Meeting opened by akgraner at 23:01

• <akgraner> hi all - just a quick meeting to go over a couple things that are coming up within the next few weeks

  <akgraner> who is here for the meeting?

  <akgraner> 0/

  <cjohnston> o/

  <tyche> +1

  <scott_ev> +1

  <myrtlebeachbums> +1

  <akgraner> awesome!

  <johnc4510> and me

  <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Meetings/20100506

  <akgraner> is the short agenda - I'll make a better more formal one before the next meeting

  <akgraner> so UDS is next week - who from the News team will be there

  <akgraner> 0/

  <cjohnston> o/

  <johnc4510>

  <scott_ev>

  <akgraner> Fridge editors count too as part of news team

  <akgraner> any fridge folks going pleia2 you are right?

  <cjohnston> she is

  <pleia2> oops, the meeting is here

  <johnc4510> hey pleia2

  <pleia2> yep

  <akgraner> anyone else - I'm asking b/c there will be interviews from UDS and I was hoping to know who was available and stuff on site

  <cjohnston> I'll volunteer Hope

  <akgraner> cjohnston, thanks

  <cjohnston> lol

  <akgraner> [topic] UDS - Interviews

UDS - Interviews

• <akgraner> guess I should have done that a minute ago - sigh

• nhandler won't be there

  <akgraner> so Popey and I will be handling some streaming and video interviews on site at UDS

  <akgraner> humphreybc will be videoing as well

  <johnc4510> we should link that in this wks issue if you know where your putting it

  <akgraner> johnc4510, not a def on the location until we get to UDS

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> k

  <akgraner> but it's a little bit closer to being locked it

  <akgraner> so I wanted everyone to know about that

  <akgraner> [Topic] - Fridge Blueprint

- Fridge Blueprint

• <akgraner> Joey registered a Fridge Blueprint for UDS

  <akgraner> [link] - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fridge/+spec/community-m-fridge-and-news-team

• <popey> i might be streaming some

  <akgraner> popey, can you email url to where they can go to see them

  <popey> akgraner: yes, i will use an online service, which i need to test

  <akgraner> if you know that in advance that way we can tell people in this weeks UWN where to check

  <popey> will probably test on saturday

  <popey> i dont want to pre-tell people the url because I might not be able to

  <popey> if wifi reception is bad for example

  <akgraner> great if you know before say Sunday 1900 UTC that would be great

  <popey> or if lighting isnt good enough

  <johnc4510> we can also post it to the fridge closer to time if we don't know by sunday for the issue

  <akgraner> *nods*

  <popey> I'll post to planet and/or fridge if that helps

  <johnc4510> so popey just email us the link anytime to the -news-team list and we'll post it then

  <akgraner> and I won't know url's to other stream until Sunday as well

  <johnc4510> popey: cool

  <popey> but i dont want to pre-announce just in case

  <johnc4510> nods

  <akgraner> *nods*

  <popey> wouldn't want peoples expectations set too high

  <akgraner> popey, set them low then dazzle

  <popey>

  <johnc4510> lol

  <akgraner> so Fridge Blue Print - anyone not hear that the Fridge is moving to WP

  <akgraner> getting a new theme and all that good stuff

  <nhandler> Who is going to be driving this transition? joey ?

  <akgraner> nhandler, yes - joey

  <johnc4510> i'm so happy, nick and i tried to get it changed for a long time

  <nhandler> I think jono was pushing for this a while ago as well

  <akgraner> woo hoo - nick said the same thing

  <popey> yeah, jono set up a demo site at the last uds

  <johnc4510> nhandler: that's probably what got it thru

  <akgraner> so joey went over the information radiator concept with me and I think mentioned it in here a few times as well

• <akgraner> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?InformationRadiator

• <akgraner> http://theagileexecutive.com/2010/03/15/how-to-construct-a-great-information-radiator/

  <akgraner> those are the links joey had sent me to read about - as that is what he mentioned the original purpose vision of the fridge was based on

  <johnc4510> ? are those for statistics ?

  <akgraner> since I can now access the blueprint

  <akgraner> does anyone have ideas for it

  <akgraner> so I can add them to the blueprint

  <johnc4510> well we could set up something like a roadmap for the news team for the coming releases ???

  <akgraner> johnc4510, he meant it as we are the temperature gage so to speak of the community

  <akgraner> yep

  <tyche> Why restrict it to releases? There are other things going on in the Ubuntu community.

  <akgraner> to attach to the blueprint

  <johnc4510> nods

  <akgraner> well each cycle teams have roadmaps and goals for that cycle

  <tyche> What one might call "Ubuntu Community at a Glance"

  <akgraner> tyche - yeah I think the Fridge Team is already doing a great job of that btw

  <akgraner> but we needed to get some more imput for the blueprint and ideas to go over at UDS

  <tyche> I'm talking about white-boarding it, like your link showed.

  <johnc4510> akgraner: agreed, i was thinking more of setting it up in community form...what the dev teams are doing, loco teams...etc....toward the release

  <akgraner> yes, but everything on the whiteboard is usually on a wiki as well

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> maybe i'm not thinking right here

  <johnc4510> i think i need a better explaination maybe

  <akgraner> setting the Fridge up that way?

  <akgraner> or blueprint

  <akgraner> johnc4510, you have confused me now

  <johnc4510> lol

  <tyche> What I'm talking about is a semi-graphic showing a title, a status indicator, and holding a link for more information.

  <akgraner> ahh - that was one example joey gave me

  <tyche> Great minds, etc.

  <johnc4510> lol

  <akgraner> so anyone have ideas for the blueprint?

  <akgraner> I'll put up a wiki after the meeting - I am so new to the Fridge part - you all know better than me

  <akgraner> so I am deferring to you all for all that in put

  <johnc4510> are you asking what the new fridge set up should and shouldn't provide to us?

  <akgraner> yep

  <akgraner> what do you think it was missing

  <akgraner> what worked

  <johnc4510> we need to be able to embed images and video

  <akgraner> what hasn't

  <tyche> Mostly, organization. Everything was on the front page.

  <nhandler> The link to the forum is a pita

  <akgraner> do you want peer reviewed material written as original content for the Fridge people can submit

  <johnc4510> we also need a way for non-team members to post to the quay for approval by us

  <akgraner> then x number of news team members review and ack or nack it

  <pleia2> yeah, that'd be great

  <nhandler> johnc4510: I think joey said that non-team members will be able to save stories as a draft somehow but not publish (don't quote me on that)

  <nhandler> akgraner: If x == 1, then yes

  <akgraner> Should there be a separate Calendar added for LoCo teams

  <akgraner> so those meetings can be seen by community

  <akgraner> easily

  <nhandler> akgraner: I think we can use the events feed from the LD for that

  <johnc4510> well, we can't really post all the loco team events to the fridge calendar

  <johnc4510> it would be a mess

  <akgraner> right so should there be a LoCo Calendar

  <johnc4510> nods...at least i think so

  <akgraner> people have complained - that they can't access that stuff in one place easily

  <akgraner> what if they don't want to sign into LP

  <akgraner> etc

  <akgraner> should there be the Calendar for the Classroom events as well

  <nhandler> akgraner: The LD should handle the LoCo stuff. We can then pull from the LD if we want to display certain info

  <johnc4510> classroom event i think can still go on the fridge calendar

  <johnc4510> but

  <nhandler> johnc4510: ClassRoom already has its own calendar

  <johnc4510> each event that is all day type should only be listed once

  <johnc4510> with a link to the agenda

  <johnc4510> k

  <akgraner> nhandler, I just now learning what all LD is and is not for - but was told by mhall that the events calendar was not for LoCo Team meetings so I guess I need to understand what is for

  <nhandler> akgraner: I guess that depends on what "meeting" means

  <nhandler> akgraner: For instance, I consider a release party a type of LoCo meeting

  <akgraner> team meetings

  <akgraner> like this

  <tyche> One thing you will HAVE to do (based on my own experience) is convince people that they NEED to include a location and agenda.

  <nhandler> akgraner: You mean *IRC* team meetings

  <akgraner> nhandler, yes

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> nods

  <nhandler> akgraner: I don't think we need to include that stuff. The IRC meetings will usually only matter to the people in that LoCo

  <akgraner> hehe - I gotta get y'all a crystalball to read my mind

  <nhandler> They usually have their own calendars for that

  <akgraner> nhandler, with the move to cross-collaborate

  <cjohnston> I still want to make a LD that is only for IRC meetings.. in which you can rsvp

  <tyche> If you look through the last few UWN's, you'll see a lot of "not listed as of publication" in those slots.

  <akgraner> and invite projects to talk to loco teams and stuff there is no easy way to see when teams are doing what

  <nhandler> tyche: I know when I've helped people add events, I link them to the wiki page and make sure they include that info

  <tyche> I know. But there's still a lot of them who just haven't bothered to read how to do it, and don't ask for help.

  <akgraner> other loco teams are also curious as to how x team or another conducts their meetings

  <akgraner> and with searching their wiki pages etc still no easy way to located that information - but that amy be just me

  <tyche> I know that, at one time, it was all filtered through one poor person (me) to add the information, and I used to go crazy tracking down people to get information.

  <johnc4510> nods

  <nhandler> akgraner: I don't know, I still find that if I want to know when a certain team has there next meeting, it is easier to go to the wiki. I like a calendar to know what events are going on today

  <johnc4510> nods

  <johnc4510> i just drop into their channel and ask when the next meeting is

  <akgraner> one central calendar also paints a create picture in one stop to gage the activity of the LoCo Teams as a whole

  <akgraner> I guess I am looking both locally and globally

  <nhandler> I guess the question is, would the community want this?

  <nhandler> Maybe send an email to loco-contacts to find out

  <akgraner> we can do that

  <akgraner> I was just asking the question

  <akgraner> and I also see no harm in trying and if it's not received well then you take it down

  <akgraner> no harm

  <pleia2> fwiw, changing the "It is used for #ubuntu-meeting." on our /calendar page might help a bit if we want to keep it as a general meetings calendar (everyone is confused about whether it should really be -meeting only or not, since it SAYS its only for -meeting but people tell them otherwise, and some don't bother with location...)

  <johnc4510> nods

  <nhandler> akgraner: It would be a pain to setup, as you would need to hunt down each loco to add their meetings

  <akgraner> why can't the contacts add themselves?

  <cjohnston> I think if we are going to do a LoCo meeting calendar, it needs to be seperate than the fridge calendar... otherwise its gonna be so overrun, you wont be able to read it

  <akgraner> I'll send an email

  <johnc4510> well, it's not strickly -meeting...for instance if it an event, like bug day, it might not be in -meeting

  <nhandler> akgraner: They can, but it will take time for them to do it

  <akgraner> cjohnston, yes - no one is disagreeing

• johnc4510 agrees with cjohnston

  <pleia2> johnc4510: right, but that's not what it says on the page, look at the text on fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar

  <pleia2> johnc4510: that's my point

  <johnc4510> pleia2: oh, i agree

  <akgraner> that was never an issue - the questions was can we have a separate link to a LoCo Calendar

  <nhandler> akgraner: links are easy enough to add

  <akgraner> that's all

  <johnc4510> i say yes....then if they don't use it we can scrap it, or if they do...great

  <tyche> The flip side of that is what do you include in the UWN.

  <akgraner> and how the Calendar is populated we can work out

  <akgraner> tyche, we aren't there yet - still blueprint for UDS

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> yeah we can make that decission later...

  <tyche> Right now, Teams are adding their LoCo meetings to the calendar in order to have them published in the UWN.

  <akgraner> *nods*

  <johnc4510> thus this discussion

  <akgraner> That was another issue for another day

  <nhandler> tyche: How many LoCos are doing that?

  <akgraner> about UWN

  <johnc4510> brb

  <tyche> Sorry, I tend to take a holistic approach to things

  <akgraner> tyche, if you don't know off the top of your head we can figure it out this weekend

  <tyche> There are at least 5 that I can think of, right off hand.

  <tyche> But I couldn't name them, easily.

  <akgraner> so I think there are some great ideas here for the blueprint - I'll work on getting that written up and out to everyone

  <johnc4510> back

  <akgraner> so you all can tweak before UDS

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> k

  <akgraner> sound like a plan?

  <johnc4510> nods

  <nhandler> Yep

  <nhandler> I think the new fridge will develop more once we have a physical wp installation to play with

  <cjohnston> DC, cameroonian atleast

  <akgraner> [action] akgraner to add ideas from meeting to blueprint then sent to mailing list

• <tyche> May I suggest that instructions for adding events to the calendar(s) be put on the page(s)?

  <akgraner> tyche, good idea!

  <nhandler> +1 tyche

  <tyche> INCLUDING: Times are listed in UTC

  <akgraner> *nods*

  <nhandler> tyche: Listed in UTC, but added in localtime

  <johnc4510> with link to agenda's if they have one

  <akgraner> [topic] publishing UWN for May 9 (this Sunday) and May 16th (next Sunday)

publishing UWN for May 9 (this Sunday) and May 16th (next Sunday)

• <akgraner> so UWN is normally published on Sunday's - I'll be traveling both the 8th and the 15th - and Should providing there are no travel issues or wifi problems be able to publish from Brussels on Sunday

  <akgraner> and the same goes for the return trip the following weekend as I get back home on the night of he 15th

  <johnc4510> have a sprout for me

  <johnc4510>

  <akgraner> I should have almost all the content ready (at least links) for this issue late tomorrow

  <tyche> >>BAD PUN<<

  <johnc4510>

  <johnc4510> akgraner: np...we'll get it done

  <akgraner> in the event I am unable to help get it out the door - who besides out regular crew can be on stand by to lend a hand should johnc4510 need it?

  <akgraner> basically summarizing some articles

  <tyche> I will be here on the 9th

  <akgraner> cjohnston, will pull the stats on Sunday before he leaves so that is covered

  <akgraner> tyche, thanks

  <johnc4510> this wks. issue will be full again i think...the second one will taper off some

  <cjohnston> and on the google docs page incase someone messes with it

  <akgraner> Pen said she would copy my google doc and do some stuff off line as well

  <akgraner> johnc4510, tyche scott_ev will you be available as well this weekend?

  <johnc4510> akgraner: you need to give me the link to the google docs page just in case please

  <akgraner> myrtlebeachbums, I need to give you the links as well

  <johnc4510> i will...as always

  <akgraner> johnc4510, I think you have it

  <myrtlebeachbums> k

  <akgraner> but I'll send it again

  <johnc4510> kk

  <akgraner> it anyone else wants to help out just let me know and I'll give ya a section of the newsletter to help with

  <johnc4510> i haven't bookmarked it so please resend it

  <MTecknology> I'd love to find the time to help out

  <akgraner> We will also be adding content nightly at UDS - and by we I guess I mean me and whomever wants to help from there

  <johnc4510> MTecknology: just jump in HEE HEE

  <akgraner> ok one last thing

• imbrandon got the UTC time wrong

  <MTecknology> johnc4510: I've done that in too many places

  <johnc4510>

  <akgraner> [topic] - 200th ISSUE

- 200th ISSUE

• <akgraner> woo hoo

  <MTecknology> party

  <johnc4510> w00t!!!

  <akgraner> the 200th Issue will be publish July 4th Weekend

  <akgraner> so it is approaching fast

  <akgraner> some of the interviews we will conduct at UDS will be for this issue

  <akgraner> and not that we want hide or not be transparent - but some of that we want to be a surprise for readers on that weekend

  <tyche> akgraner: Do you have someone who can do transcription?

  <johnc4510> i hope you have mark, jane and jono at the top of the list

  <akgraner> yes and couple people have said they would help

  <akgraner> johnc4510, yep they are on the list

  <johnc4510> akgraner: so, these are video interviews??

  <akgraner> yes about UDS

  <akgraner> like last time

  <akgraner> but the 200th issue one - will be print

  <akgraner> email - however you want to say it

  <akgraner> but I can see if we can get short video clips from them about UWN as well

  <akgraner> Here is the link to the 100th Issue

  <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue100

  <akgraner> over the next week if you have suggestions for this issue - I'll have a wiki page up for you to add to

  <johnc4510> good, we need to get the outline started

  <akgraner> is there anyone who wants to suggested anything now?

  <johnc4510> time is running

  <akgraner> that maybe wasn't included in the 100th that you were like - dang we should have done x

  <akgraner> we have about a minute - I didn't intend to keep everyone this long sorry

  <johnc4510> the thing that is changing in some cases are the different people

  <akgraner> anything else before I close the meeting

  <johnc4510> nope

  <johnc4510> just that we need to get started on this...outline especially

  <akgraner> thank you every one ! Any objections to monthly news meetings?

  <johnc4510> no

  <nhandler> Nope

  <nhandler> Just get them on the fridge

  <akgraner> nhandler,

  <imbrandon> nope, great idea, i just need to pay better attention to the clock, and i think -meeting would be better

  <MTecknology> I liked the email announce too

• johnc4510 says...if that's it....later all

• nhandler can't remember the reasoning for using -news instead of -meeting

  <imbrandon> nhandler: there was another meeting in there at 2300

  <imbrandon> but not 22 or 24

  <akgraner> -meeting is not always going to be available

  <johnc4510> as we get further along on the 200th issue planning we don't want everyone knowing what's going to be in it

  <akgraner> and -meeting does not have Mootbot-UK

  <akgraner>

  <johnc4510> it is suppose to be news lol

  <akgraner> so - anyone want to chair the meeting next time

  <cjohnston> when is it

  <johnc4510> i can if you or someone else doesn't want to

  <akgraner> I sent out a survey - Thursday 2300 was the most popular time

  <cjohnston> which thursday

  <akgraner> any thursday

  <imbrandon> first thursday's of the month seem good, since this is

  <akgraner> I think everyone who wants to should have a turn at leading meetings

  <akgraner> so since cjohnston volunteered -

  <cjohnston> so thursday the third?

  <cjohnston> i what?

  <johnc4510> i did, not cjohnston

  <johnc4510> lol

  <johnc4510> cjohnston: lol

  <akgraner> How does June 3rd, 2010 - 2300 sound

  <cjohnston> as long as its not a work day i can

  <cjohnston> im good with it

  <imbrandon> sounds good to me

  <johnc4510> k

  <akgraner> [action] next news team meeting - June 3rd, 2010 - 2300 in ubuntu-news - cjohnston to chair

• <akgraner> #endmeeting

Meeting closed at 00:05

People Present

• akgraner
• cjohnston
• tyche
• scott_ev
• myrtlebeachbums
• johnc4510
• pleia2
• nhandler
• popey
• MTecknology
• imbrandon

Actions Recorded

• akgraner to add ideas from meeting to blueprint then sent to mailing list

• next news team meeting - June 3rd, 2010 - 2300 in ubuntu-news - cjohnston to chair - he agreed

Agenda

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