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19:04 < Flannel> Welcome everyone, to this pre-SCaLE meeting.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/08January27 is our agenda.  Its exclusively taken up by SCaLE issues at the moment.
19:05 < Flannel> from the look of it, we may have to have another dedicated SCaLE meeting next weekend, or sometime the week following, right before SCaLE.  Just as a final time to touch base with everyone.
19:06 < Flannel> But we don't need to worry about that tonight, as it'll be less formal
19:06 < Flannel> So far, our agenda is: SCaLE, and then the issue of IRC channel moving.
19:07 < nhaines> Do we want to go over the IRC channel moving first?
19:07 < Flannel> We probably should.  It ties into SCaLE anyway.
19:07 < cactaur> Yeah, I'm wondering about that. Let me get this out:
19:07 < cactaur> QUOI?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
19:08 < nhaines> cactaur: Freenode has a channel naming policy.  As an Ubuntu-related group, we fall under that policy (as extended by Ubuntu).
19:09 < AlgorithmicContr> Wow, it's 7PM already
19:09 < nhaines> And Ubuntu's name policy for LoCo channels is #ubuntu-nn where nn is the country code for that team.
19:09 < cactaur> Oh, so we should ALL be part of #ubuntu-us?
19:09 < nhaines> Because -us is divided into states, we're #ubuntu-us-ca
19:09 < AlgorithmicContr> pfft policy
19:09 < cactaur> aaaaahhhhhh.....
19:09 < nhaines> Except that we're not.  ;)
19:09 < Flannel> Its not really a freenode thing.  The IRC council (which, I didn't even think was actually existant at the time they came up with the scheme) decided it back in september
19:09 < AlgorithmicContr> except California isn't a country!
19:10 < nhaines> AlgorithmicContr: the geographical indicator is us-ca
19:10 < AlgorithmicContr> although, soon, I hope it will be
19:10 < Flannel> The scheme for states is -us-SS
19:10 < Flannel> so, we'd be #ubuntu-us-ca
19:10 < cactaur> We're the tenth largest economy in the world. We should be an exception!
19:10 < AlgorithmicContr> Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with cactaur!
19:10 < Flannel> Well, personally I feel it happened behind closed doors, as there wasn't really any discussion with the people it affected
19:11 < Flannel> and I agree, -us-ca is stupid, -california makes more sense, and thats why I've been... ignoring it.
19:11 < AlgorithmicContr> but we're just rebellious teens so ignore our ideas nhaines and Flannel
19:11 < Flannel> AlgorithmicContr: I'm with you ;)
19:11 < AlgorithmicContr> Ah!
19:11 < nhaines> Seems I read about it some time in September, but I thought it had been decided further back.
19:11 < Flannel> But, if we're going to be printing cards, depending on the volume, I dont know if we should have -us-ca or -califonia
19:12 < Flannel> nhaines: they had the meeting in september, although, interesting, theres no log of it anywhere.
19:12 < Flannel> I was hoping to find some grandfather rule, but I found nothing at all, either way
19:12 < Flannel> anyway, 
19:13 < nhaines> That's interesting, too.
19:13 < AlgorithmicContr> Flannel: So it never existed! It's only a fabrication of your cognition!
19:13 < Flannel> nhaines: Yeah.  It really seems like a mandate.  Sort of feel like having a teaparty regarding mandates without representation ;)
19:13 < AlgorithmicContr> hehe
19:13 < nhaines> haha
19:14 < Flannel> since -us-SS makes it seem like the states are subteams of the -US team, which we're not
19:14 < Flannel> and other issues like that
19:14 < AlgorithmicContr> well, if anything I don't think we should provide the -us-ca scheme on the cards
19:14 < AlgorithmicContr> if the change occurs, couldn't we just redirect this channel to the newly -ca-us one?
19:14 < nhaines> Well, #ubuntu-us-ca is quite formal.  But it would be a logical name.  That could make us easier to find.
19:14 < AlgorithmicContr> -us-ca*
19:14 < Flannel> Yeah, there'll eb redirects either way
19:15 < Flannel> we currently own both channels, and that won't be going away
19:15  * AlgorithmicContr attempts to join
19:15 < AlgorithmicContr> heh, I have ops.
19:15 < AlgorithmicContr> just kidding
19:15 < Flannel> You didn't even try and join
19:16 < Flannel> Anyway
19:16 < AlgorithmicContr> opps,I jointed -ca-us
19:16 < Flannel> I just wanted to bring that up, regarding the cards that harkonen is working on
19:16 < Flannel> I personally prefer -california greatly over -us-ca
19:17 < Flannel> I dont know how many cards harkonen is planning to make
19:17 < Flannel> was hoping he'd be here tonight.
19:17 < nhaines> Last he responded to me, he told me he wasn't sure how many he was printing either.
19:17 < Flannel> Alright, we can come to a consensus on the matter later
19:18 < Flannel> So, general SCaLE stuff.
19:19 < Flannel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale6x is shaping up nicely.  We've got four computers (Aaron's isn't up there) for demos.  And I'll be bringing mine to do burning on.
19:19 < Flannel> I have our Conference pack from canonical
19:19 < nhaines> And I'll bring my computer with a monitor for presentation/slideshow display.
19:20 < Flannel> I could be bringing one of my junky computers, with a little 480x640 monitor, since that's all we need to verify the CDs as well
19:20 < Flannel> Anyone have any questions or comments or other things to add re SCaLE planning?
19:20 < cactaur> Oh yeah, should I bring speakers?
19:21  * Flannel isn't the one to answer that.
19:21 < nhaines> I need to know who expects to be putting some dedicated time in the booth, so I can provide name badges.
19:21 < cactaur> Eh, why not?
19:21 < AlgorithmicContr> it seems like a lot of people are bring their computers to show off compiz and whatnot
19:21 < AlgorithmicContr> bringing*
19:21 < Flannel> AlgorithmicContr: thats the point
19:22 < AlgorithmicContr> some people don't really care about that
19:22 < Flannel> AlgorithmicContr: What would you prefer?
19:22 < cactaur> A server?
19:22 < AlgorithmicContr> I don't know,I guess people would like to see not just the eye-candy aspect of ubuntu
19:23 < AlgorithmicContr> maybe, things like games
19:23 < AlgorithmicContr> a wine demo of some sort
19:23 < cactaur> Well, that's not EVERYTHING we'll advertise.
19:23 < AlgorithmicContr> just a suggestion
19:24 < cactaur> OH YEAH! That's important.
19:24 < Flannel> AlgorithmicContr: we're just looking for computers capable of doing the eyecandy.  Everything else in Ubuntu will be available (well, wine stuff would require some prep time)
19:25 < nhaines> Welcome, Scunizi.  :)  We're discussing SCaLE plans.
19:25 < Scunizi> howdy.. just saw the email.
19:25 < Flannel> Howdy Scunizi
19:25 < Scunizi> Hi ya..
19:26 < AlgorithmicContr> good to see you could make it Scunizi
19:26 < Scunizi> thanks.:)
19:26 < AlgorithmicContr> yo adaminla
19:26 < adaminla> sorry i'm late.
19:27 < adaminla> what's going on?
19:27 < cactaur> Just discussion SCaLE plans.
19:28 < AlgorithmicContr> your presence is counts, what cactaur said
19:28 < cactaur> Right now, figuring out who's bringing what... and what we should advertise.
19:28 < adaminla> OK. I did some research on banner.
19:29 < adaminla> e-maild results to flannel.
19:29 < Flannel> I got them, for the record.  Even though I wasn't as judicious in replying as I should've been.
19:29 < adaminla> OK.
19:30 < nhaines> While we're discussing that, I completely dropped the ball on t-shirts.
19:30 < adaminla> sign maker said it's a 2 day turnaround.
19:31 < Flannel> Oh, that short?
19:31 < AlgorithmicContr> cactaur: If you don't want to carry around speakers, I could provide.
19:31 < adaminla> yep.
19:32 < cactaur> AlgorithmicContr: That'll be great. Don't feel like bringing a subwoofer.
19:32 < Flannel> adaminla: You sad (from your email): 6x2 color logo, black lettering, $70.00, is that a standard "give us the logo and the letters" or do we get to do more or less our own artwork?
19:32 < AlgorithmicContr> I'm not 100% certain of my potential attendance
19:32 < AlgorithmicContr> cactaur: Heh, I'll bring in decent spare  that I have
19:34 < adaminla> use our own art work. I showed him the logo from qur wiki, said ok. he can do the lettering. do we need the ubuntu lettering/
19:35 < Flannel> adaminla: I only ask because we might want to do more than just the "Ubuntu California", different sizes, etc
19:35 < adaminla> this guy can do what ever we want.
19:35 < Flannel> alright
19:35 < Flannel> thanks for doing that research adaminla
19:36 < adaminla> no problem.
19:37 < AlgorithmicContr> we if we have a network drop, is anyone going to provide cat6 cables?
19:38 < nhaines> It's bring-your-own, I think.
19:38 < AlgorithmicContr> oh.
19:38 < AlgorithmicContr> so it's not some embedded socket?
19:38 < Flannel> I think I've got a couple laying around.  (just a couple)
19:39 < nhaines> Not sure what you mean.  We'll have a router so that'll take up the provided cable.
19:39 < nhaines> Flannel: should the SSID be ubuntu-california or just ubuntu-us-ca?  ;)
19:39 < adaminla> BRB
19:39 < AlgorithmicContr> hahahah
19:39 < Flannel> nhaines: definately the former.
19:40 < nhaines> Gotcha.
19:40 < AlgorithmicContr> nhaines: need an adapter?
19:40 < AlgorithmicContr> for wifi
19:41 < nhaines> I'm not sure I understand the question.  :)  There will be a wireless router.
19:41 < AlgorithmicContr> well
19:41 < AlgorithmicContr> nevermind what am I saying
19:41 < AlgorithmicContr> <_<
19:41 < Flannel> Alright, anyone have anything else "official"-ish for the meeting?
19:42 < Flannel> Yasumoto might!
19:42 < nhaines> I do!
19:42 < Yasumoto> haha, heya guys
19:42 < Yasumoto> no, I'm just here to see what's going on
19:42 < Yasumoto> sorry for being late, I just got back from visiting a friend at Pepperdine ~_~
19:42 < nhaines> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto says "For United States Teams, please use the full state name (#ubuntu-utah for Utah)"
19:43 < adaminla> Back
19:43 < Flannel> nhaines: I'm sure that's just leftover.  But, yes, that used to be the scheme.
19:44 < nhaines> Where is the current practice stated?
19:44 < Flannel> Yasumoto: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53836/
19:45 < Flannel> nhaines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#head-92fbb73bddb4f3630defca54266d85cf52c64b21
19:46 < Flannel> Hahaha
19:46 < Flannel> wow.  So, same page says both ways.
19:46 < Flannel> We'll keep -california for the time being, that's for sure.
19:47 < Flannel> We wont be printing 10000 business cards anyway.  We wont get stuck with them for decades
19:47 < nhaines> True.
19:47 < nhaines> Yeah, I was confused for a moment.  :)
19:48 < nhaines> Flannel: do you think a presentation with audio would be appropriate or do we want to have things silent so we can talk?
19:48 < adaminla> I told the sign maker *ubuntu-california*
19:49 < Flannel> adaminla: We'll get back to you (well, to him, via you) with any specifics
19:49 < adaminla> OK
19:50 < Flannel> nhaines: I dont know.  If we're talking, we can always mute it?
19:50 < nhaines> Probably true.
19:50 < Yasumoto> sweet, thanks Flannel
19:51 < nhaines> Okay then, only thing I need to know other than that is, like I said, people who will be at the booth for more than a few minutes so I can have badges for them.
19:52 < Yasumoto> nhaines: if you wouldn't mind making one up for me, that'd be really sweet
19:52 < nhaines> Yasumoto: you're on the list.  :)
19:52 < Flannel> nhaines: since not everyone's here, we could do it via the ML.  That might be more reliable.
19:52 < Yasumoto> nhaines: awesome, thanks a bunch, I owe you one :)
19:53 < nhaines> Flannel: sounds like a great idea.  Do we know if everyone's on the list?
19:53 < Flannel> nhaines: Hmm.  No, I dont, actually.
19:53 < Flannel> Is anyone here *not* on the mailing list?
19:54 < Flannel> nhaines: I'll put it in the topic too, just in case.
19:54 < nhaines> Excellent.
19:54 < nhaines> Wording on the badges looks good, too?  "Ubuntu California"?
19:55 < Flannel> nhaines: Yeah.  they look good
19:55 < Flannel> Alright, so.  Anyone else have questions/comments/whatever regarding SCaLE and/or our booth?
19:57 < Flannel> So.  I think that's our meeting.  Thanks everyone for contributing.  Feel free to stick around if you have any questions/discussions with anyone else individually (not like you need to be reminded that you can)

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Sunday, January 27th, 2008, 7:00pm (1900) PDT

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