20110331
March 10th, 2011, 15:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
Agenda
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Action Items from last meeting
- None
Standing Items
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html
- Unity 2D Status
- Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti)
ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
QA Status (GrueMaster)
- Any Other Business
Meeting Outcome
[16:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting [16:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is NCommander. [16:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] * NCommander mutters something about the sun [16:01] <ogra_> its called oracle nowadays, no ? [16:01] <NCommander> ogra_: that pun made my head hurt [16:01] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110331# [16:01] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110331# [16:01] <davidm__> ogra_, true enough, I think they are selling off the sun.com domain [16:01] <NCommander> Need a moment to fix it, the page didn't save last night [16:02] <NCommander> there are no standing items [16:02] <ogra_> wohoo [16:02] <NCommander> er [16:02] <NCommander> action items [16:02] <NCommander> [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <MootBot> New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] <NCommander> and http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html [16:02] <ogra_> no action items, working images .... [16:02] <ogra_> we should all go on holiday immediately ! [16:03] <ogra_> :) [16:03] <NCommander> ogra_: indeed [16:03] <NCommander> Burndown charts look good [16:03] * ogra_ twiddles thumbs waiting for FF [16:03] <NCommander> although I don't know when I got this work item: [16:03] <NCommander> "other-design-n-china Undefined Elliot Murphy, Michael Casadevall: Ensure that it becomes easy to download Ubuntu and updates within China [16:03] <NCommander> " [16:03] <ogra_> FF4 on 512M is really painful [16:03] <janimo> ogra_, what about chromium? [16:04] <NCommander> ogra_: we should ship chromium out of the box, maybe a bug for UDS [16:04] <ogra_> janimo, neon issues i think, SIGILL on startup [16:04] <janimo> ogra_, ah, tegra [16:04] <ogra_> i havent researched yet since i'm not sure its tegra specific [16:04] <rsalveti> :-) [16:04] <highvoltage> any full-featured web browser will be tough on 512MB, it's not a browser issue, it's the data you load with it [16:04] <ogra_> FF3 is fine [16:04] <highvoltage> web pages are fhuge [16:04] <ogra_> actually a lot better than 4 [16:05] <ogra_> swaps a lot less [16:05] <janimo> ogra_, I wonder what FF4 for android does - although those phones may have more than 512M [16:05] <ogra_> so our reputation for beta 2 fully hangs on ricardo :) [16:05] <GrueMaster> I forgot to close out my 1 outstanding item (add headless to iso tracker). Closed now. [16:05] <rsalveti> well, not my nexus s [16:05] <rsalveti> and it runs quite well [16:05] <NCommander> rsalveti: thought you had a samsung galaxy S [16:05] <rsalveti> had :-) [16:06] * NCommander has 512MiB on his Nexus One, and 256 on his G1 and they were both good [16:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah :-) [16:06] <NCommander> rsalveti: so you replaced your phone ... with the same phone? [16:06] <rsalveti> but actually depending on progress by linaro [16:06] <ogra_> anyway, lets move on, there are some kernel bugs we need to talk over [16:06] * janimo is yet to own a phone that knows better than grayscale and have > 2" screen [16:06] <rsalveti> NCommander: yup, but naturally with a newer android version [16:06] <rsalveti> so, move [16:07] <NCommander> [topic] Unity 2D Status [16:07] <MootBot> New Topic: Unity 2D Status [16:07] <ogra_> fine so far, i will get the final code dump from upstream on the 7th [16:07] <ogra_> final freeze is the 10th btw [16:08] <ogra_> kate moved it forward [16:08] <davidm__> Nice, they look to be closing bugs pretty well now [16:08] <ogra_> oh, i had a list even [16:08] * ogra_ digs [16:09] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/unity-2d/+milestone/3.8.2 [16:09] <ogra_> thats it for u-2d [16:09] <ogra_> if you find any additional bugs you want fixed, raise them with upstream please [16:10] <ogra_> move (unless there are questions) [16:11] <NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:11] <MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:11] <rsalveti> Ubuntu-2.6.38-1207.10 finally hit the archive for omap4 [16:11] <ogra_> pgraner gave me a list of bugs from beta teating he wants to have properly adressed ... [16:11] <rsalveti> with display and hdmi audio fixes included [16:11] <ogra_> bug 746133 [16:11] <GrueMaster> Need more fixes in both areas. [16:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 746133 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Video loses sync on omap4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746133 [16:11] <ogra_> bug 746137 [16:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 746137 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Natty) "Page allocation failure on omap4" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746137 [16:12] <rsalveti> yeah, luckily GrueMaster was able to hit display issues with this kernel [16:12] <rsalveti> as nobody had any issues [16:12] <ogra_> he also mentioned bug 651302 but there shouldnt be any kernel stuff to do [16:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 651302 in Ubuntu Natty "No sound in omap (beagle, beagleXM)." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651302 [16:12] <rsalveti> not for beagle [16:12] * ogra_ didnt have a single display issue with headless ;) [16:12] <GrueMaster> Wrong bug [16:12] <rsalveti> the page allocation failure I'm waiting a new test [16:13] <ogra_> well, thats not true, i did [16:13] <rsalveti> that I requested at the bug [16:13] <GrueMaster> bug 746023 [16:13] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 746023 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu) "No sound on omap4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746023 [16:13] <GrueMaster> That one I filed against alsa-lib (UCM). [16:13] <rsalveti> again we should spend some time fixing the audio issues for both boards [16:13] <ogra_> GrueMaster, in any case there shouldnt be any kernel work even for trhat one [16:13] <ogra_> right [16:14] <ogra_> rsalveti, well, for panda its a matter of getting the UCM config file [16:14] <GrueMaster> There shouldn't be kernel work for either board sound issues. [16:14] <ogra_> yeah [16:14] <GrueMaster> Beagle works with minor tweaks in alsamixer. [16:14] <ogra_> we should also get the highmem issue higer on someones todo [16:15] <ogra_> doesnt really feel like anyone looks into it [16:15] <rsalveti> well, current status is that it appears in some boards [16:15] <ogra_> agreen always starts talking about bluetooth if you ask him about highmem :) [16:15] <rsalveti> because he's unable to reproduce it with his board [16:15] <ogra_> yeah [16:16] <ogra_> but everyone else is, no ? [16:16] <rsalveti> so it's possible to be related with the hardware [16:16] <ogra_> his might be broken in a fixing way ;) [16:16] <rsalveti> ogra_: not everyone else, some people from the community are also unable to reproduce it [16:16] <ogra_> ah [16:16] <ogra_> weird [16:17] <rsalveti> yeah [16:17] <NCommander> can I move? [16:17] <ogra_> but losing 256M on the buildds is bad [16:17] <rsalveti> not yet [16:17] <janimo> rsalveti, so I should set panda mem use in boot.scr to 1G if I want to test this? [16:17] <rsalveti> janimo: yes [16:17] <ogra_> for that we should really have some kind of fix or workaround in place [16:17] <rsalveti> it'd be good if everyone could help testing it [16:17] <ogra_> NCommander, action :) [16:18] <rsalveti> and on other topic, robclark published the drm driver for omap [16:18] <ogra_> nice [16:18] <rsalveti> to be used at omap 4 so we can have xrandr at the xserver driver [16:18] <NCommander> [action] janimo to test panda with mem=1G [16:18] <MootBot> ACTION received: janimo to test panda with mem=1G [16:18] <rsalveti> as it also probes for edid, I'm testing the dvi support [16:18] <rsalveti> and porting it to be used by omap 3 as well [16:18] <rsalveti> so we can also have edid parsing and proper resolution setting [16:18] <ogra_> NCommander, s/janimo/everyone with a panda/ [16:18] <davidm__> perhaps we need to send agreen a board that shows the highmem problem [16:19] <janimo> rsalveti, what kind of loads make the highmem issue appear? I mostly do builds [16:19] <ogra_> janimo, builds do [16:19] <rsalveti> current status is the drm driver is working with omap3, but still needs more debugging at the edid parsing for dvi [16:19] <ogra_> ;) [16:19] <rsalveti> janimo: mostly builds [16:19] <rsalveti> janimo: we used to build kernel [16:19] <rsalveti> after 2, 3 builds it fails [16:20] * rsalveti looking for the bug number [16:20] <rsalveti> bug 633227 [16:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 633227 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Natty) "instabilities with highmem activated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633227 [16:21] <rsalveti> any other question for kernel? [16:21] <NCommander> [action] everyone with a panda to test panda with mem=1G [16:21] <MootBot> ACTION received: everyone with a panda to test panda with mem=1G [16:21] * NCommander is mentally lagging, too early [16:21] <rsalveti> not that related but I should be updating the x-loader package soon [16:21] <rsalveti> so we can have es2.2 support [16:22] <ogra_> i dont think mem=1G is the right arg [16:22] <janimo> what is the missing 512M-460M in the first address region is for? Video? [16:22] <rsalveti> ducati [16:22] <ogra_> you need to respect the memory hole for ducati [16:22] <janimo> mem=460M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000 [16:22] <rsalveti> if you're just building, no problem [16:22] <janimo> from the bugreport [16:22] <ogra_> right, [16:22] <rsalveti> you can get everything for you [16:22] <rsalveti> janimo: that would be the args we'd use at the netbook image [16:22] <rsalveti> so we can have everything working [16:23] <rsalveti> but for this test you can simply use 1g [16:23] <ogra_> ah, good [16:23] <janimo> rsalveti, but I can use 1G@0x80000000 on headless? [16:23] <rsalveti> janimo: yup [16:23] <janimo> or with not address at all even? [16:23] <janimo> rsalveti, ok thanks. Will do [16:24] <rsalveti> move? [16:24] <NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:24] <MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:25] <ogra_> just pre-published for beta :) [16:25] <ogra_> nothing else to report ... [16:25] <ogra_> well [16:25] <ogra_> we need the TI icon back and dont have a bug for that yet [16:26] <GrueMaster> Why was it even removed? It could have been left in place with nothing to install. [16:27] <ogra_> GrueMaster, persia insisted it shouldnt live in jasper [16:27] <ogra_> it was one of my items in the jasper rewrite spec [16:28] <ogra_> we have a package for it now, but i need to MIR it and see that i integrate the bits and pieces in jasper again [16:28] <ogra_> (since they live in different places now) [16:30] <NCommander> (can I move?) [16:30] <ogra_> sure [16:30] <GrueMaster> So, what should the bug be filed against? [16:31] <ogra_> GrueMaster, hmm, good question [16:31] <NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:31] <MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:31] <ogra_> ti-omap4-software-channel is the new package [16:32] <GrueMaster> With all of the major changes just before Beta 1 release, a lot of deep testing has to be restarted. Minimal testing was done for the release to ensure no major show-stopper bugs existed. [16:33] <rsalveti> tested omap 3 and omap 4 while doing the drm stuff and they seems fine [16:33] <GrueMaster> I have not had a chance to really deep dive into unity-2d or to see what other kernel issues I can dig up yet due to release testing. [16:33] <rsalveti> besides the audio issues and the display ones you saw [16:34] <GrueMaster> On a good note, banshee played (silently) through the night on my panda. [16:34] <GrueMaster> No crashes. [16:35] <ogra_> well, it did that before on my tegra :P [16:35] <ogra_> we just support the wrong smp HW it seems :) [16:35] <GrueMaster> I don't consider your tegra a valid test due to the ancient kernel & unsupported system. [16:36] <ogra_> system is the same as omap [16:36] <GrueMaster> As I was able to reproduce the crash on my tegra dev platform with a newer kernel. [16:36] <ogra_> but yeah, the kernel is old [16:37] <GrueMaster> That's all I have to report. [16:38] <ogra_> NCommander, ? [16:38] <NCommander> [topic] AOB [16:38] <MootBot> New Topic: AOB [16:39] <ogra_> specs ? [16:39] <ogra_> do we have a wikipage or something to collect them ? [16:39] <rsalveti> for uds? [16:39] <rsalveti> something we should start working on soon [16:39] <ogra_> yes [16:39] <ogra_> at least collect some rough ideas [16:40] <rsalveti> don't think we have a wiki for that yet [16:40] <davidm__> I have a request [16:40] <ogra_> hmm, usually persia sets up that stuff, but i dont think he has time for it atm [16:41] <davidm__> I'd like to see us document our final releases very well, what works, what does not any thing we have found out over the development time [16:41] <davidm__> have a specific web page, more then release notes === davidm__ is now known as davidm [16:42] <davidm> make that wiki page [16:42] <rsalveti> make sense, would be good to have === davidm is now known as Guest93656 [16:42] <Guest93656> persia is having severe connectivity problems and I don't know when that will change [16:42] <ogra_> yeah [16:42] * ogra_ wouldnt expect different [16:42] <GrueMaster> I should be able to start on that next week while I am temporarily layed up. [16:43] <rsalveti> action? [16:43] <ogra_> GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage :) [16:43] <ogra_> NCommander, ^^ [16:43] <GrueMaster> Actually, I was referring to davidm's stuff. [16:44] <ogra_> how do we call the other one ? [16:44] <ogra_> oh, i was getting to that ;) [16:44] <ogra_> NattyKnownIssues ? NattyReleaseStresstested ? [16:44] <Guest93656> I think its specific to each SoC so we need an OMAP 3 Beagle and Beagle xm and an OMAP 4 Panada page [16:44] <GrueMaster> Natty Nigglets [16:45] <NCommander> [topic] GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage [16:45] <MootBot> New Topic: GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage [16:45] <NCommander> er [16:45] <NCommander> [action GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage [16:45] <rsalveti> :-) [16:45] <Guest93656> Natty Image Status [16:45] <ogra_> natty niglets sounds nice ;) [16:45] <NCommander> [action] GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage [16:45] <MootBot> ACTION received: GrueMaster to create OnericIdeas wikipage [16:46] <ogra_> NCommander, [action] everyone, add spec ideas to that wikipage [16:46] <NCommander> [action] everyone to add spec ideas to wikipage [16:46] <MootBot> ACTION received: everyone to add spec ideas to wikipage [16:46] <Guest93656> NCommander, [ACTION] GrueMaster to document released images [16:48] <NCommander> [ACTION] GrueMaster to document released images [16:48] <MootBot> ACTION received: GrueMaster to document released images [16:48] <NCommander> Anything else [16:48] <NCommander> or can I close the meeting? [16:48] <davidm> That was the main thing from me [16:48] <ogra_> nothing here [16:48] <davidm> finally I got my nick back [16:48] <rsalveti> ok by me [16:49] * ogra_ finds it ok too that davidm got his nick back :) [16:49] <NCommander> closing in 3 [16:49] <NCommander> 2 [16:49] <NCommander> 1 [16:49] <NCommander> #endmeeting [16:49] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:49.
Action Items
Weekly Reports
Michael Casadevall (NCommander)
- Mono workaround completed, tested, and deployed
Minutes
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