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'''NOTE''': This page is part of the Ubuntu Specification process. Please check the status and details in Launchpad before editing. If the spec is Approved then you should contact the Assignee, or another knowledgeable person, before making changes. Ubuntu Studio aims to be a multimedia editing flavor of Ubuntu for the Linux audio, video, and graphic enthusiast or professional who is already familiar with the Ubuntu-Gnome environment. Ubuntu Studio is currently in planning. This page is the starting point for these plans.
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## Register at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs
 * '''Launchpad entry''': none yet
 * '''Packages affected''':
''' The old documentation can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation '''
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== Summary == = Ultimate Goal =
To build a solid multimedia editing distro based on Ubuntu-Gnome by Feisty Fawn.
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== Rationale == = Get Involved =
 * We need you! Come talk with us on #ubuntustudio on Freenode and look at our [wiki:UbuntuStudio/ProjectGoals "Project Goals"] page to see if you can help. The IRC channel is STRICTLY for development of Ubuntu Studio. DO NOT come there to ask support questions for audio hardware/software.[[BR]]
 * Our spec page is [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudioSpec HERE] and our Launchpad page is [https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntustudio HERE].
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== Use cases == = NOTICE! =
 *Our new main URL is: http://ubuntustudio.org This will eventually become the main source for info on Ubuntu Studio
 *We need help getting a proper spec written for a Ubuntu Studio kernel. Please look [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaProductionKernel HERE] to add to the spec.
 *Please try to sign your comments. Though, with the addition of concrete info, it isnt needed.
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== Scope == = Status =
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== Design == The plan at the moment is:
 * Use only packages in official Ubuntu repositories
 * Use the best kernel Feisty Fawn provides.
 * Use Gnome
 * Build "Alt" DVD
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== Implementation == = Contributors =
UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure
= Project Goals =
UbuntuStudio/ProjectGoals is the place to go to see what we need help with.
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=== Code === = Art & Themes =
UbuntuStudio/ArtProposal - Guide and info on the "look and feel" for Ubuntu Studio.
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=== Data preservation and migration === = Ubuntu Studio Metapackages Breakdown =
UbuntuStudio/MetapackagesBreakdown - A page for the structure of the metapackages and disks.
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== Unresolved issues ==
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== BoF agenda and discussion == = Ubuntu Studio "To Package" List =
UbuntuStudio/ToPackage - A page with the apps we are trying to package for Ubuntu
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= Current Questions =
 * Just looking through the package list (which is pretty complete as it is), may be an idea to segregate the sections further (ie. the graphics section has 2D Raster/2D Vector/3D all in the same area - divide and sort the apps into their specific areas). In addition to this, also put down some extra information about the package (current dev version, current stable version, package maturity). Thoughts? - norbert_drage[[BR]]

 * With all of the apps, there is a lot of choice (wonderful stuff), but will there be default or suggested apps? (I want to be careful here, because this can get religous) Also guessing that sorting will be alphabetical? - norbert_drage[[BR]]

 * Since this is Gnome-based, does that automatically preclude such software DVD burning software as K3b? I'm having a hard time finding Gnome-based DVD burning software that is as stable and intuitive as K3b and it seems that CD and DVD burning software would be indispensible in a "studio" version of Linux. -- BrionS

= Comments =

 * It still doesn't support fakeRAID which will already be in use by many people that use windows boxes to do a/v work. When on earth is someone going to pull their finger out and get fakeRAID implemented in the ubuntu and kubuntu installers!?

  See this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/68308 - so we don't have to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto - we want out-of-the-box RAID support, just like Windows Vista, I mean, XP, no wait, 2000, omg, like Windows NT 3.51 has... - hydra[[BR]]

   This is a problem common to all Ubuntu derivitives. Complaining here is not constructive. -- AndrewHunter

 * I will put a quotation of one of my sound engineer friend : "no matter what it looks, if you can work a day on, if it is functionnal, and if it sounds great". Do you think it is possible with Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio)? - ttoine[[BR]]

 * What's the current state for the amd64 architecture? I believe there's no metapackage yet; do you plan to support this arch. ? - rdoursenaud
   * We do not support 64 bit. We hope to support it for our next release. - C.Kontros

 * Can we get some good samples with this? I'm especially interested in ''public domain'' looped or long-sampled instruments in formats like .ITI; although a new instrument format using FLAC compression would be awesome. There's some good base samples at [http://freepats.opensrc.org/samples/imis/] but they need to be split up, tuned (i.e. have their C-4 sample rate set), and arranged in an .ITI. --JohnMoser
  * Sure. If you want to get together the samples and package it. ;)
  * There's another bunch of free instrument samples, recorded in an anechoic room, at [http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html the University of Iowa]. They plan to add piano performances of all the Bach chorales. --MikeODonnell
  * I'm not sure I'd want to see raw samples as part of the distro - that tends to be very much a matter of personal preference, and what I might consider a crucial part of my kit could be viewed as a waste of space by another. However, if the instruments packaged with the distro come with sample sets contributed by the plugin devs, I'd regard that as a Good Thing. - patrick238
  * I think easy access to collections samples would be a big plus from the stand point of the audio oriented user, though I agree the don't really belong as a part of the distro itself. What if optional packages of samples were assembled according to some categorization such as instrument or music genre, similarly to the way commerical "sample packs" are currently bundled? Then users could pick which sample packages to install but still have easy access to them. - MarkRoddy
  * I don't know. I think if samples w/the audio package are restricted to ''high quality'' samples, as in professional level, then public domain samples would be appropriate to include. While there is a lot of personal preference involved with sample choices, I would imagine that most producers/beatmakers/whatevers would appreciate really good-sounding samples, of whatever stripe, and find something to do with them. A small selection could be included with the audio package, to give it an element of personality (as the best hard synths and audio software tools have). I wouldn't imagine there are that many high-quality public domain samples out there anyway. The "sample pack" idea could be implemented in parallel. -Adamc4
  * I think that including a few or a simple mechanism to get a handful of samples is important. I imagine a number of people will want to try things out without loading up libraries of clips or searching for them just so they can get an idea of the software. -SloggerKhan

 * What about the possibility of a low-latency kernel, like the one that the '''PlanetCCRMA''' guys built?

  * It is my understanding that the low-latency kernel will be installed by default only with the audio package. AndrewHunter
  * Great! One more step for us, audio students/workers, to get rid of Windoze!

 * For video/graphics at least some notes on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management colour management] are necessary, it would seem the only hardware colorimeter supported is an obsolete Xrite DP94. Modern equipment such as Pantone Huey, Eye-One Display LT/2, LaCie blue eye pro/2, would need to be run on Windows and the calibration data transfered over to Linux. As such a perfect opportunity to add into a Ubuntu Studio ["install.exe"] -- StevenMcCoy

  * Again, as above, we are packaging Ubuntu software. If the support for this hardware is available and someone packages it for Ubuntu, there is no reason not to include it. -- AndrewHunter

 * What about including links to or documentation for various multimedia tasks such as video editing, mixing audio, how analog synths work, etc. There seems to be a large amount of guides/tutorials online in various forms that possibly could be used. A lot of this software requires a fair amount of knowledge beyond what the manuals provide, and it would probably make ubuntustudio more friendly to the semipro/committed amateur user. --Adamc4
 * I`m open new group named [http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntustudio Ubuntu Studio] on Google Groups. Please visit it. --KeepYourMind

Ubuntu Studio aims to be a multimedia editing flavor of Ubuntu for the Linux audio, video, and graphic enthusiast or professional who is already familiar with the Ubuntu-Gnome environment. Ubuntu Studio is currently in planning. This page is the starting point for these plans.

The old documentation can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation

Ultimate Goal

To build a solid multimedia editing distro based on Ubuntu-Gnome by Feisty Fawn.

Get Involved

NOTICE!

  • Our new main URL is: http://ubuntustudio.org This will eventually become the main source for info on Ubuntu Studio

  • We need help getting a proper spec written for a Ubuntu Studio kernel. Please look [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaProductionKernel HERE] to add to the spec.

  • Please try to sign your comments. Though, with the addition of concrete info, it isnt needed.

Status

The plan at the moment is:

  • Use only packages in official Ubuntu repositories
  • Use the best kernel Feisty Fawn provides.
  • Use Gnome
  • Build "Alt" DVD

Contributors

UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure

Project Goals

UbuntuStudio/ProjectGoals is the place to go to see what we need help with.

Art & Themes

UbuntuStudio/ArtProposal - Guide and info on the "look and feel" for Ubuntu Studio.

Ubuntu Studio Metapackages Breakdown

UbuntuStudio/MetapackagesBreakdown - A page for the structure of the metapackages and disks.

Ubuntu Studio "To Package" List

UbuntuStudio/ToPackage - A page with the apps we are trying to package for Ubuntu

Current Questions

  • Just looking through the package list (which is pretty complete as it is), may be an idea to segregate the sections further (ie. the graphics section has 2D Raster/2D Vector/3D all in the same area - divide and sort the apps into their specific areas). In addition to this, also put down some extra information about the package (current dev version, current stable version, package maturity). Thoughts? - norbert_drageBR

  • With all of the apps, there is a lot of choice (wonderful stuff), but will there be default or suggested apps? (I want to be careful here, because this can get religous) Also guessing that sorting will be alphabetical? - norbert_drageBR

  • Since this is Gnome-based, does that automatically preclude such software DVD burning software as K3b? I'm having a hard time finding Gnome-based DVD burning software that is as stable and intuitive as K3b and it seems that CD and DVD burning software would be indispensible in a "studio" version of Linux. -- BrionS

Comments

  • It still doesn't support fakeRAID which will already be in use by many people that use windows boxes to do a/v work. When on earth is someone going to pull their finger out and get fakeRAID implemented in the ubuntu and kubuntu installers!?
  • I will put a quotation of one of my sound engineer friend : "no matter what it looks, if you can work a day on, if it is functionnal, and if it sounds great". Do you think it is possible with Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio)? - ttoineBR

  • What's the current state for the amd64 architecture? I believe there's no metapackage yet; do you plan to support this arch. ? - rdoursenaud
    • We do not support 64 bit. We hope to support it for our next release. - C.Kontros
  • Can we get some good samples with this? I'm especially interested in public domain looped or long-sampled instruments in formats like .ITI; although a new instrument format using FLAC compression would be awesome. There's some good base samples at [http://freepats.opensrc.org/samples/imis/] but they need to be split up, tuned (i.e. have their C-4 sample rate set), and arranged in an .ITI. --JohnMoser

    • Sure. If you want to get together the samples and package it. Wink ;)

    • There's another bunch of free instrument samples, recorded in an anechoic room, at [http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html the University of Iowa]. They plan to add piano performances of all the Bach chorales. --MikeODonnell

    • I'm not sure I'd want to see raw samples as part of the distro - that tends to be very much a matter of personal preference, and what I might consider a crucial part of my kit could be viewed as a waste of space by another. However, if the instruments packaged with the distro come with sample sets contributed by the plugin devs, I'd regard that as a Good Thing. - patrick238
    • I think easy access to collections samples would be a big plus from the stand point of the audio oriented user, though I agree the don't really belong as a part of the distro itself. What if optional packages of samples were assembled according to some categorization such as instrument or music genre, similarly to the way commerical "sample packs" are currently bundled? Then users could pick which sample packages to install but still have easy access to them. - MarkRoddy

    • I don't know. I think if samples w/the audio package are restricted to high quality samples, as in professional level, then public domain samples would be appropriate to include. While there is a lot of personal preference involved with sample choices, I would imagine that most producers/beatmakers/whatevers would appreciate really good-sounding samples, of whatever stripe, and find something to do with them. A small selection could be included with the audio package, to give it an element of personality (as the best hard synths and audio software tools have). I wouldn't imagine there are that many high-quality public domain samples out there anyway. The "sample pack" idea could be implemented in parallel. -Adamc4

    • I think that including a few or a simple mechanism to get a handful of samples is important. I imagine a number of people will want to try things out without loading up libraries of clips or searching for them just so they can get an idea of the software. -SloggerKhan

  • What about the possibility of a low-latency kernel, like the one that the PlanetCCRMA guys built?

    • It is my understanding that the low-latency kernel will be installed by default only with the audio package. AndrewHunter

    • Great! One more step for us, audio students/workers, to get rid of Windoze!
  • For video/graphics at least some notes on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management colour management] are necessary, it would seem the only hardware colorimeter supported is an obsolete Xrite DP94. Modern equipment such as Pantone Huey, Eye-One Display LT/2, LaCie blue eye pro/2, would need to be run on Windows and the calibration data transfered over to Linux. As such a perfect opportunity to add into a Ubuntu Studio ["install.exe"] -- StevenMcCoy

    • Again, as above, we are packaging Ubuntu software. If the support for this hardware is available and someone packages it for Ubuntu, there is no reason not to include it. -- AndrewHunter

  • What about including links to or documentation for various multimedia tasks such as video editing, mixing audio, how analog synths work, etc. There seems to be a large amount of guides/tutorials online in various forms that possibly could be used. A lot of this software requires a fair amount of knowledge beyond what the manuals provide, and it would probably make ubuntustudio more friendly to the semipro/committed amateur user. --Adamc4
  • I`m open new group named [http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntustudio Ubuntu Studio] on Google Groups. Please visit it. --KeepYourMind

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