For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.
- Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
- Alberto Milone (tseliot)
Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
- Bryce Harrington (bryce)
- Chris Cheney (ccheney)
- Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)
- Didier Roche (didrocks)
- Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
- Martin Pitt (pitti)
- Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
- Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
- Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)
- Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF)
- Outstanding actions from last meetingu
- Partner Update
- Kubuntu Update
- Release Bugs/Release Status
- Stable update bugs?
- Blueprint list
- New team member next week
- Review activity reports
- Any other business
- u1music store is in public beta
- OLS has 3 FFE pending:
[Freeze Exception] ubuntuone-client: Syncdaemon needs to auto-start/connect in Lucid: [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534707
[Freeze Exception] ubuntuone-client: Impossible to infer status of file syncing jobs: [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/526084
Status text field should be disabled if no broadcast accounts have been set up: [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520932
- Should have a desktopcouch release that fixes a bunch of the crasher bugs in time for beta-2
new logo decided http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-new-logo.png needs Design Team to tidy up
- KDE 4.4.2 packaged and uploaded to lucid, compiling away now
- KOffice 2.1.2 packaged and uploaded
http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 milestoned bugs down to 16
- two high priority bugs need some more investigation but will probably be after beta 2, akonadi being broken on upgrades and hal not mounting disks
Stable Update Bugs
seb128 led discussion on how to choose SRU bugs for 10.04.1. Decision was:
- After Final Freeze (April 15th) we will review list of targeted bugs
- Bugs that are targeted, but no appropriate for SRU will be closed at this time
- Bugs for an SRU will stay targeted and milestoned for an SRU
Work items are going to plan, and high risk ones are complete: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html
RC bugs have been reviewed, and appear on track: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
- Two worrying bugs on xorg/kernel
- Many crashes being reported at "../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed." These bugs to be duped.
Total xorg related bug reports are down: http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Graphs/totals.svg
Massive xorg triaging is paying off, untriaged bug reports are down despite incoming rates: http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/Reports/ubuntu-x-swat/totals-lucid-workqueue.svg
- Time to start thinking about blueprints
rickspencer3 put a starter list here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/BlueprintList
- Feel free to add to this list
New Team Member Next Week
- Hi Nafai
Alberto Milone (tseliot)
LP: #548751 nvidia-common: call "dpkg-trigger gmenucache || true" after switching to other drivers
- LP: #533970 nvidia-common reintroduce config file for kernel hooks
- Simplify X-Kit's logic to detect if the driver is in use (required by Jockey)
Add support for new InputDevice section to XKIT
- LP: #545992 Can't install fglrx-kernel-source, conflict with fglrx
- LP: #540177 in kdebase-workspace "KDM needs plymouth transition patch
- LP: #547066 Jockey doesn't show enabled nvidia drivers as such
- LP: #496225 Jockey cannot install fglrx driver
- LP: #539196 nvidia-settings X display configuration window doesn't work on nvidia-173 and nvidia-96
Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
Bryce Harrington (bryce)
- X Stabilization
- Identify bug fixes besides Xv in 2.10 git tree
- Backport the Xv patches from 2.10 to intel 2.9.1 (upload pending)
- Fix crash when all glyphs of a given depth are freed
- Write up and report status on X stabilization work
- Update X.org stabilization plan at X/Projects
- Look for lp bugs with drmCheckModesettingSupported fails
- Switch off apport freeze hook for -intel as per decision last meeting
- Upstream #538377 - HDMI turns off intermittently
- Upstream #541501 - external screen display shows shivering
- Upstream #542660 - -ati fails to boot on iMac (core i5)
- Upstream #545096 - intermitent screen corruption
- Upstream #544525 - dual monitor not working on rv380
- Packaging work
- Assist getting xserver 1.7.6 merged
- Merge xkeyboard-config 1.8
- Cherrypick post-1.8 patches from xkeyboard-config git tree
- Merge Arne's xkeyboard-config patches
- fakesync xf86-input-evtouch
- Other Bug Work
- Fix security vulnerability with XAA and compositing (LP: #551193)
- Help ccheney troubleshoot openoffice/inkscape bug
- Investigate if the Repeat execbuffer patch is included
- rename fix-titles.py to process-title-fixing.py
- Make milestone report include gravity and time since last comment
- Move arsenal_lib.py to top level and replace instances in contrib and scripts with symlinks
- Sketch out thoughts on refactoring process-new-bugs.py to make it easier to use beyond X.org
- Move bug.has_tag()-based skipping into arsenal_lib.py
- Fix cron on blackwold to actually generate the versions_current.html page - is cron actually running?
- Identify if tagging an incomplete bug makes it an incomplete w/ response bug
- Implement routine for identifying if launchpad is simply down temporarily when 500/502/504 errors throw exceptions
- UDS Planning
- Capture thinking about what we want to do for the -intel freeze hook in Lucid+1 into blueprint wiki
- Plan out UDS X sessions for RAOF
- Debugging with KMS
- Investigate how to handle quirking with KMS
- Identify if there are any mechanisms to make kernel test quirks manually
- Review drm_edid.c code in the kernel to learn how quirking works
Review and improve https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewCodeReviews
Review and improve https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReviewersTeam/GettingInvolved
- Off Friday (went to Seattle for the weekend)
Chris Cheney (ccheney)
- Uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.2.0-4ubuntu2
- Fixed 3 remaining RC bugs, whee!
- Uploaded openclipart 0.18+dfsg-9ubuntu1
- Fixed bug allowing installation with OOo 3.2.0
- Working with mvo on OOo karmic-lucid upgrade bug
- Working on epiphany-browser gtkentry backport
Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF)
- Picked out two bugfixes from upstream nouveau and forwarded them to kernel team list. Still need to be sent to stable kernel list.
An upstream comment on bug #540632 pointed to a kernel commit fixing a class of EDID bugs. Verified with reporter that the commit fixed their problem, and forwarded bug & commit to kernel team.
- Investigated helping to automate mmiotrace gathering for users now that mmiotrace is enabled in the main kernel images. I've got a simple set of scripts which I'll be testing on bug reporters this week
- Fixed VESA driver to fail to load when a kernel modesetting driver is providing a framebuffer. Patch is upstream, and looks like it'll be acceptable.
- Found new bugs where vga16fb being loaded appears to blame. Discussed with Chase Douglas in #ubuntu-kernel, who came up with a patch to prevent vga16fb from loading when a kms driver is already loaded. I'm monitoring further bugs - I think there are still some vga16fb-caused bugs lurking, particularly with multiple gpus.
- This broke with gnome-keyring-daemon 2.30 removing the socket interface. Reimplemented the socket calls using libgnome-keyring instead.
- This seems to have fixed everything but f-spot. F-Spot might be bundling a broken copy of gnome-keyring-sharp.
Didier Roche (didrocks)
- Finished the work on "disable startup sound in gdmsetup". Now possible to change gconf keys in gdm
- Test and finish clutter 1.2 transition and enabling introspection in various components: gtk, clutter, clutter-gtk, atk, pango
- Don't show "as another user" in metacity (design required)
- gnome-control-center: themes now provides a prefered button layout option. This enable to avoid breaking all themes with our default and handle custom user settings as well.
- UNE related:
- bug triaging
- merge some contributor patches. Will release new version in the week
- ping about pushing the new logo back
- discuss with dx team which agree to fix 2 bugs which will take forever for me to fix "if they have time"
- GNOME updates: nautilus-action, alcarte, zenity, gnome-applets, gtk-doc, anjuta, devhelp, vinagre, gucharmap, empathy, gnome-control-center, gnome-themes, gtk2-engines, gnome-menus, gnome-session, gedit-plugins, deskbar-applets, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-screensaver
- New quickly release, got FFe an triaging Quickly related bugs!
- Provide some guidance to GSoC students and write the GSoC applications
Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
- Porting work for gwibber to use the keyring, until I hit the keyring CPU load bug 530605
- Uploaded fix for desktopcouch that improves gwibber startup time considerably
- Released Gwibber 2.29.93 with a ton of bug fixes and i18n love
- DX Releases
Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
Martin Pitt (pitti)
- desktop-lucid-powermanagement-tweaks: One WI left for disabling an unused fingerprint reader; will try to get to that this week - All others implemented
- Bug fixing: cups, libatasmart, gdm, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, gnome-keyring, gnome-menus, gnome-power-manager, gvfs, jockey, langack-locales, media-player-info, nut, python-distutils-extra, sudo, udev, upower, usbmuxd
- New versions: gnome-disk-utility, gnome-power-manager, gvfs
- Desktop seed cleanup, removed a few unmaintained packages (nautilus-cd-burner, ekiga, deskbar-applet)
- Set up mumble, working great
- Tested CD drive locking with cdrkit/growisofs
- Tested u1 music store
- Tried in vain to unbreak apport testsuite for staging.lp.net
- tzdata update for stables
- Some Apport retracer maintenance
- TB meeting
- language-selector, bluez
Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)
Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)
- Fixed the gnome-terminal profile upgrade issue (LP: #532511)
- Fixed a bug in gnome-power-manager where it dimmed the screen from an inactive session
- Fixed a gnome-settings-daemon bug where the volume change event sounds weren't working, due to our notify-osd patch (LP: #538761)
- Fixed a gnome-desktop bug causing g-s-d to print GLib-Critical messages in the console at startup (LP: #384439)
- Helped with the gnome-settings-daemon 2.30 update to get the notify-osd patch working again
- Fixed some packages with unmet dependencies since I remove python-gnome2-extras earlier this cycle
- Sponsoring: conkeror, gnome-chemistry-tools, galeon, bindwood
- xulrunner-1.9.2 transition:
- DONE: conkeror, gnome-chemistry-tools, galeon (thanks to Micah Gersten)
- There are a couple that ftbfs due to needing updated xulrunner with working .pc file (gtk-vnc, gnome-chemistry-tools)
- packagekit is waiting on updated xulrunner 188.8.131.52 (due today)
- General Mozilla:
- NSPR 4.8.4 update
- Worked on NSS 3.12.6 update. This caused a bit of grief as it broke Evolution, so I had to spend some time investigating that. It's fixed now and will be uploaded today (which will open the gates for xulrunner 184.108.40.206 and FF 3.6.2)
- Got the cairo LCD filter patch working in FF 3.6.2 (thanks to mdeslaur for helping too) (LP: #512615)
- Started 3.0/3.5/1.9/1.9.1 security updates
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
- desktop updates: gtkmm glib gtk ido indicator-me telepathy-butterfly gtksourceview pygtksourceview rhythmbox libgnomekbd glib nautilus glibmm gtkmm pango nautilus-sendto totem-pl-parser totem gnome-bluetooth gedit gnome-media file-roller evince eog cheese brasero libwnck tomboy libgweather gnome-panel librsvg libbonoboui libbonobo gconf libsoup
- changed gnome-menus cache update code to not translate icon names
- discussed string changes in lucid and revert those in some sources
- did a gtk-murrine snapshot to lucid on artwork team request
- some other round of rhythmbox git fixes backport
- did a rhythmbox git snapshot since it's easier to backport most commits
- updated glib to ship python debug macros too
- updated shared-mime-info translations from rosetta to lucid
- backported a potential fixes for gnome-keyring issue but it's not working
- restored nautilus change not commit to vcs and dropped with the update
- looked to lot of bugs, tracked some issues, got debug informations
- shared-mime-info enchant gtk2-engines-murrine gnome-panel indicator-sound libindicator indicator-application ubuntu-mono indicator-application gwibber
Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)
system-config-printer: Fixed several bugs: Do not auto-create a new queue if a printer is only detected by the "usb" CUPS backend and there is already a queue set up with the "hp" backend or vice versa, do also not auto-create new queues if there exists already a queue whose URI references to the detected printer only by the /dev/usb/lp? device file (non-standard CUPS backends), do not let the firewall warning dialog pop up (LP: #534526), applied upstream patches to fix several tracebacks in the new asynchronous requests for device and driver info (LP: #520466), silince logged error message due to the PrinterDriverInstaller not present (LP: #530218), added dependency on avahi-utils (LP: #545737), when generating HPLIP URIs for network printers, generate the newer ones based on DNS-SD host names, to keep printers working when IPs change (LP: #545737), let discovered network printer connections via the "dnssd" CUPS backend be shown before connections via "socket", "lpd", or "ipp" as they are proof against chaning IPs, added a missing "import gobject" to one of the Python files. Still waiting for new Ubuntu logo for the printer test pages (LP: #542975).
- python-cups: Updated to get in a crash bug fix (LP: #545755).
- foomatic-db: Fixed database entries which got broken on the switchover of the server to MySQL, especially affecting the "hl1250" driver (PCL-5e driver for Brother printers, LP: #541690).
- hplip: Made simple-scan the deafult scanning frontend (LP: #539015), applied a patch to eliminate a segfault when closing the tray applet (LP: #546816), tried out a patch for Application Indicator support, but it does not work yet (LP: #497877).
- foo2zjs: Let automatic upload of the firmware file into the printer by UDEV be delayed for 3 seconds, so that it does not interfere with other UDEV actions like automatic queue setup or re-enabling a disabled queue (LP: #543177).
- Answered and triaged printing-related bug reports.
[17:32] <tkamppeter> hi
[17:32] <pitti> right
[17:32] <chrisccoulson> i think so ;)
[17:32] * kenvandine waves
[17:32] <didrocks> hey
[17:32] <rickspencer3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-03-30<<BR>> [17:32] <ArneGoetje> o/
[17:32] <Riddell> afternoon
[17:32] <kenvandine> i might need to duck out at some point
[17:32] * tseliot waves
[17:32] <seb128> hey
[17:32] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, ack
[17:33] <rickspencer3> shall we start with kenvandine and partner update?
[17:33] <kenvandine> ok
[17:33] <kenvandine> OLS has a couple FFE still in the pipe, i think they are expected to land today if approved
[17:34] <kenvandine> i haven't looked at the status today, they are on the wiki
[17:34] <kenvandine> and there was a request for a UIF exception of u1 client, not sure if that will happen or not
[17:34] <kenvandine> music store beta is going well, and there will be libu1 and rb plugin bug fix releases today'ish
[17:35] <kenvandine> DX seems pretty on track, nothing major coming
[17:35] <kenvandine> i think that is it
[17:35] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, I've seen a few UI tweaks the last few days from Dx
[17:35] <rickspencer3> is that about done, or are there more changes to expect?
[17:35] <kenvandine> i think that was it
[17:35] <kenvandine> which was mostly just reverting the strings back, i think
[17:35] <kenvandine> and there is the screensaver thing which we patched
[17:35] <seb128> the indicator-message strings change too
[17:36] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, little pips next to status in Me Menu for instance
[17:36] <seb128> to say "configuring..." now
[17:36] <kenvandine> seb128, yeah, that isn't changing again though right?
[17:36] <seb128> before starting the application for the first ime
[17:36] <seb128> no, but it's new from this week
[17:36] * kenvandine still thinks that work flow is a little confusing
[17:36] <seb128> or previous week now rather
[17:36] <kenvandine> if you had been running it already
[17:36] <kenvandine> but i guess a short hump to get over
[17:36] <seb128> right, I was a bit surprised to see that landing now
[17:36] <seb128> especially that the logic is wrong
[17:37] <seb128> anyway not a meeting subject
[17:37] <kenvandine> ok, moving on
[17:37] * kenvandine hands mic back
[17:37] * rickspencer3 hands mic to Riddel
[17:37] <rickspencer3> Riddell, Kubuntu update?
[17:37] <Riddell> * new logo decided http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-new-logo.png needs Design Team to tidy up
[17:37] <Riddell> * KDE 4.4.2 packaged and uploaded to lucid, compiling away now
[17:37] <Riddell> * KOffice 2.1.2 packaged and uploaded
[17:37] <Riddell> * http://tinyurl.com/yjybcx9 milestoned bugs down to 16
[17:38] <rickspencer3> yeah!
[17:38] <rickspencer3> Riddell, can I just say that you are doing an awesome job with Kubuntu and Kubuntu team!
[17:38] <rickspencer3> thanks much
[17:38] <Riddell> two high priority bugs, akonadi being broken on upgrades and hal not mounting disks
[17:38] <Riddell> both need some more investigation but will probably be after beta 2
[17:39] <Riddell> why thank you rickspencer3
[17:39] <pitti> I followed up to the hal one, but I don't understand the problem yet
[17:39] <pitti> I had one suspicion, but that wasn't it
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> kubuntu still uses hal for mounting?
[17:39] <Riddell> yes
[17:39] <pitti> hal doesn't require any privileges for mounting internal drives these days
[17:40] <pitti> but at least in karmic kde actually used a fancy kdesu wrapper, AFAIR
[17:40] <rickspencer3> moving on?
[17:40] <rickspencer3> oops, sorry, didn't mean to interupt
[17:40] <Riddell> rickspencer3: yes we'll discuss later
[17:40] <rickspencer3> ok
[17:41] <rickspencer3> seb128 brought up the next topic, related to bugs for 10.04 stable updates
[17:41] <rickspencer3> seb128, did I get that right?
[17:41] <seb128> yes
[17:41] <seb128> we have a list of rc bugs for lucid now
[17:41] <seb128> but I'm wondering if we want to start building a list of bugs we want to fix in lucid updates if not in lucid
[17:41] <seb128> and how we build this list
[17:41] <pitti> wouldn't that be the same list, by and large?
[17:41] <seb128> and how much we want to have on it
[17:42] <pitti> i. e. every bug which is targetted to lucid becomes an SRU target after release
[17:42] <seb128> pitti, well discussion from yesterday hint that rickspencer3 want the > High list driven to 0 quickly
[17:42] <pitti> well, "potential" target
[17:42] <seb128> so where do we put the "lucid update" bugs
[17:42] <pitti> I agree, because those are release blockers
[17:42] <seb128> I think we have too many mediums
[17:42] <seb128> they don't all quality for it
[17:42] <seb128> qualify
[17:42] <chrisccoulson> i thought release blockers were "high" and milestoned too?
[17:43] <pitti> seb128: then we can wontfix them for lucid post-release
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> can we not change the milestone for ones we want to SRU to "lucid-updates"?
[17:43] <pitti> seb128: for the "potential" side, I think we should go over the list around release time and wontfix the ones which aren't appropriate for SRU
[17:43] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm fine with that, I just want to agree on a common way to mark those
[17:43] <pitti> chrisccoulson: YES WE CAN!
[17:43] <pitti> *cough* :)
[17:43] <seb128> I don't like the wontfixing
[17:43] <pitti> indeed, I think that's an appropriate milestone
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> that's ok then :)
[17:44] <seb128> users tend to take that a slap in the face
[17:44] <pitti> but bugs which aren't SRU targets are better "wontfix"ed after release
[17:44] <seb128> and get angry and start arguing
[17:44] <rickspencer3> seb128, well, you only won't fix the bug task
[17:44] <rickspencer3> not the whole bug
[17:44] <pitti> we won't "wontfix" the bug, just the lucid target
[17:44] <seb128> rickspencer3, we don't have lucid+1 in launchpad now
[17:44] <seb128> so wontfixing == closing
[17:45] <seb128> we can't open a lucid+1 task
[17:45] <rickspencer3> can we milestone it "later" for now?
[17:45] <seb128> pitti, well that's equivalent
[17:45] <pitti> seb128: wontfix after release -> not close
[17:45] <seb128> pitti, what task stay open?
[17:45] <ArneGoetje> how about changing the milestone to 'later'?
[17:45] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - i think if you "won't fix" all of the targetted tasks, then launchpad automatically creates an untargetted task (which you can keep open)
[17:45] <seb128> pitti, right, "after release"
[17:45] <pitti> seb128: well, it works before the release as well (LP will create a "floating" task)
[17:46] <seb128> oh ok, I didn't try that recently
[17:46] <seb128> it used to not work
[17:46] <pitti> but I was saying that we should do it around release time, becuase before that we can still potentially fix them
[17:46] <pitti> seb128: it works fine
[17:46] <seb128> good
[17:46] <seb128> so seems people agree on not changing anything
[17:46] <rickspencer3> seb128, so what do you think of pitti's proposal that we do this after final freeze?
[17:47] <seb128> and revisit our target of opportunity list after lucid hard freeze
[17:47] <rickspencer3> rather try to fix the ones we can between now and then?
[17:47] <seb128> and close or milestone to .1?
[17:47] <rickspencer3> I'm not too worries about specifically how we adjust the bug task properties, so much as:
[17:47] <rickspencer3> 1. when do we start building the list
[17:48] <rickspencer3> 2. what is the logic for what goes into such a list
[17:48] <rickspencer3> seb128, thoughts about those questions?
[17:48] <seb128> well, seems 1. is "we already have it"
[17:48] <seb128> it's our "100 bugs"
[17:48] <seb128> or whatever we call those target or opportunity list
[17:48] <seb128> ie all the team assigned with lucid tasks < high
[17:48] <rickspencer3> interesting
[17:49] <seb128> well that's what I got from this discussion
[17:49] <seb128> pitti, ^ right?
[17:49] <rickspencer3> so basically, if it's targeted to Lucid, we are committed to fixing it in *some* version of 10.04
[17:49] <seb128> so just keep adding things there
[17:49] <pitti> seb128: correct
[17:49] <seb128> and triage the list at lucid time
[17:49] <seb128> close the things we will not change in lucid
[17:49] <seb128> and milestone the ones we want to sru for .1
[17:49] <seb128> rickspencer3, well, we will revisit the list at lucid hard freeze time
[17:49] <seb128> and wontfix those we drop
[17:49] <rickspencer3> ok
[17:49] <rickspencer3> makes sense to me
[17:49] <pitti> sounds like a plan to me
[17:49] <seb128> works for everybody?
[17:50] <seb128> ok good
[17:50] <seb128> rickspencer3, I think we have an agreement there
[17:50] <rickspencer3> kewl
[17:50] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[17:51] <rickspencer3> ok, so next topic is blueprints for 10.10
[17:51] <rickspencer3> I'm not setting any deadline yet, but I know some folks are starting to think about this
[17:51] <rickspencer3> so I started an informal list here:
[17:51] <rickspencer3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/BlueprintList<<BR>> [17:52] <rickspencer3> I put on topics that have come out of conversations I've already had with folks, some community, but mostly other Canonical teams
[17:52] <rickspencer3> If you want to, you can feel free to use this as a scratch pad too
[17:53] <rickspencer3> but also, thought you might want to see what I am thinking about as well
[17:53] <rickspencer3> I know that bryceh already has a tight list of blueprints and sessions that he wants to do with RAOF for xorg
[17:53] <rickspencer3> so that's that topic, unless there are questions
[17:54] * didrocks will add his note from his thought too :)
[17:54] <rickspencer3> k
[17:55] <rickspencer3> so next is release status
[17:55] * rickspencer3 hands mic to pitti
[17:55] <pitti> so, first a look at http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html<<BR>> [17:55] <pitti> seems we are well within the plan
[17:55] <pitti> and the remaining bits don't look scary any more
[17:55] <pitti> good job!
[17:55] <kenvandine> :)
[17:55] <pitti> which extends to the RC bug list
[17:55] <pitti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus<<BR>> [17:56] <pitti> (RC bug list updated yesterday)
[17:56] <pitti> I already caught up with chrisccoulson about his bugs, and they seem on track
[17:56] <pitti> the ones that worry me now are bug 507148 and bug 491210 from the X.org/kernel side
[17:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 507148 in linux "[lucid] desktop runs out of video memory on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507148<<BR>> [17:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 491210 in linux "[i865G] Monitor Resolution limited to 800x600" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491210<<BR>> [17:56] <pitti> they are both in kernel land for now, but bryceh, do you happen to know whether there's hope for them?
[17:57] <pitti> chrisccoulson: do you know if bug 447431 is still relevant?
[17:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 447431 in gnome-desktop "gnome-settings-daemon dies with BadMatch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447431<<BR>> [17:57] <pitti> other than those three, I'm fairly impressed with our progress, good work team!
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> pitti - yes, i'm going to get back to that bug this week
[17:58] <seb128> we get a lot of crashes "../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed."
[17:58] <seb128> in random softwares
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i just saw one like that reported against firefox
[17:58] <seb128> does anybody known if that's an issue in the xorg stack?
[17:58] <pitti> is there a bug for it which should be on the RC radar?
[17:59] <seb128> that's what I'm asking there
[17:59] <seb128> I get a crash every day at least on GNOME components with the "../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed." error in the title
[17:59] <seb128> but it's never in the same softwares
[17:59] <tseliot> tjaalton: does it ring a bell?
[17:59] <chrisccoulson> pitti / seb128 - bug 507062
[17:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 507062 in libxcb "synaptic assert failure: synaptic: ../../src/xcb_io.c:385: _XAllocID: Assertion `ret != inval_id' failed." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507062<<BR>> [17:59] <chrisccoulson> but that was already closed as fixed
[18:00] <seb128> how do we deal with all the duplicates?
[18:00] <seb128> reopen that one and duplicate everything?
[18:00] <pitti> sounds sensible
[18:00] <seb128> ok, will do that
[18:01] <pitti> seb128: can you please target it to lucid, too?
[18:01] <seb128> will do
[18:01] <pitti> thanks
[18:01] <pitti> did anyone else notice something bug related which we shoudl track?
[18:01] <rickspencer3> pitti, I've noticed a decrease in the total # of RC bugs
[18:01] <pitti> or has concerns about this WIs/assigned bugs?
[18:01] <rickspencer3> and that most people with an RC bug have but 1 bug
[18:01] <rickspencer3> this seems promising to me
[18:01] <pitti> rickspencer3: don't worry, we won't run out of work anytime soon :)
[18:01] <rickspencer3> am I seeing the world thorugh rose colored glasses
[18:01] <rickspencer3> ?
[18:01] <rickspencer3> lol
[18:02] <pitti> but yes, getting the RC list down is great
[18:02] <didrocks> rickspencer3: aubergine one :)
[18:02] <seb128> urg
[18:02] <rickspencer3> ok, beta 2 will be bring a crush of RC bugs
[18:02] * rickspencer3 kicks didrocks
[18:02] <didrocks> *ouch*
[18:02] <rickspencer3> (nice one didrocks)
[18:02] <rickspencer3> pitti, that was it for me
[18:02] <seb128> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=_XAllocID<<BR>> [18:03] <pitti> </release status sermon> (still interested in feedback about the two X.org driver failures, though)
[18:03] <seb128> I'm too lazy to dup those 67 crashes I think
[18:03] <seb128> does anybody has a script for that?
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that would create a lot of bug spam ;)
[18:03] <rickspencer3> seb128, you can use bughugger for that!
[18:03] <pitti> seb128: lp-set-dup
[18:03] <pitti> seb128: but we should also have a bug pattern for that, I'll write one
[18:03] <seb128> thank
[18:03] <rickspencer3> that sounds great
[18:04] <rickspencer3> pitti, shall we adjourn the meeting?
[18:04] <pitti> seb128: use ctrl+mouse selection to get the list of numbers, and call lp-set-dup on it with the master bug being first
[18:04] <pitti> rickspencer3: WFM