Open Week -- Introduction to Kubuntu -- Valorie Zimmermann -- Thu, May 5
1 [17:01] <valorie> Hello, I'm Valorie Zimmerman, a Kubuntu Member. I'd like to tell you about Kubuntu, my favorite Linux distribution ever. https://launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman 2 [17:02] <valorie> I have some prepared stuff, but I hope you'll ask lots of questions too 3 === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-classroom to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Classroom - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom || Support in #ubuntu || Upcoming Schedule: http://is.gd/8rtIi || Questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat || Event: Ubuntu Open Week - Current Session: Introduction to Kubuntu - Instructors: valorie 4 [17:02] <ClassBot> Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/05/%23ubuntu-classroom.html following the conclusion of the session. 5 [17:02] <valorie> heh 6 [17:02] <valorie> Hello, I'm Valorie Zimmerman, a Kubuntu Member. I'd like to tell you about Kubuntu, my favorite Linux distribution ever. https://launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman 7 [17:02] <valorie> Kubuntu is friendly computing. Kubuntu is part of the Ubuntu community, and since it uses the KDE Plasma Desktop, it is also part of the KDE community. As a Debian-based distribution, many of our developers are part of the Debian community as well. Also, we cooperate with Gnome through the FreeDesktop initiative, and hold a large joint developer summit with them every other year. Friendly! 8 [17:03] <valorie> As an official part of Ubuntu, we share the same system and distribution schedule, as well as Launchpad, the wiki, mail lists, IRC name-space, and Ubuntu-Forum. Many Kubuntu users also post on the KDE Forums, and there is the independent Kubuntuforums.net as well. Also, if you become a Kubuntu Member, you are also a Ubuntu Member. :-) 9 [17:03] <valorie> http://forum.kde.org/ - http://ubuntuforums.org/ - IRC channel #kubuntu , and #kubuntu-offtopic 10 [17:03] <valorie> Wiki: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu 11 [17:04] <valorie> If you like lists, the Kubuntu user list is great: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users 12 [17:04] <valorie> hmmm, no questions yet 13 [17:04] <valorie> I have a few questions which are common 14 [17:05] <valorie> Is Kubuntu a fork of Ubuntu? No, it is an official part of Ubuntu. All our packages are in the same archives. In fact, you can use Kubuntu packages in Ubuntu without installing Kubuntu itself. Kubuntu users can use their favorite Ubuntu apps as well. 15 [17:05] <valorie> I already have Ubuntu installed, how can I get Kubuntu? Install kubuntu-desktop with Software Center, Synaptic, or the command line apt-get install: 16 [17:05] <valorie> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 17 [17:05] <valorie> See InstallingKDE for a full explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE 18 [17:05] <valorie> I've been asked to be slower 19 [17:05] <valorie> this is the first time I've done this 20 [17:06] <valorie> so I'm a little nervous 21 [17:07] <valorie> Would you like to take a short tour around Kubuntu? http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour 22 [17:08] <valorie> Wikipedia has an excellent article about Kubuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu 23 [17:09] <valorie> I hope I don't overwhelm with links, but there is great stuff out there! 24 [17:09] <valorie> we have a friendly, hard-working community 25 [17:09] <valorie> and are community driven 26 [17:10] <valorie> Main website: http://www.kubuntu.org/ . Here users will find news about new apps, themes, and wallpapers available, and find links to help (user) documentation, team coordination and developer documentation. 27 [17:11] <valorie> Questions would be great! 28 [17:12] <valorie> we have one exciting project this cycle, Project Neon 29 [17:12] <valorie> Contributions "upstream" to Debian and KDE - a team of our Kubuntu packagers have developed Project Neon, which provides daily builds of KDE trunk. https://launchpad.net/~neon , https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon 30 [17:12] <valorie> the young guys are really enthusiastic and knowledgeable 31 [17:13] <valorie> fun to work with 32 [17:14] <valorie> Join our community! We need expert users who are willing to help out the newcomers in IRC, the list and the forums, we need folks to translate, to write and update documentation, to make our website beautiful and useful, package, triage and kill bugs. 33 [17:14] <valorie> Challenges ahead: we are losing our founder Jonathan Riddell for a cycle, at least as a full-time staff member. We have an ambitious initiative called Project Timelord, which has been designed to improve developer workflow, and bring and keep Kubuntu at the top of the available distros. 34 [17:14] <valorie> so we will especially welcome more hands on deck 35 [17:15] <valorie> from 36 [17:15] <valorie> <shadeslayer> New contributors to Neon are always welcome ... we need loads of testers and people who are willing to maintain new packages and what not for the long term :) 37 [17:15] <valorie> [09:14] <shadeslayer> we idle in #project-neon ;) 38 [17:15] <valorie> for sure 39 [17:16] <valorie> but they are working hard, not much idling! 40 [17:17] <valorie> please ask your questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, and start with QUESTION: 41 [17:17] <valorie> so I can see it properly 42 [17:17] <valorie> we have a bot to help 43 [17:18] <valorie> and I welcome questions 44 [17:18] <valorie> :-) 45 [17:19] <ClassBot> josker asked: ubuntu comes with the unity, kubuntu will implement something in that way with kde ? 46 [17:20] <valorie> we are working with KDE upstream and with Gnome in opendesktop, to come up with sound menus and such 47 [17:20] <valorie> I'm not a developer, so I only know a bit about that, from listening in the devel channel 48 [17:21] <valorie> we already have our netbook version, which anyone with kubuntu installed can try out 49 [17:21] <valorie> it's a setting in systemsettings 50 [17:22] <valorie> when you install onto a netbook, that is the interface which will be automatically displayed, but if you would rather the classic interface 51 [17:22] <valorie> you just change it in systemsettings 52 [17:22] <valorie> super simple 53 [17:22] <ClassBot> himcesjf asked: Hi valorie. Great information #ubuntu-classroom! Could you introduce me about graphics which Kubuntu uses? Like the compositing types openGL and XRender, etc ... 54 [17:23] <valorie> this is a bit technical for me, however, openGL and XRender are two of the choices available, simply again in systemsettings 55 [17:23] <valorie> people sometimes think that KDE is graphics-heavy 56 [17:24] <valorie> however, the various desktop effects are easily turned on and off, as well as the rendering mode 57 [17:25] <valorie> what works for you best, depends on your installed drivers, speed of your equipment, and your preferences, really 58 [17:25] <valorie> is that specific enough, himcesjf? 59 [17:26] <ClassBot> doctormo asked: You mention 'opendesktop' is this a different group from freedesktop.org? 60 [17:26] <valorie> oops, I might have misspoken 61 [17:26] <valorie> freedesktop.org is where we collaborate 62 [17:27] <valorie> and ever other year, I think it is, we actually meet together 63 [17:27] <valorie> this summer, KDE and Gnome are meeting in Berlin 64 [17:27] <ClassBot> doctormo asked: Has there been any update on Akonadi and what do you feel about further chaos with the new elementary postler backend? Is the KDE community concerned at all about fragmentation of data standards? 65 [17:28] <valorie> akonadi seems to run well to me, but I'll have to say I don't know much about it specifically 66 [17:28] <valorie> not sure what the "elementary postler backend" might be -- have not heard that phrase, sorry 67 === m4n1sh_ is now known as m4n1sh 68 [17:29] <valorie> I think everyone is worried about the fragmentation of standards 69 [17:29] <valorie> I'm not sure what the solution to that is, beyond continuing to work with everybody 70 [17:29] <valorie> that said, KDE is upstream of Kubuntu 71 [17:30] <valorie> and while we work with them, Kubuntu is an Ubuntu distro 72 [17:31] <valorie> I mentioned Project Timelord earlier 73 [17:31] <valorie> Project Timelord: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/timelord 74 [17:31] <valorie> for those who are interested 75 [17:33] <valorie> I have one question in queue I don't know the answer to 76 [17:33] <valorie> don't mean to ignore anyone, but I'm not a developer 77 [17:33] <valorie> I do want to encourage non-developers to become part of the community, whether it is Kubuntu, Ubuntu, or one of the other flavors 78 [17:34] <valorie> or even part of an application team 79 [17:34] <valorie> Community is more important than code 80 [17:34] <valorie> we need community people, we need documentation 81 [17:35] <valorie> we need enthusiastic people writing, and making screencasts, and art, and all other kinds of things 82 [17:35] <valorie> of course we need coders and packagers 83 [17:35] <valorie> they make it happen 84 [17:35] <valorie> but people like me can contribute too, and that's why I was granted membership 85 [17:36] <valorie> Want to see a video? David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck) did this talk at SCaLe: http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/scale also available here: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/presentations/your-guide-kubuntu 86 [17:36] <ClassBot> himcesjf asked: How often is KDE version updated in Kubuntu wrt to KDE releases? 87 [17:36] <valorie> each time KDE makes a point release, our packagers make it a point of pride to be the first to release it 88 [17:37] <valorie> not absolutely sure we make it *every* time 89 [17:37] <valorie> since I haven't been around forever 90 [17:37] <valorie> :-) 91 [17:37] <valorie> but we often are first to have it up in a beta PPA, or in backports where that is possible 92 [17:38] <valorie> since I like testing, I'm nearly always running the latest KDE version 93 [17:38] <ClassBot> himcesjf asked: Would you introduce me on application framework/toolkits Qt/GTK+ with reference to Kubuntu/KDE? 94 [17:38] <valorie> heh 95 [17:39] <valorie> this is a bit over my head, but we use Qt 96 [17:39] <valorie> ubuntu itself is starting to use Qt as well 97 [17:39] <valorie> and KDE applications are all in C++ using Qt 98 [17:40] <valorie> we do often work with GTK applications as well, since any app which Ubuntu offers is available in Kubuntu as well 99 [17:40] <valorie> if you are using our Oxygen theme, which is standard 100 [17:41] <valorie> you can get a GTK-Oxygen plugin (I think it's a plugin) to help your GTK apps look more "kubuntu" 101 [17:42] <valorie> we have a great channel #kubuntu where there are extremely knowledgeable people to answer technical questions 102 [17:43] <valorie> and for packaging problems and such, #kubuntu-devel channel is also very helpful 103 [17:43] <ClassBot> eagles0513875 asked: what is being done in regards to nvidia issues with drivers locking up a system rather badly. i posted a bug and got alot of confirmations, latest one and suggestion is downgrading xorg as well as nvidia drivers whats canonical doing to ensure newer drivers fix this issue 104 [17:44] <valorie> hmmm, eagles didn't stick around 105 [17:44] <valorie> and I don't know the answer to this one anyway 106 [17:45] <valorie> I monitor the #kubuntu channel when I have time 107 [17:45] <valorie> and I don't see many driver problems 108 [17:46] <valorie> I don't have time to monitor #ubuntu , so I'm not sure if there is a wide-spread issue or not 109 [17:46] <valorie> bugs are certainly worth filing 110 [17:46] <valorie> the developers work hard to smush all of them flat 111 [17:46] <valorie> :-) 112 [17:47] <ClassBot> josker asked: what are you opnion about having both apps with QT and GTK in kubuntu, sometime i get bad looking with GTK app with kde. 113 [17:47] <valorie> I 114 [17:47] <valorie> 'm not sure what the package is called 115 [17:47] <valorie> but search for GTK and Oxygen 116 [17:48] <valorie> and install that package 117 [17:48] <valorie> should make your GTK applications much more attractive, josker 118 [17:49] <valorie> for more of a technical perspective, 119 [17:49] <valorie> The expert speaks - Jonathan Riddell, Kubuntu is Awesome from 10.10 OpenWeek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekMaverick/KubuntuIsAwesome 120 [17:50] <valorie> that's in the past, but good stuff there! 121 [17:50] <valorie> we have a few more minutes, so I'm open for more questions 122 [17:52] <ClassBot> There are 10 minutes remaining in the current session. 123 [17:52] <valorie> shadeslayer says, very kewl blogpost http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/11/oxygen-gtk.html 124 [17:52] <valorie> about the oxygen-gtk issue 125 [17:53] <valorie> and http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2011/04/taste-of-things-to-come.html 126 [17:53] <valorie> I blog at linuxgrandma.blogspot.com 127 [17:53] <valorie> you are welcome to raise questions there, or chime in with your own suggestions 128 [17:53] <valorie> I try to work through the problems I encounter 129 [17:54] <valorie> mostly so I have the blog to consult next time I founder! 130 [17:54] <valorie> but I get great ideas from my commenters 131 [17:55] <valorie> to wrap up then, since there are no questions 132 [17:55] <valorie> I would like all of you who are interesting to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 133 [17:55] <valorie> and give it a try 134 [17:56] <valorie> if you like it, but encounter difficulties, please ask for help in #kubuntu 135 [17:56] <valorie> very friendly, helpful channel 136 [17:56] <valorie> and ubottu hangs out there too, with helpful hints on tap 137 === yofel_ is now known as yofel 138 [17:57] <valorie> and if you are interested in joining the team, please stop in at #kubuntu-devel and tell us how you would like to contribute 139 [17:57] <valorie> we're friendly, and will welcome your help 140 [17:57] <ClassBot> There are 5 minutes remaining in the current session. 141 [17:58] <valorie> this was a great experience 142 [17:58] <valorie> thanks everyone! 143 [18:00] <valorie> now for our next great speaker!