20100129
This is the 1st meeting for 2010 of the Philippine Team, starting at 20:00 PHT (UTC+8) and finishing at 22:12 PHT (UTC+8)
Attendance
Active Attendees:
- Knightlust - Dax Solomon Umaming
- bhearsum
- aljoriz - Aljoriz M. Dublin
- pyc - Loell Erecre
- jaceleon - Ace Leon
- joe_alf - Jefferon Alfaro
- str0ng - Marlon Guao
- jr_galia - JR Galia
- Laibcoms - JC John Sese Cuneta
- johnarcews - John Arce
- dodimar - Marvin Cruz
- ojtibi
- jonas3
- zeroseven0183 - Jean Austin Rodriguez
- nhatz - Natali Rico Diocades
- otep - Nod Morrina
- guitar_man
- suxenexus
- domon
- e1mer - Elmer Rivera
- rjian - RJ Ian Sevilla
- acp_ - AC Perdon
- viril - Viril Calimlim
- scriptwarlock
- jepong - Jeffrey Seguerra
- Severity1 - John Reilly Pospos
- Orlee - Orlee Pasion
- vhinz
- Jucato - Juan Carlos Torres
Agenda
When adding agenda items please "sign" them, place @SIG@ after each of your items. If you won't be in attendance, please describe your item and wishes in detail otherwise those items may not be effectively discussed.
- Webinars for Ubuntu-PH users
- Translation Tutorials
- Bug Reports and Triaging
- Specialty Tutorials
- Seminars and Offline Events
- Event Plans
- Tools and Resources
- Conference Packs
- Presentations
- Translation of Packages for Lucid Lynx
- Important Packages
- Package Adoption
- Translation Trackers
- Locales due for libc
- Submission Process
- Technical Manual
- Languages not yet in libc
- Hiligaynon
- Bikol
- Iloko
- Pangasinan
- Pampanga
- Additional Language
- Central Sinama
- The Peso Sign
Preparation for the LoCo Team Re-approval
- Resources
- Membership
- Roadmap
- Experience
- Regional Contact Persons
- Need Assessment
- Regions
- Luzon
- Visayas
- Mindanao
- CD Request Process
- Current Process
- Local Process
- Website
- Host Provider
- Planet
- Other matters
Minutes
- Webinars for Ubuntu-PH users
- Translation tutorials will commence next week, date and time to be announced later
- The first tutorial will first cover Launchpad's Translations
Succeeding Translation tutorials will cover PO files and tools such as PoEdit
- Bug Reporting and Triaging tutorials will be tackled next
- The Bug Control Team and their responsibilities was briefly tackled
- Specialty Tutorials
- Programmers and System Administrators will be invited to discuss their field of specialty
- Will discuss Database Administration and Programming
- Sessions such as this could attract more members, especially students
- Possibility of handing out certificates
- Translation tutorials will commence next week, date and time to be announced later
- Seminars and Offline Events
- Lucid Lynx Release Party
- Regional Ubuntu Love Day
Presentations available online and LoCo Conference Packs are discussed
- The International Rice Research Institute is willing to host events
- Schools may be willing to host events if we lack venue
- Translation of Packages for Lucid Lynx
- Discussed the most important packages the team should translate
- Browsers, Email Clients, Office Applications
- Adoption of a user's most used application was suggested
- Extensive use of Launchpad was agreed upon instead of creating a tracker which tracks which user's translating what application
- Discussed the most important packages the team should translate
- Locales due for libc
- For next meeting
Preparation for the LoCo Team Re-approval
Team hasn't been scheduled yet for assessment, possibly for 4th Quarter this year
Our LoCo team met all criterias except Experience
- Meetups and Eyeballs proposed and for further discussion
- G2iX's Techbar available for meetups
- Regional Contact Persons
- To assess areas with active Ubuntu members
- Survey users locations
- CD Request Process
Discussed current ShipIt process
- Document local process for requesting CDs
- Website
- Content is out of date, will be updated by the community
- Additional Administrators will be approved upon request
- Website is currently hosted at 110mb.com under a paid account
- Two other active Ubuntu Members/LoCo Leaders (Loell and Zak) will be provided access to the host
As long as the website is being used by the community, the account will be passed on to the current LoCo Contact
- Current host insufficient to run Planet Feed Reader, will look at PHP-based aggregators
- Other matters
- Ubuntu-PH stickers are being given away in the forums, the team will continue to encourage the individual
- Tutorial/Howto page will be created on how to create quality stickers and shirts with Ubuntu-PH Logo
Solicit sponsorships from other LoCo teams for the stickers
- Fundraising for shirts, stickers, and other materials was brought up
- SM North Meetup was discussed, details will be discussed in the forums.
Any Other Business
- Meeting and IRC Logs also available in the following locations
- Locales due for libc Topics for Next Meeting
- Submission Process
- Technical Manual
- Languages not yet in libc
- Hiligaynon
- Bikol
- Iloko
- Pangasinan
- Pampanga
- Additional Language
- Central Sinama
- The Peso Sign
IRC LOGS
Started logging meeting in #ubuntu-ph [06:00:13] <Knightlust> Good Evening Guys! I'm glad you can all make it. Let's start with our attendance. [06:00:20] <Knightlust> Since some attendees are new here, I'd like the team to get acquainted with each other and get to know your real names by issuing this command /me is Your Real Name. [06:00:25] <bhearsum> aljoriz: launchpad isn't the greatest place to do Mozilla translations, unfortunately, mas mabuti ang upstream [06:00:30] <Knightlust> I'll start. [06:00:34] * Knightlust is Dax Solomon Umaming [06:00:45] <aljoriz> mesa ALJORIZ M. DUBLIN mesa no like jarjar binks [06:00:55] * pyc Loell Erecre [06:00:59] * jaceleon is Ace Leon [06:01:03] * joe_alf Jefferon Alfaro [06:01:14] * str0ng Marlon Guao [06:01:16] * jr_galia is Claudio Galia III [06:01:22] * Laibcoms is JC John Sese Cuneta [06:01:52] * joe_alf Jefferson Alfaro [06:02:15] <Knightlust> alright, anyone else? [06:02:32] <Knightlust> Thanks guys. Let's now discuss our activities for 2010. [06:02:36] <aljoriz> ok [06:02:38] * johnarcews John Arce [06:02:39] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Webinars for Ubuntu-PH users [06:02:52] <Knightlust> I guess the community would love attending online tutorials if only it coincides with our timezone. So I'll be holding various webinars on a wide range of topics. [06:03:14] <Knightlust> #ubuntu-classroom has tons of online tutorials, unfortunately, we have to be awake at 12MN-4AM [06:03:20] <aljoriz> suggestion: how about making a vcd or dvd type of tutorials? [06:03:20] <Knightlust> so I came up with this [06:03:29] <Knightlust> The first subject would obviously be Translations. I'm sure the community is eager to go try their skills on translating a package but there's very few available resource online. [06:03:45] <Knightlust> [IDEA] how about making a vcd or dvd type of tutorials? [06:04:00] <Knightlust> FYI, translated packages will also be available upstream after a merge. Meaning, other distros would benefit from your work. [06:04:06] <dodimar> PRESENT [06:04:11] <aljoriz> 12mn-4am isn't a practical time to meet seeing that most of us work [06:04:23] <Knightlust> I'll start with Launchpad howtos, then move on to translating PO files utilizing tools such as Poedit. [06:04:39] <Knightlust> We'll also cover topics such as how to push your PO files upstreams. [06:04:57] <Knightlust> The second subject I'll be glad to teach would be Bug Reporting and Triaging. [06:04:57] <aljoriz> teka xcuse my ignorance.. what's an upstream? [06:05:12] <Knightlust> aljoriz: upstream's the package/program itself [06:05:29] <aljoriz> thank u [06:05:29] <Knightlust> like Firefox, if you get it upstream - it means you get it from mozilla.com [06:05:47] <Knightlust> Quality Assurance work has become somewhat of a specialty, and we'll benefit by learning how to submit detailed and useful bug reports. [06:06:04] <Knightlust> We'll also discuss Bug Triaging in the process. This is a very critical part of QA work since most developers rely on the Importance and Status. [06:06:14] <jaceleon> so technically, upstreaming is sending the program to its online place for distribution...? [06:06:15] <Knightlust> And if you feel comfortable working with bugs, I encourage you to apply for Ubuntu Bug Control Team. [06:06:17] <aljoriz> mejo nakakatakot yan prang dpat BSIT ka yata [06:06:29] <bhearsum> jaceleon: "upstreaming" is sending work back to the original author [06:06:35] <Knightlust> You'll then be able to change a bug's Importance and Status upon your approval - something Bug Reporters aren't allowed to do (mostly because of abuse). [06:06:38] <jaceleon> ah, thanks. [06:06:48] <Knightlust> Your contributions to the Bug Control Team will be advantageous to your Ubuntu Membership application in the future. [06:06:55] <Knightlust> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl [06:07:02] <Knightlust> you don't need to be in IT [06:07:06] <aljoriz> umm what are the benefits of ubutnu membership? [06:07:10] <Knightlust> that's the purpose of the webinars and tutorials [06:07:26] <Knightlust> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [06:07:58] <Knightlust> So any questions on Bug Report/Triaging and Translation Tutorials/Webinars? [06:08:33] <Knightlust> Lastly, we'll hold specialty tutorials. I noticed that most Filipino Ubuntu Users are just that - Users. [06:08:43] <Knightlust> But that's something we're good at, and we can use it to our advantage and help the community at the same time. [06:08:57] <Knightlust> So I'll be inviting Programmers and System Administrators in the very near future to conduct webinars on their field of specialty. [06:09:05] <ojtibi> Hi all! :) [06:09:09] <aljoriz> us? users.. parang adik pakingan yan [06:09:13] <Knightlust> We could hold sessions on Database Administration (MySQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite, etc.) [06:09:21] <Knightlust> We could also hold sessions on programming. [06:09:34] <Knightlust> Example: Jucato could hold tutorials for C++/Qt while nhatz could teach us about PHP. And then zakame would impart his knowledge on Perl. [06:09:45] <johnarcews> yes mostly users/fanatic ang madame [06:09:49] <aljoriz> is it possible to make translation easier [06:09:52] <Knightlust> Sessions such as this could attract more members, especially students. And we could even hand out certificates. [06:10:15] <aljoriz> that certification idea would benefit schools [06:10:16] <jonas3> nice [06:10:19] <Knightlust> aljoriz: yes, the Launchpad interface is the easiest I've seen [06:10:34] <jaceleon> and would benefit our resumes [06:10:51] <Knightlust> Any questions on Tutorials and Webinars [06:10:55] <aljoriz> @Knightlust pero di ba sabi mo mas ok kung sa upstream? [06:11:12] <pyc> jaceleon: on resumes, not necessarily, but it may. [06:11:14] <ojtibi> I see John Arce here, how about Allan (wersdaluv) and sir Dax? [06:11:31] <Knightlust> aljoriz: pushing your translation upstreams will only make the distribution of your translations faster [06:11:31] <aljoriz> when I first saw launchpad parang nakakatakot tlga parang not user friendly [06:11:48] <Laibcoms> ojtibi: Knightlust = Dax ^_^ [06:11:51] <zeroseven0183> You'll get use to it, aljoriz [06:11:57] <Knightlust> Using Launchpad is easy, but it will take a while before it gets merge upstream [06:12:08] <nhatz> hehehehe [06:12:11] <nhatz> start na ba? [06:12:17] <ojtibi> Ay thanks Laibcoms, hi sir Dax you're here na pala :) [06:12:23] <Knightlust> hehe [06:12:29] <Knightlust> anymore questions? [06:12:33] <jaceleon> wenkz! [06:13:05] <Knightlust> I prefer to use Launchpad, it adds up my Karma [06:13:21] <Knightlust> anymore questions? [06:13:30] <aljoriz> [Idea] if would be nice if we can add members who are pc distributors so that we cn install ubuntu and lower pc / netbook pricing [06:13:49] <zeroseven0183> When will these tutorials and webinars start? [06:14:07] <jaceleon> aljoriz, I beg to differ on your opinion but..... [06:14:09] <Knightlust> zeroseven0183: we'll start next week [06:14:26] <zeroseven0183> Thanks [06:14:30] <aljoriz> so that sched is 12mn-4am? [06:14:34] <Knightlust> aljoriz: it'll be great if we could get distributors to do that [06:14:47] <aljoriz> yes a big IF [06:14:47] * zeroseven0183 Jean Austin [06:14:55] <jaceleon> aljoriz, it's not as if I hate the idea, but... [06:15:02] <Knightlust> aljoriz: the 12mn-4am is the current sessions by the Ubuntu Community [06:15:09] <jaceleon> aljoriz, distributors ARE businessmen [06:15:13] <aljoriz> ow [06:15:17] <Knightlust> targeting the US and UK timezones [06:15:20] <jaceleon> and businessmen goes with the trend with more earnings on it [06:15:30] <Knightlust> that's why we'll start our own tutorial sessions [06:15:42] <aljoriz> anyway the schedule won't be ok with me as I have work int he mornings. [06:15:46] <jaceleon> and as for open source, for them, it is a slasher of their earnings.... [06:16:26] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Seminars and Offline Events [06:16:33] <Knightlust> Let's move on to something I love. Offline Events and Eyeballs [06:16:40] <aljoriz> but it would be nice if the seminar would be an interactive type [06:16:43] <jonas3> sorry for this question kinda hook up late...is the tutorials/webinars follow certain teaching pattern or just a answer a question when asked thingy...?. [06:16:47] <pyc> [IDEA] regional ubuntu love day [06:16:50] <Knightlust> Of course there's the Lucid Lynx Release Party on April(?). Fortunately for us, there's Allan Caeg to organize the event [06:16:51] <aljoriz> things like IT professors do now a days [06:16:58] <nhatz> pwede naman gawin sa google wave [06:17:08] <Knightlust> jonas3: it follows a pattern [06:17:21] <Knightlust> there'll also be presentations if we use Jono Bacon's Lernid [06:17:30] <jonas3> ok thanks [06:17:46] <str0ng> or.. moodle? :) [06:17:47] <aljoriz> it would be nice if the lessons can be in powerpoint format to download and easily distribute [06:18:02] <jonas3> yup [06:18:11] <jonas3> presentation you mean? [06:18:22] <zeroseven0183> or in PDF, distributed before the meeting [06:18:23] <Knightlust> yes, we'll use whatever tools available to us [06:18:33] <zeroseven0183> I mean, seminar [06:18:41] <aljoriz> parang powerpoint presentations tapos may exams na interactive like the quizzes on facebook [06:19:01] <pyc> and of course we need your help to do those presentations ;) [06:19:06] <Knightlust> I'd also encourage anyone to organize their own Regional Ubuntu Love Day 2010 [06:19:18] <Knightlust> thanks pyc [06:19:23] <jaceleon> it is nice if this is implemented.... [06:19:33] <jonas3> very nice [06:19:40] <aljoriz> tanong last sir.. how much is the expenses incurred to organize such a love day? [06:20:30] <aljoriz> like sa launch party ninyo sa manila how was the expense handled? [06:20:35] <pyc> aljoriz: depends [06:20:53] <pyc> kany-kanyang baon will also do :D [06:21:04] <jaceleon> how about make it national? [06:21:06] <Knightlust> right, it depends [06:21:23] <Knightlust> the last Ubuntu Love Day was organized by Jerome Gotangco and sponsored by his company [06:21:29] <Knightlust> so his expense is minimal [06:21:38] <Knightlust> it doesn't have to be a spectacular event [06:21:43] <jaceleon> I mean the organization of such events require coordination from others... it would be nice to have coordinations nationwide [06:21:51] <Knightlust> have your local schools sponsor the venue [06:21:56] <Knightlust> they'd love it [06:22:04] <pyc> but seriously, use minimal monetray resource and more of collaborative voluntarism is encourage when organaizing events [06:22:08] <Knightlust> if you have University of the Philippines near you, you can ask them [06:22:11] <aljoriz> im kinda depressed in dt area [06:22:26] <otep> jaceleon: tipong simultaneous ba? [06:22:41] <jonas3> question..(a stupid one i bet)..when is this love day? specifically. [06:22:47] <aljoriz> tried to have the dean of University of the Visayas held an ubuntu awareness seminar tapos parang deadma lang eh [06:22:49] <jaceleon> otep, yes, yung parang celebration ng y2k [06:22:56] <Knightlust> otep: ahh yes, i believe the last Ubuntu Love Day was held simultaneously with a Mozilla event [06:23:09] <Knightlust> and also streamed live [06:23:25] <pyc> jonas3: schedules are location dependent :) [06:23:35] <aljoriz> I hate the fact sa mga school LINUX become like a footnote lng at di nahahawakan [06:23:42] <jonas3> ah ok..thanks [06:23:53] <jaceleon> well, that's A FACT...... [06:24:02] <jaceleon> :( [06:24:08] <aljoriz> fact them! [06:24:14] <jonas3> :-$ [06:24:17] <Knightlust> alright moving on [06:24:18] <jr_galia> even CS n IT graduate, may di nakahawak ng linux [06:24:28] <Knightlust> Tools and Resources for Offline Events [06:24:41] <aljoriz> tools for offline events? [06:24:47] <Knightlust> Since Ubuntu-PH is an approved team, we are afforded conference packs [06:24:53] <jonas3> people brought up with something else [06:24:58] <aljoriz> umm whats a conference packs [06:25:01] <Knightlust> but are limited and we'll have to reuse them [06:25:33] <Knightlust> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences [06:26:01] <aljoriz> oh kewl [06:26:13] <zeroseven0183> re-use 4 shirts :-) [06:26:15] <Knightlust> various Presentations are also available online [06:26:20] <Knightlust> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations [06:26:23] <aljoriz> no laba laba [06:26:34] <aljoriz> mr bombastik so fantastik [06:26:41] <guitar_man> late na ako.. [06:26:56] <jaceleon> hi sir guitar_man! welcome! [06:27:03] <Knightlust> and if you want help with your Presentations, you can ask the community [06:27:11] <aljoriz> cats stevens, in the haws [06:27:16] <Knightlust> we'd be more than happy to create one or edit out your presentation [06:28:08] <Knightlust> Also, if you want to organize an event, and need help with the venue. Please don't hesitate to ask [06:28:27] <aljoriz> hirap kc mag screen capture ng installation eh so most of the images for a presentation would be ripped someone else's work [06:28:31] <Knightlust> i'd be more than happy to draft up a letter addressed to your nearest university [06:29:01] <suxenexus> hi [06:29:07] <jonas3> i did a presentation at school before doing installation for debian lenny.. [06:29:08] <zeroseven0183> By the way, speaking of venue, IRRI (International Rice Research Institute) is very willing to host events [06:29:12] <suxenexus> did the meeting started already? [06:29:16] <Knightlust> One tip I've been informed about, contact Colleges (not Universities) for the venues [06:29:32] <Knightlust> they could use the event to boost up their University application [06:29:36] <pyc> hrrm suxenexus , di masyadong obvious ;) [06:29:37] <jonas3> what i did was capture the screen shots through sun virtual machine [06:30:01] <Knightlust> Anymore questions on Seminars and Offline Events? [06:30:08] <aljoriz> totoo yan CHED would happy if may ganyan [06:30:30] <Knightlust> Basically we have 2, the Lucid Release Party and the Ubuntu Love Day [06:30:40] <Knightlust> details to be discussed later [06:30:57] <Knightlust> So, anymore questions before moving on to the next topic? [06:31:10] <aljoriz> no so far [06:31:21] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Translation of Packages for Lucid Lynx [06:31:40] <aljoriz> this one i like [06:31:41] <Knightlust> We'll first discuss important packages up for translation [06:32:07] <Knightlust> The most important would be Browsers, Email Clients, and Office Application [06:32:22] <jaceleon> so what are the top 5 packages, specifically? [06:32:30] <Knightlust> So if you have time, try getting your hands translating Firefox, Thunderbir, Evolution, and OpenOffice.org [06:32:31] <aljoriz> firefox? [06:32:53] <Knightlust> The most important packages are those that are shipped/installed by default [06:33:08] <aljoriz> so how do I get my hands translating firefox? tt? evo? ooo? [06:33:15] <jaceleon> speaking of installed by default, isn't gimp gone on 10.04? [06:33:30] <Knightlust> I'd say, the Top Five would be GNOME, Firefox, Evolution, OpenOffice.org, and F-Spot [06:33:34] <aljoriz> yes bye bye gimp [06:33:34] <pyc> aljoriz: launchpad :) [06:33:38] <jr_galia> gimp is considered prof. software so [06:33:47] <jr_galia> so not in 10.04 [06:33:56] <Knightlust> True, Gimp's for editing, not managing [06:34:00] <suxenexus> btw, how can one help in translating a program [06:34:12] <Knightlust> but it'll still be available in the repository [06:34:41] <aljoriz> i tried translating in launchpad but Knightlust says its better to do it upstream.. so how do i translate upstream? [06:34:51] <jaceleon> so it is not currently requiring translations as required as other packages? [06:35:01] <Knightlust> aljoriz: manually editing PO files [06:35:14] <aljoriz> what's a PO? [06:35:15] <Knightlust> it's a pain if you don't know nor have the tools [06:35:25] <aljoriz> now thats the problem [06:35:32] <Knightlust> it'll be best for beginners to utilize Launchpad [06:35:37] <pyc> aljoriz: its a file with .po extension [06:35:38] <jaceleon> yeah, a newbie problem. [06:35:51] <aljoriz> im a newbie [06:35:55] <Knightlust> since Launchpad automates tons of stuff [06:35:56] <aljoriz> newbie on linux [06:35:56] <jaceleon> I am as well [06:36:07] <jr_galia> me too [06:36:14] <aljoriz> teka ila b n00bs dito at mga xperts? [06:36:16] <suxenexus> same [06:36:20] <jaceleon> we newbies want to help, that's why we should try getting the webinars [06:36:34] <jaceleon> and study. period :). [06:36:42] <suxenexus> and perhaps some real life tutorials [06:36:44] <Knightlust> aljoriz: PO files contains instructions on what language a string/word/phrase will be used locally [06:36:46] <jonas3> noob here [06:36:52] <Knightlust> hmm, parang mali a [06:37:12] <pyc> :) [06:37:28] <jaceleon> XD [06:37:32] <pyc> ok na yun :D [06:37:35] <aljoriz> why not set a date n lahat ng noob tutulong sa pang translate via launchpad at yun n lng ang gamitin [06:37:36] <Knightlust> hehe [06:37:52] <jaceleon> nice idea, aljoriz [06:37:54] <Knightlust> yes, that's the purpose of the tutorial sessions [06:38:12] <Knightlust> i'll also announce it via Mailing List, Forums, and Website [06:38:21] <aljoriz> paki add me sa mailing list [06:38:26] <aljoriz> aljoriz at gmail dot com [06:38:56] <jaceleon> for further things about your mailing list, I suggest posting your emails on the forums.... [06:39:04] <jaceleon> :) [06:39:10] <zeroseven0183> Sir dito po http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ph [06:39:25] <Knightlust> thanks zeroseven0183 [06:39:26] <aljoriz> sir quick question lang about ubuntu membership.. sa ibang distro if you donate you become a member ganyan di ba style ng ubuntu? [06:39:44] <aljoriz> nakakatakot mag post sa forums marami spy bots [06:39:55] <Knightlust> aljoriz: no, Ubuntu's more concerned about your contributions [06:40:07] <aljoriz> nice [06:40:10] <Knightlust> if you want to donate, you might as well purchase a product [06:40:14] <zeroseven0183> you [donate] your ideas [06:40:55] <Knightlust> Anymore questions? [06:40:56] <domon> i want to donate locally though, for ubuntu-ph use [06:41:00] <aljoriz> next [06:41:23] <pyc> aljoriz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [06:41:28] <Knightlust> or if you wish to discuss the previous topic [06:42:09] <aljoriz> sa mga na late nag discuss kami about the the plan for a regional ubuntu love day at tutorial na gagawin next week 12mn-4am [06:42:09] <Knightlust> any questions on the Seminars and Events? [06:42:31] <Knightlust> aljoriz: uh, where did i say that? [06:42:36] <pyc> hehe [06:42:57] <pyc> there's beeen a confusion it seems [06:43:05] <jaceleon> I dont think that exact phrase is logged, aljoriz...... XD [06:43:16] <aljoriz> ok [06:43:22] <jonas3> for the webinars and tutorials, it starts next week, yes? would this be every day of the week? [06:43:26] <Knightlust> Ok, let's get back to the events [06:43:43] <Knightlust> Our events for 2010 will include the Lucid Lynx Release Party [06:43:49] <Knightlust> and the Regional Ubuntu Love Day [06:44:04] <pyc> the 12 M-4am is currently for the whole ubuntun community , it's in #ubuntu-classroom channel [06:44:07] <Knightlust> The Lucid Lynx will be organized by Allan Caeg [06:44:23] <e1mer> hi everyone [06:44:28] <pyc> aljoriz, but we don't have to attend it [06:44:44] <aljoriz> oh [06:44:47] <Knightlust> The Regional Ubuntu Love Day *can* be organized by anyone who wishes to do so [06:44:56] <aljoriz> brb .. dinner calls [06:45:28] <Knightlust> The 12MN-4AM Tutorial/Classroom/Sessions targets the UK and US timezones [06:46:05] <Knightlust> FYI: There's an Ongoing Session called the Ubuntu Developer Week (last day tonight/tomorrow) [06:46:10] <Knightlust> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek [06:46:21] <Knightlust> those are the sessions held from 12MN-4AM [06:46:46] <Knightlust> the Tutorials/Webinars we'll organize/start next week will target our timezone [06:47:00] <Knightlust> e.g. 8PM-10PM or 2PM-4PM [06:47:24] <suxenexus> nice. what would the tutorials/webinars contain? [06:47:28] <zeroseven0183> +1 [06:47:30] <jaceleon> 8-10 PM is ideal [06:47:33] <jaceleon> +1 [06:48:00] <Knightlust> suxenexus: I'll first prioritize Package Translations via Launchpad [06:48:15] <Knightlust> then move on to Translations via PO [06:48:24] <Knightlust> then Bug Reporting and Triaging [06:48:49] <Knightlust> and finally, Specialty Sessions such as System Administration and Programming [06:48:52] <suxenexus> tnx for the info :D [06:49:16] <Knightlust> you can check the log later at http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ [06:49:35] <suxenexus> olryt [06:49:45] <jaceleon> :-) [06:50:08] <Knightlust> hmm, you can check the topics we've already discussed here: [06:50:11] <Knightlust> [LINK] http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2010/01/29/%23ubuntu-ph.html [06:50:23] <Knightlust> So moving on.. Package Adoption [06:50:31] <pyc> suxenexus: akala ko ikaw si wers, heheh , sorry :) [06:50:48] <jaceleon> toinks! [06:51:01] <Knightlust> I'd like to encourage everyone who has some free time to adopt a package for translation [06:51:31] <Knightlust> I'll personally work on Lernid and Transmission [06:51:43] <Knightlust> iirc, Laibcoms has also adopted a package [06:51:43] <suxenexus> ok lang po. [06:52:38] <Knightlust> basically, adopt your most used application. then translate it [06:52:38] <Laibcoms> b2evolution.. more for personal training doing translations via launchpad and PO editors ^^ [06:52:58] <Knightlust> it's quite easy now that we have Launchpad [06:53:09] <Knightlust> imagine what we have to go through before editing po files manually [06:53:13] <suxenexus> can we make a more distinct chat log? (i.e. a change of color when the topic started/ended) [06:53:52] <joe_alf> Knightlust: is it possible to help on translation even if one is using different linux? ang alam ko kasi hindi ata pwede. [06:53:56] <Knightlust> suxenexus: that chat log's not maintained/administrated by us [06:54:05] <Knightlust> joe_alf: yes [06:54:23] <Knightlust> packages you translate will sooner or later be pushed to other distributions [06:54:50] <Knightlust> Process: Launchpad Translations -> Upstream Package -> pulled by distro [06:55:21] <suxenexus> oh... alright [06:55:42] <Knightlust> next up, Package Trackers [06:56:11] <Knightlust> this was suggested before, tracking accomplishments to back up Ubuntu Membership Applications. [06:56:19] <jaceleon> excuse me for a while.. I'm going idle.... checking a customer in... :-) [06:56:33] <Knightlust> but my question is, would this still be applicable today if we use Launchapad [06:56:39] <Knightlust> which has a Karma tracker? [06:57:05] <Knightlust> we could create one if you so choose [06:57:21] <rjian> wow is Jucato naka op hehe [06:57:35] <Knightlust> it has the added benefit of tracking which user is currrently translating a package [06:57:52] <Knightlust> but with Launchpad/Ubuntu, we don't really mind duplicity of work [06:57:57] <Laibcoms> I think ung Launchpad Karma ok na [06:58:15] <Knightlust> alright, any questions? [06:58:27] <e1mer> +1 lets just use launchpad extensively [06:58:34] <Laibcoms> The only thing with the karma, it counts bug reports as well [06:58:41] <rjian> Knightlust: sorry im late.. :) [06:58:48] <Knightlust> hi rjian! [06:59:14] <Knightlust> [AGREED] Use Launchpad extensively for Package Translations [06:59:15] <pyc> oist rjian dahil late ka, ikaw ang mag-oorganize ng ubuntu love day sa davao :D [06:59:43] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Locales due for libc [07:00:12] <rjian> aw nakaset ang bot hehe okie [07:00:36] <Knightlust> since this is a broad and very technical topic, would it be ok if we move this topic for another meeting? [07:00:48] <pyc> +1 [07:00:56] <zeroseven0183> +1 [07:00:58] <Knightlust> This topic might take 2hrs minimum [07:01:00] <domon> yes too much for me [07:01:02] <suxenexus> +1 [07:01:19] <rjian> haha cgi na nga +1 din [07:01:20] <Knightlust> [AGREED] Defer Locales due for libc for the next meeting [07:01:32] <jaceleon> +1 on that as long as the knowing people teach the newbies launchpad [07:01:38] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Preparation for the LoCo Team Re-approval [07:01:59] <rjian> may renewing pla hehe cool.. [07:02:08] <Knightlust> so for those who are not aware, Ubuntu-PH is now due for Re-approval [07:02:24] <suxenexus> how did that happen? [07:02:31] <jonas3> omg [07:02:36] <guitar_man> bakit??? [07:02:38] <e1mer> btw why do we need to renew? [07:02:44] <pyc> suxenexus: just an S.O.P [07:02:47] <Knightlust> We haven't been scheduled yet, but it'll come probably fourth quarter of this year [07:03:08] <Knightlust> The re-approval is meant to assess which LoCo teams need help [07:03:12] <dodimar> anong kailangan para sa renewal? [07:03:22] <Knightlust> dodimar: mostly activities [07:03:28] <e1mer> like? [07:03:29] <pyc> at body count [07:03:31] <Knightlust> that's the reason for this meeting [07:03:37] <jaceleon> ano ang duration ng approval nila? 1 year? [07:03:39] <Knightlust> yes, and numbers [07:03:59] <Knightlust> jaceleon: they've been discussing annual renewal/re-approval [07:04:10] <Knightlust> either way, we have to be prepared [07:04:14] <zeroseven0183> What do you mean body count/numbers? [07:04:33] <zeroseven0183> Numbers of active users in a LoCo or number of Ubuntu members in a Loco? [07:04:43] <jaceleon> so how many people do we need for the count to be sustained? [07:04:44] <pyc> zeroseven0183: yes [07:04:50] <Knightlust> zeroseven0183: yes, active users in a LoCo team [07:05:23] <Knightlust> 15 or more [07:05:45] <Knightlust> haven't seen/heard approvals for LoCo's with 10 or less members yet [07:05:46] <jaceleon> I can see we passed on the numbers already. [07:05:52] <dodimar> how do they define 'active'? [07:05:59] <Knightlust> right, right, but we need activities [07:06:02] <jaceleon> good question [07:06:03] <otep> yep [07:06:11] <Knightlust> those online tutorials, package translations would help greatly [07:06:22] <Knightlust> not to mention seminars and offline activities [07:06:22] <pyc> true [07:06:24] <otep> Launchpad acitivities? [07:06:36] <otep> *acti [07:06:42] <jaceleon> I guess it's counted as an activity, otep. [07:06:48] <Knightlust> FYI: did you know that we could count eyeballs/inuman session as an Ubuntu activity? [07:06:57] <acp_> how about release parties we had? [07:07:14] <guitar_man> inum nalang tayo everyday!!! [07:07:20] <Knightlust> so for those in the greater manila area, i would encourage you to setup your eyeball dates! [07:07:22] <zeroseven0183> hehehe [07:07:26] <jaceleon> LOL guitar_man. [07:07:28] <otep> ok [07:07:38] <otep> so who's near malate right now hahahaha [07:07:38] <rjian> kami ni pyc bahala sa mindanao haha [07:07:46] <pyc> also they really value offline activities, heheh, happy happy! [07:07:53] <jaceleon> me, near sa malate [07:07:54] <Knightlust> too bad i'm 6hrs away, otherwise, i'll organize a meetup everynight [07:07:55] <Knightlust> hehehe [07:07:58] <rjian> otep: your starting na nga [07:08:04] <jaceleon> yey! [07:08:17] <guitar_man> bukas para hindi biglaan [07:08:20] <Knightlust> true, so true. Ubuntu really values offline activities [07:08:28] <suxenexus> wow [07:08:42] <jaceleon> I like to see Ubuntu sers in flesh [07:08:44] <rjian> Knightlust: we can include the event sfd right? [07:08:45] <jr_galia> taga visayas naman? [07:08:47] <jaceleon> *users [07:08:49] <e1mer> fyi, the techbar here in G2iX is always available for meetups [07:08:50] <Knightlust> Ok, there are four things we need to meet. Resources, Membership, Roadmap, and Experience [07:08:52] <dodimar> may niluluto na para sa souther bulacan area.. [07:08:52] <pyc> rjian , tagay tayo minsan, heheh! :D [07:08:54] <acp_> I plan to organize here in my place baao [07:08:57] <Knightlust> rjian: yes, we can definitely include it [07:09:05] <Knightlust> especially since you organized one [07:09:08] <suxenexus> i've heard there's a lot of bulucan users who are active [07:09:20] <jaceleon> ang layo nmn ng bulacan e [07:09:26] <jaceleon> let's meetup na lang sa SM [07:09:26] <guitar_man> dodimar:may coffee session kami kila dodimar! [07:09:27] <rjian> Knightlust: cool.. meron pa iba this May.. Mindanao Source camp.. hehe [07:09:28] <Knightlust> Resources we have: Mailing List, Forum, Website and an IRC Channel. [07:09:31] <jaceleon> as agreed on forums [07:09:35] <suxenexus> sm what? [07:09:43] <jaceleon> SM North daw.... [07:10:00] <Knightlust> kelan? baka makababa ako? [07:10:21] <jaceleon> aun lang, ala pang date ung meetup... [07:10:21] <rjian> pyc: kailan ang ubuntu Love day? [07:10:25] <e1mer> Knightlust, btw did ubuntu-ph got a boot or someting during the north luzon foss summit? i think those are opportunities for us [07:10:28] <otep> dapat me maayos tayong listahan ng mga members [07:10:41] <guitar_man> @Knightlust wala pang date...kwentuhan palang [07:10:43] <rjian> hehe un wiki pla natin? [07:10:53] <rjian> d ba may list tau sa Wiki? [07:11:02] <suxenexus> kung sm north, ok lang naman. :D [07:11:13] <jaceleon> +1 on SM North [07:11:22] <suxenexus> +1 [07:11:28] <acp_> +1 [07:11:35] <guitar_man> yung luzon foss ba yung open source day?? [07:11:49] <Knightlust> [ACTION] For further Discussion: First Quarter 2010 Meetup [07:11:57] <guitar_man> +1 sm north [07:12:00] <Knightlust> guitar_man: nope, ibang event un [07:12:25] <otep> para yung magkakalapit pwedeng mag-organize ng kahit weekly meetup (kahit para magkita-kita lang) [07:12:26] <Knightlust> e1mer: no, too bad u-ph wasn't part of the event. [07:12:35] <joe_alf> guitar_man: bulacan user meetup yung SM North [07:12:35] <Knightlust> but u-ph did attend that event [07:12:36] <rjian> psy: naka log ka d ba? PM me hehe paste doon.. thnx [07:12:37] <Knightlust> hehehe [07:13:06] <Knightlust> ok, as i was saying... [07:13:12] <rjian> Knightlust: ang Luzon Foss? d ba andun lng un sa inyo? hehe [07:13:20] <Knightlust> there are four things we need to meet. Resources, Membership, Roadmap, and Experience [07:13:29] <Knightlust> rjian: yes, 15mins walk from our house [07:13:33] <suxenexus> [idea] meet-up/quick hands-on at SM North EDSA [07:13:35] <Knightlust> Resources we have: Mailing List, Forum, Website and an IRC Channel. [07:14:17] <rjian> Knightlust: wiki pla? [07:14:18] <Knightlust> [ACTION] For further discussion in the forums: SM North EDSA Meetup [07:14:19] <rjian> :) [07:14:28] <jaceleon> makakagastos din ako ng P 100 just to go back and forth sa SM North..... [07:14:30] <Knightlust> ahh yes, we also have the wiki [07:14:44] <guitar_man> ako nga 150 [07:14:50] <rjian> pys: tau saan tau mag meet? :) [07:14:51] <Knightlust> Next up, we have Membership. we more than satisfy that requirement [07:14:56] <suxenexus> ako mga 100 [07:15:25] <Knightlust> 3rd is Roadmap - which is the purpose of this meeting [07:15:26] <jaceleon> okay, we need to talk about our budget for the meetups [07:15:29] <rjian> teka ilan na lng ba kami sa Mindanao? [07:15:31] <e1mer> Knightlust, wdym 'Experience' ? [07:15:38] <Knightlust> and lastly, we need to satisfy Experience [07:16:05] <Knightlust> which we'll satisfy after we've had those online tutorials and various offline activities [07:16:37] <Knightlust> any questions on the LoCo Team Re-approval? [07:16:45] <jaceleon> nope. [07:16:53] <jaceleon> :-) [07:16:56] <guitar_man> wala na sir [07:17:00] <dodimar> so, this meeting will be our roadmap? [07:17:20] <jaceleon> we should make it our roadmap.... [07:17:42] <Knightlust> dodimar: yes, we're actually roadmapping [07:17:53] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Regional Contact Persons [07:18:02] <rjian> haha [07:18:05] <rjian> Mindanao sino? [07:18:05] <guitar_man> wow [07:18:06] <jaceleon> XD [07:18:15] <str0ng> rjian, ikaw! :) [07:18:22] <guitar_man> as in 13 region??? [07:18:30] <dodimar> Regional: Luzon Visayas ang Mindanao.. medyo masyadong malaki.. [07:18:34] <jaceleon> basta ako, the ubuntu-ph is a good source of conatc people...... [07:18:40] <jaceleon> *contact [07:18:42] <acp_> Cam Sur? [07:18:50] <Knightlust> alright, I understand that need for a regional contact persons. We don't have to ask 13 people to represent the 13 regions since we're not that many [07:18:54] <rjian> str0ng: andyan ka pla haha d kita na notice [07:18:57] <jr_galia> caraga? [07:19:20] <str0ng> jr_galia, you from caraga? particularly? [07:19:45] <Knightlust> The regional contact persons will be to represent Ubuntu-PH and Ubuntu in their area [07:19:53] <guitar_man> so luzon visayas mindanao lang? [07:20:01] <dodimar> @knightlust, how bout we survey the location of active members.. tapos kung saan yung madaming members.. they can elect their contact person also.. [07:20:04] <jaceleon> yes, LuzViMinda only [07:20:20] <pyc> guitar_man: saan pa? spratley? heheh [07:20:23] <zeroseven0183> How abou, North Luzon, NCR, South Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao? [07:20:29] <jaceleon> XD [07:20:32] <jr_galia> yah strong! but now in leyte [07:20:34] <Knightlust> Jucato: came up with this idea simply because Luzon people couldn't easily attend activities in Mindanao [07:20:36] <rjian> haha un luzon ang malaki haha [07:20:36] <guitar_man> NCR [07:20:39] <zeroseven0183> *about [07:20:44] <jr_galia> strong: from butuan here [07:20:49] <rjian> Knightlust: agreed [07:20:49] <otep> gawa muna tayo list =p [07:21:05] <Knightlust> [IDEA] Survey the locations of active members, then elect their own contact persons [07:21:05] <rjian> otep: i think we have it on the wiki list haha [07:21:12] <pyc> jr_galia: i thought you're from cebu? [07:21:13] <zeroseven0183> Survey is a good idea [07:21:23] <jaceleon> suggestion: we should make a thread on the forums regarding locations of members [07:21:29] <otep> rjian: i mean, is it updated? [07:21:37] <zeroseven0183> or something like Google forms [07:21:40] <jr_galia> pyc: from leyte here [07:21:54] <Knightlust> [IDEA] Create a forum thread regarding locations of members [07:21:55] <pyc> i see :) [07:22:14] <Knightlust> [IDEA] Document Member Locations in the Wiki [07:22:46] <pyc> [IDEA] locations is best laid out in google maps :) [07:23:23] <pyc> although we already have that, but it's probably old [07:23:45] <Knightlust> right, and needs updating [07:23:51] <jaceleon> uh-huh [07:24:06] <Knightlust> so, questions on Regional Contact Persons? [07:24:14] <rjian> pyc: kaw un contact sa mindanao? hihi [07:24:55] <pyc> rjian: ikaw din para dalawa tayo :D [07:25:15] <Knightlust> alright, moving on [07:25:21] <viril> hi [07:25:23] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] CD Request Process [07:25:34] <viril> sorry i'm late [07:25:42] <Knightlust> hi viril! [07:25:49] <guitar_man> yan...maganda yan... [07:26:09] <Knightlust> the current process for ordering CD's are only available to Ubuntu Members [07:26:28] <viril> ok read muna ako. hello dax. [07:26:28] <Knightlust> at the moment, we only have 4 persons qualified to request CDs [07:26:58] <Knightlust> Loell (pyc), Zak (zakame), Jerome (jsgotangco), and me [07:27:09] <suxenexus> ayun. I had problems in that area. I haven't recieved my copy of 8.10 several months ago. Then Ubuntu can't send me another one, telling me that I exceeded the maximum requests [07:27:16] <Knightlust> too bad Jucato has resigned [07:27:35] <jaceleon> I hate the post office...they are so CORRUPTED...I SWEAR! [07:27:50] <guitar_man> Knightlust: limited ba ang number ng cd na pwede nyo ma-order??? [07:28:04] <Knightlust> Fortunately, as an approved LoCo, we're granted a box of CDs for every release. Though I'm not sure how many [07:28:16] <dodimar> so, the best way will be local reproduction of cds.. [07:28:20] <Knightlust> guitar_man: yes, one box only [07:28:37] <Knightlust> but we're qualified to order a Conference Pack if we organize a big event [07:28:56] <Knightlust> dodimar: or download an ISO [07:29:13] <guitar_man> ok din yung reprodution nalang tayo,para bawas sa shipment [07:29:27] <Knightlust> the current release(Kamic Koala) CDs are available from zakame [07:29:41] <suxenexus> That's what I'm trying to give to one of my org's event. Unfortunately, I dunno the mechanics T_T [07:29:43] <dodimar> download and burn, then give to those who are in need.. [07:29:56] <domon> local reproduction is good, we could also give out on computer stores [07:29:59] <Knightlust> just send him an email with your name, address, zip code, and contact number [07:30:09] <guitar_man> pero iba pa din kung may copy ka,collectibles kasi.lol [07:30:22] <suxenexus> can we make it look like retail cds? With the cd cover at least :D [07:30:27] <viril> i gave a lot before i left national book store hehehe buhos ko training sa kanila e kaso generic cds lang :) [07:30:39] <Knightlust> The current process is still up for debates [07:31:10] <Knightlust> third countries such as the Philippines may be exempted [07:31:31] <Knightlust> we could be allowed to order CDs, but the decision still rests with Canonical [07:31:34] <viril> parang souvenir ko sa kanila and thanks narin sa pag attend ng training. di nila alam, last training ko na ng Linux and Ubuntu sa kanila. hehehe [07:31:56] <scriptwarlock> good evening everybody sorry for being late guess im going to catch the topics later sa logs.... [07:32:06] <Knightlust> will provide you guys with updates in the coming weeks [07:32:19] <Knightlust> but at the moment, non-Ubuntu Members can't request for CDs [07:32:21] <viril> hello scriptwarlock [07:32:25] <rjian> dapat kau 4 ang regional coordinator [07:32:35] * scriptwarlock wave [07:32:51] <Knightlust> scriptwarlock: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2010/01/29/%23ubuntu-ph.html [07:33:01] <scriptwarlock> ty knightlust [07:33:31] <Knightlust> Do we need to set up a page or a wiki on how to order CDs from the local Ubuntu Leaders? [07:33:49] <Knightlust> para na rin ma-track kung ilang CDs na ang na-disseminate [07:33:51] <dodimar> @Knightlust, maybe a sticky on the forum would do.. [07:33:53] <viril> tnx [07:34:11] <Knightlust> dodimar: right [07:34:17] <dodimar> since mas madalas dun mga eubunteros.. [07:34:22] <dodimar> *ubunteros [07:34:28] <Knightlust> pyc: would you be so kind as to create a how to thread on ordering CDs [07:34:36] <viril> ah kala ko european ubunteros e hehehe [07:34:41] <pyc> Knightlust: sure :) [07:34:48] <Knightlust> thanks pyc [07:35:10] <pyc> i'll have it up by tommorow [07:35:17] <Knightlust> [ACTION] Loell to create a forum thread on CD Request Howto [07:35:35] <pyc> but what will be the instructions? [07:35:37] <Knightlust> anymore questions on the CD Request Process? [07:35:53] <Knightlust> pyc: basically, email the current recipient of the box [07:35:56] <Knightlust> which is zakame [07:36:12] <pyc> ok :) [07:36:21] <Knightlust> then provide their name, mailing address, zip code, and contact no. [07:36:27] <Knightlust> i'll ping zakame on that later [07:36:32] <guitar_man> download mode nalang [07:36:43] <pyc> ok :) [07:36:48] <Knightlust> thanks pyc [07:36:50] <Knightlust> moving on... [07:36:59] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Website [07:37:04] <jaceleon> yung download mode ng ISO is ONLY for people with fast net connection [07:37:14] <Knightlust> [LINK] http://ubuntu-ph.org/ [07:37:18] <jaceleon> that is NOT the case in other parts ng bansa [07:37:31] <jaceleon> so CD distributions will be a great help. [07:38:05] <Knightlust> Our website is currently hosted by 110mb.com [07:38:19] <guitar_man> hindi din updated [07:38:23] <viril> hi jeps [07:38:36] <jaceleon> I noticed na out-of-date na yung website [07:38:36] <Knightlust> It is currently being maintaned by me. [07:38:41] <jepong> sorry im late... [07:38:51] <Knightlust> er.. ung Drupal ba ang out of date? [07:38:59] <viril> ok lang jepong late din kme e hehehe [07:39:05] <jaceleon> XD [07:39:06] <Knightlust> or ung stories/topics? [07:39:20] <viril> Knightlust, i think yung topics [07:39:24] <viril> news etc [07:39:33] <guitar_man> yung topic [07:39:34] <Severity1> no new contents [07:39:35] <Knightlust> right, very few contributors [07:39:36] <Knightlust> hehehe [07:39:40] <scriptwarlock> anong tulong na pwede kong gawin para sa website [07:39:41] <jaceleon> drupal being a bit out-of-date is fine...but contents should be something up-to-date [07:39:52] <jaceleon> kasi po, I suggest poeple the website [07:39:55] <Knightlust> I'll work on it. in the mean time, we need more contributors [07:39:57] <Severity1> Knightlust, im willing to contribute [07:40:00] <jaceleon> whenever I suggest Ubuntu on them [07:40:00] <guitar_man> maganda kung may stories din [07:40:00] <viril> gnun pwede pala magcontribute dun? hehehe [07:40:18] <Knightlust> if you wish, send me your name and login via email and I'll make you administrator of our website [07:40:20] <jaceleon> para makita nila na madami ang rason to use Ubuntu [07:40:22] <dodimar> pwedeng mga stories/testimonies.. [07:40:37] <Severity1> 'kay [07:40:48] <viril> stories? pwede! ehehehhe [07:40:49] <guitar_man> tutorials din sir [07:40:54] <jaceleon> yay! [07:40:55] <scriptwarlock> are we going to talk figures? [07:41:06] <jaceleon> stories and tutorials! [07:41:09] <Knightlust> [ACTION] Add more Website Administrators, Request will be sent to Dax via email [07:41:09] <viril> anong klaseng stories? hehehe [07:41:11] <Severity1> yush [07:41:14] <Laibcoms> [IDEA] For the website, add a Planet feature that will also show on the frontpage or a special link/category. [07:41:31] <jaceleon> green jokes :lol: joke! [07:41:38] <jaceleon> ndi nmn [07:41:44] * ojtibi is away: Park mode, archiving chat history. [07:41:45] <guitar_man> ubuntu joke [07:41:46] <guitar_man> haha [07:41:57] <Orlee> hi guys [07:41:58] <Knightlust> alright, I've been waiting for this meeting to announce that I'll be donating that/my 110mb.com account to the community [07:42:01] <viril> guitar_man, pwede! hehehehe [07:42:01] <Orlee> sorry im late [07:42:13] <Severity1> \o/ [07:42:15] <viril> yehey tnx Knightlust [07:42:21] <jaceleon> oh my, sir dax! that's charitable of you! [07:42:25] <viril> halu Orlee don't worry, late din kme [07:42:26] * dodimar yahoo.. [07:42:26] <guitar_man> parang tipong komiks... [07:42:27] <Severity1> \o\ [07:42:34] <viril> we are so... filipino hehehehehehe afir [07:42:35] <Knightlust> access such as usernames and passwords will be shared to the other 2 Ubuntu Leaders - Loell and Zak [07:42:35] <Orlee> ha... ok [07:42:41] <jaceleon> afir! [07:42:47] <Knightlust> I'll send them the details tonight [07:43:24] <dodimar> good job sir dax... [07:43:24] <Knightlust> however, I have one condition - as long as the website's hosted on 110mb, it'll be owned by the current LoCo Contact [07:43:36] <jaceleon> naturally. [07:43:43] <Knightlust> after my term as the LoCo Contact, it'll pass it on to my successor [07:43:58] <Knightlust> the other two Leaders would make sure of that [07:44:48] <viril> naku mahirap maging successor. sha na magbabayad ng 110mb heheheh joke [07:44:53] <Knightlust> now, if and when we move on to another host, and have no need for the 110mb account... [07:45:04] <Knightlust> i'd like to have it back [07:45:07] <Knightlust> viril: it's already paid for [07:45:09] <jaceleon> I guess the website is something we can't settle on a single meeting... We should talk about it further on the forums. [07:45:10] <rjian> pyc: got to go.. keep me posted.. [07:45:15] <rjian> Knightlust: bye [07:45:19] <rjian> bye everyone [07:45:21] <pyc> rjian: ok :) [07:45:21] <viril> wow cool prepaid hehehe [07:45:23] <jaceleon> bye [07:45:26] <viril> hi rjian ingat [07:45:30] * Severity1 waves at rjian [07:45:34] <Knightlust> 110mb.com account allows one-time purchases [07:45:48] <viril> jaceleon, honga dami nagreact e hehehe [07:45:54] <rjian> eow viril thanks [07:46:00] <domon> how much? [07:46:12] <Knightlust> [ACTION] Dax to send hosting details to Loell and Zak after the meeting [07:46:44] <viril> si mootbot ba ready made na ba yan o u coded him/her/it? hehehe [07:46:48] <Knightlust> Next up is Planet [07:46:56] <Knightlust> viril: bot ng Ubuntu Scribes [07:46:57] <Severity1> \o/ [07:46:59] <jaceleon> planet? [07:47:11] <Knightlust> or more specifically, PlanetPlanet [07:47:19] <viril> cool [07:47:28] <Knightlust> Ubuntu-PH doesn't have a Feed Aggregator [07:47:29] <viril> whatever that is hehehe [07:47:38] <Severity1> is it something like Planet Ubuntu? [07:47:47] <Knightlust> the standard for LoCo communities is PlanetPlanet [07:47:54] <Knightlust> Severity1: exactly like Planet Ubuntu [07:48:04] <jaceleon> PlanetPlanet? [07:48:14] <jaceleon> sorry, I'm a bit clueless diyan.... [07:48:19] <Severity1> can i post the link for planet ubntu? [07:48:34] <Knightlust> now, the problem is this. The current host - 110mb - is insufficient to run PlanetPlanet due to lack of Python apps support [07:48:39] <guitar_man> http://planet.ubuntu.com/ [07:48:44] <Knightlust> and terminal access [07:48:48] <Severity1> there :) [07:48:57] <zeroseven0183> sort of blog [07:49:14] <jaceleon> now that is painful....... alang maxadng apps... [07:49:32] <Severity1> seperate server? [07:49:33] <Knightlust> I know this will be up for further discussion, but we will need your input/suggestion on alternative feed aggregators [07:49:55] <Knightlust> we have MoonMoon - which is a PHP application, but I'd like to first get your feedback [07:50:20] <Knightlust> [ACTION] To decide on what feed aggregator to use for Ubuntu-PH Planet [07:50:32] <Knightlust> [LINK] http://ubuntu-ph.org/planet [07:50:52] <viril> napeke ako nung una ha. ubuntu argentina lumabas e hehehe [07:51:10] <Orlee> site not available at this time. [07:51:32] <Knightlust> Orlee: it doesn't exist, still up for further discussion [07:51:38] <viril> ah ok hehehe [07:51:39] <Orlee> ha ok [07:51:53] <Knightlust> questions regarding our Website? [07:52:37] <viril> none [07:52:47] <dodimar> habol question.. [07:53:10] <dodimar> pictures nung mga nakaraang meetups.. pwede din ba natin add sa website.. [07:53:14] <viril> a link sana sa website ng webchat para sa mga walang irc client [07:53:21] <jaceleon> it would be great to have those. [07:53:24] <guitar_man> hindi naman kailangan teknikal ang laman ng planet diba??? [07:53:30] <Laibcoms> ooh, may MoonMoon pala. I only know of PlanetPlanet and (Planet) Venus [07:53:36] <Knightlust> dodimar: yes, in fact, I'm planning on doing that tomorrow [07:53:37] <Knightlust> hehehe [07:53:41] <viril> honga sayang naman mga gandang lalaki natin dun sa pics hahaha [07:53:53] <dodimar> hahaha... sayang wala ako dun sa mga picts.. hehehe.. [07:54:05] <dodimar> dahil wla ako sa event... tsugug.. [07:54:07] <dodimar> :) [07:54:08] <Knightlust> Ok, our last topic for tonight [07:54:14] <Knightlust> [TOPIC] Other Matters [07:54:21] <str0ng> eto na.. [07:54:23] <viril> gnun? dodimar kaya pala kulang mga gwapo e ikaw pala kulang hehehe [07:54:26] <Knightlust> Any issues you'd like to discuss? [07:54:29] <str0ng> ito ang gusto kong topic.. [07:54:32] <str0ng> hehe [07:54:35] <jaceleon> yung pong stickers [07:54:36] <Knightlust> like kung gaano ka-gwapo ni dodimar? [07:54:39] <guitar_man> meetup na! [07:54:40] <viril> wb scriptwarlock [07:54:43] <jaceleon> ano? [07:54:44] <dodimar> hahaha.. [07:54:49] <jaceleon> XD [07:54:52] <viril> ayan naaaa [07:54:55] <Knightlust> hehehe [07:54:56] <jaceleon> okay serious...yung stickers [07:54:57] <guitar_man> meetup nalang.lol [07:54:58] <acp_> ask ko lang sino from bicol here (naga)? [07:54:58] <scriptwarlock> naputol inet sa waterfront [07:55:06] <Knightlust> stickers... what about the stickers? [07:55:06] <viril> andami nang nangangati sa Other Matters e di makahirit knina e [07:55:08] <viril> hahahahaha [07:55:19] <jaceleon> kasi [07:55:30] <jaceleon> I propose na yung mga nabigyan ni brgenst [07:55:39] <jaceleon> e bigyan yung mga di naabutan [07:55:41] <viril> guitar_man, walang chicks dito dala ka naman para meetup. cgurado dami pupunta hjahahahha [07:55:48] <jaceleon> lalo na yung mga close nmn ang area [07:56:12] <Knightlust> jaceleon: is it the one being given away on the forums? [07:56:23] <viril> wb suxenexus [07:56:24] <Orlee> sir may MOTM po ba ito? para sa mga late na tulad ko. [07:56:31] <jaceleon> yes po [07:56:39] <Orlee> thans [07:57:06] <jaceleon> we need to share those since I know sobra sobra binigay nila sa atin [07:57:14] <Knightlust> jaceleon: i'm afraid i can't get involved in that [07:57:32] <jaceleon> I don't say get involve.... [07:57:32] <domon> maybe ask some members during sm north meet up [07:57:36] <Knightlust> that's a personal thing, neither Ubuntu nor the Ubuntu-PH community was involved in it in the first place [07:57:38] <jaceleon> I say just encourage [07:57:41] <viril> Orlee, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2010/01/29/%23ubuntu-ph.html <-- pasensha na sa mga makukulit na comments hehehehe [07:57:46] <Knightlust> ohh, ok [07:57:49] <Orlee> pahingi naman [07:57:52] <jaceleon> kasi option ng owner if they want to give some... [07:57:56] <jaceleon> see? [07:58:09] <viril> honga ako din penge. pengeng t-shirt hehehe [07:58:17] <Orlee> viril: many thanks [07:58:19] <Knightlust> but still, printout and mailing stickers costs money... that's something i'd like to stay away from [07:58:28] <viril> Orlee, welcome :D [07:58:29] <Knightlust> but i'll see what i can do [07:58:40] <jaceleon> well give your stickers on meetups [07:58:43] <Knightlust> and will contact him next week [07:58:50] <jaceleon> I guess okay naman po yun, right? [07:58:52] <viril> why not ... give instructions nalang pano gumawa ng sarili dba? [07:58:58] <viril> ng stickers i mean [07:59:05] <pyc> yes we badly need sponsors, if it goes offocial with ubuntu-ph [07:59:06] <guitar_man> Knightlust: pwede natin kontkin si bergenst and fund for the sticker [07:59:09] <Knightlust> hmm, nice idea viril [07:59:14] <Orlee> how about t-shirt for our loco? [07:59:30] <Severity1> shirts! [07:59:30] <Knightlust> [IDEA] Tutorial on how to create stickers and shirts with our logo [07:59:33] <viril> kasi ako rin di ko alam e (hehehe takas sa trabaho hahaha joke) [07:59:33] <jaceleon> um...the t-shirt, now that you mention it...I want one...T_T [07:59:35] <scriptwarlock> sponsors of what? tshirts? [07:59:43] <guitar_man> iba kasi yung quality ng sticker ni bergenst [07:59:52] <jaceleon> oo nga [07:59:53] <Knightlust> guitar_man: that's the problem - funds [08:00:07] <pyc> scriptwarlock: yes, dodonat ka? heheh [08:00:14] <domon> you will need sponsors and donation funds [08:00:14] <scriptwarlock> im in [08:00:21] <viril> oi wag nyoko asahan ngyn B.U.M. equipment ako ngayon e hanap pako work hahaha [08:00:40] <scriptwarlock> i'll use what my website can generate para may maibalik ako sa communtiy [08:00:50] <scriptwarlock> unity [08:00:52] <jaceleon> :-) [08:00:56] <viril> guitar_man, anu quality? baka pwede nya turo pano gawa? [08:01:16] <jaceleon> uqlity means yung klase ng paper na ginamit for the sticker. [08:01:21] <jaceleon> *quality [08:01:28] <Severity1> i think he got it from a certain company [08:01:36] <Severity1> system something pangalan [08:01:38] <viril> ayun tnx so anong paper yun? [08:01:42] <Knightlust> System76 [08:01:44] <zeroseven0183> System76 [08:01:45] <Severity1> yup [08:01:58] <scriptwarlock> but in need cguro some breakdowns para alam ko rin kung magkano pledge ko [08:02:01] <guitar_man> viril: yung sticker ni bergenst waterproof..tingin ko siya ang nagprint nun or may printing business talaga siya... [08:02:01] <viril> san makakabili etc etc? [08:02:05] <pyc> mahal yun ;) [08:02:05] <jaceleon> you also need the jpeg/pdf of that too. [08:02:17] <jaceleon> and a printer of course [08:02:17] <domon> nope i think he got it from sticker works in sm [08:02:23] <Knightlust> hmm, here's what I can do, I'll try to solicit help from other (read: richer) LoCos [08:02:32] <viril> guitar_man, wow high quality. baka nga pati ink yung waterproof [08:02:41] <Knightlust> [ACTION] Solicit sponsorship for stickers from other LoCos [08:02:51] <guitar_man> hindi po yun galing sa system76... [08:02:51] <jaceleon> yun nga e...HQ yung mga stickers ni brgenst [08:02:56] <Severity1> how do we solicit? [08:03:07] <Knightlust> Severity1: i'll ask them [08:03:15] <guitar_man> local lang yung gawa ng sticker at nakalagay LOcal team pH [08:03:20] <scriptwarlock> dali lang naman solicit pero importante may tatak communtiy para legitimate [08:03:28] <Knightlust> other LoCos already came up with cellphone socks with a small logo [08:03:35] <viril> solicit? sayang tapos na pasko e sosolicit sana ako namamasko po! hahahaha [08:03:49] <scriptwarlock> di kailangan ng pasko ang solicit [08:03:51] <Knightlust> some might be kind enough to provide us with stickers [08:04:00] <Severity1> i have some friends from OHIO loco and I think i'll ask my master for help [08:04:07] <scriptwarlock> somebody here nagsolicit na ng afor uniform sa basketball [08:04:09] <jaceleon> I think they can provide some funds....but I'm not sure of the other LoCos' generosity..... [08:04:16] <guitar_man> speaking of t-shirt...post ko po yung gagawin kong t-shirt sa forum para mikilatis nyo... [08:04:35] <Laibcoms> [LINK] Peso Sign (for future reference) - http://laibcoms.asia/blog/labox/how-to-type-the-peso-sign [08:04:40] <viril> uy oo nga sports basketball pwede! [08:04:45] <jaceleon> yay, guitar_man! +1 [08:04:55] <scriptwarlock> ano dikit nyo sa uniform? ang logo? [08:05:07] <Knightlust> hehehe, magandang idea yan [08:05:10] <acp_> cool! [08:05:19] <Knightlust> patch with our logo [08:05:34] <viril> de, didikit namin mukha ni jaceleon, yung major sponsor [08:05:39] <viril> wow taray nangangampanya hahaha [08:05:43] <Orlee> hehehehe. [08:06:03] <guitar_man> http://sandilands.info/sgordon/images/UbuntuLogo.png [08:06:06] <Knightlust> hehehe [08:06:07] <Orlee> kakandidato po a? [08:06:17] <Knightlust> ok, anything else? [08:06:20] <guitar_man> eto lang muna ang ilalagay ko http://sandilands.info/sgordon/images/UbuntuLogo.png [08:06:24] <jaceleon> sabihin dun nabahaan kayo...LOL [08:06:31] <viril> hahaha [08:06:43] <scriptwarlock> ano bigyan nyo ako ng solicitation letter at deliver ko yan sa mga politiko dito lalo na malapit na eleksyion [08:07:02] <jaceleon> ayan, mas assured ang funds sa mga politiko [08:07:03] <viril> diba maganda yung loco logo lagay? [08:07:07] <zeroseven0183> seize the moment ba [08:07:07] <Knightlust> ugh, wala tayong mahihita sa mga pulitiko ng pilipinas [08:07:11] <jaceleon> election period na pala!] [08:07:15] <scriptwarlock> yung magandang pagkagawa ha at may mga links na papunta talaga sa website natin or UF [08:07:16] <viril> scriptwarlock, oo nga no? [08:07:27] <Severity1> bka lagyan pa nila ng vote noynoy sa ilalim ng logo ng ubuntu [08:07:34] <zeroseven0183> :-) [08:07:36] <Knightlust> hahahaha [08:07:38] <scriptwarlock> lets start making funds then gamitin to para sa mga bagaybagay [08:07:41] <jaceleon> ay oo nga... [08:07:41] <viril> scriptwarlock, pero make sure na walang mukha nila dun ha. tiny name lang nila lalagay hehehe [08:07:54] <scriptwarlock> syempre font nila is 6pt [08:07:55] <jaceleon> o kaya, friends of noynoy sa ilalim ng Ubuntu PH [08:07:56] <guitar_man> tama....funds!!! [08:07:56] <zeroseven0183> Are we allowed to generate funds? [08:07:58] <Severity1> is there a process in soliciting stickers from other ;ocos? [08:07:58] <Severity1> sorry for taking long [08:07:58] <Severity1> Severity1: Generally just mail the mailing list of the loco in question [08:08:11] <viril> oo nga need natin action agad before elections! make money! [08:08:12] <zeroseven0183> LoCo funds? [08:08:29] <domon> funds is really important, it make the ball rolling, aside from volunteerism [08:08:31] <Knightlust> [IDEA] fundraising for stickers, shirts, etc. [08:08:40] <Knightlust> zeroseven0183: as a LoCo - no we're not allowed [08:08:41] <scriptwarlock> but im in to pledge [08:08:49] <viril> mukhang si scriptwarlock dami konek sa politicians ha [08:08:56] <Knightlust> we have to appoint someone who'll handle the funds [08:08:57] <jaceleon> uh-huh... [08:09:15] <jaceleon> why don't Loell do it? [08:09:19] <jaceleon> :-) [08:09:24] <pyc> no [08:09:25] <Laibcoms> going to leave na muna. may Kubuntu demo/presentation/proposal pa ko tomorrow @ 10am ^_^ [08:09:33] <Knightlust> goodluck Laibcoms [08:09:37] <viril> naku someone na di mabisyo ha hehehe [08:09:37] <Laibcoms> tnx tnx! [08:09:46] * Severity1 waves @ Laibcoms [08:09:47] <jepong> go kubuntu! [08:09:48] <viril> uy ingat papa Laibcoms [08:09:54] <Knightlust> ok, anything else before we wrap up our meeting? [08:09:59] <viril> goodluck! sa audience! ehhehehe joke [08:10:07] <jaceleon> ndi ako qualified sa mga ganyan at me bisyo ako...hehehehehe [08:10:08] <zeroseven0183> free tshirt [08:10:22] <viril> aba lalo nako hahaha [08:10:24] <Severity1> will we push with soliciting from other locos? [08:10:45] <Knightlust> Severity1: yes [08:10:51] <jaceleon> We should. [08:10:53] <guitar_man> pano na yung sm north meet up??? [08:11:01] <jaceleon> ay meetup nga pala! [08:11:03] <viril> guitar_man, uy wen yan? [08:11:03] <Knightlust> guitar_man: sa forums [08:11:10] <guitar_man> ok [08:11:10] <jaceleon> let's seal a date na. [08:11:15] <Severity1> may events? [08:11:16] <guitar_man> sa forums nalang... [08:11:20] <Orlee> kailan po un meet-up [08:11:45] <scriptwarlock> email me lang sa details ha kung saang bulsa ko hulog ang figure..... maliit lang to at sana makatulong [08:11:58] <Knightlust> alright, let's call it a night [08:12:02] <vhinz> Hi..am I too late? [08:12:06] <pyc> +1 [08:12:07] <suxenexus> for the record, san po ba yung link sa loco forum [08:12:09] <viril> hi vhinz just in time ... [08:12:13] <joe_alf> sana night time yung meetup [08:12:14] <viril> for wrap up hehehe [08:12:14] <Orlee> hi Vhinz [08:12:18] <jaceleon> Okay, pahinga na sir dax! buh-bye! [08:12:20] <vhinz> now I think so [08:12:20] <scriptwarlock> hahaha [08:12:22] <vhinz> just in time for wrap up? [08:12:24] <vhinz> wahhhh [08:12:25] <Knightlust> bye all! [08:12:29] <Knightlust> #endmeeting Meeting ended.
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