Wisconsin Meeting History - August 22nd, 2007

The meeting turned out to be a success! The meeting lasted about an 1.5 hours and the conclusions are below:

1. Regular Meeting Time Scheduling

• Meetings will occur on Wednesday's at 8:00 PM.
• Meetings will occur twice a month.
• Next meeting will occur on September 5th, 2007.

2. Wisconsin Wiki Discussion

• The consensus was that the Wiki layout was good.
• Everyone seemed to like a clean and simple layout.

• If you have suggestions or find areas that need fixing, please contact [https://launchpad.net/~ek0nomik Ek0nomik] or make the changes yourself.

3. Website & Launchpad Ideas

• This topic is going to be discussed more at the next meeting.
  • Agreement that website should be easy to update and low maintenance.
  • Agreement that website can act as a Wisconsin Ubuntu Loco News Blog.

4. Project Ideas in Wisconsin

• herteljt has [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=532570 created] a forum discussion where we can share project ideas.

• The group agreed that working with other Wisconsin LUGs would be beneficial.

• Having a Wisconsin [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Installfest InstallFest] was highly looked upon.

• Please contribute to the discussion on the forum for project ideas, and also start contacting existing Wisconsin LUGs for project ideas/collaboration.

5. Mailing List Ideas & Group Management

• uberushaximus will be handing the Mailing List and he has requested the administration information as of August 22nd, 2007.

• Ek0nomik will be acting as another contact individual for the Ubuntu LoCo Group.

Next Meeting : September 5th, 2007 - 8:00 PM

Thanks to everyone who participated! Hope to see everyone (and more) at the next meeting!

Log: {{{Aug 22 19:58:48 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Hey Doctor. Aug 22 19:58:49 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea i read thro it all Aug 22 19:58:59 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I figured we can give it 2 more minutes. Aug 22 19:59:00 <herteljt> are any of you near south western wi? Aug 22 19:59:01 <Th3_D0ct0R> hey ekonomic Aug 22 19:59:09 <herteljt> terrible with all the flooding Aug 22 19:59:10 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I thought uber was going to make it so I want to give him a few minutes. Aug 22 19:59:11 <Th3_D0ct0R> na im up here in the northern part Aug 22 19:59:18 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> hert: Madison. Aug 22 19:59:20 <Th3_D0ct0R> its only 8 Aug 22 19:59:28 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> A lot of our neighbors have had flooding. Aug 22 19:59:33 <herteljt> I heard that a few people were killed in madison today Aug 22 19:59:41 <herteljt> lighting hitting water Aug 22 19:59:43 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yep. Aug 22 19:59:49 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think it was a poll actually. Aug 22 19:59:52 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> that fell into the water. Aug 22 20:00:05 <Th3_D0ct0R> wow that sucks Aug 22 20:00:10 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus: you around? Aug 22 20:00:18 <uberushaximus> yup Aug 22 20:00:23 <uberushaximus> Greetings Aug 22 20:00:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> excellent. Aug 22 20:00:28 <uberushaximus> Welcome to our first meeting Aug 22 20:00:38 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Anyone know who Mike Putnam is? He added himself to the Wiki. Aug 22 20:00:41 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I was just wondering who he was. Aug 22 20:00:44 <herteljt> Glad to be here Aug 22 20:01:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Well, I have a rather lax agenda for us to discuss: Aug 22 20:01:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Regular Meeting Time Scheduling Aug 22 20:01:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Wisconsin Wiki Discussion Aug 22 20:01:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Website & Launchpad Ideas Aug 22 20:01:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Project Ideas in Wisconsin Aug 22 20:01:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Mailing List Ideas/Management Aug 22 20:01:36 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> So, we can begin withh 1: Regular Meeting Time. Aug 22 20:01:49 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Anyone think it will be possible for our group of people here? Aug 22 20:01:49 <uberushaximus> I can't necessarily make /every/ meeting, as I have a job Aug 22 20:01:58 <Th3_D0ct0R> umm a sec i gotta go nuke my food but ill be back Aug 22 20:02:06 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> lol, alright d0ct0R. Aug 22 20:02:12 <Th3_D0ct0R> jutalkin ill come back into the convo when im ready Aug 22 20:02:30 <herteljt> Evenings work best for me Aug 22 20:02:35 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uber: That's fine, I was just thinking a regular time for at least 3 people to be present. Aug 22 20:02:51 <herteljt> Tuesday is the only evening that won't work regularly Aug 22 20:02:52 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> herteljt: Same here, I will have lectures starting September 4. Aug 22 20:03:09 <uberushaximus> so that rules out tuesday Aug 22 20:03:20 <herteljt> Wednesday is good Aug 22 20:03:30 <MethodOne> that's good Aug 22 20:03:37 <herteljt> a nice middle of the week day Aug 22 20:04:13 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Wednesday will work for me too. Aug 22 20:04:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I have lab until 4:45, but that seems early enough anyways. Aug 22 20:04:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Wedneday nights? Aug 22 20:04:32 <uberushaximus> it worked this week Aug 22 20:05:11 <herteljt> When I was in college Wednesday evenings was the best day for meetings that is why I suggested it Aug 22 20:05:34 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> It will definitely work for me. Aug 22 20:05:43 <herteljt> Let's say Wednesday 8pm Aug 22 20:05:55 <MethodOne> ok Aug 22 20:05:56 <herteljt> as our #1 choice Aug 22 20:06:02 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think that should be fine. Let's just see what D0ct0R says. Aug 22 20:06:05 <uberushaximus> any objections? Aug 22 20:06:18 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Once more thing on the meeting topic... how many times a month? Aug 22 20:06:22 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> once, twice? Aug 22 20:06:42 <uberushaximus> why not bi or quadmonthly? Aug 22 20:06:53 <herteljt> it depends on what we are doing Aug 22 20:07:36 <herteljt> one advantage our little group has is that we have a message board which is checked regularly Aug 22 20:07:54 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> definitely. Aug 22 20:08:07 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I check it once a day at least. Aug 22 20:08:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus: You think twice a month? Aug 22 20:08:50 <uberushaximus> twice does seem more than enough for our priorities Aug 22 20:08:53 <uberushaximus> so sure Aug 22 20:09:00 <Th3_D0ct0R> i have church choir till 730-ish and then theres always socializing til like 745 so i should be able to make it at 8 maybe a lil later Aug 22 20:09:01 <herteljt> I would agree Aug 22 20:09:16 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I agree, I think twice could possibly even be more than enough for us. Aug 22 20:09:28 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I don't think our agenda would always be as large as this one. Aug 22 20:09:42 <herteljt> if anything regular meetings will keep us honest Aug 22 20:09:54 <herteljt> and on top of our resonsibilities Aug 22 20:09:59 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea something to chekc up on our prgress Aug 22 20:10:01 <herteljt> responsibilities Aug 22 20:10:11 <sgtd> Wednesday @ 8:00pm works for me too. Aug 22 20:10:18 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> hey sgtd. Aug 22 20:10:28 <sgtd> howdy Ek0nomik|Laptop , all. Aug 22 20:10:30 <herteljt> is someone acting as a recorder? Aug 22 20:10:33 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah. Aug 22 20:10:35 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I am logging. Aug 22 20:10:38 <herteljt> k Aug 22 20:10:41 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I will update the Wiki later tonight too. Aug 22 20:10:57 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> So, twice a month seems good for everyone? Aug 22 20:11:05 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea Aug 22 20:11:10 <MethodOne> ok Aug 22 20:11:15 <herteljt> sounds good Aug 22 20:11:46 * hoosfoos checks in Aug 22 20:11:50 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> alright. Aug 22 20:12:01 <herteljt> so the next scheduled meeting will be September 5th Aug 22 20:12:16 <herteljt> at 8pm Aug 22 20:12:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I'll put a reminder in my phone. Aug 22 20:12:23 <Th3_D0ct0R> second day of school fo me Aug 22 20:12:34 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Second day for everyone in Wisconsin I think. Aug 22 20:12:45 <herteljt> yes, our legislature made sure of that Aug 22 20:12:51 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> so our kids can work at the Dells. Aug 22 20:12:54 <herteljt> the private schools can start early Aug 22 20:12:58 <Th3_D0ct0R> oh yea Aug 22 20:13:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I wish I could get the Soup Nazi to say "Next!" after we finish every item on our agenda. Aug 22 20:13:32 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Wisconsin Wiki Discussion * Aug 22 20:13:42 <uberushaximus> good episode Aug 22 20:13:59 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I reworked the Wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam - if you haven't seen it) Aug 22 20:14:20 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I have uberushaximus and myself on the Member list. Any of you can add yourself at any time if you wish. Aug 22 20:15:20 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I don't know if any of you thought additional pages should be create, or something changed. Aug 22 20:15:23 <Th3_D0ct0R> it lookes good Aug 22 20:15:48 <herteljt> clean and simple Aug 22 20:15:51 <uberushaximus> that it does Aug 22 20:16:07 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> If anything comes to mind, just shoot me a message or clean up any messy errors I made. Aug 22 20:16:13 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> or just create a page if you wish. Aug 22 20:16:19 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea alrighty Aug 22 20:16:53 <uberushaximus> NEXT! Aug 22 20:16:58 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> lol. Aug 22 20:16:59 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Website & Launchpad Ideas * Aug 22 20:17:13 * Ek0nomik|Laptop personally doesn't use Launchpad very often at all. Aug 22 20:17:24 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> A website could be worthwhile though. Aug 22 20:17:30 * uberushaximus used to but has been drawn away from it Aug 22 20:17:37 * uberushaximus realizes he has a hat on Aug 22 20:17:52 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> life aquatic style? Aug 22 20:17:54 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> :P Aug 22 20:17:58 <herteljt> My questions would be: Aug 22 20:17:59 * uberushaximus is easily distracted Aug 22 20:18:05 <herteljt> 1) what is on the site? Aug 22 20:18:11 <herteljt> 2) who maintains the site? Aug 22 20:18:27 <uberushaximus> Ek0nomik already suggested to maintain Aug 22 20:18:41 <uberushaximus> did you not? Aug 22 20:19:04 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> herteljt: Honestly, I think #1 would be very similar to the Wiki. It would just look nicer. Aug 22 20:19:18 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> 2: I am looking for VERY low maintenance if we were to have one. Aug 22 20:19:20 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea and we could and a bunch of nifty little touches Aug 22 20:19:38 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I can maintain it, but keeping that in mind, I would keep everything VERY simple. Aug 22 20:19:43 <herteljt> Would it be for communication with people outside the group? Aug 22 20:19:51 <Th3_D0ct0R> yes and no Aug 22 20:19:53 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I would use Wordpress for "blogging" (updated), and then just throw a design together. Aug 22 20:19:58 <sgtd> could it be stated that wiki is for LoCo Team stuffs and Lanchpad site is primarily to attract/engage new Ubuntu users? Aug 22 20:20:00 <uberushaximus> why not be a portal newsblog? Aug 22 20:20:35 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus: You are saying the website could be a news blog? Aug 22 20:20:50 <uberushaximus> mhmm Aug 22 20:20:53 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sgtd: Do you think Launchpad makes for a good initial greeting to the group? Aug 22 20:20:57 * zombiechick wonders why there is a need for a distro-specific advocacy group... Aug 22 20:21:02 <uberushaximus> similar to planet.pidgin.im Aug 22 20:21:11 <sgtd> With Forums/Wiki/and Lanchpad, I forsee an unhealthy spread of un-updated resources. Aug 22 20:21:24 <sgtd> zombiechick: why not? Aug 22 20:21:47 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> zombiechick: You have an odd channel choice then. Aug 22 20:21:52 <zombiechick> sgtd: I have been an avocate of most distro's at one time or another... Aug 22 20:21:53 <sgtd> Linux! With a bias! Aug 22 20:21:55 <herteljt> zombiechick: Everyone has to start somewhere Aug 22 20:22:07 <herteljt> what a strange comment Aug 22 20:22:09 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sgtd: I absolutely agree, and that's why I am saying very low maintenance. Aug 22 20:22:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> The website would need to be *easy* to update. Aug 22 20:22:46 <herteljt> a blog would work nicely Aug 22 20:22:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I have setup my own blog w/ Wordpress. Aug 22 20:22:55 <zombiechick> I just wonder if all this energy would be better put into a distro-neutral Linux advocacy group Aug 22 20:23:15 <sgtd> Perhaps we could step back and assert what this LoCo is all about. Evangelize? Socialize? etc? Aug 22 20:23:16 * zombiechick will shut up now.. Aug 22 20:23:20 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> zombiechick: Getting someone interested in a single distro is enough to push them to another. Aug 22 20:23:33 <herteljt> I agree that is the point of the group Aug 22 20:23:44 <herteljt> try ubuntu and if you like it try something else Aug 22 20:24:22 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sgtd: The purpose of the LoCo is advocation and socialization imo. Aug 22 20:24:31 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Advocate while having fun. Aug 22 20:24:40 <herteljt> I think advocate Aug 22 20:25:14 * zombiechick is now known as zombiechick-here Aug 22 20:25:24 * zombiechick-here is now known as hereti1 Aug 22 20:25:35 <sgtd> i see my "membership" as an evangelical one, the social part will follow anyway. Aug 22 20:25:36 <hereti1> rofl... Aug 22 20:25:54 <herteljt> I also think evangelical Aug 22 20:26:04 <herteljt> but I don't see myself "pushing" others into it Aug 22 20:26:08 <uberushaximus> I think pushing ease of use and easy migration is a must Aug 22 20:26:12 * hereti1 is now known as zombiechick Aug 22 20:26:16 * Ek0nomik|Laptop agrees with uber. Aug 22 20:26:16 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea Aug 22 20:26:20 <herteljt> although I did change my mother's pc over Aug 22 20:26:24 <sgtd> !pushing, rather "making aware" Aug 22 20:26:33 <sgtd> My wife runs Ubuntu. Aug 22 20:26:50 <sgtd> My kids run Ubuntu (when they don't want to play Win-only games) Aug 22 20:26:56 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> My roomates now run Ubuntu, and my girlfriend will soon as well. Aug 22 20:27:05 <sgtd> I run Ubuntu for casual-use laptops Aug 22 20:27:44 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> primary distro? Aug 22 20:27:54 <herteljt> what were were talking about? Aug 22 20:27:56 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Ok, so, shall we put the website discussion off for another time? Aug 22 20:28:11 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> let the idea get chewed on a bit for the next meeting? Aug 22 20:28:18 <MethodOne> ok Aug 22 20:28:19 <sgtd> Whether or not advocacy is the primary goal of the LoCo, I would vote that the Launchpad be used primarily for that. Aug 22 20:28:52 <herteljt> yes, let's put it off for the next meeting Aug 22 20:29:16 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Project Ideas in Wisconsin * Aug 22 20:29:23 <sgtd> and the wiki for "Team" stuff. a la "point gramma to Launchpad, point techno-buddies interested in participating to wiki" Aug 22 20:30:15 <Th3_D0ct0R> what have other loco groups done? Aug 22 20:30:25 <sgtd> <shrug> Aug 22 20:30:31 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> many have websites if I am not mistaken. Aug 22 20:30:34 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> and launchpad as well. Aug 22 20:30:59 <Th3_D0ct0R> so they just encourage ppl to use ubuntu/linux? Aug 22 20:31:00 <sgtd> I can offer a subdomain of wisconsinlinux.org to the group. Aug 22 20:31:20 <sgtd> Th3_D0ct0R: but with Local relavence. Aug 22 20:31:20 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sgtd: Thanks for the offer. I think we should just chew on the idea for now. Aug 22 20:31:46 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> we can discuss the website more at the next meeting. Aug 22 20:31:52 <sgtd> <tabled> Aug 22 20:32:10 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus has control over the Launchpad. Aug 22 20:32:15 <herteljt> I agree with the gentlemen from wisconsin Aug 22 20:32:24 <uberushaximus> is there any changes needed? Aug 22 20:32:59 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Just a photo I think. Aug 22 20:33:05 <uberushaximus> of? Aug 22 20:33:07 <uberushaximus> the logo? Aug 22 20:33:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sure. Aug 22 20:33:30 <sgtd> herteljt: olz Aug 22 20:34:02 <herteljt> olz? Aug 22 20:34:11 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Does anyone have any initial project ideas for us to think about? Aug 22 20:34:15 <sgtd> multiple lol's perhaps Aug 22 20:34:24 <herteljt> oh Aug 22 20:34:51 <herteljt> here is one I had Aug 22 20:34:58 <herteljt> a setup day of some sort Aug 22 20:35:09 <sgtd> an installfest? Aug 22 20:35:13 <herteljt> yep Aug 22 20:35:26 <MethodOne> that would be good Aug 22 20:35:32 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yes, yes it would. Aug 22 20:35:47 <sgtd> could we leverage any regional LUG's? Aug 22 20:35:48 <herteljt> maybe we could advertise at different places and help people setup systems Aug 22 20:35:51 <uberushaximus> sgtd: would you be interested in seeing if we can work that into the wilug installfest? Aug 22 20:36:14 <sgtd> !wilug!! is having an installfest?! Aug 22 20:36:31 <uberushaximus> I assumed they would? Aug 22 20:36:33 <uberushaximus> :/ Aug 22 20:37:06 <sgtd> #wilug is very geographically diverse. Aug 22 20:37:15 <uberushaximus> are we not? Aug 22 20:37:35 <sgtd> yes. but #wilug hasn't done an installfest either Aug 22 20:37:59 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I don't think we can get any conclusions out of this yet. We need to communicate more with other LUG's in WI to set this up. Aug 22 20:38:04 <herteljt> should we contact wilug and maybe a few other lugs in wisconsin? Aug 22 20:38:23 <sgtd> yes. Aug 22 20:38:41 <herteljt> http://www.newlug.org/index.php/Main_Page#Linux_Links Aug 22 20:38:46 <herteljt> that is newlug Aug 22 20:38:53 <sgtd> I think existing LUGS may think it a bit of a waste of time. Aug 22 20:38:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah, we need to discuss with other LUG's more. Aug 22 20:38:57 <herteljt> north eastern wisconsin Aug 22 20:39:08 <sgtd> it would be tricky to get buy-in without being dismissed. Aug 22 20:39:26 <uberushaximus> launchpad logo'd Aug 22 20:39:28 <sgtd> http://wisconsinlinux.org has pretty full list of the groups in WI. Aug 22 20:39:35 <uberushaximus> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin Aug 22 20:40:23 <herteljt> well, how about this Aug 22 20:40:23 <sgtd> regardless, a healthy relationship with local LUG's can only be good. Aug 22 20:40:32 <herteljt> we plan an install fest Aug 22 20:40:33 <uberushaximus> sgtd: Indeed Aug 22 20:40:36 * Ek0nomik|Laptop agrees with sgtd. Aug 22 20:40:45 <herteljt> and invite them to participate Aug 22 20:41:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Ideally the install fest would be not in the Winter. :/ Aug 22 20:41:25 <uberushaximus> but, please, don't elt it become a my distro is better than yours Aug 22 20:41:29 <sgtd> and don't take it personally when you encounter skepticism Aug 22 20:41:32 <uberushaximus> *let Aug 22 20:41:39 <MethodOne> that would be good, but i don't want to drive an hour or two to get to the nearest lug. i live in howards grove (near sheboygan) Aug 22 20:42:07 <herteljt> I think we need to approach this from the standpoint that any linux is better than no linux Aug 22 20:42:12 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yep. Aug 22 20:42:33 <sgtd> yes. Aug 22 20:42:46 <uberushaximus> and not to get into any flamewars with other distro users Aug 22 20:42:56 <herteljt> from our conversation here and on the forum i don't think any of us feels that Ubuntu is the one, the only distro Aug 22 20:43:28 <uberushaximus> that's a good sentiment Aug 22 20:43:35 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yep. Aug 22 20:44:14 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Alright, another item to be chewed on and discussed later. Aug 22 20:44:21 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> We need to communicate with LUG's more. Aug 22 20:44:26 <herteljt> I don't think the install fest has to be in only one place (though it would be helpful to have more than one person for trouble shooting) Aug 22 20:44:33 <uberushaximus> mhmm Aug 22 20:44:47 <uberushaximus> multiple simultaneous installs Aug 22 20:44:54 <uberushaximus> in different locations Aug 22 20:45:55 <MethodOne> how can i advertise the install fest to current and new linux users in my area? Aug 22 20:46:09 <uberushaximus> We'll get to that Aug 22 20:46:11 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah. Aug 22 20:46:14 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> We can design posters. Aug 22 20:46:23 <uberushaximus> when it gets planned Aug 22 20:46:32 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah, we will get to it. Aug 22 20:46:33 <herteljt> I would talk to friends, put up things at the library, etc Aug 22 20:46:43 <uberushaximus> hopefully it won't be "Soon(tm)" Aug 22 20:46:51 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> lol Aug 22 20:47:09 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Mailing List Ideas/Management * Aug 22 20:47:11 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> is the last item. Aug 22 20:47:15 <herteljt> Another idea I had for a project Aug 22 20:47:25 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> er. sorry herteljt, go ahead. Aug 22 20:47:35 <herteljt> was to send letters to newspapers Aug 22 20:47:43 <herteljt> like letters to the editor Aug 22 20:47:51 <uberushaximus> well, that's possible Aug 22 20:47:59 <herteljt> we could draft up something together and submit it to papers Aug 22 20:48:18 <herteljt> it would include our group and links so that interested people can contact us Aug 22 20:48:49 * zombiechick thinks WiLoCo could make a boxed Ubuntu version available free through local retailers... Aug 22 20:48:56 <uberushaximus> that's plausible, however. it wouldn't reach a large audience Aug 22 20:49:12 <herteljt> I think that is a neat idea zombiechick Aug 22 20:49:17 <uberushaximus> and maybe localize it a bit Aug 22 20:49:22 <Th3_D0ct0R> yea that would be cool Aug 22 20:49:42 <zombiechick> maybe allow the retailer to make some profit... a handling charge... Aug 22 20:49:54 <herteljt> I guess I want to find other ways to contact people and let them know about linux Aug 22 20:50:00 <uberushaximus> we could ask canonical to fund that if it came to that Aug 22 20:50:22 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Myself and a few close friends at Eau Claire would help me advertise Ubuntu on the EC Campus. Aug 22 20:50:24 <herteljt> Whether through install fests or letters or whatever Aug 22 20:50:32 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I plan on doing something like that later this year. Aug 22 20:50:36 <herteljt> I miss EC Aug 22 20:50:47 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> heh. Aug 22 20:50:57 <herteljt> could we put an "ideas board" on the forum Aug 22 20:51:01 <MethodOne> shre Aug 22 20:51:03 <MethodOne> sure* Aug 22 20:51:10 <uberushaximus> herteljt: make one Aug 22 20:51:14 <herteljt> and throw out possible ideas for getting the word out? Aug 22 20:51:17 <herteljt> done and done Aug 22 20:51:23 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> sounds good. Aug 22 20:52:22 <Th3_D0ct0R> hahaha sorry funny story here....but my windoes machine wont start it freezes on start up :P Aug 22 20:52:35 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> it's a sign d0ct0R. Aug 22 20:52:36 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> :P Aug 22 20:52:36 <uberushaximus> We could order large amounts of CDs to place in public libraries Aug 22 20:52:45 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberu: That would require funding. Aug 22 20:52:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I don't think Canonical will fund that until we become recognized. Aug 22 20:53:00 <uberushaximus> right Aug 22 20:53:16 <uberushaximus> throwing it out there Aug 22 20:53:26 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah I know, it's a good idea too. Aug 22 20:54:24 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Shall we move onto the next item? Aug 22 20:54:53 <herteljt> yes Aug 22 20:54:59 <herteljt> I made a thread Aug 22 20:56:28 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> * Mailing List/Management * Aug 22 20:56:50 <herteljt> Do you mean management of the list? Aug 22 20:56:57 <herteljt> or management of this group? Aug 22 20:57:09 <herteljt> both should be discussed Aug 22 20:57:26 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> both. Aug 22 20:57:40 <uberushaximus> I never got the adminship for it Aug 22 20:58:17 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> dang. Aug 22 20:58:23 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> well, that's a problem. Aug 22 20:58:48 <herteljt> what does that mean? Aug 22 20:58:56 <herteljt> who is technically the admin? Aug 22 20:59:03 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> well, uberu should be. Aug 22 20:59:10 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> but apparently never got it when he created the group. Aug 22 20:59:23 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> so, nobody can approve subscribers or send out e-mails as far as I know. Aug 22 20:59:26 <herteljt> who has it then? Aug 22 20:59:37 <herteljt> does it default to someone? Aug 22 20:59:54 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think we just need to get it Aug 22 21:00:01 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> from whoever created them for the groups. Aug 22 21:00:14 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I didn't know uberu didn't have acess to it. Aug 22 21:00:16 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> *access Aug 22 21:00:44 <herteljt> how do we know who has it? Aug 22 21:00:57 <herteljt> uberushaximus: name is green when I log in Aug 22 21:01:10 <herteljt> I guess I thought that meant he was the admin on the forum Aug 22 21:01:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> he is a moderator of the forum. Aug 22 21:01:34 <Th3_D0ct0R> not of the mailing list tho Aug 22 21:01:40 <herteljt> opps, my mistake Aug 22 21:02:59 <uberushaximus> This I suppose would be an opportune time to ask the loco a question Aug 22 21:03:08 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus: Have you contacted the supposed administrators of it? Aug 22 21:03:09 <Th3_D0ct0R> k Aug 22 21:03:13 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi Aug 22 21:03:24 <uberushaximus> do you have any objections to a co-leadership by Ek0nomik? Aug 22 21:03:33 <herteljt> ubuntu-us-wi-owner@lists.ubuntu.com Aug 22 21:03:36 <Th3_D0ct0R> no Aug 22 21:03:57 <herteljt> it says that the list is run by Aug 22 21:04:07 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> scott something. Aug 22 21:04:10 <herteljt> scott@thunderpunch.net Aug 22 21:04:16 <uberushaximus> I think he runs all of the reserved ones Aug 22 21:04:26 <uberushaximus> it defaults to him Aug 22 21:04:34 <herteljt> so I guess we need to contact him and ask him for access Aug 22 21:04:34 <uberushaximus> I could be wrong Aug 22 21:04:43 <herteljt> has anyone subscribed to the mailing list? Aug 22 21:04:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I did. Aug 22 21:04:57 <uberushaximus> I have Aug 22 21:05:07 <herteljt> when I click on the archives it says nothing has been posted Aug 22 21:05:09 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> but who knows if any confirmations have been made. Aug 22 21:05:35 <MethodOne> i'm on the list Aug 22 21:06:23 <herteljt> well this is a pickle Aug 22 21:06:39 <herteljt> ok, Aug 22 21:06:50 <uberushaximus> not like anyone is mailing it Aug 22 21:06:52 <uberushaximus> Aug 22 21:06:54 <Th3_D0ct0R> i believe its a cucumber give it sum time and sum vinegar and then ull get a pickle Aug 22 21:06:54 <herteljt> I propose that one of us send an email to scott and ask for admin rights Aug 22 21:07:14 * Ek0nomik|Laptop agrees. Aug 22 21:07:18 <uberushaximus> I'll get on it, I guess Aug 22 21:07:45 <herteljt> sounds good to me Aug 22 21:08:12 <herteljt> speaking of management.... Aug 22 21:08:38 <herteljt> I think that we should appoint some contact people Aug 22 21:09:08 <uberushaximus> "I'd like to request the posistion of mailing list manager for ubuntu-wi-us so that the wisconsin loco can start using it." Aug 22 21:09:15 <uberushaximus> sufficient? Aug 22 21:09:34 <herteljt> yes Aug 22 21:09:39 <uberushaximus> Ek0? Aug 22 21:09:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I'll volunteer. Although i must say I would be more comfortable as a contact person after talking to some LUG's in WI. Aug 22 21:10:03 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberu: Sounds great. Aug 22 21:10:20 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> mostly incase an install fest question arrises. Aug 22 21:10:37 <herteljt> I nominate Ek0nomik for contact person Aug 22 21:10:48 <uberushaximus> herteljt: for what? Aug 22 21:11:13 <herteljt> wait, I might have gotten ahead of myself Aug 22 21:12:08 <herteljt> uberushaximus: I thought you were volunteering for mailing list manager Aug 22 21:12:19 <herteljt> was I wrong? Aug 22 21:12:30 <uberushaximus> nono, I just sent the request Aug 22 21:12:47 <herteljt> ahh, the joys of text communication Aug 22 21:12:49 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> lol. Aug 22 21:13:03 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Alright, we need a mailing list manager and an "icon" for contact. Aug 22 21:14:05 <herteljt> if uberushaximus wants the job my vote is behind him Aug 22 21:14:36 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> for both? Aug 22 21:14:37 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> one? Aug 22 21:14:45 <herteljt> for mailing list manager Aug 22 21:15:20 <herteljt> here I'll make it an "official" nomination Aug 22 21:15:34 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I am fine w/ that. Aug 22 21:15:34 <herteljt> I hereby nominate uberushaximus for the position of mailing list manager Aug 22 21:15:37 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> lol. Aug 22 21:15:47 <uberushaximus> ahah Aug 22 21:15:50 <uberushaximus> okay Aug 22 21:15:51 <herteljt> does anyone else want to chime in? Aug 22 21:15:54 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think an e-mail once a week could be good. Aug 22 21:16:02 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> or every other along with the meeting. Aug 22 21:16:13 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think we three may be the only survivors. :/ Aug 22 21:16:24 <herteljt> Th3_D0ct0R? Aug 22 21:16:29 <uberushaximus> Ek0nomik|Laptop: maybe with a transcript attached? Aug 22 21:16:30 <Th3_D0ct0R> yesuh? Aug 22 21:16:37 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uber: sounds good. Aug 22 21:16:47 <herteljt> just checking to see if you were monitoring Aug 22 21:16:56 <Th3_D0ct0R> sorry the batery in my keyboard died:( Aug 22 21:17:02 <hoosfoos> I've been reading along too Aug 22 21:17:14 <herteljt> why don't you just use your sonic screwdriver Aug 22 21:17:20 <uberushaximus> well, is there any more official business that needs to be taken care of? Aug 22 21:17:26 <Th3_D0ct0R> oh well its in the shop being repaired Aug 22 21:17:38 <Th3_D0ct0R> and its great to meet a nother doctor fan Aug 22 21:18:16 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberu: forum co-moderation? Aug 22 21:18:19 <herteljt> I think we need a contact person Aug 22 21:18:44 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> herteljt: I agree, we won't need it until we start advertising though. Aug 22 21:18:55 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I will nominate myself for the time being if nobody minds. Aug 22 21:19:10 <herteljt> I second your nomination Aug 22 21:19:19 <Th3_D0ct0R> haha ill trhow in a third Aug 22 21:19:20 <uberushaximus> well the "team contact" officially is me Aug 22 21:19:23 <uberushaximus> but sure Aug 22 21:19:29 <herteljt> oppsss Aug 22 21:19:37 <herteljt> I don't want to step on anyone's toes Aug 22 21:19:41 <uberushaximus> I don't see the harm Aug 22 21:19:52 <uberushaximus> just change it accordingly Aug 22 21:19:59 <uberushaximus> in the loco list Aug 22 21:20:43 <herteljt> great Aug 22 21:21:14 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> Change what? Aug 22 21:21:28 <uberushaximus> the team contact email Aug 22 21:21:32 <uberushaximus> and name Aug 22 21:21:34 <herteljt> with a group this small I don't think we need to worry about other positions (like a president or head hanco) Aug 22 21:21:44 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> uberushaximus: You will ask (is it matthew - the admin) of the ubuntu forums? Aug 22 21:21:51 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> yeah, we are fine herteljt. Aug 22 21:22:00 <herteljt> but it may be something we need to consider in the future Aug 22 21:22:11 <uberushaximus> Ek0nomik|Laptop: in reguards to what? ... oh Aug 22 21:22:13 <uberushaximus> it's ryan Aug 22 21:22:17 <uberushaximus> ubuntgeek Aug 22 21:22:21 <uberushaximus> er Aug 22 21:22:23 <uberushaximus> ubuntugeek Aug 22 21:23:37 <herteljt> ok Aug 22 21:23:55 <herteljt> is there anything we should try and brainstorm/workon/thinkabout for the next meeting? Aug 22 21:24:06 <uberushaximus> anything you have in mind? Aug 22 21:24:08 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> you'll send one uberu? Aug 22 21:24:15 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I think working with LUG's will be something. Aug 22 21:24:17 <uberushaximus> yeah I'll do it this time Aug 22 21:24:18 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> website may also be something. Aug 22 21:24:22 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> and project ideas. Aug 22 21:25:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I will post the conclusions and the transcript later this evening. Aug 22 21:25:50 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> and let me know what ubuntugeek says Uber. Aug 22 21:26:02 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> I will create a conclusions thread as well. Aug 22 21:26:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> But, I need to run. So, have a good evening everyone. It was good to finally discuss some ideas. Aug 22 21:26:22 <Th3_D0ct0R> alrighty Aug 22 21:26:32 <herteljt> have a nice evening Aug 22 21:26:37 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> And I hope I get to talk to all of you on Sept 5th. Aug 22 21:26:39 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> and before then. Aug 22 21:26:40 <herteljt> type you on the 5th Aug 22 21:27:07 <uberushaximus> Ek0nomik|Laptop: sent, finally Aug 22 21:27:09 <uberushaximus> Aug 22 21:27:10 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> if any of you want to reach me just shoot me a PM on IRC or the forum. Aug 22 21:27:14 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> haha, alright. Aug 22 21:27:19 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> or send me an e-mail. Aug 22 21:27:27 <Th3_D0ct0R> ok Aug 22 21:28:46 <Ek0nomik|Laptop> gn. Aug 22 21:28:53 <herteljt> later all Aug 22 21:29:30 <Th3_D0ct0R> later}}}