Meeting opened by AlanBell at 19:03

• <brobostigon> MooDoo: hey,

  <brobostigon> o/

  <AlanBell> [TOPIC] review of action items from last meeting

review of action items from last meeting

• <StevenR> o/

  <brunogirin> o/

  <MooDoo> o/

  <brobostigon> lol

  <AlanBell> do have a look and add stuff to the report whilst I go hunt for actions in the last minutes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/11/June

  <MooDoo> wow pretty bare

  <AlanBell> [Progress report] popey to provide sample awesome reapproval page

popey to provide sample awesome reapproval page

• <AlanBell> well some folk attended the last LoCo council meeting

  <AlanBell> there are some awesome reapproval pages, I think it is going to be a tough process, but more on that later

  <MichealH> Im here :P

  <MichealH> I forgot that the meeting was at 8 :P

  <MooDoo> is popey recording this weeks podcast?

  <AlanBell> no matter MichealH

  <brunogirin> AlanBell: do you have examples of some pages that you think are really good?

  <AlanBell> popey is indeed off podcasting

  <MooDoo> !

  <MichealH> AlanBell: Sorry for arroving late, But I would have remembered If I was thinking today :P

  <MooDoo> brobostigon, have a look at this page! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda

  <MooDoo> venuzuela for example

  <brobostigon> MooDoo: onemoment,

  <MooDoo> sorry

  <brobostigon> ok, i have it,

  <MooDoo> apologies for butting in

  <AlanBell> the other action was for me to arrange a workshop, which I kind of did for today, and did a little on it but not very collaboratively

  <AlanBell> ok, so before we go back to reapprovals . . .

  <AlanBell> [TOPIC] AlanBell - CD Distribution

AlanBell - CD Distribution

• <brobostigon> MooDoo: sorry, i was distscted aswell, mymum is asking me question.s

  <AlanBell> so I have a lot of CDs

  <AlanBell> lots and lots

  <AlanBell> I want them distributed to useful places

  <brobostigon> yes, definatly.

  <AlanBell> trade shows are not what they used to be, there are not linux shows out there

  <MooDoo> !

  <MooDoo> we have a lot of hackerspaces in nottingham, i'd like some for there

  <AlanBell> really, cool

  <AlanBell> I tried contacting a bunch of university computing societies, but they either don't exist or don't reply

  <brobostigon>

  <AlanBell> I am totally out of the loop in terms of universities in this country

  <brobostigon> i dont know anything either.

  <AlanBell> if people want CDs I am more than happy to arrange to meet in London and hand over a big box, or try and figure out some other distribution method

  <AlanBell> MooDoo: how can I get them to you?

  <MooDoo> AlanBell, if you have paypal i could make payment to get some shipped up here to notts

  <AlanBell> yup, can do

  <brobostigon> AlanBell: maybe something better planned, so we cansee, where cd's are being used directly.

  <MooDoo> ie pay you for the postage

  <MooDoo> brobostigon, perhaps a page that shows where they go

  <AlanBell> brobostigon: I did encourage people to put events and CD requirements on http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/2011plan

  <brobostigon> MooDoo: yes, something like that.

  <brobostigon> AlanBell: ok, let melook, good idea.

  <AlanBell> I wonder if there is a london hackerspace

  <AlanBell> or a linux user group that wants them

  <barrydrake> My IRC client just froze. Had to re-boot

  <AlanBell> I will give a bunch to paula at Fossbox, Alan Cox wants some in Bracknel, Bea wants some for a course up north somewhere

  <AlanBell> museum of computing at Swindon is a possibility for some, that is Diana

  <brunogirin> AlanBell: this ones the first one that comes up on Google, in Shoreditch: http://london.hackspace.org.uk/

  <MooDoo> we have this - http://www.antenna.uk.com/

  <brobostigon> i am not familier any around here, near me.

  <AlanBell> nice

  <MooDoo> and lacemarket house - http://www.nostringsattached.biz/index.php

  <AlanBell> ok, well I want them gone, the Irish Loco got rid of theirs before ours even arrived!

  <MooDoo> lots of office sharing and hacker space

  <MooDoo> i'm trying to plan a few ubuntu hours, i should be able to get rid of them there

  <AlanBell> I will take a box to London tomorrow and see if I can find that hackerspace

  <AlanBell> I would love to do installfests in Universities

  <AlanBell> get students in a room and actually get things done and installed

  <AlanBell> however I have no idea how to make that happen

  <brobostigon> interesting idea.

  <MooDoo> big stick and beer....

  <brobostigon> lol

  <brobostigon>

  <MooDoo> every machine you convert to ubuntu take a drink

  <MooDoo> everyone that works take 2

  <barrydrake> Ont the list earlier, someone was suggesting that Canonical might be the ones to make 'first contact' Hows about?

  <daubers> Fix a bug, take 3

  <MooDoo> barrydrake, wouldn't it be better for someone in the specific area to contact first?

  <MooDoo> then if we need the big guns speak to canonical?

  <MooDoo> thoughts?

  <barrydrake> No. If they don't know you, they don't want to know. Alumni might get a look in?

  <AlanBell> Canonical can sell stuff to university chancellors if they want, I don't care about that

  <barrydrake> I'm talking introductions to the IT bod

  <AlanBell> getting a bunch of students enthused about ubuntu isn't a commercial proposition

  <brobostigon> AlanBell: only intellectual.

  <MooDoo> Beer and 'buntu sounds good to me

  <barrydrake> Getting Ubuntu out there is - in the long term

  <brobostigon> MooDoo:

  <barrydrake> AlanBell - Canonical do 'pro-bono' - look at the support they gave to PC mag

  <AlanBell> no, they do rescuing a PR disaster

  <MooDoo> surely that was nothing but PR?

  <AlanBell> they sent jpds out for a morning to fix stuff

  <barrydrake> AlanBell - you're a cynic!

  <AlanBell> and right

• MooDoo is too i think

  <AlanBell> the community needs to do different stuff, sometimes in collaboration with Canonical

  <AlanBell> like we did for the ubuntu in business event

• brobostigon likes the beer idea, and dissappears for a moment,

  <AlanBell> anyhow we should probably move on from CD distribution to the reapproval

  <brobostigon> yes, what needs to happen, there alan.?

  <AlanBell> [TOPIC] AlanBell - Reapproval Application

AlanBell - Reapproval Application

• <AlanBell> I need to find the tab with the agenda, thats what!

  <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011

  <AlanBell> and the application

  <AlanBell> so we have to make that awesome

  <AlanBell> really awesome

• brobostigon reads.

  <AlanBell> we need to include all the stuff we have done for the last few years

  <AlanBell> we need links to articles in the press and blogosphere about what we have been up to

  <MooDoo> are we going to just add everything we find to the pad and then write it up properly later?

  <brobostigon> ok, let me seewhat i can drag up, i star everything in google reader.

  <BigRedS> can we take the credit for canonical's release dos?

  <AlanBell> MooDoo: yes

  <brunogirin> do we have an etherpad for this?

  <AlanBell> BigRedS: not much of it

  <brobostigon> ok, i will lookthrough my rss,

  <AlanBell> BigRedS: that is a really interesting point you raise, and it has been raised before

  <BigRedS> surely they're all members of u-uk?

  <MooDoo> BigRedS, it wouldn't surprise me if lots of them have never heard of us

  <AlanBell> well yeah, loads of LoCo team members from the community and Canonical go to them

  <AlanBell> for the last 4 or so I have been coordinating with Canonical about them (to varying degrees of success)

  <AlanBell> in terms of selecting a venue, attempting to do a press launch

  <brunogirin> then at least the things about the press launch and stuff should be included

  <BigRedS> ah yeah, there was plans for a business-friendly one this year

  <AlanBell> and loads of canonical folk do contribute to the LoCo

  <AlanBell> it seems odd to discount their contributions on the basis that they work for Canonical vs any other company

• brobostigon doesnt know,how he can be of use, inall this.

  <brunogirin> the podcast doesn't have a link, maybe it should?

  <AlanBell> it should, we need lots of links and especially pictures

  <MooDoo> brobostigon, trawling through mails, planets, blog posts looking for ubuntu -uk events and things we've done over the years.

  <brunogirin> some of us have participated in canonical surveys, does it count?

  <AlanBell> not sure about that

  <brunogirin> we manned the stand at the cloudexpo in Barbican

  <MooDoo> that's one for the list then

  <brobostigon> MooDoo: thats one thing i am good at, keeping record of those kinds of things, somehow.

  <MooDoo> brobostigon, there you go when the pad us up, add away

  <brobostigon> MooDoo: ok,

  <MooDoo> i'm not sure if there is a generic application template though

  <AlanBell> brunogirin: yeah, that is on the list for sure

• <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/reapproval

  <brunogirin> a quick way to add stuff would be to go through all monthly pages and select the interesting stuff

  <AlanBell> yes, the team reports have useful information on them

  <MooDoo> perhaps i could point people to this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines

  <barrydrake> I'm not volunteering - but someone could trawl through the list archive

  <AlanBell> you could indeed

  <AlanBell> there is the en_GB translation activity

  <AlanBell> and the welsh team

  <MooDoo> let's steal all the ideas from laura's ubuntu ie applcation page, she won' mind

  <brobostigon> AlanBell: i would get hold of chris, abour welshteam, i havent been keeping up, recently.

  <MooDoo> perhaps we could just set a date of reviewing the pad page to see what we've got and what we need?

  <MooDoo> month from today maybe?

  <brobostigon> is there a due date, it all needs tobe done by ?

  <AlanBell> next LoCo council meeting is 19th July which is our first opportunity to go for it

  <AlanBell> has to be done this cycle

  <brobostigon> ok,

  <brobostigon> not too long then.

  <MooDoo> wow that's like 21 ish days.....

  <AlanBell> yeah

  <MooDoo> best get cracking..

  <MooDoo> i was in the last approval meeting and really felt for the team that was declined renewal

  <MooDoo> so don't want that to happen

  <brobostigon> ok, let me see, i have bookmarked the pad.

  <AlanBell> MooDoo: yeah, it is a distinct possibility

  <AlanBell> czajkowski won't vote for us, don't know if popey will

  <AlanBell> so even getting quorum for us is going to be a challenge, much less approval!

  <MooDoo> AlanBell, i would of thought laura would as she's more known for ubuntu ie

  <AlanBell> no

  <MooDoo> popey is a bit bias so he'd have to abstain

  <MooDoo> no?

  <AlanBell> dunno, haven't asked him, but anyhow, we don't need to analyse the voting intentions of the panel, we need to do an awesome application

  <brobostigon> yes.

  <barrydrake> I hate politics

  <AlanBell> quorum was my point

  <brunogirin> indeed so everybody needs to find something to add to the pad

  <AlanBell> if they can't get enough voters in the meeting it might end up being voted on using the mailing list

  <barrydrake> Who represents us at the meeting?

  <AlanBell> me and everyone

  <AlanBell> I am the point of contact so I have to be there

  <AlanBell> but everyone else can come and support

  <barrydrake> I'm in Ireland and connection is via phone dongle and very dodgy. Will come if able.

  <AlanBell> I am also going to do a bunch of stats on the ubuntu-uk launchpad team

  <AlanBell> it is one of the biggest teams in the world

  <brobostigon> nice,

  <MooDoo>

  <AlanBell> irc and mailing list stats too

  <brobostigon> both, get alot of activity.

  <BigRedS> we're pretty big on freenode aren't we?

  <AlanBell> we tend not to use the ubuntu forums specifically to the -uk, but I guess a lot of forums users are from the UK

  <AlanBell> fairly big, yeah

  <brobostigon> i dont know, the forums, always seemed alttle weird,

  <AlanBell> we have 3 users more than #london-hack-space so not vast

  <AlanBell> there is a UK LoCo forum, but it doesn't really get used

  <AlanBell> some other teams are all about the forum, especially where they have a language to identify with

  <AlanBell> we get lost in the Americans

  <brunogirin> and the ozzies and kiwis, etc

  <AlanBell> yeah, I just know -nl and -fr use the forums a lot

  <AlanBell> ok, lets carry on with the reapproval discussion later and in the #ubuntu-uk channel

  <AlanBell> [topic] books and butties

books and butties

• <brobostigon> ok, i havent been keeping on the ml thread about this,what it it about ?

  <MooDoo> meetup at the library for a trip and have a geeknic after i think

  <barrydrake> Sorry guys. Gotta go. Probably not able to connect next meeting. Will try to be there the one after.

  <MooDoo> o/ barrydrake

• <AlanBell> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=156528094418552

  <AlanBell> for the facebook folk it would be great if you could attend that and share it

• <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/ is the event on the LoCo directory thing

  <AlanBell> feel free to share the facebook thing even if not going

  <AlanBell> I am sure facebook would be useful if I knew what I was doing with it

  <brobostigon> there maybe cake,

  <AlanBell> there are groups and pages and I don't really understand the difference or whether we should have one

  <AlanBell> there is an Ubuntu group with 200 members

  <brobostigon> no idea,either.

  <MooDoo> i think it's a good idea, just for the amount of people that use facebook

  <MooDoo> more exposure

  <AlanBell> there is an Ubuntu page with 400,000 fans

  <daubers> There will be cake

  <AlanBell> every time I did something with facebook before it wanted me to buy adverts to promote stuff

  <MooDoo> you don't need to do tht to create a page.....but you need 25 likes before you get a vanity url

  <AlanBell> should we do a page then?

  <MooDoo> +1 from me, it's not going to hurt and can be removed at a later date if not working.

  <AlanBell> I only know a few people on facebook

  <MooDoo> the problem is people need to remember to update it

  <popey> yet another thing to update

  <popey> but its a good way to get events out there

  <MooDoo> oh hi popey

  <popey> uupc has a page

  <popey> we just feed it the rss feed from the show

• AlanBell didn't know that

• <popey> http://www.facebook.com/UbuntuUKPodcast

  <MooDoo> rats beat me to it

  <popey> it doesnt update very regularly

  <popey> i guess it might if we put shows out more regularly

  <popey> we have 600 people who 'like' that page

  <brobostigon>

  <AlanBell> can't see a like button, maybe I already like it

  <brunogirin> nor can I...

  <popey> is there an "unlike" link

  <popey> on the left

  <popey> i am an admin so see different stuff

  <AlanBell> found it

  <AlanBell> yes, there is

  <popey> so you already like it

  <AlanBell> yes

  <AlanBell> don't like facebook though

  <MooDoo> so are we having one? lol

  <AlanBell> so how should I have seen all the stuff on that page?

  <AlanBell> something got posted 2 hours ago

  <AlanBell> how do you see that without going and checking the page?

  <BigRedS> it should appear on your facebook feed thing

  <BigRedS> what you see when you're just at facebook.com

  <AlanBell> this is going a bit off topic granted

  <BigRedS> ah yeah. what is on-topic currently?

  <BigRedS> the prospect of a ubuntu-uk facebook page?

  <MooDoo> yes

  <MooDoo>

  <AlanBell> the british library event and promoting it and other stuff like it on Facebook

  <BigRedS> aha! It should also go on the webpage

  <AlanBell> ah, there is a link at the top for recent news, which is different to top news

  <BigRedS> I've heard that facebook pages can be updated by rss

  <BigRedS> only by being asked how to do it, though, so it might not be possible...

  <AlanBell> yes21:07 < popey> uupc has a page

  <AlanBell> 21:07 < popey> we just feed it the rss feed from the show

  <popey> can also post other stuff

  <popey> and discuss

  <AlanBell> so yes, I think it is probably worth setting up such a page and feeding it the rss from the website, and updating the website

  <popey> and add events

  <popey> you can have multiple admins too

  <AlanBell> and it will be there for people who notice stuff on facebook that isn't top news

  <BigRedS> ah yeah

  <MooDoo> and a single point to refer back to when we have to do next time next times re-approval

  <popey> it will become top news if people click like

  <popey> uh no MooDoo

  <MooDoo> lol

  <popey> the loco council doesnt look at facebook stuff

  <popey> we want single point to be the wiki please

  <brunogirin> and the other advantage is that those who notice can then send stuff to friends and promote the group further

  <MooDoo> i was more thinking about it being reference

  <AlanBell> [action] AlanBell to set up a facebook page

• <brunogirin> and link it to the web site's RSS

  <AlanBell> yeah that too

  <MooDoo> https://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php

  <AlanBell> ok, any other stuff to discuss?

• MooDoo shakes head

• brobostigon shakes head, with a maybe.

  <brunogirin> yes: I may go to the desktop summit in Berlin in August: is anybody going?

  <MooDoo> apologies all i have to leave, pregnant wife is a callin......i'll catch up with the logs

  <brobostigon> bye MooDoo o/

  <BigRedS> I think we're mostly at the end anyway

  <MooDoo> ok

  <brobostigon> MooDoo: give her our greetings.

  <MooDoo> will do brobostigon

  <brobostigon>

  <AlanBell> brunogirin: cool, what is that?

  <AlanBell> I am off to berlin in a week or two I think for an ODF plugfest

  <brunogirin> that's the combined GUADEC + KDE meeting: http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/3203

  <AlanBell> nice

  <AlanBell> ok, next meeting

  <AlanBell> lets do one a bit sooner and focus on the reapproval stuff

  <brunogirin> sorry, wrong URL: https://desktopsummit.org/

  <brobostigon> we should move fairlyquicker, concerning reapproval.

  <BigRedS> brunogirin: I was beginning to wonder

  <brunogirin> BigRedS: copy/paste error

  <AlanBell> 6th July?

  <AlanBell> wednesday

  <brobostigon> looks fine here.

  <BigRedS> sounds good

  <BigRedS> I'll have no real idea until the day itself, though

  <AlanBell> 8PM?

  <AlanBell> later?

  <AlanBell> earlier?

  <brobostigon> same, is ok, here.

  <AlanBell> ok 8 it is then

  <BigRedS> either works for me. I was surprised by this one being not at 9, though

  <AlanBell> yeah, we thought we would try it earlier as some people found 9 rather late

  <BigRedS> yeah, I sort-of remembered that after seeing it was going on at 8

  <AlanBell> ok, we can pick a chair on the night, might be me as it is rather focussed on reapproval

  <AlanBell> #endmeeting

Meeting closed at 20:37

People Present

• brobostigon

• AlanBell

• StevenR
• brunogirin

• MooDoo

• MichealH
• barrydrake
• daubers
• BigRedS
• popey

Actions Recorded

• AlanBell to set up a facebook page