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#ubuntu-gnome: [UU-Cycle] Ubuntu GNOME Weekly Meeting #2, 29 Jun at 21:16 — 23:05 UTC
Full logs at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-gnome/2014/ubuntu-gnome.2014-06-29-21.16.log.html
Meeting summary
1. Discuss and decide who will be Acting TL
The discussion about "1. Discuss and decide who will be Acting TL" started at 21:17.
LINK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader
ACTION: satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
ACTION: Ivan and James are both nominated for Acting TL for UG Wiki and Doc Team and amjjawad needs to talk with them about that
ACTION: Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not
ACTION: ahoneybun will work with amjjawad on the release notes for UG milestones and will handle that in case amjjawad will be away or busy
ACTION: amjjawad to discuss the activities of UG QA + UG Marketing + UG Brainstorming at next week meeting.
ACTION: satya164 will handle the NEWS Section of UG Artwork ONLY - he will share reports and news from UG Artwork and these to be published on our channels
HR Sub-Team
The discussion about "HR Sub-Team" started at 22:07.
ACTION: UG Leaders Board lead UG HR Sub-Team
Website Talk
The discussion about "Website Talk" started at 22:11.
ACTION: amjjawad to review the current website - http://ubuntugnome.org/ - and check the needed tabs for the new design
ACTION: amjjawad to review the FAQ and Wiki tabs and discuss with UG Wiki Team
ACTION: Artwork Team to add 'Feature Tour' as a button on the Home Page of UG new website design
ACTION: check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
Packaging/Dev News
The discussion about "Packaging/Dev News" started at 22:38.
ACTION: UG Team needs someone who has a bit of Dev Skills + Doc/Writing Skills to communicate to the outside world about what is going on with UG when it comes to codes and dev work. This should attract more people to join us, specially devs
other talk
The discussion about "other talk" started at 22:48.
ACTION: amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
ACTION: aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle
Vote results
Action items, by person
- ahoneybun
- ahoneybun will work with amjjawad on the release notes for UG milestones and will handle that in case amjjawad will be away or busy
- aldomann
satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
- check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
- amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
- aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle
- amjjawad
satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
- Ivan and James are both nominated for Acting TL for UG Wiki and Doc Team and amjjawad needs to talk with them about that
- Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not
- ahoneybun will work with amjjawad on the release notes for UG milestones and will handle that in case amjjawad will be away or busy
- amjjawad to discuss the activities of UG QA + UG Marketing + UG Brainstorming at next week meeting.
amjjawad to review the current website - http://ubuntugnome.org/ - and check the needed tabs for the new design
- amjjawad to review the FAQ and Wiki tabs and discuss with UG Wiki Team
- check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
- amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
- darkxst
- Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not
- Noskcaj
- Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not
- satya
satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
- satya164 will handle the NEWS Section of UG Artwork ONLY - he will share reports and news from UG Artwork and these to be published on our channels
- check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
- amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
- aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle
- satya164
satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
- satya164 will handle the NEWS Section of UG Artwork ONLY - he will share reports and news from UG Artwork and these to be published on our channels
- check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
- amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
- aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle
- **UNASSIGNED**
- UG Leaders Board lead UG HR Sub-Team
- Artwork Team to add 'Feature Tour' as a button on the Home Page of UG new website design
- UG Team needs someone who has a bit of Dev Skills + Doc/Writing Skills to communicate to the outside world about what is going on with UG when it comes to codes and dev work. This should attract more people to join us, specially devs
Done items
- (none)
People present (lines said)
- amjjawad (262)
- satya164 (98)
- aldomann (83)
- ahoneybun (22)
- darkxst (18)
- meetingology (17)
- Noskcaj (9)
- satya (4)
Full Log
21:16 <amjjawad> #startmeeting [UU-Cycle] Ubuntu GNOME Weekly Meeting #2
21:16 <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Jun 29 21:16:58 2014 UTC. The chair is amjjawad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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21:17 <amjjawad> #topic 1. Discuss and decide who will be Acting TL
21:17 <amjjawad> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader
21:18 <aldomann> hey, satyajit
21:18 <amjjawad> Hello satya164
21:18 <satya164> hello
21:18 <amjjawad> It is just the 3 of us and the meeting has just started
21:19 <amjjawad> did you guys read about the link I just posted? the Acting TL blueprint? we discussed about that on last week meeting
21:19 <satya164> good
21:19 <satya164> yeah, I had a look
21:20 <aldomann> yep
21:20 <amjjawad> okay, since UG Artwork people are here
have you decided who is going to be Mr. Acting? :P 21:20 <aldomann> satya164 of course
21:21 <satya164> nope :p
21:21 <amjjawad> hahah why I'm not surprised :P
21:21 <amjjawad> Okay, kidding a side, are you okay with that, satya164 ?
21:22 <satya164> yeah, but I need to know my responsibilities first
21:22 <amjjawad> satya164, sigh
I thought you had a look at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader 21:23 <amjjawad> you just need to have a quick look + being an Acting will qualify you to be part of UG Shinobi Team
21:23 <amjjawad> which is the UG Leaders Board
21:24 <satya164> had a look, but I forget a lot, and sleepy
21:24 <amjjawad> http://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-leaders-board/
21:24 <amjjawad> Okay, satya164 please check it out when you're not sleepy and let me know
21:24 <amjjawad> or just communicate with aldomann and you guys let me know so we do the needful
21:25 <amjjawad> for me, I already know who is going to be for UG Wiki and Doc Team
21:25 <amjjawad> Ivan and James = both are amazing and great
21:25 <satya164> yeah. I'll. right now I cannot and my internet kinda sucks
21:25 <aldomann> my guess, those guys are amazing
21:25 <amjjawad> Sadly, I don't have any other names for the rest of the sub-teams that I lead
21:26 <amjjawad> aldomann, indeed they are
21:26 <amjjawad> satya164, no worries
21:26 <amjjawad> I feel really sad that other sub-teams are not working the way they should
21:26 <aldomann> the Acting TL should have admin powers in the launchpad teams, right?
21:26 <amjjawad> from a previous experience with other project, it is really BAD if you're part of a team and you don't talk ...
21:27 <amjjawad> team = team work = people talk to each other
21:27 <amjjawad> aldomann, more or less yes but it is not a must but a plus
21:27 <amjjawad> I mean it is recommended but not really a must
21:27 <aldomann> yes, exactly, I also had (and still have) with elementary localisation teams
21:27 <satya164> I wish every one of us could have lots of time
21:27 <amjjawad> James and Ivan have that for Wiki Team
21:28 <aldomann> it really doesn't work if everyone is doing stuff without consulting eachother
21:28 <satya164> yeah. true.
21:28 <amjjawad> satya164, tell me about it but look at me? I have tons of stuff but yet, I do attend this meeting and push so hard on myself to do many things at once
21:28 <amjjawad> it is all about commitment ...
21:28 <satya164> yeah. that's true.
21:28 <aldomann> yes, that's why we are a community
21:28 <amjjawad> AMEN to that. I totally agree
21:28 <satya164> I always wonder, how do you manage
21:29 <aldomann> he has clones :p
21:29 <amjjawad> That is why, for this cycle, I won't focus on the system side ... I will focus on the community side
21:29 <satya164> I'm mostly tired after the day long work
21:29 <satya164> lol
21:29 <darkxst> morning
21:29 <amjjawad> I put so much effort myself on the system side the last cycle even though I'm not a developer but myself and Tim were doing our best for the LTS and we all got it
21:30 <amjjawad> oh, speaking of the Boss, he just came
hehe 21:30 <amjjawad> how are you, darkxst
21:30 <amjjawad> why you appear offline?!
21:30 <aldomann> morning darkxst
21:30 <satya164> morning darkxst
21:31 <amjjawad> so, satya164 should I confirm now about you being ATL for Artwork? or not yet?!
21:32 <darkxst> amjjawad, I'm good
21:32 <satya164> yeah. I'm fine with it. just need to have a thorough look at the page
21:32 <amjjawad> darkxst, good to know that
21:32 <amjjawad> satya164, okay then
21:33 <amjjawad> anyone have anything against satya164 being ATL for Artwork?
21:33 <aldomann> nop
21:34 <amjjawad> +1 here I don't mind
21:34 <amjjawad> darkxst, ?
21:35 <darkxst> +1
21:35 <amjjawad> good
21:35 <amjjawad> #action satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
21:35 * meetingology satya164 will check https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader and confirm back to aldomann and amjjawad whether he is okay to be Acting TL for UG Artwork or not
21:36 <amjjawad> #agreed UG Leaders board agreed that satya164 is nominated for Acting TL for Artwrok
21:36 <amjjawad> okay, about UG Wiki ... anyone have anything against Ivan and James being Acting TL for Wiki? though they're not here and I need to speak with them about it
21:36 <satya164> nope
21:37 <aldomann> I'm cool with them being ATL
21:37 <amjjawad> same here, I don't mind
21:38 <darkxst> ok
21:38 <amjjawad> #action Ivan and James are both nominated for Acting TL for UG Wiki and Doc Team and amjjawad needs to talk with them about that 21:38 * meetingology Ivan and James are both nominated for Acting TL for UG Wiki and Doc Team and amjjawad needs to talk with them about that
21:38 <amjjawad> #agreed UG Leaders Board agreed that both Ivan and James are good to go for Acting TL for UG Wiki and Doc Team
21:39 <amjjawad> darkxst, any one you have in mind for the packaging team?
21:39 <amjjawad> I'd assume Steve?
21:39 <amjjawad> aldomann, how many people are you at Artwork now?!
21:39 <darkxst> Steve hasnt been around much lately
21:39 <darkxst> maybe Noskcaj
21:39 <amjjawad> darkxst, oh
21:40 <Noskcaj> o/
21:40 <amjjawad> hahah you're here? why are you silent? Noskcaj
21:40 <Noskcaj> amjjawad, Because i'm watching dota and working on xfce4-power-manager too
21:40 <ahoneybun> o/
21:40 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, are you following with what we are talking about?!
21:40 <amjjawad> hello ahoneybun
21:41 <Noskcaj> amjjawad, Just that i got a ping about the packaging team
21:41 <ahoneybun> hey amjjawad 21:41 * ahoneybun is trying to get alpha 1 on a usb to install
21:41 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, okay, whenever you're free, please read: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/acting-team-leader
21:42 <amjjawad> #action Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not 21:42 * meetingology Noskcaj will read the Acting TL blueprint and get back to amjjawad and darkxst whether he is okay with being Acting for the Packaging Team or not
21:42 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, I put it as an action point so none of us will forget that
21:42 <Noskcaj> ty
21:43 <amjjawad> and, since we're here, anyone has anything against Noskcaj being ATL?
21:43 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, you welcome
21:44 <satya164> nope
21:44 <amjjawad> I don't mind too
21:44 <amjjawad> I know him even before I join UG Team
21:44 <Noskcaj> I'm ok with being the ATL
21:44 <amjjawad> hahah did you read it? :P
21:44 <Noskcaj> I should probably use gnome some time though
21:45 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, shhh, don't tell that on a public area :P
21:45 <Noskcaj>
21:45 <Noskcaj> i'll make a VM today
21:45 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, good
21:45 <aldomann> hehehe
21:45 <amjjawad> so darkxst and aldomann ?
21:45 <amjjawad> are you both okay with Noskcaj being ATL?
21:46 <darkxst> yes
21:46 <aldomann> yes 21:46 * ahoneybun is cheating as well
21:47 <amjjawad> Noskcaj, a side from the blueprint, which should have all what you need to know, not sure if I have put that over there or not ... but if you be an ATL, you also be part of UG shinobi board
21:47 <amjjawad> which means, you can vote
21:47 <amjjawad> so, just another task
21:47 <Noskcaj>
21:47 <amjjawad> #agreed UG Leaders Board agreed Noskcaj be ATL for UG Packaging Team
21:48 <amjjawad> since ahoneybun is here, do you have any skills when it comes to other Sub-Teams a side from the Wiki?
21:48 <amjjawad> like Social Media maybe?
21:48 <amjjawad> or any other area?!
21:49 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, I have helped darkxst with packaging but tbh he pretty much held my hand though it
21:49 <amjjawad> as for me, I have serious problem when it comes to UG QA, Brainstorming and Marketing
21:50 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, I'm not going to assign anything extra for you now because (ask me about it) if you burnout, you will never be helpful to yourself and so to anyone else
21:50 <amjjawad> that said, I won't add anything over your shoulder yet
21:50 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, relating to brainstorming I always loved the start screen they have in Linux Mint
21:51 <amjjawad> but maybe with the next cycle if you stick around, you might get some tasks
21:51 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, tbh I feel like there is more I could do, or should do
21:51 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, the brainstorming area is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams#Brainstorming
21:52 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, we need active people
21:52 <amjjawad> leave the leading part to us
and you guys could handle the rest 21:52 <amjjawad> we really need active people more than we do need leaders
21:52 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, not really leading type
21:52 <amjjawad> no problem
21:52 <ahoneybun> darkxst, would I install the alpha 1 to package with?
21:53 <amjjawad> before we go to the next topic, I want you all to tell me what should I do for the other Sub-Team?
21:53 <amjjawad> a re-stricture?
21:53 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, let's talk about that Q after the meeting, please
21:53 <darkxst> ahoneybun, yes
21:53 <ahoneybun> ok sorry
21:53 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, no problem
21:54 <amjjawad> so, any idea guys?!
21:54 <ahoneybun> what teams are left amjjawad ?
21:54 <amjjawad> UG Brainstorming = 100% idle
21:54 <amjjawad> UG Marketing = 98% idle
21:54 <satya> How many active members are in those teams?
21:54 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, tbh I forum is always good for Brainstorming
21:55 <amjjawad> UG QA = 50% and they just don't communicate
21:55 <amjjawad> Brain and Marketing = me
21:55 <satya> ;(
21:55 <amjjawad> and there is 1-2 people helping every now and then with social media stuff but not really what I need
21:56 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, I could help with SM
21:56 <satya> I could help with sm
21:56 <ahoneybun> *SM
21:56 <amjjawad> Brainstorming could be of a great help but looking at the current status of our community, I'd say it is helpless for this cycle but could be helpful the next one
21:57 <amjjawad> as for QA and Marketing, we DO NEED these to be super active
21:57 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, and satya what you guys could really do is ... writing news of what our team is doing
21:58 <amjjawad> for the social media, I'm 90% fine to handle that alone
21:58 <amjjawad> but when it comes to writing news of what we're doing, I'm very very very short in time and efforts
21:58 <satya> Good. I can do that too.
21:58 <ahoneybun> amjjawad, so reports of meetings and so on
21:58 <aldomann> Nice
21:59 <amjjawad> okay, so to make life easier for both of us ... satya can write about news from Artwork team ONLY for now
21:59 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, no, not reports of the meeting, this is what I usually take care of. I do need news about our team and what we usually do and such news go to the public around the world
22:00 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, have you seen the 3 posts I have published on our website 2 days ago?
22:01 <darkxst> ahoneybun, want to take care of release notes for future milestone releases? alpha-1 went out without any!
22:01 <amjjawad> that would be super great darkxst
22:01 <ahoneybun> darkxst, sure
22:01 <amjjawad> specially when I'm not around
22:01 <amjjawad> myself and ahoneybun could work on that
22:01 <aldomann> so, you take care of the news and release notes, ahoneybun?
22:02 <amjjawad> I'd suggest to go for the release notes
22:02 <amjjawad> that would make the burden much less on me 22:02 * ahoneybun feels silly for not getting the concept of the "news"
22:02 <ahoneybun> but release notes sure
22:02 <amjjawad> ahoneybun, forget the news part
22:03 <ahoneybun> ok amjjawad
22:03 <amjjawad> so, everyone ... are you okay with this? please vote quickly
22:03 <satya164> +1
22:03 <darkxst> +1
22:03 <amjjawad> +1
22:03 <aldomann> absolutely
22:03 <amjjawad> perfect
22:04 <amjjawad> #action ahoneybun will work with amjjawad on the release notes for UG milestones and will handle that in case amjjawad will be away or busy 22:04 * meetingology ahoneybun will work with amjjawad on the release notes for UG milestones and will handle that in case amjjawad will be away or busy
22:04 <amjjawad> #agreed UG Leaders Board agreed that ahoneybun to help amjjawad and handle the Release Notes for UG milestones
22:05 <amjjawad> okay, phew
thanks! 22:05 * ahoneybun looks at ReleaseSchedule
22:05 <amjjawad> For the other team, let's worry about that later ... I guess 10 apples at one hand is just too much at the moment
22:05 <amjjawad> let's talk about that later
22:06 <satya164> So, wallpaper contest?
22:06 <amjjawad> #action amjjawad to discuss the activities of UG QA + UG Marketing + UG Brainstorming at next week meeting. 22:06 * meetingology amjjawad to discuss the activities of UG QA + UG Marketing + UG Brainstorming at next week meeting.
22:06 <amjjawad> satya164, not yet
22:06 <satya164> ;(
22:07 <amjjawad> #action satya164 will handle the NEWS Section of UG Artwork ONLY - he will share reports and news from UG Artwork and these to be published on our channels 22:07 * meetingology satya164 will handle the NEWS Section of UG Artwork ONLY - he will share reports and news from UG Artwork and these to be published on our channels
22:07 <satya164> Okay
22:07 <amjjawad> #topic HR Sub-Team
22:07 <amjjawad> this is a very quick review and nothing more is required for now
22:08 <amjjawad> just to let you know, the Wiki Page for HR Sub-Team will be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved
22:08 <amjjawad> As for who is going to lead that team, it is the UG Leaders Board for now
22:08 <amjjawad> please vote if you guys are okay with this?!
22:08 <aldomann> +1
22:08 <satya164> +1
22:08 <amjjawad> +1
22:10 <darkxst> +1
22:10 <amjjawad> #agreed UG Leaders Board agreed to lead UG HR Sub-Team
22:10 <amjjawad> #action UG Leaders Board lead UG HR Sub-Team 22:10 * meetingology UG Leaders Board lead UG HR Sub-Team
22:11 <amjjawad> this means, we are all going to help each other to manage and do the task of UG HR
22:11 <amjjawad> HR Team: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/hr-sub-team
22:11 <amjjawad> #topic Website Talk
22:11 <amjjawad> any progress in this regard?
22:11 <satya164> Yay!
22:11 <amjjawad> hahah
22:12 <aldomann> yes!
22:12 <aldomann> http://cl.ly/image/0i2u2A051m1b
22:12 <amjjawad> okay, are you guys (artwork team) working on that alone?!
22:12 <aldomann> this is a quick mockup of the getting involved tab
22:12 <aldomann> community* tab
22:13 <aldomann> we are working alone on the design, Niels should do the programming (though satya can help, I think)
22:13 <satya164> Yes. I can help with code
22:13 <amjjawad> okay, is Niels still around?!
22:13 <satya164> I've never worked with WordPress though
22:13 <amjjawad> I haven't seen anything from him lately
22:14 <satya164> But I'm a quick learner
22:14 <amjjawad> satya164, it is super easy but don't ask me about codes :P
22:14 <satya164> Cool then
22:14 <aldomann> he's waiting to the final draft so that he can start coding
22:15 <amjjawad> aldomann, I thought he will do/help with the draft?
22:15 <satya164> I was also suggesting to have a Scrollback widget in the page
22:15 <aldomann> Satyajit came with the idea of implementing a Scrollback IRC widget in the Comunity tab
22:16 <amjjawad> okay, here is two things I do need in this regard if I may to ask :P
22:16 <satya164> Yup?
22:16 <amjjawad> (1) I/We don't need a heavy website - let's have some mercy with people of slow connections
22:16 <aldomann> ammjawad, he can help once we have the "final" desgin; i.e., what we shall include in the page
22:16 <amjjawad> (2) I'd suggest to have at least 3 suggestions/designs so we could choose from
22:17 <aldomann> it can be minimized, so not big deal I suppose
22:17 <satya164> amjjawad we could make the widget load on demand. and the widget uses appcache, so will load very quick after first load
22:17 <amjjawad> and, I do have a Q .. should we ask the users for their opinions? or only us the Shinobi board? or should we simply just ask over the mailing list and whoever is active will share his/her opinion?
22:17 <aldomann> the structure and design is not a priority right now, what is important is the content: http://cl.ly/image/123o3D2D2A40
22:18 <satya164> Yeah, design will get better as we start working on it
22:18 <aldomann> in this quick overview we can see that the website in going to consist basically in the main site (the mockup we showed last week), the blog, the community and download pages and links to FAQ and Wiki
22:18 <satya164> But we first need the content to start working
22:19 <aldomann> do you agree with that? It's super simple and we can maintain that amount of work easily
22:19 <amjjawad> #action amjjawad to review the current website - http://ubuntugnome.org/ - and check the needed tabs for the new design
22:19 * meetingology amjjawad to review the current website - http://ubuntugnome.org/ - and check the needed tabs for the new design
22:20 <satya164> Also, consistency in important
22:20 <amjjawad> aldomann, I'll get back to you guys very soon about it
22:20 <satya164> is *
22:20 <amjjawad> because some tabs are missing
22:20 <amjjawad> for example: are we going to add 'Screenshots' tab?
22:20 <amjjawad> and where is the contact us tab?
22:20 <aldomann> I think we should have a few in the homepage
22:21 <darkxst> amjjawad, that would be the "feature tour"?
22:21 <aldomann> tomorrow I'll work on that
22:21 <amjjawad> Wiki and FAQ shouldn't be two tabs IMHO, I'd highly suggest merging these two
22:21 <satya164> I think instead of a screenshots tab, having the screenshots in the features section of the wiki will be better
22:21 <amjjawad> darkxst, right ... so instead of 'Screenshot' tab, we need one called 'Feature Tour'
22:21 <aldomann> darkxst, yeah, I think we can do a simple feature tour in the homepage
22:21 <satya164> Screenshots don't mean much without any description
22:22 <aldomann> ammjawad, either that or implement it in the home page
22:22 <amjjawad> wait, are we going to do the feature tour as a tab? or as a button on the home page?
22:22 <satya164> As a button will be better I guess
22:22 <aldomann> I'd prefer that to be in the home page. The first impression is very important to gain people's attention
22:23 <ahoneybun> I agree with aldomann on that
22:23 <satya164> BTW amjjawad are you sure you want to merge wiki and FAQ links? Coz looking for FAQ will be difficult then
22:24 <satya164> Yeah. We should have few screenshots on the home page
22:24 <aldomann> satya164 it wouln't hurt to have both as links in the navigation header
22:25 <amjjawad> satya164, that would be called Documentation
22:25 <amjjawad> FAQ is part of the Doc
22:25 <amjjawad> same goes for Wiki
22:25 <amjjawad> so the general name is Doc
22:25 <satya164> Yeah. I agree @aldoman
22:25 <amjjawad> do we all agree for that so we move forward?
22:26 <amjjawad> let's vote please - Wiki and FAQ to be under a tab called Documentation and instead that tag, we list the FAQs and Links to our Wiki
22:26 <satya164> amjjawad yeah, but for a new user, it'll be difficult to get to the FAQ if there is no direct link
22:26 <aldomann> yeah, so amjjawad please review the current website so we can plan the navigation for the new one
22:26 <aldomann> let's not forget the footer
22:27 <aldomann> we can have more specific stuff there
22:27 <amjjawad> #action amjjawad to review the FAQ and Wiki tabs and discuss with UG Wiki Team 22:27 * meetingology amjjawad to review the FAQ and Wiki tabs and discuss with UG Wiki Team
22:27 <amjjawad> okay, I added that to the actions point
22:27 <amjjawad> now, let's vote for the feature tour
22:27 <aldomann> nice
22:27 <satya164> Yes.
22:27 <amjjawad> do we all agree that it is better to add the feature tour as a button on the home page?!
22:27 <amjjawad> +1 from me
22:27 <satya164> +1
22:28 <aldomann> I vote yes. One of the fisrt things I look for in a software project website is visual stuff
22:28 <aldomann> I want to know how it looks
22:28 <darkxst> +1
22:28 <aldomann> +1
22:28 <satya164> We could have a nice video too, if someone is great at it
22:29 <amjjawad> #agreed it is better to add the feature tour as a button on the home page if UG website
22:29 <amjjawad> #action Artwork Team to add 'Feature Tour' as a button on the Home Page of UG new website design 22:29 * meetingology Artwork Team to add 'Feature Tour' as a button on the Home Page of UG new website design
22:29 <amjjawad> satya164, what kind of video?
22:30 <satya164> Showcasing cool features of GNOME
22:30 <amjjawad> so something to show-off from inside the system, right?
22:30 <satya164> Yup
22:30 <aldomann> that'd be nice if it's possible
22:31 <amjjawad> just like the reviews many guys are doing on YouTube?
22:31 <amjjawad> does it require someone to 'talk' or just the mouse moving around?
22:31 <satya164> Yup, mostly, minus that bad things
22:32 <satya164> I would prefer no talk
22:32 <aldomann> yeah, some nice music would do the work
22:33 <amjjawad> I think we need to ask on the mailing list + social media if someone could do this for us
22:33 <satya164> Yup
22:33 <amjjawad> I'd do it myself but no time
22:33 <satya164> Yeah. I'll ask Alex Diavatis
22:33 <aldomann> the guy I had in mind
22:33 <amjjawad> I have someone on G+ who is good with reviews
22:33 <satya164>
22:34 <satya164> Great
22:34 <ahoneybun> this is a nice design http://antergos.com/
22:34 <aldomann> ahoneybun, indeed
22:34 <aldomann> that footer is very nice
22:35 <amjjawad> are we talking about: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/108356762331170101188/109985938918914471787/posts
22:35 <satya164> It is
22:35 <amjjawad> Hehehe
22:35 <amjjawad> I know him, I mean we had a quick chat and he is more than happy to help us as he said
22:35 <amjjawad> I even asked him to join us
22:36 <amjjawad> he said I'll check the link of getting involved and get back to you IIRC
22:36 <aldomann> cool
22:36 <satya164> Cool
22:37 <amjjawad> #action check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164 22:37 * meetingology check with Alex Reissig if he could help us with UG Review to be added to the feature tour or UG home page for the new site - amjjawad aldomann satya164
22:37 <amjjawad> okay, anything else regarding the website?!
22:38 <aldomann> nope, I think that's it
22:38 <amjjawad> okay
22:38 <amjjawad> #topic Packaging/Dev News
22:38 <amjjawad> darkxst, can you please suggest someone who could help?
22:38 <amjjawad> I've been asking for this since last cycle but I know we got too busy to think of someone ...
22:39 <amjjawad> I/We need someone who could talk to the outside world.
22:39 <amjjawad> I'm way too far to know anything about coding and despite that, I have to deal with tons of people asking about these stuff
22:40 <darkxst> amjjawad, not too sure who could help with that
22:40 <amjjawad> If we could have someone who could tell the world what UG is doing when it comes to codes, that would be super great and might attract more people to join
22:40 <amjjawad> darkxst, I don't know either
22:40 <aldomann> I think we could ask for people for the news in Google+
22:40 <amjjawad> aldomann, how?
22:40 <satya164> Yes.
22:40 <amjjawad> I'm talking about UG Packaging and Development
22:40 <aldomann> "Do you wanna write stuff? Apply here" or something
22:41 <amjjawad> if it is not for someone who is directly involved, not even myself know what is going on
22:41 <satya164> Yeah, we can ask developers to join us
22:41 <amjjawad> aldomann, I'm talking now about news from development team only
22:41 <aldomann> maybe there's someone who hasn't got involved in packaging but might want to help just observing what the guys do and report in for the blog
22:41 <amjjawad> okay, how could we do that and we don't even know what is going on?
22:42 <satya164> From changelogs?
22:42 <amjjawad> aldomann, I had that in mind but if that someone will start asking Qs instead of just 'watch' and 'write', he/she will slow things down and add a burden on the shoulders of our devs
22:42 <amjjawad> our devs should have peace of mind to work better
22:42 <darkxst> amjjawad, if its for users, then it doesn't need to go to deep
22:43 <amjjawad> that is why we're taking care of them
treat them as kings :P 22:43 <darkxst> for example things like gnome-shell 3.12 landed
22:43 <aldomann> yeah, you are right, that might work for other subteams... but for the dev team it shall be someone from the team itself
22:43 <amjjawad> darkxst, okay, if you think anyone could do that, then it is okay but that someone has to know what is really going on
22:43 <amjjawad> aldomann, +1
22:43 <amjjawad> this is what I'm trying to say
22:44 <amjjawad> so he will write correct info
22:44 <satya164> Yeah. True.
22:44 <amjjawad> as for 3.12 is landing, I think everyone knows that
22:44 <amjjawad> we need really more details
22:44 <amjjawad> whatever else is involved
22:44 <satya164> We could get some developers join the team though
22:44 <amjjawad> what we need here is: someone with Doc + a bit of Dev Skills
22:44 <satya164> Who could both involve in the process and communicate
22:45 <amjjawad> satya164, to attract devs to join, you need to show-off your work
22:45 <amjjawad> I have no idea who could help with this
22:45 <aldomann> I hadn't thought it in that way... it's a good idea amjjawad
22:45 <amjjawad> but we really need to do that IMHO
22:45 <satya164> The never ending chicken egg cycle
22:46 <amjjawad> satya164, it is a loop indeed but I will never give up :P this is my Ninja way as Naruto says :P
22:46 <amjjawad> I hope we could find that guy
22:46 <amjjawad> I think we are all agreeing on that?
22:46 <aldomann> _!
22:46 <satya164> We will
22:46 <aldomann> +1
22:46 <amjjawad> if yes, I will add that to the action points
22:46 <satya164> +1
22:47 <amjjawad> #action UG Team needs someone who has a bit of Dev Skills + Doc/Writing Skills to communicate to the outside world about what is going on with UG when it comes to codes and dev work. This should attract more people to join us, specially devs 22:47 * meetingology UG Team needs someone who has a bit of Dev Skills + Doc/Writing Skills to communicate to the outside world about what is going on with UG when it comes to codes and dev work. This should attract more people to join us, specially devs
22:48 <amjjawad> #topic other talk
22:48 <amjjawad> anything else you guys wish to add?!
22:48 <satya164> Do we want more GTK themes in the default install?
22:49 <amjjawad> satya164, I'd really wish that
22:49 <amjjawad> I wish we focus on the look and feel for this cycle
22:49 <amjjawad> but that's me
22:49 <satya164> We could add Numix
22:49 <satya164> Since the Xubuntu guys already package it
22:49 <aldomann> and moka
22:49 <satya164> We won't have to worry about packaging
22:49 <amjjawad> the more beautiful themes, the better
22:49 <aldomann> those two projects are probably the most active and used right now
22:50 <amjjawad> not sure if we could add Box from Lubuntu?!
22:50 <amjjawad> not that Lubuntu is heading to Qt more than GTK AFAIK
22:50 <satya164> I don't like box much
22:50 <amjjawad> now*
22:50 <amjjawad> it is just another theme
22:50 <aldomann> the question, is how? do we need to package them or we could have links to their official PPAs?
22:51 <amjjawad> I'd be very interested if we could have more than one option by default
22:51 <satya164> Talking about icon themes, elementary Xfce will be a nice one
22:51 <satya164> It already had great GNOME support
22:51 <satya164> has*
22:51 <darkxst> any themes we include on the ISO must be packaged in the main archives
22:51 <aldomann> that's very important, full GNOME apps support
22:51 <darkxst> we can't include PPA's on the ISO
22:51 <amjjawad> and http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faenza?content=128143
22:52 <aldomann> Moka and Numix (and elementary Xfce) have ful support
22:52 <aldomann> faenza is dead
22:52 <satya164> Faenza is unmaintained since long
22:52 <aldomann> Mathhieu is working for offical Ubuntu stuff for Canonical
22:52 <amjjawad> oh really?
22:52 <aldomann> sadly
22:52 <amjjawad>
22:52 <satya164> You rely didn't know?
22:52 <satya164> Really *
22:53 <amjjawad> You'll laugh satya164 but I'm the type of guy who barely change this wallpaper :P
22:53 <amjjawad> I have no time to play with themes, etc
22:53 <satya164>
22:53 <amjjawad> I wish I have time
22:53 <aldomann> neither do I :p, I rarely change that stuff
22:53 <amjjawad> yeah
22:53 <aldomann> I had Faenza for a couple of years
22:53 <amjjawad> I'm old school I guess hehe
22:54 <aldomann> and now I'm sticking with Numix/Moka
22:54 <satya164> Yeah, I know a lot of who don't change anything beyond wallpapers
22:54 <amjjawad> okay, if we could add some nice stuff to the default build, that would be super great and this is what I added to the roadmap of artwork team anyway :P hehe
22:54 <satya164> And including a few by default can change that
22:55 <satya164> If we add Numix GTK, I'll talk to Xubuntu guys to split their palace
22:55 <satya164> Package*
22:55 <amjjawad> satya164, indeed
22:55 <aldomann> that's a brilliant plan, we still keep a pure GNOME feel but give the users more options
22:55 <amjjawad> I'd change my theme if I have some by default that would save my time
22:56 <amjjawad> satya164, and aldomann I actually need a brainstorming session with both of ya
22:56 <aldomann> no problem, brother
22:56 <amjjawad> I need to brainwash you first and then discuss some stuff 100% related to Artwork
22:56 <satya164>
22:56 <amjjawad> hahah
22:56 <amjjawad> so, let me know when please
22:56 <aldomann> any day this week
22:56 <amjjawad> the sooner the batter so that darkxst won't mind and we can do the packaging stuff quickly
22:57 <satya164> I'm OK with any day
22:57 <amjjawad> I'm not sure, I think we need to carry on with on the mailing list of artwork
22:57 <satya164> Will be available after 8 pm GMT + 5.30
22:57 <satya164> Mailing list might be better
22:57 <amjjawad> #action amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle 22:57 * meetingology amjjawad and satya164 and aldomann and anyone who is interested to have a brainstorming session for UG Artwork for UU Cycle
22:58 <aldomann> we can discuss that on the mailing list if you wish, amjjawad
22:58 <amjjawad> satya164, indeed
22:58 <amjjawad> aldomann, on the mailing list, we can fix the time and date for the meeting
22:58 <amjjawad> but here is faster
22:58 <satya164> So, we need to start the wallpaper contest
22:58 <amjjawad> if we couldn't do it this week, then we can do it next Sun
22:59 <amjjawad> okay, as for the wallpaper contest, do we need to find someone else who could take care of it? or you guys are fine?
22:59 <aldomann> oh about that, I'm making a looong trip next weekend
22:59 <satya164> I'm fine with it
22:59 <aldomann> so i'll be gone sat, sun and probably monday
22:59 <amjjawad> I'm asking for two reasons: you're working on the website + we might do some nice stuff for UG artwork so that will take more of your time already
23:00 <satya164> Wouldn't need much work after setting up the flickr page
23:00 <amjjawad> aldomann, no problem, thanks for telling us and that is why we have ATL now :P
23:00 <aldomann> heh
23:00 <amjjawad> satya164, okay then
23:00 <amjjawad> let's start with it then
23:00 <satya164> Some help will be nice
23:00 <amjjawad> all agree?!
23:00 <aldomann> this week we could have all prepared for the wallpaper contest
23:00 <satya164> But even if we don't get any, it's ok
23:00 <amjjawad> yep
23:01 <amjjawad> and let's learn from last cycle mistakes
23:01 <amjjawad> we accepted so many and you guys had hard time to select
23:01 <aldomann> I beleive rhoconlinux offered his help a few months ago
23:01 <satya164> So, here is the thing, only 1 wallpaper per use
23:01 <aldomann> I can ask him to join us and help us
23:01 <satya164> user*
23:01 <amjjawad> aldomann, if he is around, why not?
23:01 <amjjawad> aldomann, please do
23:01 <satya164> Nice
23:01 <amjjawad> satya164, yep 1 per user
23:02 <amjjawad> or maybe 2 per user
23:02 <aldomann> yeah, and we should simplify the rules
23:02 <amjjawad> but not 20 :P
23:02 <satya164> Yup
23:02 <satya164> Also using only flickr
23:02 <amjjawad> ok, so the last action item will be
23:02 <aldomann> make clear the licensing, sizes, amount of walls per user, etc
23:02 <aldomann> all in a very simple way
23:02 <satya164> Two different places are difficult to manage
23:02 <amjjawad> #action aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle 23:02 * meetingology aldomann and satya164 to prepare the Wallpaper Contest for UG UU Cycle
23:03 <amjjawad> anything else guys before I end the meeting? it is almost 2 hours :P
23:03 <satya164> Yeah, we could write, by submitting the wallpaper to the pool, you are releasing it under creative Commons
23:03 <satya164> Or something like that
23:04 <aldomann> hell yes, we had a hard time contacting the guys to ask their permission to release the walls
23:04 <amjjawad> okay, I guess that is all for this week meeting
23:04 <satya164> Yeah. It's already late
23:04 <amjjawad> thank you everyone
23:04 <amjjawad> was yet another nice meeting
23:04 <aldomann> all right then
23:04 <amjjawad> glad to do that weekly YAY
23:04 <amjjawad> thanks for coming
23:05 <satya164> Thanks. Bye all.
23:05 <amjjawad> #endmeeting
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