20070531
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05:02 mdz all here now? 05:02 cjwatson does somebody else know about the gcc 4.2 thing who can talk about it? === ogra is all here, no parts missing 05:03 Mithrandir I can talk a little bit about it, but I can't answer all of the questions about it. 05:04 cjwatson I'll adjust the agenda 05:04 kylem perhaps we could have a supplemental meeting when doko returns about it? 05:04 pitti would indeed quite a lot of effort, now that we synced most of Debian and such 05:04 Mithrandir that would be better. 05:05 cjwatson pitti: sounded like we weren't talking about rebuilding everything 05:05 pitti ah, ok === pitti hopes this doesn't involve another C++ ABI transition === ogra was about to ask that 05:05 shawarma Oh, the horror! 05:05 Mithrandir pitti: gcc has stopped with those, AIUI 05:05 mdz ok 05:05 ogra shawarma, great opportunity to get new blood into MOTU ;) 05:06 shawarma ogra: Keyword being "blood" 05:06 ogra (thnk positive :) ) 05:06 mdz first off, we should welcome two new Canonical folks making their first appearances at a development meeting 05:06 shawarma o/ 05:06 fabbione FIRE! 05:06 fabbione BLOOD! 05:06 fabbione :P === pitti starts a Laola wave 05:06 mdz evand and shawarma === evand waves 05:07 Hobbsee mmm...blood === ogra welcomes evand and shawarma === asac waving 05:07 Mithrandir welcome! 05:07 evand thanks Matt. I look forward to working with all of you. 05:07 Riddell hi evand 05:07 fabbione welcome guys 05:07 ogra shawarma, that was about time 05:07 Riddell hi shawarma 05:07 dholbach welcome evand, welcome shawarma :-) 05:07 mathiaz welcome onboard 05:07 BenC welcome all 05:07 seb128 welcome === agoliveira says welcome to evand and shawarma 05:07 shawarma ogra: :) 05:07 bdmurray welcome 05:07 shawarma Thanks for the warm welcome! 05:07 mdz evan joins us from the wilds of the mideastern US, working on ubiquity developpment 05:07 evand Thanks everyone === Keybuk hugs evand and shawarma 05:08 ogra ubiquity or ubiquity and d-i ? 05:08 mdz shawarma joins us from a town in the small country of Denmark whose name I can't pronounce 05:08 mdz to work on Ubuntu Server 05:08 evand ogra: I intend to have a hand in both 05:08 fabbione ROFL 05:08 ogra evadcool, i just want to know whom to poke in case :) 05:08 fabbione mdz: nobody can... if that makes you feel any better :) 05:08 pitti srvr? 05:08 mdz pitti: ha 05:08 shawarma pitti: :) 05:08 Keybuk shawarma: random question; do you prefer Soren or Sren for the spelling of your first name? 05:08 ogra heh 05:09 shawarma Keybuk: Soren's less like to break :) 05:09 Mithrandir but Sren is the proper speling 05:09 fabbione or Soeren 05:09 shawarma Indeed. === agoliveira hope Soren as I have no idea how to do the "/ + o"! 05:09 fabbione = oe 05:09 pitti we managed , too === iwj 's client doesn't seem to do UTF-8 at all. 05:09 Mithrandir agoliveira: compose-/-o 05:10 Mithrandir or compose-o-/ 05:10 mdz iwj: time to join the 21st century? === agoliveira :) 05:10 asac iwj: sarge :)? 05:10 cjwatson iwj: /set term_charset "utf-8" 05:10 mdz I will be forced to nominate one of my keys to be a compose key now 05:10 shawarma I've got a big certification thing fro Brainbench that says "Sxren Hansen". Since then, I've gone with Soren. 05:10 iwj mdz: No, I'm always hoping to be one century behind. 05:10 Mithrandir mdz: caps lock is a good one. 05:10 kylem Sxren is pretty metal. 05:10 mdz Mithrandir: I use that. a lot. 05:10 seb128 fabbione: oe = 05:11 shawarma seb128: no. ae = 05:11 iwj Have we got a real agenda ? :-) 05:11 shawarma seb128: Ah, sorry. 05:11 mdz we do, it's in the wiki as always 05:11 pitti Mithrandir: caps lock makes an invaluable Esc key 05:11 mdz and this warm welcome was part of it :-) 05:11 shawarma url, please? 05:11 fabbione seb128: in danish written lang is different from compose stuff 05:11 mdz next up, Keybuk re: Gutsy sprint 05:11 Keybuk yup 05:11 BenC you mean "party at millbank"? 05:11 Keybuk you should all have the mail from Claire now 05:11 seb128 fabbione: in french we use :p 05:12 Keybuk please ensure that you've got your travel arrangements booked as early as possible 05:12 Keybuk late booking may involve paying for cost differences 05:12 Keybuk also make sure you book the cheapest travel (eyas can give you a price for comparison if you're booking on your own), taking a more expensive option may also involve paying the cost difference 05:12 Mithrandir as in, we should just book already? 05:12 Keybuk </reminder from claire> 05:12 kwwii one question: how long does it take to get to heathrow from the hotel? 05:13 Keybuk we're not sure where the hotel is yet 05:13 mdz kwwii: tfl.gov.uk 05:13 Keybuk it may be the K&K, in which case it's about 45 mins with no tube changes 05:13 Keybuk or it may be at the Rochester, in which case it's about 1h with changes 05:13 Keybuk or it may be at the secret Claire hotel wants me to try 05:13 kwwii right, thanks :-) 05:13 Keybuk and I don't know where that is 05:13 Keybuk oh 05:13 Keybuk and please don't look suspicious when arriving at the building 05:13 mdz Keybuk: do hotels often want you to try Claires? 05:13 BenC wow, makes for hasty mornings 05:13 agoliveira Brazilains are a bit afraid of the London tube ;) 05:13 Keybuk there are lots of men with guns next door <g> 05:14 fabbione ehheh 05:14 mdz BenC: they're both closer to the office than that 05:14 pitti Keybuk: gulp 05:14 Keybuk (the building next door to Millbank is the headquarters of the British Secret Service) 05:14 mdz I thought they were across the river 05:14 dholbach haha 05:14 bdmurray sweet 05:15 cjwatson it's MI5, not 6, no? 05:15 kwwii I remember walking there from the KK, it is not that far 05:15 Keybuk right 05:15 Keybuk MI-6 is the building on the river bank opposite Millbank 05:15 mdz the long and the short of it is, don't delay planning your travel. book now. === agoliveira is thinking about Tom Clancy's books 05:15 Keybuk MI-5 is the building next door === kwwii is booking as we speak 05:16 mdz Keybuk: upriver or down? 05:16 shawarma Does anything interesting happen Friday night, or should I be on my merry way home? 05:16 mdz shawarma: we will go out, one way or another 05:16 shawarma mdz: I'll book for Saturday, then. :) 05:17 Keybuk mdz: depends on the tide <g> 05:17 agoliveira Nice. I'm booking for saturday anyway. 05:17 BenC if we're bowling again, let me know so I can bring my uber cool ball and shoes 05:17 mdz ok, next agenda item is from Mithrandir and pitti :-) 05:17 mdz gutsy release management 05:17 agoliveira BenC: I aways bring both 05:17 Mithrandir so, who wants to be RM? :-P 05:17 pitti I was sort of voluntold 05:17 agoliveira BenC... balls :P 05:17 cjwatson pitti has agreed to take on a certain amount of the release management work, at least for the time being 05:18 cjwatson and with help from those of us who have done it before 05:18 Mithrandir of course. 05:18 ogra BenC, poker cards ? 05:18 pitti Mithrandir: how much of your total work time took that so far? 05:18 BenC ogra: always :) 05:18 ogra yay :) 05:18 cjwatson he already has archive admin access, and I'm arranging for cdimage access === seb128 hugs pitti 05:18 mdz I suggested a conference call to begin the training process 05:19 mdz to be continued at the sprint 05:19 Mithrandir pitti: most of it. It's not a problem to make it take up at least full-time, but I think we can make do with less, especially if we split the efforts somewhat. 05:19 pitti (since I'm not exactly bored all the time ATM) 05:20 Mithrandir agreed, you'd need to find somebody, or get somebody to be voluntold, to take on some of your duties. 05:20 shawarma What was the URL for the agenda? 05:21 mdz shawarma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelTeamMeeting20070531 05:21 Mithrandir if people are interested in release management, please do speak up since having an actual team would be good. 05:21 pitti Mithrandir: so, can we have that conf call next week? 05:21 seb128 Mithrandir: and that somebody will need somebody else to take on some of his duties, etc... ? ;) 05:21 shawarma mdz: cheers 05:21 cjwatson pitti: as early as possible, perhaps tomorow 05:21 cjwatson tomorrow 05:21 Riddell I'm interested in release management of course 05:21 pitti cjwatson: sure 05:21 Mithrandir pitti: that would work fine with me. 05:21 mdz Riddell: you should be on the call as well 05:22 Riddell sure 05:22 mdz ok, that's the end of the pre-selected agenda 05:22 Mithrandir we have an upcoming tribe release next week, so that'll be a good training. 05:22 pitti right; so, tomorrow then 05:22 mdz is there other business for the meeting? 05:22 cjwatson on which note, stuff is looking pretty good for Tribe 1, the alternate install CD is approaching workingness 05:23 heno pitti: count me as part of the team for release testing 05:23 cjwatson for the desktop CD, we're blocked on sysadmin taking action on livefs build script tweaks at the moment 05:23 BenC FYI, the next kernel upload is expected to be Tribe 1 05:23 agoliveira Can anyone tell the newcomers what is Tribe 1? 05:23 cjwatson agoliveira: first milestone release of Gutsy 05:23 BenC barring any unforseen "omg all your machines will die" type things 05:23 pitti heno: that would be much appreciated 05:23 ogra cjwatson, btw i fixed the persistent live mode for my classmate script --- 05:23 ogra ... 05:23 agoliveira cjwatson: Thanks 05:24 cjwatson agoliveira: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule 05:24 pitti BenC: will the next kernel upload be apport compatible again? 05:24 mdz agoliveira: it's the bit which isn't described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment#head-edd418c43178ce21e3d72fc6e35b1a0892175cf3 05:24 pitti seb128: oh, and should we enable apport again for gutsy now? 05:24 mdz yet :-) 05:24 seb128 pitti: no 05:24 BenC pitti: Oooh, it wasn't going to be, but I can toss in the changes real quick since they are tested 05:24 bdmurray pitti: not yet I think 05:24 seb128 pitti: wait an another week please ;) I don't want to come back from holidays with a zillion of desktop bugs :p 05:24 pitti BenC: if you could check /usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport kernel before upload, that would be great 05:24 Hobbsee mdz: sounds like an doc update needed then 05:25 BenC pitti: notes, thanks 05:25 seb128 pitti: maybe after GNOME 2.19.3? 05:25 pitti bdmurray, seb128: alright 05:25 mdz Hobbsee: it's one of those things I noted should be written into it, but didn't have time to write up 05:25 pitti BenC: thank you 05:25 pitti seb128, bdmurray: whenever you guys say that the time is right 05:25 BenC *noted 05:26 mdz ok 05:26 mdz anything else? 05:26 BenC how many ppl on distro team now? 05:26 mdz about 25 05:26 bdmurray pitti: when did it get turned on for Feisty? === pitti hopes to see some of you guys at LinuxTag === dholbach hugs pitti 05:26 pitti bdmurray: it was on all the time, I think 05:27 mdz ok, sounds like we should wrap up the meeting 05:27 cjwatson mdz: damn, I have to update my "about 20" stock answer 05:27 mdz if there's anything else, please raise on the appropriate mailing list 05:27 pitti bdmurray: but I'd really like to see the CrashReporting spec implemented before 05:28 BenC bye everyone 05:28 mdz adjourned, thanks all
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