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19:05 < Flannel> Alright, 7:05!  Welcome everyone to our first meeting in June!
19:05 < Flannel> Our agenda for this evening is pretty simple at the moment, if you have anything you'd like to add to it, be sure to speak up at some point:
19:06 < Flannel> 1: NOCCC recap, 2: SGVLUG announcement
19:06 < Flannel> so, I suppose our meeting so far is all about acronyms.  Anyway, anyone have any topics to add for the time being?
19:07 < Yasumoto> I'm good
19:07 < nhaines> We should resolve to get those radio recordings.
19:07 < Yasumoto> nhaines at noccc ftw
19:07 < magitek> yea, awesome presentation
19:07 < Flannel> nhaines: We should.  You want to email Glenn about them?
19:08 < nhaines> Flannel: That's what I get for raising a topic.  :)  Sure, I'll try again.
19:08 < troyready> radip recordings?
19:08 < troyready> frpm noccc?
19:08 < Flannel> troyready: Before the CSULB install thing, nhaines and I did a radio interview with Glenn to promote it
19:09 < Flannel> (that would've been at the end of april)
19:09 < troyready> Got it - I saw pics
19:09 < Flannel> Alright, so, first topic, NOCCC presentation was today
19:10 < Flannel> We had about 50 people in attendance, passed out a number of Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs, and passed out some business cards.
19:11 < sn9> is that an organization that has a gripe with the California Conservation Corps?
19:11 < Flannel> So, expect to see some new faces around here, the ML, and forums, asking questions about Ubuntu and Linux
19:11 < Flannel> sn9: I don't think so?
19:11 < sn9> no-ccc
19:11 < Yasumoto> sn9: north orange county computer club noccc.org
19:11 < sn9> ah
19:11 < magitek> it's an organization whose collective age of its members is in the triple digits
19:12 < danage> ?
19:12 < magitek> actually maybe quadruple, sorry.
19:12 < Flannel> danage: Most of the members are retirees
19:12 < magitek> but seriously, it's really cool. it's the oldest (2nd maybe) computer club in america
19:12 < nhaines> And engineers.
19:12 < symptom> so thats like 2-20 yrlds?
19:12 < Flannel> Nathan gave a great speech about Ubuntu and Linux in general, and we got a lot of good audience questions afterwards.
19:13 < sn9> ten 99-year-olds would still be quadruple digits
19:13 < nhaines> Flannel: and during as well.  :)
19:13 < symptom> sn9, but there were 50 of them there...
19:13 < Flannel> nhaines: In the future, we may want something to pass out to orgs like this, I noticed they all were taking notes.
19:13 < nhaines> There were a lot of very insightful, direct questions.
19:13 < danage> notes!!!
19:13 < Flannel> Just a note sheet thing with some URLS and names and stuff.
19:14 < nhaines> Yes, I wasn't prepared for that, but definitely.
19:14 < Yasumoto> Flannel: that's a really good idea
19:14 < sn9> if they've all been around so long, how is it that they didn't already know the answers? ;)
19:14 < Yasumoto> Flannel: with more info than the business cards and such?
19:15 < danage> sn9: ...
19:15 < magitek> A lot of them were already linux users but really liked ubuntu and are switching
19:15 < Flannel> Yasumoto: Yeah, URLs, Descriptions, DEfinitions, just... general stuff, and then space for them to write (or the back, I guess)
19:15 < Yasumoto> maybe things like some key applications for things
19:15 < sn9> magitek: that's what i would have expected
19:15 < Yasumoto> like nhaines explanation about rhythmbox/firefox/etc
19:15 < Yasumoto> Flannel: i like that idea
19:16 < magitek> Perhaps a general windows to linux list?
19:16 < Yasumoto> magitek: like gopher-style?
19:16 < Flannel> There are plenty of those on the interblags, I'm thinking more Ubuntu/Linux general knowledge
19:16 < magitek> like a faq?
19:17 < Flannel> And really, just a few things at the top of the page, and then just writing area
19:17 < magitek> heck, even just the presentation slide printouts with note space on the side would work
19:17 < sn9> there already is a general windows-to-linux list on the wiki
19:17 < Flannel> So when we gave them a URL, they'd already have it.
19:18 < nhaines> In hindsight, it was probably mean to throw shipit.ubuntu.com at them at the very end like that. :)
19:18 < Flannel> Well, and so they wouldn't have to squint at our business cards.
19:18 < sn9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
19:19 < magitek> That one guy was so amazed at the lack of need for defrag for ext
19:19 < sn9> linked from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu
19:20 < nhaines> Okay, I *think* I can guarantee that http://www.nhaines.com/ubuntu/california/presentations/noccc-presentation.odp will not change.
19:20 < nhaines> Yeah, when I said defragmentation wasn't necessary his jaw dropped.
19:20 < magitek> did that gnucash guy ever find you?
19:20 < Yasumoto> nhaines: haha, for sure :)
19:20 < Yasumoto> brb
19:21 < nhaines> magitek: definitely.
19:21 < Flannel> Anyone else have any other comments about today?
19:21 < magitek> just that yasumoto and i will be going back for their linux sig and continue to help them out i think
19:21 < nhaines> Flannel: I want to thank you for taking the reigns at the computer for a bit.
19:22 < Flannel> nhaines: Sooner or later I'll get mine working with a Wiimote
19:22 < nhaines> Flannel: and I also want to thank you for taking the last half of questions on stage so that I could demo some apps behind you.
19:22 < Flannel> Ah right, after the presentation, I fielded questions as nhaines played with Ubuntu behind me.
19:22  * nhaines no longer knows why he was trying to use his phone over bluetooth instead of his Wiimote.
19:22 < Flannel> Got some oohs and aaahs
19:22 < nhaines> Michael's picture got the aaahs.  :)
19:23 < nhaines> So, uh, thanks to ecubuntu for that picture I guess.
19:23 < sn9> shouldn't be too hard to put wiimote support into LIRC
19:23 < Flannel> I think its already been done, to be honest
19:23 < nhaines> Oh right, some members asked us back in a year or so to give updates.
19:24 < Flannel> Right, so in a year, someone remind someone ;)
19:24 < magitek> should we edit it onto the wiki?
19:24 < nhaines> So all in all, we could say that this was a triumph.
19:24 < Flannel> magitek: It'll go into the meeting summary
19:24 < nhaines> I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.
19:25 < nhaines> It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
19:25 < Flannel> They really were a great audience.
19:25 < sn9> yet another linux mission accomplished: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.video4linux/38323
19:25 < Flannel> Alright, next topic is SGVLUG.  San Gabriel Valley LUG.
19:26 < magitek> ooh, where's it at? I'm from that area originally
19:26 < Flannel> They want us to come give a presentation about Ubuntu (since they know what Linux is), and present some cool new features.
19:26 < Flannel> The first month they have open is August, and tentatively we're scheduled for then (I have yet to hear back on confirmation of the date)
19:27 < Flannel> They meet the Second Thursday of the month.  At... I don't know.  check the website.
19:27 < sn9> they know what linux is, but they don't know what ubuntu is?
19:27 < troyready> So, the 14th.
19:28 < Flannel> sn9: well, they're a LUG, so its safe to assume we don't have to explain Linux.  But, we shouldn't assume they know Ubuntu.  Especially if they think they do, but have misconceptions.
19:28 < Flannel> troyready: right.
19:28 < magitek> they're probably like the noccc guys, they've heard of it, but dont really know why its different from other distros
19:28 < Flannel> But, August is just tentative.  We'll know more (and more about the audience) as time goes on.
19:28 < nhaines> Or else they want to take a day to focus on Ubuntu and its new features.
19:28 < nhaines> Naturally, we're the resource that is expert on Ubuntu, so it only makes sense to ask us for more info.
19:29 < sn9> might be good to compare and contrast side-by-side laptops, one with ubuntu, and one with some other distro
19:29 < Flannel> sn9: we're not really out to make enemies
19:29 < sn9> it can be a way to celebrate distro diversity
19:29 < Flannel> Well, its true, but if we do that, we need to tread very lightly.
19:29 < sn9> especially if the other laptop is showcased by someone really big on that distro
19:30 < troyready> As to not end up like the Apple people.
19:30 < nhaines> Better to showcase Ubuntu's strengths.
19:30 < sn9> troyready: apple people have nothing on OS/2 people
19:31 < Flannel> Since, at the end of the day, any Linux is better than no Linux.  And Ubuntu doesn't fit everyone's needs.
19:31 < troyready> agreed.
19:31 < sn9> right -- one size fits most
19:32 < sn9> that's the phrase i've always used to describe ubuntu as a distro
19:32 < Flannel> So, that's coming up in a few months.  And that, I believe, is the end of our agenda so far.
19:32 < Flannel> Anyone else have any other topics for today?
19:32 < nhaines> CD sleeves?
19:33 < Flannel> Oh, sure.
19:33 < Flannel> We're hoping to make CD sleeves so we don't have to write furiously during installfests.
19:34 < Flannel> These would be origami sleeves, you print on an 8.5x11 piece of paper, and then the CDs get slid inside.
19:35 < nhaines> They're pretty neat.
19:35 < Flannel> I've got the folding dimensions and stuff down, and I've got a template... well, not handy.  It'll be made available.  And we're looking for designs for putting all the stuff on it.
19:35 < Flannel> they are pretty neat.  And if we do them right, we'll be able to give them to all the LoCos to use, and make everyone look a lot more professional than sharpie-on-CDs
19:36 < sn9> maybe get a huge sheet of tyvek?
19:36 < Flannel> That's expensive ;)
19:36 < Flannel> paper, not so much.
19:37 < Flannel> Anyway, we'll be asking anyone and everyone who wants to come up with their own design, both for artwork, and layout of general information and stuff.
19:37 < Flannel> Sort of like what we did with the LoCo Logo, only I imagine that this will end up being a lot more collaborative for the final product.
19:37 < Flannel> So, get crazy, get creative, and spread the word.
19:38 < Flannel> The templates, blank and otherwise, will be going up... somewhere (probably the wiki), for you to all grab and play with.  Keep your eyes on the list.
19:38 < Flannel> for the URL(s)
19:38 < Flannel> We have no deadline, and this won't be restricted to Ubuntu California people either.  We're just looking for the best design we can get.
19:38 < nhaines> I'll make the photos Yasumoto took of the NOCCC event available on Flickr, so watch the mailing list and Planet Ubuntu.
19:39 < sn9> maybe start with the shipit designs?
19:39 < nhaines> The shipit designs don't match the origami design.
19:40 < Flannel> sn9: If you'd like, sure.  There has to be a bit more information on them, since the sleeves will be for [any flavor] and [any version]
19:40 < Flannel> And, yeah, not as much surface area.
19:40 < sn9> mail merge...
19:40 < magitek> the sleeve should have a url to the loco on it saying "for help, go to" etc...
19:40 < Flannel> It'll be more apparent when you see... actually.  If you're interested, hang around after the meeting, I'll throw some crappy prototypesup
19:41 < Flannel> I think we're done though.  Anyone else have any more business?
19:41 < nhaines> Em, can I mention that I'm an Ubuntu member now?
19:41 < Flannel> Oh, right,
19:41 < nhaines> Since I made the newletter.  :)
19:41 < Flannel> Last... thursday?
19:41 < sn9> is that new?
19:41 < nhaines> Wednesday.
19:41 < Flannel> nhaines: became an official Ubuntu Member
19:41 < magitek> congratulations!
19:42 < troyready> woot woot
19:42 < Flannel> Joining the ranks of... me... and Ju.  And, maybe a few others.
19:42 < sn9> i don't think anybody else here is
19:43 < Flannel> Alright.  Thank you all for coming, next meeting, two weeks, 7pm.  Which... is June 15.

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