2010-04-13

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Meeting Minutes

Present

Main Meeting

Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
Alberto Milone (tseliot)
Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
Chris Cheney (ccheney)
Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)
Didier Roche (didrocks)
Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
Martin Pitt (pitti)
Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
Travis Hartwell (Nafai)

Eastern Edition

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)
Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF)
Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Apologies

Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)

Agenda

Outstanding actions from last meeting
Partner Update
Kubuntu Update
Intel 8xx bugs
Maverick Blueprints
Release Bugs/Release Status
Review activity reports
Any other business

Actions from this meeting

Partner Update

OLS

quite a few bugs marked as release critical, many of which are now fixed upstream or already fix released.
desktopcouch crashers are still alarming, upstream feels like they have fixed the known ones and should be released soon.

DX

bug list is under control, current status here

Kubuntu Update

Intel 8xx bugs

Blueprints

Release Status

http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-desktop-team-lucid-beta-2.html

Other Business

Activity reports

Alberto Milone (tseliot)

Done:

LP: #248392 ia32-libs 32bit libgl search for dri at wrong place on 64bit system
LP: #554191 fglrx causes X to segfault
LP: #544781 nvidia-96 failed to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04: Error! Application of patch fails
LP: #552653 Jockey fails to install nvidia hardware driver
Add one more quirk for Inspirons' touchpads
LP: #539196 nvidia-settings X display configuration window doesn't work on nvidia-173 and nvidia-96
LP: #552903 LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH wrong after deactivating and restarting computer
LP: #552782 installation of fglrx 8.721 fails when removing a diversion on libdri.so
LP: #538071 KMS driver blacklisting with /usr on separate partition fails (Lucid)
LP: #556653 Nvidia build fails in chrooted system

In progress:

LP: #440233 fglrx fails at startup because of missing amdpcsdb.default + removal leaves bad settings in Xorg.conf
LP: #553954 plymouth has a non translatable string coming up on screen
LP: #559587 package fglrx (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/etc/ati/signature'

Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)

Bryce Harrington (bryce)

Multitouch
- Re-review MT emails for what current status is
- Identify tool(s) for gesture verification
- Set up new MT system
- Preliminary testing - found out need to reinstall Win7 in order to update the firmware !?!
- Flesh out wiki page outlining steps for analyzing MT hardware
- Set up touchscreen LCD - found out it has a proprietary USB interface. Ick.
Documentation
- Update X/Reporting
- Update X/Drivers
- Update driver requirements wiki page
- Document use of drm.debug=0x04 to get more debugging information in dmesg
- Document xorg.conf.d configuration
- Document Xv/X11 video configuration
- Document that if edid is not getting through a kvm or whatever, to use video=VGA1:1024x768
- Document troubleshooting process for blank screen issues using xtrace
- Document paste-edid < /sys/class/drm/*/edid
Upstream all triaged -ati bugs tagged 'lucid'
- Upstream 2 triaged -ati bugs; replan for tomorrow
Bug Work
- Identify fixes from upstream tree for xserver
- Look for dupes of MSI bug
- Investigate IOMMU enablement issues
- Solve all high priority triaged xorg bugs tagged 'lucid'
- Obtain/upload fix for clutter crashing bug #550218
- Upstream all triaged xserver bugs tagged 'lucid'
- Request blacklist KMS for i830 (bug 542208)
- Test rebooting chideok to see if rosewell wireless mouse is detected
- Sponsor various of X patches
Arsenal
- Fix pci-extract.py to apply changes to all relevant -ati bugs
- Make the PkgList stuff not keep historical data around
- Investigate why more incomplete bugs aren't being processed by incomplete bug processor
- Make process-new ask for users to run ubuntu-collect to attach needed files
- Make process-new-bugs.py ignore bugs starting with Please
Short week - off Friday for vacation

Chris Cheney (ccheney)

Preparing openoffice.org and l10n 1:3.2.0-6ubuntu1
- Lots of RC bugs fixed, only Oracle copyright update and arm patch from NCommander left before upload.
- Should be uploaded by the end of the day.

Chris Halse Rogers (RAOF)

Lots of Intel & Nouveau bugwork
- Went through all the lucid Intel & Nouveau bugs
  - 8xx chips are a mess, and don't look like they'll get fixed upstream soon. Upstream has gone through a number of suspected fixes, all of which haven't been fixes. Turning off 3D on 845 & 855, and turning of KMS on 830 should get us sufficiently stable X.
  - 9xx chips seem pretty good. No serious wide-spread problems identified and a couple of relatively minor problems have workarounds.
  - Nouveau's tracking surprisingly well. When it works at all, it seems to generally work quite well. When it doesn't work at all, disabling acceleration allows systems to boot. Nouveau as a better stepping stone to -nvidia was our goal for Lucid.
- Disable DRI on i845 & i855 Intel chips to avoid hitting serious crasher bugs (LP: #541492, LP: #541511) - awaiting sponsoring.
- Pick up upstream fix for X startup crashes on old nv cards (LP: #547124) - awaiting sponsoring.
- Create a kernel patch to allow us to quirk acceleration off on troublesome nvidia cards
  - Currently we have GeForce 3, GeForce 6100 and the 9600GT in 5th gen MacBook Pros as default-noaccel.
  - These systems fail to get to X without quirking off acceleration.
- Further investigated MacBook Pro situation; infuriatingly, disabling acceleration no longer seems enough to make them bootable.
- Chase up a possible fix for LP: #558657. Test kernel waiting for reporter to verify fix.
Push new gnome-keyring-sharp up to Debian; fix silly error identified in review, and sync fix back to Lucid.
Half an hour's investigation as to why gnome-do now dies in the keyring. Find that libgnome-keyring seems to be much less thread-safe than g-k-s was, although g-k-s wasn't thread-safe either. Patch created, needs a little polish. Need to wire up a similar patch for Docky.

Didier Roche (didrocks)

UNE:
- clutk: work with njpatel to fix the errors in some languages with wrongly ordered icons (LP: #435805). Made new release and upload.
- netbook-launcher: fix duplicate desktop folder showing in the ui (LP: #554807). Made new release and upload.
- New installation and upgrade from karmic test: all seems good
- Try to install ubuntu-desktop on a fresh UNE install: success
- Try to install ubuntu-netbook on a fresh ubuntu desktop install: success
- lot of bug triaging. No bug too worrying for lucid release right now.
GNOME:
- metacity: fix little dead space in the button ordering. Upload new release of metacity too.
- vala: upload stable release (0.8), still some packages that needs to be transitioned, working with maintainers.
- try to debug some g-c-c bug (hang in desktop effect). chriscoulson was finally cleverer than I on that. Some good training on valgrind too.
- Look at embarrassing bug #221112 encountered by French people keyboard layout (space is wrongly taken by rhythmbox for play/pause, forbidenning using it in search field). This is even more annoying as it impacts the music store too. After doing a lot of research (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9529, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/198759, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15804, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/324480, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/89835, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-fr-l10n/2007-February/001113.html), and tried to talk with involved people it seems we can have a workaround (currently under test on my config). Still waiting to talk to upstream people has there is no ideal solution.
Quickly:
- Fix some bugs to be ready to release 0.4 (export DEBSIGN_KEYID, tutorial issue, and ubuntu-pygame one)
- i18n new messages finally imported into LP \o/
- developing a new nautilus extension widgets and extending API (screenshots available here and here)
- merging debug command from Nafai
- help the two students we can have for Quickly to setup their GSoC proposal
misc:
- completing and registring UNE default app and settings (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-une-app-selection) and Quickly (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-quickly/) blueprints.
- proposing OneConf (see item in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/10.10/BlueprintList)
- notation in ubuntu GSoC proposal

Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)

Ken VanDine (kenvandine)

fixed the gwibber/keyring bug, thanks to Nafai and Pitti for all their help
desktopcouch testing
empathy 2.30.0.1, ported indicator patch dropping NotificationData which was dropped upstream
gwibber i18n fixes
fixed some gwibber message parsing bugs

Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)

Martin Pitt (pitti)

Assigned blueprints: all done