Meeting Info

Meetings are held every 4th Tuesday of each month at 20:30 SAST (UTC+2) and are pretty informal. Anyone is free to join in and give comments and suggestions, its even encouraged. Please introduce yourself to the bot at the start of the meeting so he can take note of all members present as follows:





[18:31:10] STARTED (pieter2627)
[18:31:47] TOPIC: Welcoming and Introduction (pieter2627)
[18:35:54] TOPIC: Review minutes of previous meeting (pieter2627)
[18:43:01] TOPIC: Plans for 2015 (pieter2627)
[18:54:22] IDEA: add meeting to the fridge (pieter2627)
[18:54:32] IDEA: add meeting to meetup.com (pieter2627)
[18:56:28] IDEA: add meeting to a public google calendar (pieter2627)
[18:57:38] TOPIC: Events (pieter2627)
[19:11:23] TOPIC: Miscellaneous (pieter2627)
[19:25:37] TOPIC: Elect chairperson for next meeting (pieter2627)
[19:28:55] AGREED: pieter2627 to chair next meeting (pieter2627)
[19:29:13] TOPIC: Next meeting (pieter2627)
[19:30:32] AGREED: next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30 (pieter2627)
[19:31:07] ENDED (pieter2627)


* Raoul Snyman (superfly)
* kulelu88 (kulelu88)
* Greg Eames (magespawn)
* Charl le Roux (clr_)
* Bradley Cloete (unlaudable)
* Miles Sharpe (Kilos)
* Gustav H Meyer (inetpro)
* Vince-0
* Bruce Pieterse (octoquad)
* Pieter Engelbrecht (pieter2627)
* Grant Woodford (gwood)
* nlsthzn
* kapanda


Raw Log

[18:31:10] <pieter2627> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Aug 2015
[18:31:10] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:31:18] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:31:18] <Maaz> inetpro: Alrighty
[18:31:22] <kulelu88> gwood: which varsity?
[18:31:27] <gwood> NMMU
[18:31:43] <kulelu88> schweet
[18:31:47] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction
[18:31:47] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:31:47] <gwood> Maaz: I am Grant Woodford
[18:31:47] <Maaz> gwood: Sure
[18:31:51] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:31:51] <Maaz> superfly: Sure
[18:31:59] <pieter2627> Good evening everyone, welcome and thanks for attending the meeting
[18:32:01] <kulelu88> Maaz: I am kulelu88 
[18:32:01] <Maaz> kulelu88: Okay
[18:32:07] <pieter2627> Please introduce yourselves to maaz for the minutes using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg.
[18:32:09] <clr_> Maaz: I am Charl le Roux
[18:32:09] <Maaz> clr_: Okay
[18:32:18] <pieter2627> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:32:18] <Maaz> pieter2627: Righto
[18:32:47] <pieter2627> the agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150825
[18:33:01] <unlaudable> Maaz: I am Bradley Cloete
[18:33:01] <Maaz> unlaudable: Okay
[18:33:07] <pieter2627> and last minute topic suggestions is welcomed if anyone has any
[18:33:44] * nlsthzn would love to stay but bed calls... gnight
[18:34:32] <Kilos> Maaz I am Miles Sharpe
[18:34:32] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[18:34:40] <unlaudable> topic: how on earth does safair's website not cope even when using cloudflare :-)
[18:35:09] <inetpro> haha
[18:35:17] <pieter2627> Kilos: anyone still seem missing?
[18:35:26] <Kilos> welcome to our new chairman
[18:35:38] <Kilos> octoquad ping
[18:35:54] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:35:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:35:56] <Kilos> many missing
[18:36:01] <inetpro> oh yes, thanks pieter2627 for taking the hot seat this evening
[18:36:18] <pieter2627> while we wait for others the previous meeting's minutes can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728
[18:36:27] <magespawn> good evening
[18:36:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:37:38] <Kilos> magespawn meeting hey so login please
[18:37:53] <octoquad> Kilos, hello.
[18:37:56] <octoquad> Hello all
[18:38:17] <Kilos> yoohoo octoquad wb you attending the meeting sir?
[18:38:40] <octoquad> sure, forgot there was one tonight, thanks for pinging me
[18:38:48] <octoquad> Maaz: I am Bruce Pieterse
[18:38:48] <Maaz> octoquad: Sure
[18:39:11] <Kilos> Squirm nuvolari MaNI you guys are welcome to attend
[18:40:08] <Kilos> and ambo bmg505 cyrilb danfowler and whoever ive missed
[18:40:22] <pieter2627> everyone ok with the minutes from last meeting?
[18:41:46] <Kilos> Private_User are you attending??
[18:41:51] <superfly> Looks OK to me, I don't think I was here.
[18:42:20] <pieter2627> not that i can remember superfly 
[18:42:51] <magespawn> good evening (again)
[18:42:51] <pieter2627> right, moving on then
[18:43:01] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Plans for 2015
[18:43:01] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2015
[18:43:03] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[18:43:10] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[18:43:10] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[18:43:30] <kulelu88> ping gremble
[18:43:46] <Kilos> he is offline here
[18:44:07] <pieter2627> i guess it is the usual for plans...
[18:44:48] <pieter2627> a question, 'Get more people to join [link to site]' - is that correct
[18:45:11] <gwood> Are there any plans/events close to PE?
[18:45:24] <pieter2627> it link to ubuntu za site..
[18:45:42] <Kilos> inetpro ^#
[18:45:45] <Kilos> 3
[18:45:48] <inetpro> pieter2627: you have a better suggestion?
[18:46:13] <inetpro> if people don't know about ubuntu-za where would they start?
[18:46:13] <Kilos> ai! i cant get use to this lappy b/board
[18:46:14] <pieter2627> no, just wondering how one joins a website
[18:46:35] <inetpro> fair point
[18:46:38] <Kilos> there are join buttons arent there
[18:46:51] <Kilos> to join us not the sight
[18:46:52] * pieter2627 checking
[18:47:06] <unlaudable> anyone here use meetup.com?
[18:47:09] <inetpro> it says right there, "Please join us in using, working on, and helping others with Ubuntu."
[18:47:24] <kulelu88> me unlaudable 
[18:47:28] <Kilos> there is an irc direc link to here ans the ML should be there too
[18:47:33] <unlaudable> it seems to be the popular way to organise an event these days, might work for this to
[18:47:48] <octoquad> unlaudable, me
[18:48:02] <pieter2627> inetpro: ok
[18:48:53] <kulelu88> unlaudable: there is already LUGs on meetup, so linux-related stuff happens
[18:49:14] <inetpro> unlaudable: we are not organised enough? :-)
[18:49:18] <pieter2627> anyone signed or planning on signing COC, membership, got LP IDs?
[18:50:08] * unlaudable cant remember if he's signed...
[18:50:21] <unlaudable> have a launchpad id... 
[18:50:23] <Kilos> hehe what a job
[18:50:47] <pieter2627> sorry meaning for last/this month
[18:50:58] <Kilos> anyone that has probs ping pro
[18:51:06] <unlaudable> I was just mentioning meetup as a way to enable people to "join"
[18:51:15] <unlaudable> convenience...
[18:51:31] <inetpro> for inspiration see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos
[18:51:40] <Kilos> ai!
[18:51:41] <magespawn> some people also like to have other people to talk to
[18:51:45] <octoquad> unlaudable, you mean alternative platforms to connect right?
[18:52:17] <unlaudable> well meetup wont do that, I was just thinking as a way to add to a calendar of sorts and be reminded
[18:52:54] <Kilos> inetpro we can add our meets to the fridge
[18:52:58] * inetpro has never used meetup
[18:53:02] <pieter2627> seems that it can also inform unaware users of us
[18:53:04] <Kilos> we=you of course
[18:53:35] <Kilos> the peeps that savvy thunderbird can get reminders
[18:53:38] <unlaudable> there are a ton of communities on there jozilug, ansible puppet
[18:53:41] <Kilos> then
[18:53:48] <kulelu88> I suggest you guys connect with JLUG to attract users here. they already have the target-market
[18:53:58] * unlaudable has a dream that there would be an event one day that will join them all :-)
[18:54:01] <magespawn> sorry unlaudable i thought you meant meetups as in launch parties etc
[18:54:03] <gwood> I think it makes sense to plan an event, but give notice through multiple avenues, such as meetup, facebooks, email, etc.
[18:54:05] <unlaudable> one event to rule them all
[18:54:22] <pieter2627> Maaz: idea add meeting to the fridge
[18:54:22] <Maaz> Idea recorded: add meeting to the fridge
[18:54:32] <pieter2627> Maaz: idea add meeting to meetup.com
[18:54:32] <Maaz> Idea recorded: add meeting to meetup.com
[18:54:50] <kulelu88> unlaudable: you cannot have 1 event where linux, BSD, Java and Haskell guys all get along. 
[18:55:06] <Kilos> and google calender pieter2627 
[18:55:06] <superfly> HAHAHAHA
[18:55:06] <unlaudable> heheh perhaps...
[18:55:23] <pieter2627> Kilos: are we not there already
[18:55:37] <pieter2627> and how?
[18:55:46] <Kilos> i have no idea pieter2627 thats pros department
[18:55:48] <unlaudable> but there is some synergy somewhere, the devops/ansible meetup guys had Jez Humble out for one meeting :-)
[18:55:56] <Kilos> he did all mine
[18:56:09] <Kilos> he also does G+ reminders
[18:56:14] <kulelu88> unlaudable: join "Developer User Group", its close enough I think
[18:56:20] <gwood> I regularly have fights with a Julia guy at varsity, I'm mainly a Java guy
[18:56:28] <pieter2627> Maaz: idea add meeting to a public google calendar
[18:56:28] <Maaz> Idea recorded: add meeting to a public google calendar
[18:56:45] <pieter2627> ok, any else for plan anyone?
[18:56:52] <kulelu88> gwood: no person at varsity should be calling themselves a Java guy in 2015 :O
[18:56:55] <pieter2627> s/any/anything/
[18:57:28] <superfly> pieter2627: let's move on.
[18:57:38] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Events
[18:57:38] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:57:49] <gwood> kulelu88: I do when 80% of my project is Java
[18:57:52] <superfly> we've already been here half an hour and we haven't even got past the first half of the agenda
[18:58:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:58:26] <inetpro> ai!
[18:58:31] <superfly> (seriously, every meeting we have those items on the agenda, and every meeting the outcome is the same: nothing)
[18:58:37] <pieter2627> superfly: can you tell us of the google summit today - quickly
[18:58:47] <superfly> pieter2627: Yes
[18:58:59] <unlaudable> is there a person appointed to broadcast meetings and such?
[18:59:22] <Kilos> unlaudable the pro
[18:59:22] <kulelu88> superfly: the only way things can get done in this country is complaining about government over a braai and doing the work on the side
[18:59:29] <unlaudable> 'k
[18:59:50] <superfly> The local Google crew came to introduce us to some of the newer stuff Google has been working on. I was on the "web" track, where we learnt about some new browser standards that Google has been pushing: ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications
[19:00:21] <pieter2627> superfly: interesting
[19:00:27] <superfly> We had a competition to see who could finish both codelab projects first, and I'm sad to say it wasn't me, but it WAS a guy running Ubuntu
[19:00:31] <inetpro> unlaudable: I've been a bit slack lately, sorry
[19:00:46] <pieter2627> lol
[19:00:51] <unlaudable> that sounds awesome
[19:01:00] <magespawn> it is now official, cape town has some cool stuff
[19:01:03] <kulelu88> sounds cool 
[19:01:14] <unlaudable> inetpro, dont beat yourself up :-)
[19:01:17] <pieter2627> also remember SFD is 19 sept
[19:01:26] <superfly> Not much more I can say, but if you want to know about ServiceWorkers and Push Notifications, I am happy to chat afterwards
[19:01:33] <gwood> cape town has some amazing tech meetings
[19:01:34] <inetpro> unlaudable: I don't :-)
[19:01:46] * pieter2627 is kind of sad that it was only in CPT
[19:02:17] <superfly> pieter2627: not only in Cape Town, also in Nigeria and Nairobi, Kenya
[19:02:17] <inetpro> superfly: sounds interesting
[19:02:17] <pieter2627> anything else happened this month or happening in the one to ome?
[19:02:27] <Kilos> hi kapanda 
[19:02:31] <superfly> I have some feedback on SFD
[19:02:46] <kapanda> hi kilos
[19:02:57] <kulelu88> reminder that PyConZA is happening in October in Johannesburg/Wits
[19:03:08] <unlaudable> I only learned today about this... agile africa http://agileafrica.jcse.org.za/
[19:03:10] <Kilos> you want to join our meeting kapanda ?
[19:03:32] <Kilos> just type in Maaz  I am name surname
[19:03:36] <kapanda> yes please 
[19:03:41] <unlaudable> I'm keen to got pycon, not really a programmer though :-)
[19:04:00] <superfly> I spoke with Karl Fischer (kmf) earlier. He says that they have a few speakers lined up... But he would like some Ubuntu people involved for perhaps a talk or something. And they need more sponsorship.
[19:04:06] <inetpro> we have very little time left until the SFD event
[19:04:08] <superfly> This is SFD
[19:04:23] <inetpro> yep kmf is seriously looking for Speakers, Volunteers and donors for the SFD event
[19:04:52] * pieter2627 might be able to attend - can help volunteer then
[19:05:08] <kulelu88> SFD needs to advertise better. tweeting out requests wont help
[19:05:39] <superfly> kulelu88: it's a bit of a grass roots thing, so it needs the community to help out
[19:05:51] <pieter2627> kulelu88: is that more of our jobs (personally have not done anything)
[19:06:07] <kulelu88> superfly: suggest they make a meetup group and I'll assist through that
[19:07:28] <pieter2627> any news on the installFest from CPT inetpro?
[19:07:51] <inetpro> pieter2627: no news unfortunately
[19:07:55] <Kilos> hi clr_ 
[19:08:15] <Kilos> wanna login with Maaz please
[19:08:21] <pieter2627> ouch, moving on then?
[19:08:32] <inetpro> oh, kmf saying the venue for SFD has been paid for 
[19:08:52] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 wb
[19:08:57] <Vince-0> hi
[19:08:58] <inetpro> obviously donors would be welcome to help ease the bill
[19:09:08] <clr_> I have before
[19:09:31] <Kilos> oh my did i miss it
[19:09:34] <Kilos> sorry
[19:09:43] <pieter2627> clr_: kilos means signin for the meeting
[19:09:52] <Kilos> yes ty
[19:09:59] <kapanda> what kind of talks are you looking for at the SFD
[19:10:05] <clr_> hehe pieter2627 , I have before, was just logged out there for a mo
[19:10:06] <pieter2627> `Maaz: I am <first lastname>
[19:10:14] <octoquad> pieter2627, he has at 20:32:09
[19:10:32] <Kilos> ai! us blind peeps
[19:10:45] <kulelu88> kapanda: anything open-source friendly and relevant should do
[19:10:46] <pieter2627> haha, thanks octoquad 
[19:10:51] <octoquad> pieter2627, np
[19:11:03] <pieter2627> ok moving on
[19:11:04] <kulelu88> but talks at the intermediate level would be better
[19:11:23] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[19:11:23] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:12:30] <pieter2627> might have been to fast there, anyway Kilos any news on getting involved with lugs, etc?
[19:13:15] <Kilos> kulelu88 got some of the jozilug guys here but they only stayed one day or less
[19:13:28] <inetpro> anyone who wants to talk in more detail about SFD please talk to us here after the meeting or post an email to the mailing list 
[19:13:41] <Kilos> kulelu88 can you remind them again please
[19:13:47] <pieter2627> kulelu88: any feedback
[19:14:03] <pieter2627> ... that you might have gotten
[19:14:21] <kapanda> I am a member of the jozilug
[19:14:33] <Kilos> pieter2627 i greeted them and welcome them but maybe they were expecting more action here
[19:14:48] <Kilos> oh yes thats right sorry kapanda 
[19:15:15] <Kilos> there was someone else with you as well that day
[19:15:26] <pieter2627> for ubuntu-in-the-wild, my list is at 4 items - have to confirm(get) two after tomorrows meeting
[19:15:53] <kulelu88> kapanda is heavily involved with the LUG, please arrange for LUG members to troll #ubuntu-za @ kapanda 
[19:16:09] <pieter2627> superfly: you mentioned that nikola can create a photo gallery
[19:16:10] <Kilos> hehe
[19:16:19] <superfly> yes
[19:16:44] <superfly> pieter2627: it's pretty easy. you just drop photos into the one folder and Nikola does it for you
[19:16:45] <gwood> What is this talk about ubuntu-in-the-wild?
[19:17:09] <inetpro> gwood: Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728
[19:17:14] <pieter2627> superfly: is captions possible?
[19:17:23] <superfly> pieter2627: I'm not sure
[19:17:46] <kapanda> most lug members like there own flavor of linux, so its hard to get them to support Ubuntu. 
[19:18:10] <pieter2627> gwood: to add a section to the za site which is to show that ubuntu is more popular than one might think
[19:18:11] <kapanda> I use Ubuntu for the Tech Hub am running 
[19:18:26] <pieter2627> that is how i remember it at least
[19:18:27] <Kilos> kapanda we all need to pull together to promote all of linux
[19:18:53] <Kilos> OS is a personal thing
[19:18:53] <gwood> pieter2627: thanks
[19:19:05] <superfly> pieter2627: https://getnikola.com/handbook.html#images-and-galleries
[19:20:44] <pieter2627> superfly: that index.txt file seems to be it for captions
[19:20:57] <superfly> pieter2627: no, it's for general text on the page
[19:21:05] <superfly> above the images
[19:21:05] <gwood> Very fringe, but Ubuntu is the only officially supported OS for some robotics frameworks I've been looking into: http://www.ros.org/ 
[19:21:05] <kapanda> Am all in for Linux
[19:21:59] <pieter2627> superfly: oh, from the demo it seems that a caption is created from the filename
[19:22:45] <unlaudable> nikola is a static site generator?
[19:22:52] <Kilos> yes
[19:22:55] <unlaudable> you seen hugo?
[19:23:08] <pieter2627> kapanda: as i understand it, we want to be more involved to better help new users
[19:23:12] <gwood> for python, looks quite interesting
[19:23:12] <Kilos> our site and the africa sites run nikola
[19:23:24] <unlaudable> static site generator written in go looks pretty good...
[19:23:25] <pieter2627> Kilos: am i correct?
[19:23:28] <unlaudable> Kilos, ah cool
[19:23:43] <Kilos> correct pieter2627 we welcome any linux users
[19:24:17] <inetpro> kapanda: we don't mind if people divert to other distros 
[19:24:17] <inetpro> important is that we catch those who experience Linux for the first time using Ubuntu and make it a smooth experience as far as possible
[19:24:41] <pieter2627> anything else for misc?
[19:25:37] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:25:37] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:25:39] <kapanda> Sure, I also introduce people to Ubuntu first then show them other distros
[19:25:42] <Kilos> we have yum peeps here too hehe
[19:26:15] <Kilos> Maaz pieter2627 ++
[19:26:31] * Kilos votes for pieter2627
[19:26:33] * inetpro votes +1 for pieter2627
[19:26:34] * pieter2627 would like to sit out the next one
[19:26:43] <Kilos> oh my
[19:26:45] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:26:51] <Kilos> you did well pieter2627 
[19:27:07] <pieter2627> just to check others again -can backup
[19:27:09] <Kilos> hard work chairing
[19:27:40] <kulelu88> I vote Kilos 
[19:27:47] * pieter2627 rofl
[19:28:03] <Kilos> lol kulelu88 you tried that before
[19:28:05] <inetpro> anyone else want to volunteer before we vote pieter2627 again?
[19:28:26] <pieter2627> giving 30 sec
[19:28:27] <inetpro> pieter2627: you can do it again man
[19:28:36] <Kilos> pieter2627 you in the groove, it gets easier
[19:28:51] <Kilos> first one is the big one
[19:28:55] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed pieter2627 to chair next meeting
[19:28:55] <Maaz> Agreed: pieter2627 to chair next meeting
[19:29:04] <inetpro> nice!
[19:29:05] <Kilos> imo you did well
[19:29:07] <inetpro> thanks pieter2627
[19:29:13] <pieter2627> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:29:13] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:29:34] <pieter2627> next meeting is at 22 Sept hope you all can join again
[19:29:52] <pieter2627> that date is right inetpro?
[19:30:00] <Kilos> im going in tha day for an op
[19:30:10] <inetpro> pieter2627: looks correct
[19:30:22] <inetpro> every 4th Tuesday of the month
[19:30:28] <Kilos> so you guys have to be greeter bots too
[19:30:32] <pieter2627> Maaz: agreed next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30
[19:30:32] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 @ 20:30
[19:30:56] <pieter2627> thats a wrap thanks for attending everyone
[19:31:00] <inetpro> good timing!
[19:31:07] <pieter2627> Maaz: end meeting

ZATeam/Meetings/20150825 (last edited 2015-08-25 20:08:37 by inetpro)