BenC let me know if you need any more info on kernel support
09:24 seb128 Done:
09:24 seb128 - GNOME 2.16.1
09:24 seb128 - beta CD testing
09:24 seb128 - fixed desktop bugs, a bunch with edgy milestone
09:24 seb128 - bug triage
09:24 seb128 To do:
09:24 mdz_ will do
09:24 seb128 - bugs marathon, backlog jumped from 220 to 340 in a week
09:24 seb128 - keep fixing bugs for edgy
09:24 mdz_ seb128: how big is your targeted bug list? anything which should worry us?
09:25 seb128 edgy bugs list is fairly small (13 desktop-bugs milestoned for edgy atm)
09:25 seb128 no real blocker
09:25 seb128 3-4 bugs I really want to have a look at
09:25 seb128 other are bonus
09:25 mdz_ seb128: you have a lead on that gnome-settings-daemon issue?
09:25 seb128 it's gst_init failing sometime, I've started to try figuring why
09:25 seb128 I want to look at it today
09:26 mdz_ ok, thanks
09:26 mdz_ dholbach: next
09:26 dholbach Done (since last meeting)
09:26 dholbach * gnome 2.16.1
09:26 dholbach [* celebrated germany's union]
09:26 dholbach * bug triage
09:26 dholbach * telepathy packaging
09:26 dholbach * artwork packaging ({blubuntu,peace,tropic}-look)
09:26 dholbach * motu-uvf
09:26 dholbach * motu reviews
09:26 dholbach * apt-get.org reviews
09:26 dholbach To do
09:26 dholbach * BUG TRIAGE, BUG FIXING
09:26 dholbach * look into Debian fixes
09:26 dholbach * a11y team meeting
09:26 dholbach * more motu-uvf
09:26 dholbach * more apt-get.org reviews (didn't manage as much over the WE as I'd liked)
09:26 mdz_ dholbach: is artwork up to date with the latest from the art team now?
09:27 dholbach I'll upload tropic after the meeting
09:27 dholbach but after that, that's all I have
09:27 dholbach we might add some emblems to human-icon-theme, but fschoep knows more about that
09:27 fschoep Indeed
09:27 mdz_ dholbach: ok, thanks
09:27 dholbach (nothing grave at any rate)
09:27 mdz_ Keybuk: next
09:28 Keybuk Done:
09:28 Keybuk * CD/Upgrade testing
09:28 Keybuk * sysvinit: mount /proc/bus/usb again for release, using an awesome recursive bind-mount hack
09:28 Keybuk * upstart: fixed bug of calling shutdown from runlevel 0 or 6
09:28 Keybuk * first cut at making nvidia/fglrx only load if needed, infinity working on improvement for nvigia-legacy
09:28 Keybuk * cleaned up anastacia
09:29 Keybuk ToDo:
09:29 Keybuk * inittab migration
09:29 Keybuk * update readahead lists
09:29 mdz_ Keybuk: _very solid and obviously correct_ awesome recursive bind-mount hack I hope
09:29 Keybuk mdz_: totally bogus, scary, freaky
09:29 Keybuk but works
09:30 mdz_ Keybuk: I feel so much better now
09:30 dholbach . o O { We're all going to die... }
09:30 Keybuk /proc/bus/usb is a recursive bind-mount of /dev/bus/usb
09:30 Keybuk with usbfs mounted with restrictive permissions at /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs
09:30 mdz_ Keybuk: any remaining upstart issues to fix for final?
09:30 Keybuk and a devices symlink in there
09:30 Keybuk mdz_: just the inittab migration
09:31 mdz_ Keybuk: how scary?
09:31 Keybuk which bit?
09:31 mdz_ inittab migration
09:32 Keybuk it's vaguely annoying, because inittab isn't a very well-specified config file
09:32 Keybuk will have to look for "common patterns" (like commenting out something with getty in its command) rather than actual changes
09:32 mdz_ Keybuk: you are full of good news today
09:32 Keybuk mdz_: I want you to sleep well tonight ;)
09:32 mdz_ sleep?!
09:32 sivang heh
09:32 highvoltage :)
09:32 Keybuk that's why I threw in the shiny anastacia emptyness
09:33 Keybuk to make you feel better
09:33 mdz_ Keybuk: satisfied with the archive checklist having put it into practice?
09:33 Keybuk mdz_: needs adjusting to better deal with NBS I think
09:33 mdz_ Keybuk: how so?
09:34 Keybuk to find them, check them, arrange for rebuilds if necessary
09:34 mdz_ ok, by all means ;-)
09:34 mdz_ Keybuk: thanks
09:34 mdz_ mvo: next
09:34 Keybuk also a note that you can't ever satisfy jessica
09:34 mvo Did:
09:34 mvo - Beta release testing/bugfixing
09:34 mvo - Lot of bug triage (beta brought in lots of reports)
09:34 mvo - dist-upgrader work (edgyQuirks code that will ensure proper python2.4-foo -> python-foo transition and deal with hpijs, fixes, revert support for backports, we will get this in edgy+1)
09:34 mvo - g-a-i desktop files updated, added desktop-files from CommonCustomization
09:34 mvo - prepared notifications about non-free drivers (update-notifier url support)
09:34 mvo - desktopsecure dapper-commercial update
09:34 mvo - backported gtkhtml to breezy g-a-i because ff1.5 update broke pymozembed
09:34 mvo - python-apt work (memleak fixed + nasty crashes due to python2.5 C-API changes)
09:34 mvo - apt fixes in the i18n code and made the pkgTagFile buffer more dynamic
09:34 mvo - apt and recent g++ trouble with #pragma debugged with doko (http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29289)
09:34 Ubugtu gcc.gnu.org bug 29289 in c++ "[4.1/4.2] additionally weak symbols referenced/generated" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
09:34 mvo - upgrade testing
09:34 mvo - various fixes uploaded
09:35 mvo Will do:
09:35 mvo - more bugtriage/testing/fixes
09:35 mvo - fix synaptic performance regression (#63171)
09:35 mvo - fix language-selector problem when new fontconfig fragments are added (#62869)
09:35 mvo - investigate popcon bug #64122, need access to the apache logs
09:35 Ubugtu Malone bug 64122 in popularity-contest "Duplicated HOSTID in popcon" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64122
09:35 mvo - user notification for non-free drivers(?)
09:35 mdz_ Keybuk: *inappropriate comment suppressed*
09:35 mvo - look into non-free icons issue of app-install-data (#61076)
09:35 mdz_ mvo: is the dist-upgrader in shape for RC/final?
09:35 mvo mdz_: yes. we only get bugs about failing postinst etc now
09:36 mdz_ mvo: in main?
09:36 mdz_ are those filed and targeted?
09:36 mvo and there is a common upgrade issue for people who have installed unofficial compoiz packages
09:36 dholbach urg urg urg :-(
09:36 mvo mdz_: yes, I usually reassign those. mostly caused by customization in some way
09:37 mdz_ mvo: you have an RT ticket open for the logs?
09:37 mvo no, doing that now
09:37 mdz_ ok, thanks
09:37 mdz_ keescook: next
09:37 keescook Done:
09:37 keescook * new hire checklist, system access, etc
09:37 keescook * Beta testing
09:37 keescook * build environment creation
09:37 keescook * security reviews: keeping "unchecked" CVE list short
09:37 keescook * security updates created and released: gdb/all, ffmpeg/dapper,breezy,hoary, xine-lib/dapper,breezy,hoary, kino/hoary
09:37 keescook * security updates built: bind9, python2.[34]
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09:37 keescook * security investigated for: libmusicbrainz, libksba
09:37 keescook * bug triage
09:37 keescook * minor apport debugging/improvement, patches incorporated by pitti
09:37 Kamion damnit, sorry, totally forgot ...
09:37 keescook To do:
09:37 keescook * security updates pending with pitti: bind9
09:37 keescook * security updates with build trouble: python2.[34]
09:37 keescook * security updates for: libmusicbrainz, libksba, awstats
09:37 keescook * stricter build environment (sbuild+schroot+lvm snapshots)
09:38 mdz_ keescook: build trouble -> related to the update or something else?
09:38 pitti mdz_: related to the 'spethial' packaging of python
09:38 keescook it's related to build system changes, I'm assuming. doko and pitti have a fuller understanding.
09:38 pitti and to some kernel weirdness in the test suite
09:38 mdz_ nnrrgghhh
09:39 doko_ mdz_, pitti: no failure of a test (just on the buildd's)
09:39 keescook it's been tracked down, and the first pass at the hoary updates finished okay.
09:39 pitti (eternal hang in a test that didn't happen in final)
09:39 mdz_ ok
09:39 mdz_ keescook: are you now able to process updates/advisories end-to-end?
09:39 keescook nope, still going through pitti at the moment.
09:39 pitti the vendor-sec objection period finished today, I filed an RT for security@u.c. alias
09:40 pitti I'll also file an RT for jackass access
09:40 mdz_ keescook: as you should be, but you have all the necessary privileges now, yes?
09:40 pitti but we need to make kees an ubuntu-core-dev for full access, and that needs to go through the official process
09:40 mdz_ or waiting on sysadmin?
09:40 mdz_ ah
09:40 keescook what pitti said. :)
09:40 mdz_ pitti: you'll guide kees through the core-dev process?
09:40 pitti mdz_: of course
09:40 mdz_ ok
09:40 mdz_ thanks keescook
09:40 pitti already at it
09:40 mdz_ Riddell: next
09:40 Riddell done: beta release, went very well. KDE conference, lots of Kubuntu love.
09:40 Riddell bug fixing
09:40 Riddell KDE 3.5.5 packaging, Qt 4.2 packaging
09:40 Keybuk keescook: the TB accepts bribes
09:41 Riddell unblocked: ruby, thanks BenC
09:41 Riddell todo: finish KDE 3.5.5, Qt 4.2. KOffice 1.6 also out this week. UVF exception requests to come
09:41 keescook Keybuk: I must perfect my beer-over-IRC system.
09:41 mdz_ Riddell: time is very short for major new upstreams at this point; are there high-priority fixes in there?
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09:42 Riddell mdz_: qt 4.2 has some important stuff like not duplicating packages and giving us back qt4 dbus
09:43 mdz_ Riddell: please be thorough with your rationales
09:43 Riddell nothing vital in kde and koffice, but still plenty of nice fixes
09:43 Riddell yep
09:43 mdz_ Riddell: targeted bugs for Kubuntu?
09:44 Riddell mdz_: I'll do some malone targetting today, but making sure accessibility and oem-config work will be there
09:44 Riddell also if anyone want to fix libnss-mdns to touch nss.switch that would be great
09:44 mdz_ Riddell: ok, please make sure those bugs are targeted by the end of the week
09:44 mdz_ we need to know where we stand
09:44 mdz_ Riddell: thanks
09:45 mdz_ kwwii_: next
09:45 kwwii_ The last weeks I did:
09:45 kwwii_ completely new powermanager icons
09:45 kwwii_ final tweaks on usplash pic, tested on lots of machines - seems to work and look fine.
09:45 kwwii_ windeco button tweaks
09:45 kwwii_ kdm and kslpash pics and config to fix bug and center the logo (fixed https://launchpad.net/bugs/40821)
09:45 Ubugtu Malone bug 40821 in kdebase "login dialog font is huge on 147 DPI screen" [Low,Fix released]
09:45 kwwii_ played a bit and finally gave up on the about/help/app-start pages
09:45 kwwii_ next week I plan to do:
09:45 mdz_ kwwii_: is the artwork now final?
09:45 kwwii_ kmenu side image
09:45 kwwii_ kubuntu branded kmenu icon
09:45 kwwii_ web page images
09:45 kwwii_ polishing anything left
09:45 kwwii_ create a wiki page with all final artwork, screens, etc.
09:46 kwwii_ mdz_: very close to it, yes...just polishing left
09:46 mdz_ kwwii_: let's make RC freeze the hard deadline, including polishing
09:46 mdz_ doable?
09:46 kwwii_ hrm, we could come close
09:47 mdz_ kwwii_: we need it finalized; no last-minute changes this time around
09:47 kwwii_ we are not missing anything major anyway...so whatever gets left out is not such a big deal
09:47 mdz_ ok
09:47 mdz_ kwwii_: thanks
09:48 mdz_ fschoep: next
09:48 fschoep Done:
09:48 fschoep * community-artwork: conference call with jmak and sabdfl, follow-up tomorrow, wrote down final directions
09:48 fschoep * firefox-themes-ubuntu: fix bugs, Ian uploaded new package
09:48 fschoep * art-mailing-list: fix ML moderation, we now have an active team for it again
09:48 fschoep * theme-teams: did my best to package their work, Daniel is doing the final touches
09:48 fschoep * fixing bugs
09:48 fschoep * updating specifications and bugs
09:48 fschoep Ongoing:
09:48 fschoep * usplash-artwork: work with Seveas and msikma to get a new design in
09:48 fschoep * sound-themes: got in touch with cbx33, working on shorter sounds
09:48 fschoep * community-artwork: creating final designs to sabdfl's liking
09:48 fschoep * ubuntu-art-polish-human-icons: iterate with Dave on polishing icons, integrating some community crafted icons
09:48 mdz_ fschoep: likewise, make artwork freeze your drop-dead date
09:48 mdz_ er, RC freeze
09:48 fschoep mdz_: I'll do my best and communicate that plan to sabdfl tomorrow
09:48 mdz_ fschoep: any deliverables from the artwork call for final?
09:49 fschoep mdz_: I'm not sure if I get that question, can you rephrase it?
09:49 mdz_ fschoep: were there any issues raised during the conference call which must be addressed for final?
09:50 fschoep mdz_: yes
09:50 mdz_ it sounds like there were, but we need a list
09:50 fschoep mdz_: the only issue was that the artwork sucks so to speak
09:50 mdz_ please file bugs for each of them and target them to ubuntu-6.10 so that tfheen sees them
09:50 fschoep mdz_: so we worked this week on solving it
09:50 mdz_ fschoep: I am not amused
09:50 fschoep mdz_: it wasn't funny
09:51 fschoep mdz_: so I'll file bugs for the GDM and wallpaper then?
09:51 mdz_ fschoep: anything which is needed for final
09:51 mdz_ and it needs to be complete by RC freeze
09:51 mdz_ barring extraordinary circumstances
09:51 fschoep mdz_: right, I'll do that
09:52 mdz_ fschoep: ok, thanks
09:52 mdz_ Kamion: next
09:52 Kamion Done:
09:52 Kamion misc: Edgy beta release. Lots of archive admin. openssh security fix. germinate fix to stop it wanting to promote type-handling to main. Renamed "server" to "command-line" install on the alternate CDs.
09:52 Kamion sane-installer-keyboard: Extra bits of integration missed earlier, done for beta. Keyboard variant selector in ubiquity. Other minor fixes.
09:52 Kamion ubiquity: Fixed to prevent selection of reserved usernames. Now catches file copying errors and displays a more helpful error message, which should cut down the incoming bug flow a lot.
09:52 Kamion no-more-devfs: kickseed fix for partition selection required by device name changes.
09:52 Kamion To do:
09:52 Kamion usplash: tasksel enhancements to fix resolution detection on fresh d-i installs still needed.
09:52 Kamion ubiquity: Still need to at least analyse gtk-mainloop-crash and invalid-literal-for-int crashes; may be able to at least work around these. Two other major bugs remaining for final (dodgy country selection and broken manual partitioning summary).
09:52 Kamion misc: Fix system-config-kickstart, which is broken at the moment and needs a bit of an overhaul.
09:52 Kamion (I'm going to give the usplash stuff priority)
09:52 mdz_ Kamion: are those important-sounding todo items recorded as targeted bugs?
09:53 Kamion yes, except for those two crashes because I haven't decided on those yet
09:53 mdz_ ok
09:53 mdz_ have you had a look over the process docs?
09:53 Kamion briefly, but not yet extensively I'm afraid
09:53 mdz_ ok, best to do it in the throes for the best chance of catching omissions
09:53 Kamion I've todoed that for myself
09:54 Kamion yeah
09:54 mdz_ Kamion: how is OEM mode looking?
09:54 Kamion well, it works now, which is better than beta
09:54 Kamion still not that pretty, I'm wondering if it's worth fixing up the session startup
09:54 mdz_ I haven't had a look at it lately, but feel free to email me with details if you need opinions
09:55 Kamion (for the curious, the bug was that importing the oem-config frontend to find out which one to use caused gtk to be imported which caused it to try to talk to the X server before we'd started it)
09:55 mdz_ Kamion: thanks
09:55 mdz_ anything else outstanding?
09:55 sivang mdz_: i have an update as well
09:55 mdz_ sivang: go
09:55 sivang hubackup:
09:55 sivang - backup stage uses the new GUI designed in UDS Paris, including usability improvements and media detection fixes.
09:55 Kamion I wrote the above hastily, but I think it's complete for me
09:55 sivang - Working to have a version to to upload early as edgy+1 opens.
09:55 sivang system clean up tool:
09:55 sivang - KleanSweap's author now working with me (was excited about me approaching him for Ubuntu). He already produced a perliminary version of a python back end, which we will work to bug fix, and I'm intending to use for a PyGTK gui. for Kubuntu will use KleanSweap's GUI itself, or we might come up with easier GUI for the simple user, if that is desired.
09:55 sivang - Old kernel removals are still pending discussion and guidance.
09:56 sivang DB2:
09:56 sivang - Finally discovered the culprit for DB2 connection problems on canonical testing hosts.
09:56 sivang - Now awaiting minor setup needed on testing hosts. Kurt von Fink forwarded an request email from me to right places, hopefully this will get sorted quick in order to finish.
09:56 mdz_ sivang: you can CC me and kernel-team for input on kernel removal if you need it
09:56 sivang mdz_: sure thing, will do
09:56 mdz_ that is surely all edgy+1 work now though
09:56 sivang indeed
09:56 mdz_ sivang: ok, thanks
09:56 mdz_ last call for other business
09:56 ogra ?
09:56 ogra forgot me ?
09:56 mdz_ ogra: oh, you're here now
09:56 ogra * last-week:
09:56 ogra - beta release
09:56 ogra - new gnome screensaver and powermanager packages
09:56 ogra - fixed some edubuntu-artwork bugs
09:56 ogra - identified remaining installer bugs (hardcoded hostname setting, translation regression in german)
09:57 ogra - identified remaining minor ltsp bugs (#62036 and missing "DO_NOT_SWITCH_VT" in ldm)
09:57 ogra - had to handle a huge mail bashing flood resulting from http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/27154.html
09:57 ogra * next week:
09:57 ogra - fix the remaining installer and ltsp bugs
09:57 mdz_ ogra: i pinged several times
09:57 ogra - go over screensaver and powermanager bugs, fix the non intrusively fixable ones
09:57 ogra - fix 640x480 usplash picture (was interim for beta, new scaled down pic there, not packaged yet)
09:57 ogra - fix a minor student-control-panel bug with pessulus
09:57 ogra - prepare for RC
09:57 ogra -----------
09:57 ogra * sidenotes
09:57 ogra - we're now allowed to call our ltsp the ltsp 5.0pre version :)
09:57 ogra - lots and lots of thanks to the bug squad for sorting all the screensaver duplicates !
09:57 ogra - beta feedback for edubuntu was very positive, all automation seems to work as planned now
09:57 ogra i was here the whole meeting :)
09:57 ogra i answered UTC 7:00 in #canonical
09:57 Keybuk ogra: are you still planning a sysvinit upload, or should I?
09:57 ogra oh, err, 7:15
09:58 ogra Keybuk, will do it today, its so small :)
09:58 mvo I would appreciate opionions for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/61076 <- we say in http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components that some non-modifiable bits in main are ok (like fonts)
09:58 mdz_ ogra: edubuntu bugs targeted for final?
09:58 Ubugtu Malone bug 61076 in gnome-app-install "app-install-data contains non-free icons from multiverse, app-install-data-commercial contains even more unfree stuff" [High,Confirmed]
09:58 Keybuk ogra: it's what you do with it, that counts
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09:58 mdz_ mvo: ->ubuntu-devel@ I'd say
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09:58 ogra mdz_, yes, but not all filed ... most are one liner fixes ... got them on my whiteboard
09:58 mvo mdz_: ok
09:59 mdz_ ogra: please get them in launchpad today
09:59 Kamion ogra: did you get round to going back through the IRC logs to find out why we hardcoded the hostname in the first place?
09:59 ogra mdz_, even if i fix them today ?
09:59 Kamion because I know you must have given me a good enough reason for that - it wasn't something I was keen on
09:59 ogra Kamion, not yet, that one i'll file
10:00 Keybuk mvo: are they non-free in the sense that they forbid redistribution or modification of the icon
10:00 mdz_ ogra: doesn't matter, so long as at the end of the day all of the major issues are targeted
10:00 ogra ok
10:00 Keybuk or are they just non-free because "the icon lacks source code"
10:00 mdz_ ogra: thanks
10:00 mdz_ right on time
10:00 mdz_ adjourned, thanks everyoneMeetingLogs/UbuntuDev-2006-10-05 (last edited 2008-08-06 16:32:48 by localhost)