20110129
Ubuntu Youth Meeting Log from January 29'th, 2011
Topics of Discussion
Who |
What |
Start of meeting, and such |
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Welcoming message |
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Topic 1 - Project(s) Status & Completion Dates |
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Topic 2 - New Members of the Council |
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Topic 3 - New Membership Process Discussion |
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Topic 4 - Slightly New Team Process/Ideas |
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All Participants |
Topic 5 - Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, bring them up! |
Meeting Log
1 Started logging meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
2 [11:04:25] * arch_is_awesome is Laughing
3 [11:04:45] <nisshh> can i get a headcount to see who is here then please
4 [11:04:54] <serfus> o/
5 [11:04:57] * phillw here
6 [11:04:57] <Mkaysi> o/
7 [11:05:08] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, ?
8 [11:05:09] <MH0> o/
9 [11:05:09] * arch_is_awesome is ponging
10 [11:05:13] <nisshh> cool
11 [11:05:19] <nisshh> ok, first topic
12 [11:05:19] <MH0> arch_is_awesome: Say "o/"
13 [11:05:25] <skfin> o/
14 [11:05:32] <shadeslayer> o/
15 [11:05:33] <arch_is_awesome> Oops, I just usually use ping pong okay
16 [11:05:36] <arch_is_awesome> o/
17 [11:05:42] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Project(s) Status & Completion Dates
18 [11:06:02] <nisshh> now, i dont know who is actually doing projects, anyone?
19 [11:06:13] <shadeslayer> i'll be in and out of this channel .... so just ping me if you want something from me :P
20 [11:06:23] <nisshh> shadeslayer, ok
21 [11:06:35] <Kaia> o/
22 [11:06:36] <hakimsheriff> wait i will be back
23 [11:06:44] <MH0> I can do a few projects
24 [11:06:50] <MH0> Just need the ideas :)
25 [11:06:54] <nisshh> serfus, do you know?
26 [11:07:01] <arch_is_awesome> I might reboot my computer at some point, I am having problems with peripherals
27 [11:07:01] <MH0> I can work on that youth.ubnut.com
28 [11:07:01] <serfus> i think AndrewMC was about to start mentoring
29 [11:07:09] <nisshh> was he
30 [11:07:10] <nisshh> ok
31 [11:07:18] <MH0> serfus: Its okay
32 [11:07:26] <skfin> nisshh: I have a project about getting planet stable and not to break every day, estimated completion date: never
33 [11:07:30] <phillw> nisshh: the guy who was going to do the website has had to resign, there is a replacement available, but the council would need to discuss that as it does them access to my server.
34 [11:07:46] <nisshh> skfin, ok
35 [11:07:59] <nisshh> phillw, yep, we can talk about that later in -council then
36 [11:08:00] <MH0> phillw: Can we pijng in -council after meeting? :)
37 [11:08:37] <nisshh> ok, shall we move on then?
38 [11:08:44] <MH0> nisshh: Yup
39 [11:08:48] <nisshh> ok
40 [11:08:49] <phillw> of course, the agreement last meeting is that I only give root access to one person.
41 [11:09:15] <nisshh> [TOPIC]New Members of the Council
42 [11:09:18] <nisshh> ok
43 [11:09:27] <nisshh> as far as i know, the only changes here
44 [11:09:34] <nisshh> are two new members
45 [11:09:36] <arch_is_awesome> I have never gone to a meeting before.
46 [11:09:47] <MH0> arch_is_awesome: Stay cool :)
47 [11:09:48] <nisshh> me and MH0
48 [11:09:57] <MH0> :)
49 [11:09:59] <nisshh> MH0, michaelh?
50 [11:10:12] <MH0> nisshh: Yeah Im michealH
51 [11:10:15] <nisshh> ok
52 [11:10:24] <serfus> i'm quite new as well
53 [11:10:34] <nisshh> and jasono also got op in -youth
54 [11:10:39] <nisshh> ok, and serfus :)
55 [11:10:53] <arch_is_awesome> Quick Question - Does launchpad keep track of members?
56 [11:10:54] <MH0> So If you need me or ryan I have no issues with people PMing me
57 [11:10:58] <MH0> arch_is_awesome: Yes
58 [11:11:07] <MH0> arch_is_awesome: Verified members are added
59 [11:11:21] <nisshh> ok, moving along
60 [11:11:33] <arch_is_awesome> One sec. what is the launchpad page?
61 [11:11:49] <serfus> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth
62 [11:11:49] <nisshh> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-youth
63 [11:11:51] <nisshh> i think
64 [11:11:52] <arch_is_awesome> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youth ?
65 [11:11:58] <arch_is_awesome> Ahh.
66 [11:11:58] <nisshh> thats the one yes
67 [11:12:03] <nisshh> forgot the tilde
68 [11:12:25] <serfus> arch_is_awesome, seems like you are already a part of the team
69 [11:12:29] <arch_is_awesome> For some reason I am on the list....
70 [11:12:42] <arch_is_awesome> That is what I meant.
71 [11:12:57] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, i think i accidently approved you the other day, before we got a chance to vote you in :)
72 [11:13:05] <arch_is_awesome> Member since: 2010-02-16
73 [11:13:09] <hakimsheriff> so lets vote now
74 [11:13:14] <nisshh> oh ok
75 [11:13:54] <nisshh> ok
76 [11:14:09] <skfin> Is AndrewMC around?
77 [11:14:13] <nisshh> [VOTE] Membership of arch_is_awesome
78 [11:14:23] <serfus> skfin, no he isn't
79 [11:14:26] <serfus> +1
80 [11:14:28] <Mkaysi> +1
81 [11:14:29] <Muscovy> +1
82 [11:14:30] <nisshh> +1
83 [11:14:33] <hakimsheriff> +1
84 [11:14:35] <Kaia> +1
85 [11:14:37] <skfin> +0
86 [11:14:56] <nisshh> [ENDVOTE]
87 [11:14:59] <nisshh> ok
88 [11:15:06] <nisshh> welcome to the team arch_is_awesome
89 [11:15:08] <serfus> arch_is_awesome, welcome aboard!
90 [11:15:10] <skfin> I dont know enough about him to vote for :)
91 [11:15:15] <skfin> Welcome anyways!
92 [11:15:15] <hakimsheriff> Welcome!!!
93 [11:15:18] <arch_is_awesome> Thanks.
94 [11:15:37] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, maybe you could tell us a bit about yourself then>
95 [11:15:38] <nisshh> ?
96 [11:15:49] <arch_is_awesome> Okay then,
97 [11:15:54] <nisshh> just quickly
98 [11:16:12] <arch_is_awesome> I usually use chakra or ubuntu linux, I know python and pyqt
99 [11:16:23] <skfin> +1 :)
100 [11:16:24] <arch_is_awesome> Also I am 12, live in jacksonville, FL USA
101 [11:16:28] <phillw> arch_is_awesome: having a wiki page is always handy :)
102 [11:16:31] <nisshh> nice
103 [11:16:39] <nisshh> +1 to what phillw said
104 [11:16:42] <arch_is_awesome> I am in 6th Grade
105 [11:16:54] <arch_is_awesome> Okay, all done (for now)
106 [11:17:00] <Kaia> arch_is_awesome: you have a launchpad page don't you?
107 [11:17:09] <arch_is_awesome> https://launchpad.net/~stephenmac7
108 [11:17:19] <Kaia> ^link to arch_is_awesome
109 [11:17:21] <nisshh> phillw, do you know anything about the new team process/etc? (the next topic)
110 [11:18:20] <nisshh> phillw, ?
111 [11:18:23] <phillw> nisshh: we are recruiting council members, that way there should always be enough around for meetings.
112 [11:18:35] <hakimsheriff> i want to be 1
113 [11:18:35] <nisshh> ok
114 [11:18:54] <nisshh> hakimsheriff, we offer, not the other way around :)
115 [11:19:19] <hakimsheriff> okay, sorry
116 [11:19:20] <nisshh> ok, do we have any other new members that need voting on?
117 [11:19:22] <phillw> they must have signed the CoC and have a wiki page for them to be considered.
118 [11:20:00] <arch_is_awesome> I have seen Zach's wiki page, I am not so sure I can write that much about myself
119 [11:20:14] <serfus> arch_is_awesome, i will help you, don't worry :)
120 [11:20:18] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, it doesnt need to be that extensive
121 [11:20:31] <nisshh> ok, moving along
122 [11:20:34] <Mkaysi> arch_is_awesome: My wikipage is better example. It's so small. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/mkaysi
123 [11:20:41] * pedro3005 appears
124 [11:20:46] <arch_is_awesome> I'll take a look,
125 [11:20:56] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Slightly New Team Process/Ideas
126 [11:21:00] <nisshh> ok
127 [11:21:07] <phillw> arch_is_awesome: you ought to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
128 [11:21:10] <phillw> lol
129 [11:21:12] <nisshh> so apart from the council recruiting new members
130 [11:21:24] <nisshh> does anyone have any idea's for the team?
131 [11:21:54] <arch_is_awesome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw is quite extensive :)
132 [11:21:56] <nisshh> Mkaysi, arch_is_awesome, phillw, serfus, ?
133 [11:22:02] <hakimsheriff> helping people getting more involved with ubuntu teams
134 [11:22:03] <serfus> i know about the mentoring plan, tough not enough
135 [11:22:12] <nisshh> yes
136 [11:22:15] <MH0> Oop.. Havent been watching
137 [11:22:21] <nisshh> serfus, we must ask zach about that :)
138 [11:22:24] <pedro3005> well, if I may, I was discussing that in the channel recently. It seems that there's too much attention to the infrastructure of the team (i.e. bureaucracy) and not much attention to actually doing stuff
139 [11:22:28] <arch_is_awesome> nisshh: Thinking...
140 [11:22:39] <skfin> I will be away now on, please ping me if you guys need me->
141 [11:22:56] <arch_is_awesome> pedro3005, I agree, that is what I was about to say... :)
142 [11:22:59] <nisshh> pedro3005, yes, the mentoring system will change that soon, although ideas are welcome
143 [11:23:08] <phillw> I'm pretty full with padawans at the moment, I'd like jasono to get involved to further his knowledge.
144 [11:23:33] <nisshh> thats cool
145 [11:23:38] <serfus> i just took arch_is_awesome as my "padawan"
146 [11:23:48] <arch_is_awesome> About the mentoring system, how exactly is that going to work? Email, Jabber, or what?
147 [11:24:11] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, tbh, im not sure, its something zkreisse has been working on, i have yet to ask him about it
148 [11:24:18] <Mkaysi> Email, Jabber or IRC.
149 [11:24:22] <nisshh> i assume that IRC/email will be used
150 [11:24:26] <serfus> arch_is_awesome, i will catch you up after the meeting
151 [11:24:26] <Kaia> Can i be your padawan serfus?
152 [11:24:27] <arch_is_awesome> query?
153 [11:24:42] <arch_is_awesome> or in some mentoring channel?
154 [11:24:50] <arch_is_awesome> (If it is IRC)
155 [11:24:53] <serfus> not a channel i don't think so
156 [11:24:54] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, i would say, just in -youth
157 [11:24:56] <phillw> arch_is_awesome: I finally nagged the UBT council into submission and bioterror is the 1st mentor (I quickly sold his slave to him :P )
158 [11:25:22] <nisshh> anyone have anything else to say before we move on?
159 [11:26:05] <serfus> guess not :P
160 [11:26:05] <nisshh> ok
161 [11:26:06] <arch_is_awesome> Yes, the mentoring, what is the plan (meaning how is it going to work)
162 [11:26:27] <phillw> nisshh: can you post up the UBT link onto your wiki area?
163 [11:26:31] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, like i said before, i dont know the details, i will ask zach as soon as i see him though :)
164 [11:26:44] <nisshh> phillw, what link?
165 [11:26:46] <arch_is_awesome> Are the metors going to see what the users know and then build on that?
166 [11:26:52] <arch_is_awesome> nisshh okay
167 [11:27:01] <serfus> there is no a complete plan
168 [11:27:02] <serfus> yet
169 [11:27:10] <arch_is_awesome> Okay, moving on...
170 [11:27:32] <nisshh> arch_is_awesome, basically, as most mentoring systems work, each mentor will be assigned one or more mentee's and then they can sort of guide them
171 [11:27:36] <nisshh> thats all i know
172 [11:27:48] <nisshh> righto
173 [11:27:50] <arch_is_awesome> Okay then, that is enough.
174 [11:28:09] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, bring them up!
175 [11:28:20] <nisshh> ok, if anyone has any questions, go ahead
176 [11:28:20] <MH0> nisshh: Right
177 [11:28:21] <Mkaysi> I know that padawans are called as slaves, but they are only joking (but I think that they aren't).
178 [11:28:31] <MH0> I want to say something
179 [11:28:37] <nisshh> MH0, go ahead
180 [11:28:47] <phillw> nisshh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/
181 [11:28:56] <nisshh> phillw, what about it?
182 [11:29:05] <MH0> Earlier there was a spam attack outside UY, and I think us (the council) needs to defibne what to do as being as some spam links may not be nice to see
183 [11:29:38] <MH0> We need to think of a policy to deine such a thing
184 [11:29:48] <arch_is_awesome> I agree
185 [11:29:49] <MH0> I think AndrewMC, had one, thoguh
186 [11:29:55] <nisshh> but if this attack happened in channels outside of the youth teams, i dont see it as our issue?
187 [11:29:56] <Mkaysi> MH0: evilMichealH +1 supybot with badwords (with URLs) +2
188 [11:30:05] <nisshh> zkriesse, hey
189 [11:30:09] <nisshh> you late
190 [11:30:12] <nisshh> your*
191 [11:30:12] <zkriesse> I know
192 [11:30:17] <zkriesse> Internet troubles
193 [11:30:19] <nisshh> zkriesse, we are on the last topic :)
194 [11:30:23] <Mkaysi> nisshh: #ubuntu-stack was attacked by spamming.
195 [11:30:40] <zkriesse> nisshh: Who's chairing
196 [11:30:41] <MH0> zkriesse: Can you +Vv arch_is_awesome In UY
197 [11:30:46] <nisshh> Mkaysi, right, which is not our channel, so i fail to see what it has to do with us
198 [11:30:48] <MH0> zkriesse: nisshh
199 [11:30:52] <phillw> MH0: there has been a discussion on the doc email list about spam attacks, the best way is for those who know wiki to subscribe to the pages, that way they get alerted for every change and can see the changes.
200 [11:30:54] <Kaia> hey zkriesse
201 [11:30:57] <serfus> i don't think we should involve bans with other channels
202 [11:31:21] <nisshh> agreed
203 [11:31:24] <MH0> serfus: But spam links may not be very Touth freindly esp. from spambots
204 [11:31:29] <MH0> *youth
205 [11:31:44] <nisshh> MH0, we only need to moderate spam in the youth channels
206 [11:31:48] <arch_is_awesome> agreed
207 [11:31:50] <phillw> MH0: there are so many of us admin to go around!
208 [11:31:59] <Mkaysi> If spambots are attacking #ubuntu-stack why they couldn't attack #ubuntu-youth ?
209 [11:32:02] <serfus> sure, but we have no sign that he will attack our channel
210 [11:32:04] <nisshh> outside of that, its not something the youth team can really control
211 [11:32:13] <zkriesse> They haven't, it's not our channel, if they do we'll do something
212 [11:32:24] <nisshh> exactly
213 [11:32:28] <MH0> Okies
214 [11:32:29] <zkriesse> But until they do we have our own channel to maintain...plus we haven't been ASKED to help that channel
215 [11:32:32] <MH0> Just a idea :)
216 [11:32:54] <hakimsheriff> i agree with zkriesse
217 [11:33:01] <Mkaysi> IDEA: Setup supybot with BadWords and add spam URL:s as badwords.
218 [11:33:02] <MH0> I was talking about a poliy for spams outside UY to be banned inslide UY incase spambots had bad links
219 [11:33:33] <nisshh> Mkaysi, we arent putting your bot in -youth, its way too spammy
220 [11:33:37] <serfus> i too agree with zkriesse and nisshh
221 [11:33:53] <arch_is_awesome> I agree with serfus
222 [11:33:59] <nisshh> ok
223 [11:34:01] <Mkaysi> nisshh: My bot would cause problems, and I am not talking about it.
224 [11:34:15] <nisshh> heh
225 [11:34:17] <nisshh> ok
226 [11:34:23] <nisshh> anyone have any other questions?
227 [11:34:43] <Mkaysi> nisshh: Ubot4 is supybot? Couldn't it do that? (BadWords is comes by default in supybot)
228 [11:34:46] <nisshh> zkriesse, im charing btw
229 [11:34:47] <zkriesse> Ok, while a team opinion is good on such a matter on spambots in other channels, ultimately somthing of that nature would be a council decision
230 [11:34:53] <nisshh> chairing*
231 [11:35:02] <zkriesse> nisshh: So i've noticed...I appreciate you taking charge
232 [11:35:05] <nisshh> Mkaysi, im not familiar with the bots
233 [11:35:20] <nisshh> zkriesse, yeah, it was either me or serfus really
234 [11:35:35] <MH0> nisshh: And me? :P
235 [11:35:46] <serfus> MH0, you were not here as well
236 [11:35:48] <nisshh> oh, or MH0 :)
237 [11:35:59] <serfus> when we have started
238 [11:36:03] <nisshh> MH0, but you werent her at the time :)
239 [11:36:09] <zkriesse> Really who chairs the meeting for UY is council members
240 [11:36:12] <zkriesse> Not just anyone
241 [11:36:21] <nisshh> yeah
242 [11:36:29] <serfus> anyhows let's continue
243 [11:36:53] <nisshh> ok, so if no one else has anything to add, i will end the meeting?
244 [11:37:06] <zkriesse> Hold on
245 [11:37:28] <zkriesse> So all topics have been covered?
246 [11:37:31] <arch_is_awesome> zkriesse: Yes
247 [11:37:50] <Kaia> i have nothiing to add
248 [11:37:53] <zkriesse> Ok then
249 [11:37:55] <nisshh> zkriesse, well, as much as could be without you here, yes
250 [11:38:04] <zkriesse> Well then let's go through it a bit
251 [11:38:08] <zkriesse> We've still got half an hour
252 [11:38:21] <nisshh> sure
253 [11:38:24] <serfus> okay
254 [11:38:34] <zkriesse> Ok, back to first topic if you please nisshh
255 [11:38:35] <arch_is_awesome> Need to leave for a sec.
256 [11:38:42] <nisshh> ok
257 [11:39:04] <zkriesse> #project status(s)
258 [11:39:06] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Project(s) Status & Completion Dates
259 [11:39:09] <serfus> zkriesse, we didn't have much to say about topic 1 and 2
260 [11:39:21] <nisshh> what serfus said
261 [11:39:23] <zkriesse> Well, I kinda wanted to know...how are they progressing
262 [11:39:37] <zkriesse> Ok then, Topic 3 is one I do need to talk about
263 [11:39:39] <nisshh> i dont even remember who had projects last meeting
264 [11:39:44] <MH0> zkriesse: I have a new proposition for a project
265 [11:39:54] <zkriesse> MH0: We'll take care of that in UY
266 [11:40:03] <nisshh> maybe we need a projects page on the wiki zkriesse?
267 [11:40:07] <MH0> In UYC? Its concerning the Website
268 [11:40:18] <zkriesse> nisshh: Indeed you're very right on that
269 [11:40:23] <nisshh> ok
270 [11:40:44] <zkriesse> nisshh: Topic 3 if you please
271 [11:40:47] <nisshh> [ACTION] nisshh to setup a project summary page on the wiki
272 [11:40:51] <nisshh> sure
273 [11:41:06] <nisshh> [TOPIC]New Membership Process Discussion
274 [11:41:21] <nisshh> zkriesse, go ahead
275 [11:41:32] <zkriesse> Ok, due to the UY Council growing in size, we will be having a slightly different membership process
276 [11:41:56] <MH0> Mentorship at last? :)
277 [11:42:11] <nisshh> Mkaysi, serfus, arch_is_awesome, you all listening?
278 [11:42:20] <zkriesse> For a while it was simply, "Apply, check the users lp and wiki page(s) if applicable, and then choose an experienced mentor to lead said applicant"
279 [11:42:26] <serfus> sure
280 [11:42:28] <zkriesse> Well, skip last part
281 [11:42:38] <zkriesse> Just find em, get them a wiki page, they're in
282 [11:42:47] <nisshh> yep
283 [11:42:54] <nisshh> so whats changing?
284 [11:42:59] <hakimsheriff> dats good
285 [11:43:06] * Mkaysi is listening.
286 [11:43:25] <zkriesse> But, since we are getting a sizable council, we should be able to find a few more good experienced folks who are willing to help lead/mentor the inexperienced or those who wish to be mentored in a particular subject
287 [11:43:59] <zkriesse> Not necissarily will it be the Council doing the leading but us and a few others who ask/and are approved to do so
288 [11:44:22] <zkriesse> That make any sense?
289 [11:44:24] <serfus> so we will get the mentoring project more sorted out
290 [11:44:26] <serfus> that's good
291 [11:44:31] <zkriesse> Yes indeed serfus
292 [11:44:45] * hakimsheriff agree with zkriesse completly
293 [11:44:55] <nisshh> zkriesse, i think once the process gets worked out, a mentoring page in the wiki would be good
294 [11:45:05] <arch_is_awesome> Google just sent a new computer here, I forgot about it.
295 [11:45:18] <arch_is_awesome> I will come to the next meeting.
296 [11:45:27] <zkriesse> nisshh: I was gonna work on that..if you'd like to collaborate with me on that and the project page that'd be awesome
297 [11:45:35] <nisshh> sure
298 [11:45:37] <arch_is_awesome> Just need to get this to work, curiosity is killing me,
299 [11:45:54] <serfus> arch_is_awesome, sure, i'll update you
300 [11:46:05] <nisshh> zkriesse, have anything else to add?
301 [11:46:06] <zkriesse> arch_is_awesome: Don't worry, there will be logs
302 [11:46:21] <zkriesse> nisshh: For that topic? Nadah
303 [11:46:25] <nisshh> ok
304 [11:46:30] <nisshh> any other topic?
305 [11:46:37] <zkriesse> And that somewhat merges into topic four so we're good!
306 [11:46:42] <nisshh> ok
307 [11:46:50] <zkriesse> If nobody has anything else to add feel free to end the meeting nisshh
308 [11:46:50] <nisshh> ill end the meeting then
309 [11:46:54] <nisshh> yep
310 [11:46:59] <nisshh> #endmeeting
311 Meeting ended.
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