Actions
- Next meeting Jan 15th
- Taglines to be submitted till Jan 29th
- Script ideas, a bit dependant on taglines, maybe 2 weeks later.
- UndiFineD: Guidelines in etherpad
- Barry Drake: Report from the Windows IT Shop guys
- Jason Odoom: Write a small survey on computer issues
- Some of our members follow or have an MBA or marketing education, who is willing to focus on Sponsorship ?
- UndiFineD: write out a leadership tasks specification
- Matt Griffin: promote the team on Twitter, Facebook, Identi.ca
- potentially liase with artwork team
Matt Griffin: get in touch with the UbuntuAdverts Design team members, for flyers, banners and such
Links
Agafonov holiday ad: http://agafonov.pp.ru/files/render_short_en.mp4
volunteers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/People
progress survey: https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHNjVVYtZHpaajE1Z0JqWlA4SUdVVFE6MQ
rewrite guidelines: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1232641/Guidelines%20Ubuntu%20Advert.pdf
Design documents: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design
brand communication guide: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/brand-communication-guide/
Linux Foundation contest: http://video.linux.com/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest
DIY Marketing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
Creative Brief examples: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=creative+brief
Our reaserch: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Research
Full log
start meeting
Jan 01 19:44:51 <Billynkid> Is the meeting at 2011pm UTC 2100 UTC or as doodle advertises Midnight UTC? Jan 01 19:51:09 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-advertising/msg00370.html Jan 01 19:51:20 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: 2100 UTC Jan 01 19:52:23 <Billynkid> oops just missed that doodle automagically translated that into midnight CET Jan 01 19:53:01 <mattgriffin> :) Jan 01 21:06:58 * UndiFineD gives channel operator status to uat Jan 01 21:07:02 * UndiFineD removes channel operator status from UndiFineD Jan 01 21:52:56 <AndroUser> is da meeting gonna sg Jan 01 21:54:37 <barrydrake> Happy New Year to all of you. Meeting in about? six minutes? Jan 01 21:59:00 <barrydrake> One minute? Jan 01 21:59:56 <UndiFineD> :) Jan 01 21:59:58 <Darael> Meeting time, then? Jan 01 22:00:21 <mattgriffin> ready to go Jan 01 22:00:30 <Emerling> hi Jan 01 22:00:32 <Emerling> i am ready Jan 01 22:00:48 <idi0tf0wl> howdy ho Jan 01 22:01:17 <Billynkid> ready Jan 01 22:01:28 <UndiFineD> $voice mattgriffin Jan 01 22:01:28 * uat gives voice to mattgriffin Jan 01 22:01:32 <UndiFineD> $voice barrydrake Jan 01 22:01:32 * uat gives voice to barrydrake Jan 01 22:02:17 <barrydrake> Sorry - What does that mean? Jan 01 22:02:28 <mattgriffin> agenda: http://openetherpad.org/FT2qeUMiaC Jan 01 22:03:27 <barrydrake> undi - hows about we start? Jan 01 22:03:37 <Darael> Hobey-ho, let's go. The first item on the agenda is "start meeting" - who's presiding? Jan 01 22:04:02 <barrydrake> UniFined, I think Jan 01 22:04:45 <Darael> Usually is, yeah. Jan 01 22:05:54 <barrydrake> Hows about all of us that are taking part say we ar here? Jan 01 22:07:37 <mattgriffin> hi all Jan 01 22:07:38 <Darael> Very well: I am here. Jan 01 22:07:45 <Yorvyk> \o Jan 01 22:08:01 <Billynkid> here Jan 01 22:08:45 <Emerling> me to Jan 01 22:09:52 <AndroUser> here Jan 01 22:09:53 <barrydrake> Hi Jason Jan 01 22:10:20 <AndroUser> i am accually hakimsheriff Jan 01 22:10:54 <barrydrake> I know, but Jason has just joined the meeting. Jan 01 22:10:55 <Billynkid> I'm Simon Vass Jan 01 22:11:25 <barrydrake> I'm Barry Drake - could you have worked that out for yourself? Jan 01 22:12:08 <Yorvyk> ... and I'm Steve Cook
Questions
Jan 01 22:12:43 <barrydrake> UndiFineD - do you mind if we move on and ask - Item 3 - Initial questions. Are there any? Jan 01 22:13:29 <UndiFineD> ok hi everyone, best wishes for the new year, you had to excuse me, I just came out of a loco meeting Jan 01 22:13:41 <UndiFineD> i have no questions Jan 01 22:13:46 <mattgriffin> barrydrake: no questions Jan 01 22:13:54 <barrydrake> No Jan 01 22:14:21 <UndiFineD> $voice jasono Jan 01 22:14:21 * uat gives voice to jasono Jan 01 22:14:25 <UndiFineD> $voice UndiFineD Jan 01 22:14:25 * uat gives voice to UndiFineD Jan 01 22:16:08 <UndiFineD> Ok next point i guess
Announcements
Jan 01 22:16:17 <UndiFineD> Anouncements: Jan 01 22:16:41 <barrydrake> None from me Jan 01 22:16:50 <UndiFineD> Danté Ashton came with some very sad news for the new year Jan 01 22:17:20 * AndroUser is now known as hakimsheriff Jan 01 22:17:26 <barrydrake> That actually put quite a damper on my New Year celebration Jan 01 22:18:08 <UndiFineD> He is suffering from some form of muscle decease, and now unable to do simple things :/ Jan 01 22:18:33 <barrydrake> Anything more specific you mnow? It isn't MS is it? Jan 01 22:18:54 <UndiFineD> no all I know is from that mail Jan 01 22:20:03 <barrydrake> BTW I trust that 'decease' is a typo Jan 01 22:20:26 <UndiFineD> sorry, english is not my native language Jan 01 22:20:44 <idi0tf0wl> so what exactly is going on with an advertisement? Jan 01 22:21:00 <idi0tf0wl> as far as actually putting that in place? Jan 01 22:21:12 <UndiFineD> idi0tf0wl: well, we try to get the people and material together to make one Jan 01 22:21:27 <idi0tf0wl> what sorts of directions are we looking to head? Jan 01 22:21:41 <mattgriffin> idi0tf0wl: i'd say we're in the early stages of forming the team and creating our first output Jan 01 22:22:20 <idi0tf0wl> and we're here to figure some of that stuff out, right? Jan 01 22:22:34 <idi0tf0wl> so should we do that? Jan 01 22:22:45 <idi0tf0wl> or are we talking about something else? Jan 01 22:22:57 <mattgriffin> idi0tf0wl: right. how we're going to work together and then get to making something Jan 01 22:23:21 <UndiFineD> if you want more details, please read the website, wiki and other meeting notes too :) Jan 01 22:23:26 <idi0tf0wl> we should figure out our destination meidum first, i'd think Jan 01 22:23:38 <barrydrake> Dante has said that he will make contact with the college and arrange a studio visit to investigate facilities etc. I am close enough to go there either with, or to represent Dante if that helps. I could haelp organise that side of things for this team if that were needed. Jan 01 22:23:38 <idi0tf0wl> right, i've been following along Jan 01 22:24:11 <UndiFineD> awasome barrydrake Jan 01 22:24:16 <Billynkid> errr are we jumping ahead? Jan 01 22:24:23 <barrydrake> YES Jan 01 22:24:26 <Billynkid> or is this announcements? Jan 01 22:24:27 <mattgriffin> barrydrake: that's good to know. don't think there's an immediate need atm Jan 01 22:24:44 <idi0tf0wl> are we shooting for tv? Jan 01 22:24:48 <idi0tf0wl> or even video? Jan 01 22:24:48 <UndiFineD> we are still at announcements Jan 01 22:24:50 <barrydrake> NO Jan 01 22:24:51 <mattgriffin> any other announcements? Jan 01 22:24:53 <mattgriffin> idi0tf0wl: tbd Jan 01 22:25:03 <idi0tf0wl> haha when are we doing that? Jan 01 22:25:07 <mattgriffin> heh Jan 01 22:25:09 <idi0tf0wl> are we in announcements? Jan 01 22:25:18 <idi0tf0wl> 'cause we should get down to brass tacks Jan 01 22:25:25 <barrydrake> YES Jan 01 22:25:40 <mattgriffin> idi0tf0wl: yeah. but it looks like we might be done. barrydrake? Jan 01 22:25:54 <idi0tf0wl> where are our resources? Jan 01 22:26:00 <idi0tf0wl> i mean, where can we expect to advertise Jan 01 22:26:09 <idi0tf0wl> then we can cater our solutions to the destinations Jan 01 22:26:10 <barrydrake> as I see it, but UndiFineD is in the chair Jan 01 22:26:11 <Agafonov> Hi. My long way to produce an ad is about to end this holydays: http://agafonov.pp.ru/files/render_short_en.mp4 feel free to beat me privately or here. Jan 01 22:26:17 <UndiFineD> idi0tf0wl: could we please get on with the meeting Jan 01 22:26:26 <mattgriffin> idi0tf0wl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/People - here's a list of people who have volunteered to do stuff when we need their help Jan 01 22:27:12 <UndiFineD> ok cool Agafonov
Progress Survey
Jan 01 22:27:29 <UndiFineD> Progress Survey: Jan 01 22:27:57 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: can i get a little clarification of what 'progress survey' is? Jan 01 22:27:57 <UndiFineD> we have a survey up, I do not know who has access to this, but I would like to know its progress Jan 01 22:28:00 <Emerling> o\ Jan 01 22:28:13 <Billynkid> UndiFined is Leadership for sponsership not next? Jan 01 22:28:49 <UndiFineD> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHNjVVYtZHpaajE1Z0JqWlA4SUdVVFE6MQ Jan 01 22:29:16 <UndiFineD> Billynkid: yes you are right Jan 01 22:29:37 <UndiFineD> but I think the survey was written by Danté / Cassidy James Jan 01 22:29:42 <UndiFineD> both not here Jan 01 22:29:58 <barrydrake> Well, I've posted most of my stuff as it happened. I've got the promise of a full report by tow Window IT specialists who have been examining my sister's installation of 10.04. I suspect that most of their quibbles/queries are because they still see the need to run certain Window-only apps. I will correspond and report. Jan 01 22:31:08 <UndiFineD> nice barrydrake
Leadership for sponsership
Jan 01 22:31:18 <UndiFineD> Leadership for sponsership: Jan 01 22:31:31 <barrydrake> Not I sir Jan 01 22:31:36 <UndiFineD> well, it is a simple question, who is up for the task(s) Jan 01 22:31:47 <Agafonov> barrydrake: yes, my findings are the same for many peoples who tried Ubuntu Jan 01 22:32:09 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: is there a place to find out more about the process? Jan 01 22:32:22 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: i might be up to the task but don't know the scope of the responsibility Jan 01 22:32:33 <UndiFineD> MBA school / Marketing Jan 01 22:32:51 <UndiFineD> we had a couple of signups in those areas Jan 01 22:33:38 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: oh. so more roles than the existing 'project leaders'? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/People Jan 01 22:33:58 <UndiFineD> I know we have knowledgable people, but not many come to the meetings Jan 01 22:34:19 <barrydrake> [sponsorship] But I am corresponding with the CEO of ElpaTech computers in the UK. I have high hopes there as there is a LOT in it for them. Target folk like that please. Jan 01 22:35:23 <Emerling> i havce question Jan 01 22:35:28 <Emerling> have Jan 01 22:35:41 <barrydrake> Uhu? Jan 01 22:35:48 <UndiFineD> yep, someone who leads sponsorship should know which business to get the resources and where to spread our word Jan 01 22:36:48 <barrydrake> I'll aid and abet - but not lead. I have years and years in business to draw experience from. Use me a Jan 01 22:36:59 <UndiFineD> current leaders know we had some nice talks, but jasono and I are in no position to discuss this with them Jan 01 22:37:18 <barrydrake> s a kind of consultant. Sorry - pushed the button early Jan 01 22:37:25 * #ubuntu-adverts :You're not channel operator Jan 01 22:37:36 <UndiFineD> $voice jasono Jan 01 22:37:36 * uat gives voice to jasono Jan 01 22:37:38 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: so this about finding a sponsor for media that we'd like to use to spread the message? Jan 01 22:37:58 <barrydrake> Sponsors Jan 01 22:38:18 <Billynkid> Can we look at companies such as DELL? Jan 01 22:38:23 <UndiFineD> yes, but also talk with sabdfl, who is / was also among us Jan 01 22:38:29 <barrydrake> Why not Jan 01 22:39:09 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: Canonical is already working with the large OEMs like Dell Jan 01 22:39:21 <moiso> hi there sorry for beeing late i had a problem w my connection Jan 01 22:39:24 <Billynkid> I know Jan 01 22:39:35 <Billynkid> But we need sponsers correct? Jan 01 22:39:39 <barrydrake> They need to be commercial organisations, and they need to know athe outset what's in it for their company. Jan 01 22:40:07 <UndiFineD> yes we need sponsors, and someone who knows how to talk with these people Jan 01 22:40:21 <barrydrake> I can talk to them Jan 01 22:40:30 <mattgriffin> Billynkid, UndiFineD, barrydrake: we don't even know what we want to say and to whom... much less which mediums we'd like to use so i don't think we'd make progress right now with seeking sponsorships Jan 01 22:40:55 <mattgriffin> i think we might be getting ahead of ourselves a little Jan 01 22:41:10 <mattgriffin> but it's a good thing to keep in mind i think for the future Jan 01 22:41:10 <Billynkid> matt griffin so lets define who and what? Jan 01 22:41:26 <barrydrake> We need to present them with a plan of action, sure, but more than that, we need to say to them the Jan 01 22:41:33 <Billynkid> Or have somewhere we can define who and what if we can't do it now Jan 01 22:41:40 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: right. it's on the agenda Jan 01 22:41:43 <Billynkid> like the scripts aread? Jan 01 22:41:51 <Emerling> excuse my English is bad. I think they must first organize the work done and then seek support from other Jan 01 22:42:05 <barrydrake> that if they come on board, they can be a Canonical Partner and get loads of FREE publicity!!! Jan 01 22:42:06 <UndiFineD> not right now, for that we need to work out stuff like the do's and don'ts, guidelines, select good taglines and scripts we can do Jan 01 22:42:36 <barrydrake> OK Jan 01 22:42:57 <Emerling> is limiting to use a tagline or more.? Jan 01 22:43:15 <UndiFineD> Emerling: we may need more Jan 01 22:43:41 <barrydrake> Give a scenario: audio video TV movies etc Jan 01 22:43:49 <Emerling> undefined, ok but need more time, or more jobs, or more taglines Jan 01 22:44:00 <barrydrake> Yes Jan 01 22:44:03 <UndiFineD> what if we get a deal that allows us to do a series, and what about local poromotion, handouts , flyers Jan 01 22:44:19 <barrydrake> Nered to go thought them all Jan 01 22:44:50 <mattgriffin> i think we're getting a little sidetracked (partly my fault :) ... want to steer back to the agenda? Jan 01 22:44:56 <Billynkid> plz Jan 01 22:45:10 <barrydrake> yep Jan 01 22:45:37 <Billynkid> So I think sponsership needs to wait is what we are saying? Jan 01 22:45:44 <UndiFineD> yes Jan 01 22:45:48 <Billynkid> We don't have all the pieces? Jan 01 22:45:52 <mattgriffin> right Jan 01 22:45:55 <Emerling> +1 Billynkid Jan 01 22:46:01 <barrydrake> I'm OK with waiting Jan 01 22:46:05 <UndiFineD> unless someone turns up and syas, I do this /ant to do this for a living Jan 01 22:46:05 <mattgriffin> :) Jan 01 22:46:15 <Billynkid> Agreed Jan 01 22:46:50 <Billynkid> Do we have somewhere to define the role? Jan 01 22:47:20 <UndiFineD> well we could make such a page if needed Jan 01 22:47:22 <Billynkid> Should it be under Get Involved on the ubuntuadverts site Jan 01 22:47:23 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD, barrydrake: when we're ready, i'd be happy to help move sponsorship forward. i do a bit of that already in my role at canonical Jan 01 22:47:39 <barrydrake> UndiFineD - humbly recommend moving on .... Jan 01 22:47:44 <mattgriffin> :) Jan 01 22:47:48 <UndiFineD> ok mattgriffin
Next meeting
Jan 01 22:47:56 <UndiFineD> Next meeting Jan 15th is ok ? Jan 01 22:48:12 <barrydrake> Why not? Jan 01 22:48:13 <moiso> 15th is ok Jan 01 22:48:18 <Billynkid> Sounds great Jan 01 22:48:25 <Emerling> i can I I can help with translation into Spanish and web promotion in Latin America Loco communities Jan 01 22:48:28 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: +1 Jan 01 22:49:12 <UndiFineD> From Logo to house style Jan 01 22:49:28 <mattgriffin> Emerling: cool. please make sure you're on the right lists at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/People Jan 01 22:49:36 <UndiFineD> CassidyJames has been working on Ubuntu Branding Guidelines Jan 01 22:50:02 <UndiFineD> obviously not ready yet Jan 01 22:50:12 <UndiFineD> but a wip Jan 01 22:50:32 <barrydrake> OK - so let's move on?
Rewrite production guidelines
Jan 01 22:50:35 <UndiFineD> Rewrite production guidelines: Jan 01 22:50:50 <barrydrake> Hmmmm .... Jan 01 22:50:56 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: where are the existing production guidelines? Jan 01 22:50:58 <UndiFineD> barrydrake: you were going to take a look just like me Jan 01 22:51:27 <UndiFineD> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1232641/Guidelines%20Ubuntu%20Advert.pdf Jan 01 22:51:38 <UndiFineD> that document , with errors Jan 01 22:52:16 <barrydrake> I did, and fraknly apart from the first paragraph I saw nothing wrong. I posted you a suggestion for the re-wroting of the first para, remen]mber? Jan 01 22:52:21 <UndiFineD> well, I have been very busy these vacation days, and did not have time to look at it Jan 01 22:53:03 <popey> those guidelines need some work! Jan 01 22:53:16 <UndiFineD> yes popey they do Jan 01 22:54:22 <Billynkid> for example item #5 is open to interpretation Jan 01 22:54:51 <Billynkid> and 6 Jan 01 22:55:13 <moiso> why don't put them in a etherpad to be reviewed by everyone of us? Jan 01 22:55:26 <moiso> and then edited acordinglly Jan 01 22:55:32 <Billynkid> Also personally can we lose the BOLD text netiquette an all ;-) Jan 01 22:55:40 <mattgriffin> heh Jan 01 22:55:42 <Billynkid> Or the wiki? Jan 01 22:55:43 <barrydrake> I agree Jan 01 22:55:55 <hakimsheriff> i agree too Jan 01 22:56:17 <barrydrake> Undi - will you do this? Jan 01 22:56:20 <UndiFineD> ok action, guidelines in etherpad Jan 01 22:56:41 <barrydrake> Moving on?
Promotion
Jan 01 22:57:05 <UndiFineD> Promotion: Jan 01 22:57:34 <Billynkid> Are we talking for the team or output of the team was my question for this topic Jan 01 22:57:35 <UndiFineD> for our team we could make some additional promotions, like facebook and twitter Jan 01 22:57:57 <hakimsheriff> good idea Jan 01 22:58:01 <mattgriffin> +1 Jan 01 22:58:07 <UndiFineD> for ubuntu we have a few new works in the form of flyers from barrydrake Jan 01 22:58:08 <barrydrake> Any kind of promo is good Jan 01 22:58:12 <Emerling> yes and sindicate in LoCo tams Jan 01 22:58:16 <Emerling> blogers Jan 01 22:59:18 <UndiFineD> so who can help us there Jan 01 22:59:29 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: i can take that todo Jan 01 22:59:52 * mattgriffin will create twitter and fb accounts for Ubuntu Adverts Jan 01 22:59:59 <UndiFineD> alright, great Jan 01 23:00:04 <jasono> What about..... designer make a banner and programmers program it for sites by html? Jan 01 23:00:13 <UndiFineD> anyone else want to add their bits Jan 01 23:00:17 <jasono> Me Jan 01 23:00:53 <jasono> Create a design/banner that can be added on websites (html code) Jan 01 23:00:54 <Billynkid> The omgubuntu article was what got my attention Jan 01 23:01:05 <jasono> I thought so. Jan 01 23:01:10 <Yorvyk> mattgriffin, identi.ca too Jan 01 23:01:15 <UndiFineD> yes, that would be mattgriffin and team Jan 01 23:01:20 <mattgriffin> Yorvyk: gotcha. will do Jan 01 23:01:35 <Emerling> can I help promote the team Loco bloggers and bloggers micro identi.ca twitter facebook etc. Jan 01 23:01:35 <Emerling> and translation, of progress and objectives, me too work in banners too and desing art over it concept Jan 01 23:01:46 <Billynkid> Also promoting within other teams? Jan 01 23:02:00 <Billynkid> such as marketing and tour? Jan 01 23:02:00 <moiso> thats a good idea Jan 01 23:02:07 <moiso> i came tru launchpad Jan 01 23:02:11 <Billynkid> Also helps to combine forces Jan 01 23:02:18 <Billynkid> also the manual team Jan 01 23:03:00 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: we have volunteers in the major categories on the /People page. not sure we want to look for more people right now before putting the existing volunteers to work Jan 01 23:03:12 <barrydrake> Careful you don't confine activity to Ubuntu Gereks ... Jan 01 23:03:28 <Billynkid> mattgriffin: also true Jan 01 23:04:02 <Billynkid> mattgriffin: main concern is not to duplicate efforts being done by others? Jan 01 23:04:03 <barrydrake> Sorry - Geeks Jan 01 23:04:25 <UndiFineD> I have been training my kids with programming, mypaint, inkscape Jan 01 23:04:33 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: gotcha... those are excellent resources that we can go to when we need assistance Jan 01 23:04:33 <UndiFineD> 2 girls 10 and 11 :P Jan 01 23:04:45 <moiso> as many other topics we need to have some work done in order to keep expanding i think Jan 01 23:04:59 <barrydrake> As have we all - in my case kids and grandkids Jan 01 23:05:30 <mattgriffin> :) Jan 01 23:06:38 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: which agenda item are we on now? Jan 01 23:06:50 <Billynkid> Still promotion:? Jan 01 23:06:50 <moiso> promo :) Jan 01 23:07:00 <Billynkid> actions? Jan 01 23:07:01 <UndiFineD> still the same Jan 01 23:07:41 <barrydrake> I'm very old, and shortly my pumpkin will change into a frog or something. Forget which. So ask me soon before I disappear. Jan 01 23:07:45 <UndiFineD> so will we get some more graphics / liase with artwork team, get some banners and flyers Jan 01 23:07:46 <hakimsheriff> e
Visiting the school in gloucestershire
Jan 01 23:08:16 <UndiFineD> Visiting the school in gloucestershire: Jan 01 23:08:33 <UndiFineD> barrydrake: you will take this up with danté Jan 01 23:08:41 <Billynkid> Sorry can't help much with that ;-) Jan 01 23:08:48 <Billynkid> wrong continent Jan 01 23:08:49 <barrydrake> only if you produce some ..... Jan 01 23:09:31 <Emerling> I'm not sure if I'm wrong, I think the action to take is a promotion manager, responsible to arrange everything once already, the promoters that we will work to spread the work, and translators, to replicate the news and reports on identi.ca twitter facebook etc etc. Jan 01 23:09:32 <UndiFineD> money ? gas ? bread ? Jan 01 23:09:39 <barrydrake> UndiFineD: I already have
Brand Communications Guide
Jan 01 23:10:47 <moiso> do we have enough artwork/flyers? Jan 01 23:11:02 <Billynkid> If so where? Jan 01 23:11:04 <moiso> i have seen the ones from barry but only those? Jan 01 23:11:12 <Billynkid> Ahh Jan 01 23:11:16 <UndiFineD> no, we need more choices i think Jan 01 23:11:21 <Billynkid> Sorry yep Jan 01 23:11:24 <Billynkid> agreed Jan 01 23:11:34 <Emerling> +1 UndiFineD Jan 01 23:11:35 <UndiFineD> there are older ones in ubuntu-marketing Jan 01 23:11:44 <moiso> yep but outdated Jan 01 23:11:48 <barrydrake> Sorry, pressed wong button again .... Jan 01 23:11:53 <UndiFineD> those could be reused when updated Jan 01 23:12:29 <Billynkid> Do they need to be updated to be brought inline with the design/branding guidelines? Jan 01 23:12:52 <moiso> and is there enough artwork makers? cause they should be making some more materials Jan 01 23:12:52 <Billynkid> Also the production guidelines discussed before Jan 01 23:12:54 <jasono> NO, Dante said they were fine. Jan 01 23:13:19 <UndiFineD> what is they jasono ? Jan 01 23:13:58 <UndiFineD> #ubuntu-artwork has some, very busy, people Jan 01 23:14:15 <UndiFineD> we could liase with them Jan 01 23:14:36 <UndiFineD> sure would make materials more uniform Jan 01 23:14:38 <moiso> i could help, but there is the designers/graphics group in our team.. Jan 01 23:14:39 <UndiFineD> hmm mattgriffin ? Jan 01 23:14:50 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: hi :) Jan 01 23:15:00 <Billynkid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing Jan 01 23:15:46 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: i've been through the current ubuntu branding docs and have prepared this summary: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design#Brand Jan 01 23:16:11 <mattgriffin> the branding docs are a work in progress so they're evolving each week Jan 01 23:16:53 <mattgriffin> but this is a good start creative-wise for explaining what logos to use, spacing, colours, etc. - see "Supplemental creative guidance and assets" on the wiki page ^ Jan 01 23:17:10 <UndiFineD> yes Jan 01 23:17:13 <moiso> ok that's a good guide to start Jan 01 23:17:23 <mattgriffin> "Brand Communications Guide" Jan 01 23:17:42 <Billynkid> We should also be closely linked to http://www.spreadubuntu.org/ Jan 01 23:17:43 <mattgriffin> i guess the link would help :) http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/brand-communication-guide/ Jan 01 23:18:00 <UndiFineD> point to it from the wiki Jan 01 23:19:24 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: doesn't look like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing has more current branding materials... looks like mostly stuff to support older releases Jan 01 23:19:40 <mattgriffin> last edited 2010-10-04 - oh that's really old ;) Jan 01 23:20:47 <popey> that page is generally only updated to contain the latest cd artwork Jan 01 23:20:52 <popey> rarely does anything else get added Jan 01 23:22:58 <UndiFineD> so plenty to communicate with
Taglines
Jan 01 23:23:51 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: so we were talking about flyers... i can get in touch with the UbuntuAdverts Design team members and start the ball rolling to create some stuff... we'd need to specify the purpose of the communication to get good quality stuff Jan 01 23:24:15 <UndiFineD> yes Jan 01 23:24:24 <jasono> mattgriffin Are you the leader of the designers? Jan 01 23:24:31 <UndiFineD> fresh new year for creativity Jan 01 23:24:56 <jasono> Flyers........ To do with what? Jan 01 23:25:18 <UndiFineD> jasono: to promote Jan 01 23:25:33 <barrydrake> suggest suppkying the stuff in modifyable form so folk can add their contact detalis Jan 01 23:25:34 <jasono> I know that! Jan 01 23:25:47 <Billynkid> Are we talking something that can be put inside a mag? Jan 01 23:25:48 <jasono> But where? You mean to post around a town/city? Jan 01 23:25:52 <jasono> No Jan 01 23:25:58 <UndiFineD> yes Jan 01 23:26:19 <jasono> So you think people will see the site and go on it? Jan 01 23:26:22 <UndiFineD> I am willing to go door-to-door, as I said during UDS-N Jan 01 23:26:39 <moiso> mattgriffin, the purpose of the communication should be related with our selected taglines Jan 01 23:26:45 <jasono> I was not, here, arrived late. Jan 01 23:27:24 <mattgriffin> jasono, UndiFineD: i'll start a creative brief and the team can collaborate on the purpose and how they're going to be used so the design team can have a good starting point Jan 01 23:27:33 <mattgriffin> moiso: ^ Jan 01 23:27:41 <Billynkid> Sounds good Jan 01 23:27:45 <UndiFineD> yep Jan 01 23:27:55 <UndiFineD> it is all connected Jan 01 23:28:02 <mattgriffin> :) Jan 01 23:28:20 <Billynkid> We might need several as it will depend on the media i.e. newprint, mag, A5 handout? Jan 01 23:28:38 <mattgriffin> Billynkid: cool Jan 01 23:29:47 <moiso> ok great Jan 01 23:30:23 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: do you know if this channel is logged? Jan 01 23:30:37 <UndiFineD> I log Jan 01 23:30:38 <barrydrake> It Is Jan 01 23:30:41 <moiso> it is Jan 01 23:30:43 <mattgriffin> barrydrake: cool. thanks Jan 01 23:31:43 <UndiFineD> Taglines: Jan 01 23:31:54 <UndiFineD> we already have a bunch Jan 01 23:32:00 <barrydrake> YES? Jan 01 23:32:01 <UndiFineD> need more Jan 01 23:32:33 <UndiFineD> and perhaps make a contest out of it Jan 01 23:32:38 <Billynkid> Agreed Jan 01 23:32:51 <Billynkid> Or brainstorm with people allowed to vote Jan 01 23:33:23 <moiso> and doodle the votation like with the logos Jan 01 23:33:29 <hakimsheriff> i could post up flyers around my neiborhood Jan 01 23:33:49 <UndiFineD> hakimsheriff: exactly my thought too Jan 01 23:34:14 <UndiFineD> and if needed I am willing to go door-to-door Jan 01 23:34:32 <barrydrake> 'people allowed to vote' .... I' me not sure about that. Jan 01 23:34:43 <Billynkid> My plan is to engage the local business community. ie. computer companies, Internet cafes Jan 01 23:35:50 <Billynkid> Do we want to discuss the taglines? Any favs Jan 01 23:35:58 <moiso> ok but plz go back to taglines Jan 01 23:36:30 <UndiFineD> ok, so we could make a contest for it, bringing in more ideas Jan 01 23:36:51 <UndiFineD> and select a few of the best Jan 01 23:37:09 <Billynkid> How many is enough? Jan 01 23:37:14 <Billynkid> 50 100? Jan 01 23:37:38 <jasono> 5 or 10 Jan 01 23:37:42 <jasono> Should be Jan 01 23:37:48 <jasono> 50 to 100 is too much Jan 01 23:37:56 <moiso> lets put a deadline and see how many get in Jan 01 23:38:01 <Billynkid> agreed Jan 01 23:38:09 <jasono> Billynkid I like the first, second, and the other one by Chris Winter. Jan 01 23:38:15 <jasono> Taglines Jan 01 23:38:19 <UndiFineD> I am thinking we should be able to get one for every release Jan 01 23:38:43 <Billynkid> make it a compo like the free culture showcase? Jan 01 23:38:55 <jasono> Cool. Yeah Jan 01 23:39:31 <Billynkid> in fact if the flyer ended up in the fcs would be cool too Jan 01 23:39:48 <Billynkid> so we make a presskit which people can use to promote ubuntu Jan 01 23:40:41 <Billynkid> Sorry off agenda. What deadline for tags Jan 01 23:41:35 <barrydrake> Sorry, I'm gfoimg Jan 01 23:41:42 <UndiFineD> well how about 4 weeks ? Jan 01 23:41:57 <UndiFineD> so, jan 29th ? Jan 01 23:42:05 <barrydrake> sorry, I Jan 01 23:42:05 <Billynkid> sounds good Jan 01 23:42:16 <UndiFineD> it is ok barrydrake Jan 01 23:42:19 <Emerling> o\ quetion... 15 or 29th? Jan 01 23:42:34 <moiso> 15 is too soon Jan 01 23:42:41 <Emerling> ok Jan 01 23:42:43 <Billynkid> I think two weeks isn't enough time Jan 01 23:42:47 <UndiFineD> next meeting is 15th, the one after 29th ? Jan 01 23:42:51 <Emerling> moiso, thanks Jan 01 23:43:04 <Emerling> UndiFineD, Jan 01 23:43:08 <Billynkid> Undifined: makes sense Jan 01 23:43:48 <UndiFineD> great Jan 01 23:43:54 <moiso> yep, we shouldn't delay it too much, remember is kind of the base for other materials
Script ideas
Jan 01 23:44:32 <UndiFineD> Script ideas: Jan 01 23:44:35 <barrydrake> Sorry, I'm going to bed. tomorrow, Jan 01 23:44:36 <jasono> Sorry about that. Jan 01 23:44:38 <jasono> again Jan 01 23:44:58 <jasono> Good night barrydrake Jan 01 23:45:16 <UndiFineD> it is a bit of the same as taglines, but more expansive Jan 01 23:45:17 <moiso> i have to leave too Jan 01 23:45:23 <Billynkid> night barry Jan 01 23:45:26 <moiso> sorry guys Jan 01 23:45:34 <Emerling> :D Jan 01 23:45:35 <UndiFineD> and could depend on a selected tagline too Jan 01 23:45:36 <jasono> By moiso Jan 01 23:45:36 <barrydrake> Night night Jan 01 23:45:45 <UndiFineD> ok moiso Jan 01 23:45:52 <Emerling> resume log send please list Jan 01 23:46:12 <UndiFineD> Emerling: always on the wiki :) Jan 01 23:46:19 <Emerling> thanks Jan 01 23:46:32 <Emerling> finished meeting? Jan 01 23:46:38 <Billynkid> Undifined: so should it follow the same timeline Jan 01 23:47:03 <UndiFineD> no, I want to give it a little room Jan 01 23:47:10 <jasono> UndiFineD http://paste.ubuntu.com/549389/ Jan 01 23:47:21 <jasono> *The ones I like. Jan 01 23:47:34 <Billynkid> Ok 3 months? Jan 01 23:48:02 <UndiFineD> well, I was thinking maybe 2 weeks more than the taglines Jan 01 23:48:09 <Billynkid> Ok Jan 01 23:48:23 <UndiFineD> by then the studio stuff could be more clear too Jan 01 23:48:46 <Billynkid> Are aiming to have everthing in place for 11.04? Jan 01 23:48:51 <UndiFineD> but it still uncertain Jan 01 23:48:52 <jasono> No Jan 01 23:49:00 <jasono> Unity Jan 01 23:49:28 <Billynkid> Are we planning to have anything in place for 11.04? Jan 01 23:49:32 <UndiFineD> Unity is still in the making, which makes it hard to use during an ad Jan 01 23:49:37 <Billynkid> true Jan 01 23:49:41 <Billynkid> so 10.10 Jan 01 23:50:07 <jasono> No Jan 01 23:50:19 <Billynkid> 10.04? Jan 01 23:50:34 <UndiFineD> jasono: are you on mobile agian ? Jan 01 23:50:35 <jasono> We're just going to make the advert, if we can use UNity then it will be droped into the advert. Jan 01 23:50:54 <jasono> UndiFineD no, sorry. Typos. Jan 01 23:51:05 <UndiFineD> most likely we need to use blue / or greenscreen anyway Jan 01 23:51:37 <Billynkid> So what is the process to get the script to final production Jan 01 23:51:40 <Billynkid> who pays Jan 01 23:51:53 <jasono> Donation money will be used.......... Jan 01 23:51:57 <UndiFineD> who pays depends on who sponsors Jan 01 23:52:06 <Billynkid> Do we have any connections with filmmakers Jan 01 23:52:16 <UndiFineD> we have some Jan 01 23:52:26 <UndiFineD> but not much Jan 01 23:52:52 <jasono> We have a talented Linux video editor though. Jan 01 23:53:05 <UndiFineD> wish stephen king would sponsor his render farm :P Jan 01 23:53:11 <jasono> jkeyes0<<or whatever the irc is Jan 01 23:53:11 <UndiFineD> dreamed about that Jan 01 23:53:20 <Billynkid> But are we aiming for that level of quality i.e. hiring someone who has experience filming adverts etc. Jan 01 23:53:22 <jasono> UndiFineD THat would be impossible! Jan 01 23:53:32 <UndiFineD> hey my dream Jan 01 23:53:49 <Billynkid> Or more community based stuff Jan 01 23:53:59 <Billynkid> i.e. best effort with a DV cam Jan 01 23:54:06 <Billynkid> an HD DV Cam ;-) Jan 01 23:54:12 <Emerling> 3d Jan 01 23:54:14 <Emerling> :D Jan 01 23:54:15 <Emerling> :P Jan 01 23:54:24 <Emerling> hahaha,.., jajaja Jan 01 23:54:36 <jasono> **Cough**Blender Jan 01 23:54:40 <Billynkid> I am always a little warry of 3D it has to be very very good Jan 01 23:54:42 <UndiFineD> for now I just want to see some results for what we can do Jan 01 23:55:09 <Emerling> blue lent and re film red len Jan 01 23:55:21 <Billynkid> ahhh Jan 01 23:55:24 <Emerling> distorcion and ready Jan 01 23:55:31 <Billynkid> sorry I thought you meant CGI 3D Jan 01 23:56:14 <Billynkid> It does sound though that we are ultimately aiming for TV/Film Jan 01 23:56:16 <UndiFineD> so I would say go out have sime fun and let the creativity flow Jan 01 23:56:26 <Billynkid> Or do we need to think about radio/audio too Jan 01 23:56:48 <Billynkid> Undifined: on ideas or the whole thing? Jan 01 23:56:54 <UndiFineD> JamesMR did some pretty professional voice-overs Jan 01 23:57:08 <UndiFineD> the whole thing, anything you do is good Jan 01 23:57:31 <UndiFineD> as it shows what can be done / thought of Jan 01 23:57:35 <Billynkid> Did you guys see the linux foundation advert comps Jan 01 23:58:22 <UndiFineD> I did not
any other business
Jan 01 23:58:46 <UndiFineD> any other business ? Jan 01 23:58:50 <Emerling> in Venezuela, have radio online and podscats Jan 01 23:59:01 <Billynkid> http://video.linux.com/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest Jan 01 23:59:21 <Billynkid> top row is the winner and two runners up Jan 01 23:59:36 <jasono> What are you suggesting Billynkid? Jan 01 23:59:47 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: couple of other items on the agenda Jan 01 23:59:48 <Billynkid> Linux Pub is great I use all three at the end of events to get a chuckle Jan 02 00:00:17 <UndiFineD> mattgriffin: ? Jan 02 00:00:19 <mattgriffin> i'd like to share a proposed process for future creative executions Jan 02 00:00:27 <Billynkid> ok Jan 02 00:00:34 <mattgriffin> so we can all collaborate more smoothly Jan 02 00:00:47 <UndiFineD> alright :) Jan 02 00:01:00 <mattgriffin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design#Process Jan 02 00:01:07 <Emerling> +1 mattgriffin Jan 02 00:01:35 <mattgriffin> this introduces the idea of Creative Briefs to the team Jan 02 00:01:44 <mattgriffin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design#Briefs Jan 02 00:02:42 <mattgriffin> there's a link to a template with a few questions Jan 02 00:03:26 <mattgriffin> anyone with an idea for an ad is welcome to grab the template and write a creative brief Jan 02 00:03:35 <jasono> mattgriffin DRopbox publix Jan 02 00:03:37 <jasono> Esier Jan 02 00:03:42 <jasono> Easier Jan 02 00:04:15 <jasono> Typo: Dropbox public Jan 02 00:04:25 <mattgriffin> jasono: or Ubuntu One published files ;) Jan 02 00:04:43 <mattgriffin> there are lots of Creative Brief samples available for various brands - http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=creative+brief Jan 02 00:04:45 <jasono> Sure. :P Jan 02 00:05:21 <mattgriffin> but having a brief to discuss should help us work faster and circulate more ideas Jan 02 00:06:00 <UndiFineD> yes, good stuff matt Jan 02 00:06:30 <mattgriffin> i've also reviewed all of the branding materials provided by the Canonical Design Team so this should help with writing briefs and setting the tone of any ad - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design#Brand Jan 02 00:07:13 <mattgriffin> there are still some questions that i have for the Canonical design team and some more work they have to do on the Ubuntu brand so this area will be evolving over the next few weeks Jan 02 00:07:40 <UndiFineD> thats alright Jan 02 00:07:50 <mattgriffin> finally i created a wiki page to capture what research projects are currently going on within the team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Research Jan 02 00:08:33 <mattgriffin> wasn't sure if you want to use this but i was having a bit of trouble keeping track of things in email messages and replies Jan 02 00:08:37 <Emerling> puedes capturar el proceso, en memoria con top o semejante? Jan 02 00:08:44 <Emerling> im sorry Jan 02 00:08:48 <Emerling> is other channel Jan 02 00:08:55 <mattgriffin> heh Jan 02 00:10:23 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: and that's all i have. any questions from anyone about this stuff? Jan 02 00:10:24 <UndiFineD> I understand mattgriffin, I had a bit of the same issue, as I spend a lot of time on Speech Control these past few weeks Jan 02 00:10:36 <Billynkid> Should to research focus on a default install Jan 02 00:10:41 <Billynkid> to keep the scope smaller Jan 02 00:12:04 <hakimsheriff> Is the meetinv over Jan 02 00:12:14 <UndiFineD> well research on windows users would be nice, but I have my doubts that no-one but doubting current windows users and linux advocates would fill its surveys Jan 02 00:13:48 <jasono> UndiFineD Dante told me there's some of that already. Canonical marketing Jan 02 00:13:54 <UndiFineD> so survey should at least log users browser agent too Jan 02 00:14:15 <jasono> hakimsheriff Long time, your welcome to leave if you like. Jan 02 00:14:35 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: Windows users are probably in-scope for who we want to target. review the "Targeting the communication" section at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdverts/Design#Brand and focus on the consumer problems that Ubuntu can solve. we had some great discussion about this type of stuff a few meetings ago. Jan 02 00:14:37 <jasono> mattgriffin Nice template structure. Jan 02 00:14:55 <mattgriffin> jasono: thanks Jan 02 00:15:43 <UndiFineD> alright Jan 02 00:16:01 <mattgriffin> UndiFineD: re-read your message... you have a good pointl Jan 02 00:16:34 * djhakim is now known as hakimsheriff Jan 02 00:16:54 <UndiFineD> one strong point is virusses Jan 02 00:17:01 <UndiFineD> it is the area to score Jan 02 00:17:04 <jasono> Repetition Jan 02 00:17:08 <mattgriffin> definitely Jan 02 00:17:22 <mattgriffin> ok. gotta go soon :) Jan 02 00:17:25 <jasono> This has been talked about for too long. Jan 02 00:17:31 <jasono> okey Jan 02 00:17:35 <UndiFineD> that is how I convinced most people to at least try it Jan 02 00:17:45 <hakimsheriff> me too Jan 02 00:18:00 <hakimsheriff> but no one accually tried it Jan 02 00:18:00 <mattgriffin> interesting. Jan 02 00:18:10 <jasono> All of this was already mentioned though. Jan 02 00:18:13 <UndiFineD> yes Jan 02 00:18:44 <mattgriffin> perhaps we should have a survey that focused on some of the problem areas to discover what has a higher priority over others ... or maybe this research already exists Jan 02 00:19:12 <hakimsheriff> not sure if it exists but it is a good idea Jan 02 00:19:44 <UndiFineD> hakimsheriff: for new people to absolutly try it is to install it for them and log them into it Jan 02 00:19:44 <mattgriffin> something that a linux, windows, or a mac user would feel comfortable/competent filling out Jan 02 00:19:48 <jasono> mattgriffin Explain please. Jan 02 00:19:49 <UndiFineD> and not log out Jan 02 00:19:56 <jasono> Don't get what you mean. Jan 02 00:20:10 <mattgriffin> jasono: so list 10 things that bother you about the computer you're using right now Jan 02 00:20:23 <Emerling> the new peopel, need know about where find suport, Jan 02 00:20:29 <Emerling> support comunity, Jan 02 00:20:32 <Emerling> internet Jan 02 00:20:33 <jasono> Aaaah No, no such survey exists. Jan 02 00:20:35 <Emerling> loco teams Jan 02 00:20:36 <Emerling> irc Jan 02 00:20:43 <jasono> XChat Jan 02 00:20:44 <jasono> jk Jan 02 00:20:46 <mattgriffin> jasono: might be that it's expensive, it gets viruses, it's difficult to use, ... Jan 02 00:20:54 <Emerling> and microblogins Jan 02 00:21:01 <Emerling> facebook twitter identica Jan 02 00:21:03 <hakimsheriff> keeps cradhing, slow Jan 02 00:21:09 <jasono> On Ubuntu Jan 02 00:21:18 <Emerling> locos team Jan 02 00:21:23 <mattgriffin> jasono: then give that list to 1000 people and ask each of them to rank the items in priority of highest to lowest importance to them Jan 02 00:21:35 <jasono> Awesome. Jan 02 00:21:52 <jasono> Do you want to work on it together? Jan 02 00:22:01 <UndiFineD> a 1000 ? I think 10.000 would be a proper goal Jan 02 00:22:02 <jasono> Live or Wiki Jan 02 00:22:07 <mattgriffin> jasono: heh... sure :) Jan 02 00:22:33 <jasono> Google Docs is good don't know if you use it. :P mattgriffin Jan 02 00:22:43 <Billynkid> and based on the results we can draw conclusions to help us target a advert/campaign Jan 02 00:22:50 <Billynkid> ? Jan 02 00:22:51 <UndiFineD> google does not save you the user agent Jan 02 00:23:04 <UndiFineD> yes Billynkid Jan 02 00:23:30 <mattgriffin> jasono: sure. start a doc and share it with 'me [at] mattgriffin [dot] com' Jan 02 00:23:54 <jasono> Okey, no problem. Jan 02 00:24:29 <mattgriffin> ok... gotta go get some food. UndiFineD: do you want to wrap up? Jan 02 00:24:44 <UndiFineD> i think we can close the meeting now Jan 02 00:24:50 <Billynkid> Ok Jan 02 00:24:50 <mattgriffin> cool Jan 02 00:24:56 <Emerling> +1 Jan 02 00:24:56 <mattgriffin> thanks everyone... great meeting Jan 02 00:25:00 <UndiFineD> thanks everyone for comming Jan 02 00:25:05 <Emerling> is my first mmeting Jan 02 00:25:13 <hakimsheriff> me too Jan 02 00:25:21 <hakimsheriff> i am new to the team Jan 02 00:25:22 <mattgriffin> Emerling: welcome to the team! :) Jan 02 00:25:27 <mattgriffin> and hakimsheriff too Jan 02 00:25:29 <Emerling> thank Jan 02 00:25:30 <hakimsheriff> thx Jan 02 00:25:35 <Emerling> very very work Jan 02 00:26:07 <hakimsheriff> do you have any posters that i could print aand put up around my neibourhood Jan 02 00:27:00 <mattgriffin> hakimsheriff: there are some materials that are available but they haven't been updated to be aligned with the official Ubuntu brand guidelines Jan 02 00:27:09 <Billynkid> hakimsheriff have a look at http://spreadubuntu.org Jan 02 00:27:23 <mattgriffin> hakimsheriff: and you may want to be aware of your local laws when it comes to putting up flyers ;) Jan 02 00:27:24 <hakimsheriff> okay i will thx Jan 02 00:27:35 <Billynkid> a lot of those posters are editable also Jan 02 00:28:20 <Billynkid> I found holding a stall somewhere public like a mall and handing out smaller flyers and dvd's works well Jan 02 00:28:55 <Billynkid> free dvd's work out very well, see if you can find a local business to sponser making 200 and handing them out Jan 02 00:29:12 <jasono> Sorry about that, XChat kicked me out. Jan 02 00:29:50 <jasono> We should also atleast try to get donations on our site ubuntuadverts.org Jan 02 00:29:56 <jasono> Most of these ideas require money. Jan 02 00:31:21 <Billynkid> Indeed but it might be easier once we have a specific idea+budget for idea Jan 02 00:31:31 <Billynkid> then we can have a fundraiser for it Jan 02 00:31:57 <jasono> Yeah. Have you seen the form though? Jan 02 00:33:31 <jasono> mattgriffin Email sent Jan 02 00:33:42 <mattgriffin> jasono: cool. got it. thanks Jan 02 00:34:39 <mattgriffin> jasono: doh! i just changed the title after you did. sorry :( Jan 02 00:34:58 <mattgriffin> jasono: please change it back ... heh Jan 02 00:35:50 <mattgriffin> ok.. i'm out. Jan 02 00:35:51 <Emerling> friends, i leave off Jan 02 00:35:59 <mattgriffin> jasono: i'll catch up with you later about the survey Jan 02 00:36:00 <jasono> mattgriffin Oh, np Jan 02 00:36:04 <Emerling> tnaks, happy new year Jan 02 00:36:23 <jasono> Okaey mattgriffin You can always find me on Google Talk Jan 02 00:36:31 <jasono> jasonodoom at google dot com Jan 02 00:36:33 <mattgriffin> jasono: cool Jan 02 00:37:08 <jasono> Thanks to everyone for not getting drunk. Jan 02 00:37:25 <jasono> UndiFineD Are you there? Jan 02 00:38:01 <UndiFineD> yes, I was making a coffee Jan 02 00:38:09 <jasono> Oh. Jan 02 00:38:16 <UndiFineD> and setting multilang xchat for my GF Jan 02 00:38:23 <jasono> :) Jan 02 00:38:28 <jasono> I read about her. Jan 02 00:38:48 <jasono> Dinner in a few, have to go, will be on Google Talk. Jan 02 00:38:50 <jasono> Bye Jan 02 00:38:56 <UndiFineD> ok