Ubuntu Forums

There is a major dispute going on between various participants of the Forums...

• There is still a dispute between a few members of the Ubuntu community about the Automatix project and a derivative of it. The following links are references to parts of the discussion.
  • Note: "Forum Staff" on the forums are not admins, even though the title suggests it.
  • The forum admins say project subforums are run by the leader of the project. I guess this means if they request something be done within their sub-forum they get it, no matter what.

  • Post deletions example: http://apqi.com/ubuntu/Automatix%20(Automated%20GUI%20installation%20script)%20-%20Page%2024%20-%20Ubuntu%20Forums.htm (thread with some non-deleted posts)

  • http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563&page=24 (same thread with deleted posts)

  • http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98599

  • http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94310 (thread moved to internal forums)[http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:xSdeR_3S9QwJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D94310+&hl=en Google Cache]

  • and http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/12/05/78-automatix-viole-la-gpl (french)

  • Summary of censorship: http://robotgeek.org/cc.html

  • Very pertinent thread. It is locked.: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99553 (azz)

  • Reaction of forum staff to proper application of GPL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99866 (seth_k)

  • I was told by Ubuntu Geek that he will ban me from the forums if I continue to discuss the topics ongoing in the Site Discussion Forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100069 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100433 http://apqi.com/ubuntu/Ubuntu%20Forums%20-%20Re%20please%20read-1.htm and http://apqi.com/ubuntu/Ubuntu%20Forums%20-%20Re%20please%20read.htm (Personal Messages - AndrewZajac (azz))

  • Minutes later - and without posting on the forum again, I have been banned from the forums. (azz)
  • IRC Channel:
    • Additionally members who side with Amaranth, robotgeek, and the GPL are now being banned (I've been banned [Seth])
    • Kyral has been banned from #ubuntuforums for the same reason

    • Before banning Kyral, the forum staff member [http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=26 FLeiXiuS] said: [17:45] <FLeiXiuS> Were not under the CoC, nor do we give a shit about the CC in here..

  • The user agger had a good suggestion: all forum moderators should be Ubunteros (have signed the Code of Conduct). Perhaps in addition, all administrators should be full Ubuntu Members?
• With regards to the hosting of the forums, there are certainly a lot of ads when you navigate it as a non-registered user. I was shown a Xandros ad while visiting the official Ubuntu forums. Are there guidelines regarding the type of adds on the official forums?
  • If the forums are sustainable this way, that's great. It is a fine example of making money from the FLOSS ecosystem. However, does this affect the forum policies and has this been the reason for censorship and harsh reactions to controversial topics?
  • Is the forum profitable? Is that any of my/our/your business?

  • I was told not to bring up the topic of the hosting bill before being banned. (AndrewZajac)

• The future of the Ubuntu Forums, the increasing misunderstandings between the CC and the forum staff should be resolved.

  • Certain forum staff members seem to have differing opinions about what the spirit of Ubuntu is: (please see [http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/ubuntuforums.txt these log excerpts]) *Bit removed for hindsight of causing more inflammatory comment than nessecary*