2011-09-06
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Weekly Summary
- New pygobject 2.90 is in oneiric, and all known breakage fixed. Please report problems. (pitti)
- Started packaging GNOME 3.1.90/3.1.91. (rodrigo, ricotz, jbicha, pitti, didrocks)
LibreOffice (bjoern-michaelsen)
- working on a patch-only (decoupling from debian packaging) 3.3.4 SRU for Natty
- working on 3.4.3 update for Oneiric
Partner update
Unity
- Unity
New Unity last week, fixed a bunch of bugs and speedup improvment. Full list at https://launchpad.net/unity/4.0/4.12.0
- Full CJK support across many components (unity, apt-xapian, software-center and zeitgeist-fts)
- This week will see a new Unity release, focused on startup time speedup. Other misc; fixes to alt + tab and dash coming.
- New compiz under testing in the unity-team ppa. Fix some stacking issues and other misc. bugs. Still some work needed for getting all the stacking issues out.
Worked on integrating back in gnome-control-center and GNOME compiz. Work done, you can enjoy Ctrl + Alt + T by default again!
- Unity-2d:
New unity-2d release this week. Full list of bug fixes at https://launchpad.net/unity-2d/+milestone/4.4
- Worked on some startup flickering, 3 are quite annoying:
nautilus shows its appmenu bar before unity-2d is showing (and it's showing as well under GNOME session). Wait for dx team (bumped the priority) so that they update their appmenu patch for Gtk3 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/839611)
nautilus shows a left bar (5px) for few seconds on the left. After debugging, tt's the desktop icon background (but it already have the full screen size), is it a remaining panel part? Chriscoulson will look at it. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/839610)
metacity shows some green/blue/all color boxes in https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/820553. Seems because
- Qt 4.7.4 available in the ubuntu-desktop ppa. It breaks unity-2d right now, some fixes already in, but more work needed. Kubuntu testing under way.
Software Center
- Software Center version 4.1.21 released, includes:
- Currently fixing many more bugs, fixes to be included in next release coming this week
Kubuntu
X.org
IRC log Western edition
17:31:43 pitti Sweetshark, seb128: welcome back! 17:31:43 Sweetshark o/ 17:31:51 seb128 thanks ;-) 17:31:51 pitti Sweetshark: so you didn't get "hack"ed into pieces? 17:32:29 Sweetshark pitti: no, just a good shakeup on the flight back through the thunderstorm. 17:32:50 pitti ken is on holidays, so no partner update today 17:33:04 Sweetshark pitti: otherwise, it was really quite a success. 17:33:30 pitti Sweetshark: nice! looking forward to your trip report 17:33:52 pitti didrocks: as usual, very nice unity update on the wiki, merci! anythign to discuss? 17:34:02 didrocks I guess it covers everything :) 17:35:36 ogra_ didrocks, are you caring for bug 839557 ? 17:35:37 ubot2` Launchpad bug 839557 in qt4-x11 "FFe: Qt 4.7.4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839557 17:35:41 mterry hi 17:35:54 * ogra_ just left a note there, would be good to get vlc buildable again on arm 17:35:57 didrocks ogra_: yeah, it's in the ubuntu-desktop ppa, see the team meeting report we are just doing :) 17:36:10 ogra_ didrocks, awesome ! 17:36:16 didrocks ogra_: and see the recent discussion with doko on #ubuntu-devel :) 17:36:18 ogra_ doko, ^^^ 17:36:43 pitti tremolux: anythign which we ought to discuss about s-c? 17:36:44 ogra_ oh, i missed that :) 17:36:48 pitti tremolux: I actually have a question there 17:36:55 tremolux pitti: hello! sure, fire away 17:36:57 * ogra_ was doing the vlc stuff as a side thing only 17:37:12 pitti tremolux: what's the kind of feedback in terms of bugs/IRC rants/etc you got from beta-1? 17:37:25 pitti tremolux: I didn't notice an outburst of people complaining that it doesn't work, or anythign like that 17:37:56 tremolux pitti: right, that's my impression also, at least if they are complaining a lot, I don't know where ;) 17:38:10 tremolux we do have crashes and lots of rough edges that people complain about in bug reports 17:38:40 pitti tremolux: and now that oneconf is in, I guess there is not a lot of reason to switch back; WDYT? 17:38:41 tremolux but we are fixing those as quickly as we can 17:39:02 pedro_ there were a few crashes in s-c but i must say that they were fixed really quickly :-) 17:39:07 tremolux pitti: well, I did not know there was an option to switch back! 17:39:12 pedro_ bug patterns were written for most of them 17:39:13 rodrigo_ :) 17:39:27 pitti tremolux: well, it would have been the obvious contingency plan in case -gtk 3 fell apart, or oneconf broke, etc. 17:39:34 tremolux pitti: yep :) 17:39:37 * pitti hugs pedro_ 17:39:53 pitti tremolux: do you plan to keep -gtk2 as a fallback, or do you want to remove it from the package completely? 17:39:54 tremolux pitti: but yes, it seems things are really not in bad shape 17:40:03 tremolux pitti: so far, we will keep it I think 17:40:31 tremolux pitti: but yeah, there will be no use maintaining that at all so it should go as soon as we can 17:40:37 pitti ok, thanks 17:40:46 tremolux pedro_: yes, thanks for the bugpatterns!! :) 17:41:07 pitti another general plea: please update your remaining WIs (or postpone them as appropriate) 17:41:18 pitti otherwise I'll need to steal your time individually to talk about them 17:41:21 pedro_ tremolux, you're welcome :-) 17:41:28 pitti we just need to ensure that we don't keep lose ends 17:41:41 pitti AOB? 17:41:59 pedro_ o/ 17:42:14 pitti pedro_: please go ahead 17:42:14 seb128 that was an efficient meeting ;-) 17:42:20 didrocks was so quick! :) 17:42:24 pedro_ we still have a few bugs assigned to the team which are targeted to Oneiric : http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-desktop/oneiric.html 17:42:26 pitti well, nothing do discuss so far :) 17:42:38 * Sweetshark looks around: "Where is my meeting?" 17:42:38 pitti (in fact, at some point we should re-discuss the purpose and structure of the meeting; perhaps at UDS) 17:42:39 rodrigo_ pedro_, "a few" is too optimistic :) 17:42:39 pedro_ would be nice if you guys can review the list and start assigning those to individuals 17:42:45 pedro_ so they can be worked ;-) 17:42:54 pedro_ or assign everything to rodrigo_ 17:42:56 pedro_ oops 17:42:59 * rodrigo_ leaves 17:43:11 seb128 yeah, I vote for assigning to rodrigo_ 17:43:15 tremolux haha 17:43:16 seb128 they are mostly g-c-c bugs anyway 17:43:23 rodrigo_ pedro_, hmm, that's a different report from the other one you had 17:43:23 seb128 ;-) 17:43:30 rodrigo_ http://people.canonical.com/~pedro/desktop/canonical-desktop-team-assigned-bug-tasks.html 17:43:33 pedro_ but that's more or less , please review and lets keep the fixing ball rolling 17:43:37 pitti pedro_: you mean the ones assigned to the team? right, I'll have a pass over those 17:43:37 rodrigo_ so, should we follow the other one? 17:43:45 rodrigo_ I was looking at http://people.canonical.com/~pedro/desktop/canonical-desktop-team-assigned-bug-tasks.html all the time 17:43:49 pedro_ pitti, yeah 17:44:11 pedro_ rodrigo_, that's for 'all' the bugs in launchpad, the other is just listing the reports with an Oneiric task 17:44:17 rodrigo_ ah 17:44:18 didrocks pedro_: come on! we will get bugs assigned because of you! Hope you are happy :-) 17:44:26 pitti pedro_: and the "none" ones, too 17:44:46 pedro_ didrocks, oh that's the idea, make me happier ;-) 17:44:55 rodrigo_ the ones for g-c-c and g-s-d can be assigned to me, yes 17:44:58 rodrigo_ the others not :) 17:45:09 pedro_ pitti, indeed 17:45:18 pedro_ pitti, that's all from here 17:45:32 pitti pedro_: thanks; I'll garden the list this week 17:45:37 pitti AOB?
IRC log Eastern edition
09:04:44 > TheMuso: STARTMEETING. 09:04:51 > TheMuso: bryceh: So whats happening in X land? 09:05:34 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: there is an xserver 1.10.4 in our git tree, ready to burst on the scene at any time 09:06:01 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: it's almost entirely just modest bug fixes, so unlikely to cause much of a stir 09:06:41 > TheMuso: Ok sounds good. 09:06:50 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: I rolled out a new xdiagnose 1.2, which includes some improvements for failsafe-x 09:07:08 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: still haven't confirmed a successful test with lightdm yet though 09:07:41 > TheMuso: Ok. 09:08:59 > TheMuso: Anything else to add, or should we move on? 09:09:52 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: nothing much else; been mostly tending to random bug reports and working on a couple private projects 09:10:15 > TheMuso: Ok sounds great, looks like X will be solid for oneiric. 09:10:26 > TheMuso: robert_ancell: How does lightdm progress this week? 09:10:40 < robert_ancell!~bob@ppp121-44-173-156.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net: need to make a release... 09:11:08 < robert_ancell!~bob@ppp121-44-173-156.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net: There's hooks in the next release, which hopefully bryceh can use to help diagnose what is using all the CPU in the login screen 09:11:39 < robert_ancell!~bob@ppp121-44-173-156.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net: Also, lightdm now quits if the display fails to start, so failsafe-x can work with it 09:11:58 < robert_ancell!~bob@ppp121-44-173-156.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net: there's some minor UI changes in unity-greeter, which will require a ffe 09:12:03 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: robert_ancell, and thanks for the tips on hooking up xtrace; going to experiment with that for helping us find what desktop apps are driving the X cpu loads so much during boot 09:12:08 -!- nekohayo!~jeff@206-248-171-113.dsl.teksavvy.com has quit [] 09:12:57 > TheMuso: Sweet. 09:13:07 < robert_ancell!~bob@ppp121-44-173-156.lns20.syd7.internode.on.net: the work for that came from Guido Berhoerster from open suse / xfce so thanks to him! 09:13:33 > TheMuso: Ok sounds good. 09:14:28 > TheMuso: So, pulseaudio 0.99.3 landed on Monday, which was a bugfix release. David Henningsen has also been working on some jack detection support stuff, which will make pulseaudio know more about the volume controls to use depending on what is plugged in where. 09:14:35 > TheMuso: I'll be uploading the last bits of that after the meeting. 09:15:01 -!- ronoc!~ronoc@client-80-4-253-239.cht-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:15:14 > TheMuso: A11y wise, a bit of a nag has been hit, due to some GTK and GIR issues, see bug 769256. 09:15:16 < ubot2`!~ubot2@unaffiliated/jpds/bot/ubot2: Launchpad bug 769256 in gtk+3.0 "Gdk enumerations do not contain GType info in GIR" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769256 09:15:17 > TheMuso: snag 09:15:37 > TheMuso: I hope to see if I can nut out a work-around with either seb or pitti this afternoon. 09:15:46 > TheMuso: at least till an upstrea fix is available. 09:15:51 > TheMuso: *upstream 09:16:17 > TheMuso: Unity-2d is now set as the default session for people who install using the screen reader or braille accessibility profiles. 09:16:36 > TheMuso: And once the new lightdm lands, we will have accessible login again. 09:17:05 > TheMuso: Thats about it from me. 09:17:09 > TheMuso: Any other business? 09:17:30 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: yeah, I'm curious how we're doing with the bootspeed work? 09:17:41 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: did some issues get sorted out? 09:18:03 > TheMuso: I know there has been some back and forth about it, but I'm not sure where that ended up. 09:19:11 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: mm, ok, thanks. 09:19:21 > TheMuso: bryceh: Were you CCed in the recent discussion? 09:20:34 < bryceh!~bryce@static-50-53-79-63.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net: yeah, but haven't seen any further discussion today 09:20:55 > TheMuso: Right, nore have I. 09:21:11 > TheMuso: Ok if there is nothing else... 09:22:12 > TheMuso: ENDMEETING. 09:22:14 > TheMuso: thanks folks.
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