20091104

General Agenda Items and Proposals

PLEASE COME TO THE MEETINGS PREPARED.

This means:

  1. If there is an issue for the team, add it to the agenda.
  2. Agenda items then should be discussed "informally" on #ubuntufourms-beginners. 90 % of the discussion should have taken place before the meeting.
  3. Meetings are primarily for decision making/team votes. Read the agenda and discuss your thoughts before the meeting. 10 % (or less) of the discussion should happen during the meeting.
  4. Agenda items that require more then 5 minutes of discussion may need to be deferred.

Who

What

Bodsda

Is there an interest in a Beginners team forum?

Bodsda

Have an -offtopic channel for banter and keep the main channel for support, proposal

Saj0577

Support from people with a second/third language

starcraft.man

Unified Newsletter (email) idea for the FGs.

Rocket2DMn

Wiki FG leadership transfer

nhandler

Require Padawans to subscribe to mailing list

Silver_Fox

IRC FG members please fill in this poll

Agenda discussion

  • Security Focus Group - new page, launchpad team, mission summary

Log

   1 [00:00] <bodhi_zazen> people ready for the BT meeting ?
   2 [00:00] <nhandler> Yep
   3 [00:00] <sblunix> aye
   4 [00:00] <Silver-Fox-> Yes.
   5 [00:00] <bodhi_zazen> #startmeeting
   6 [00:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:00. The chair is bodhi_zazen.
   7 [00:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
   8 [00:00] <bodhi_zazen> Ah, perfect timing =)
   9 [00:00] <bodhi_zazen> [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
  10 [00:00] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings
  11 [00:00] <bodhi_zazen> Agenda # 1 Forums ?
  12 [00:01] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: you here
  13 [00:01] <sblunix> Forums sounds acceptable
  14 [00:01] <bodhi_zazen> Alrighty then ...
  15 [00:01] <ZachK_> meeting?
  16 [00:02] <sblunix> Yes
  17 === WikiNinja is now known as starcraftman
  18 [00:02] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda approached me about the possibility for a team forums a few weeks ago
  19 [00:02] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: ok
  20 [00:02] <starcraftman> I r here, just munching pizza.
  21 [00:02] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: is that a topic?
  22 [00:02] <sblunix> bodhi_zazen, mmhhmmm
  23 [00:02] <bodhi_zazen> as it so happened I was testing forums software anyways, so I set up a few test servers, which I think a few of you all looked at
  24 [00:03] <sblunix> Weren't you having troubles?
  25 [00:03] <bodhi_zazen> so, the question is, does the team wish to use a forums ?
  26 [00:03] <sblunix> I vote yes.
  27 [00:03] <ZachK_> save sblunix for last....yes FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
  28 [00:03] <sblunix> ZachK_, say what?
  29 [00:03] <Silver-Fox-> I ask for what purpose.  Is it to replace the wiki?
  30 [00:03] <bodhi_zazen> No real purpose =)
  31 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> The point would be:
  32 [00:04] <sblunix> Silver-Fox-, The Wiki is more of an informational place. The forums would be a more solid communicational place other than IRC.
  33 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> 1. some people can learn sys admin as I will teach them
  34 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> 2. Would it improve communication ? Not everyone seems to prefer the mailing list(s)
  35 [00:04] <sblunix> I believe it would, I prefer forums much over mailing lists...
  36 [00:04] <bodhi_zazen> and a forums keeps topics / conversations nice and neat
  37 [00:05] <Joeb454> I don't think I'd use it, personally
  38 [00:05] <nhandler> Do we really need an entire forum for the team? We already have a section on ubuntuforums.org
  39 [00:05] <Joeb454> I remember when we had the team forum on UF, that never really got used a whole lot
  40 [00:05] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Joeb454
  41 [00:05] <Silver-Fox-> Nobody uses the team group on ubuntuforums.org ,  will this be any different ?
  42 [00:06]  * sblunix did not know about the team group on ubuntuforums.org
  43 [00:06] <nhandler> I personally think we should make use of the mailing list and IRC channels instead of a separate forum
  44 [00:06] <drs305> +1
  45 [00:06] <Silver-Fox-> +1
  46 [00:06] <PabloRubianes> +1
  47 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> do you all want to vote on this ?
  48 [00:07] <sblunix> It doesn't seem many people use the mailing list either though, unless I'm just not part of it...
  49 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> or table the discussion ?
  50 [00:07] <sblunix> table the discussion?
  51 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> no, mailing list is quiet
  52 [00:07] <sblunix> bodhi_zazen, probably because I fail at mailing lists and don't know how to use them...
  53 [00:07] <bodhi_zazen> table meaning, no forms , the end =)
  54 [00:08] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: Let's vote on this so we can have a clear decision.
  55 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] BT forums ?
  56 [00:08] <MootBot> Please vote on:  BT forums ?.
  57 [00:08] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
  58 [00:08] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
  59 [00:08] <nhandler> -1
  60 [00:08] <MootBot> -1 received from nhandler. 0 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1
  61 [00:08] <Joeb454> -1
  62 [00:08] <PabloRubianes> -1
  63 [00:08] <MootBot> -1 received from Joeb454. 0 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2
  64 [00:08] <MootBot> -1 received from PabloRubianes. 0 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -3
  65 [00:08] <sblunix> +1
  66 [00:08] <MootBot> +1 received from sblunix. 1 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2
  67 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> +0
  68 [00:08] <MootBot> Abstention received from bodhi_zazen. 1 for, 3 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now -2
  69 [00:08] <Silver-Fox-> +0
  70 [00:08] <MootBot> Abstention received from Silver-Fox-. 1 for, 3 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -2
  71 [00:08] <drs305> -1
  72 [00:08] <MootBot> -1 received from drs305. 1 for, 4 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now -3
  73 [00:08] <starcraftman> I am neutral on this, I just don't see a real need.
  74 [00:08] <starcraftman> +0
  75 [00:08] <MootBot> Abstention received from starcraftman. 1 for, 4 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -3
  76 [00:08] <Buuntu1> +1
  77 [00:08] <MootBot> +1 received from Buuntu1. 2 for, 4 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now -2
  78 [00:08] <bodhi_zazen> Any additional votes ?
  79 [00:09] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
  80 [00:09] <MootBot> Final result is 2 for, 4 against. 3 abstained. Total: -2
  81 [00:09] <sblunix> Oh well, idea tabled...
  82 [00:09] <sblunix> 2nd order of business?
  83 [00:09] <bodhi_zazen> Bodsda: is not here
  84 [00:09] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] -offtopic channel ?
  85 [00:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  -offtopic channel ?
  86 [00:09] <bodhi_zazen> is our whole channel not off topic ???
  87 [00:10] <Joeb454> who suggested the channel?
  88 [00:10] <Silver-Fox-> I don't understand the need for another off topic channel.
  89 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> anyone want to discuss this agenda item >
  90 [00:10] <Joeb454> I think the current channel is fine
  91 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> I woudl say -1 , I think we have enough channels
  92 [00:10] <sblunix> I thought #ubuntu-beginners-help was the channel to help beginners, and #ubuntu-beginners was the team's off-topic/communication channel
  93 [00:10] <Silver-Fox-> +1 Joeb454
  94 [00:10] <sblunix> +1 Joeb454 bodhi_zazen
  95 [00:10] <PabloRubianes> +1
  96 [00:10] <Buuntu1> bodhi_zazen, I agree, #ubuntu-beginners is already pretty off-topic, I don't see the need for a whole separate channel
  97 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] Add another channel ???
  98 [00:10] <Joeb454> I think the current channel serves well as a general "chat" channel
  99 [00:10] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Add another channel ???.
 100 [00:10] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 101 [00:10] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
 102 [00:10] <bodhi_zazen> -1
 103 [00:10] <MootBot> -1 received from bodhi_zazen. 0 for, 1 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -1
 104 [00:10] <sblunix> -1
 105 [00:10] <Joeb454> -1
 106 [00:10] <MootBot> -1 received from Joeb454. 0 for, 2 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -2
 107 [00:10] <Silver-Fox-> -1
 108 [00:10] <Buuntu1> -1
 109 [00:11] <MootBot> -1 received from sblunix. 0 for, 3 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -3
 110 [00:11] <nhandler> -1
 111 [00:11] <starcraftman> I dunno, was the point to make ubuntu-beginners into more serious support channel, scrap help and make new "hang out " channel.
 112 [00:11] <MootBot> -1 received from Silver-Fox-. 0 for, 4 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -4
 113 [00:11] <MootBot> -1 received from Buuntu1. 0 for, 5 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -5
 114 [00:11] <PabloRubianes> -1
 115 [00:11] <MootBot> -1 received from nhandler. 0 for, 6 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -6
 116 [00:11] <MootBot> -1 received from PabloRubianes. 0 for, 7 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now -7
 117 [00:11] <starcraftman> Just saying.
 118 [00:11] <bodhi_zazen> Any additional votes ?
 119 [00:11] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
 120 [00:11] <MootBot> Final result is 0 for, 7 against. 0 abstained. Total: -7
 121 [00:11] <sblunix> Well, I think we should just emphasize #ubuntu-beginners-help as a help channel, and keep #ubuntu-beginners as our team channel
 122 [00:11] <starcraftman> Also, don't go so fast, I'm munching food here, takes my hands to eat.
 123 [00:11] <bodhi_zazen> Saj0577 is not here ...
 124 [00:12] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Unified Newsletter (email) idea for the FGs.
 125 [00:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Unified Newsletter (email) idea for the FGs.
 126 [00:12] <Buuntu1> ubuntu-beginners-help has been pretty inactive recently
 127 [00:12] <bodhi_zazen> starcraftman: poke =)
 128 === keffie_jayx_ is now known as keffie_jayx
 129 [00:12] <Silver-Fox-> Put the piza down starcraftman =]
 130 [00:12] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, darn it I said slower!
 131 [00:12] <sblunix> Newsletters for the Focus Groups?
 132 [00:12] <ZachK_> +1
 133 [00:12] <sblunix> Who would take the time to write them? Focus Group Heads?
 134 [00:12] <stlsaint> sblunix: psst psst, we dont vote yet!! :D
 135 [00:13] <bodhi_zazen> Shall we go to rocket and come back to you starcraftman ?
 136 [00:13] <starcraftman> THe idea originally occured to me during the wiki fg meeting last week. Was just an idea to help promote events related to fgs. i.e. for wiki group to promote certain pages or maybe some sort of wiki related thing.
 137 [00:13] <sblunix> stlsaint: psst, whoops, meh, I don't think anyone minds, my ideas are as good as anyones, I'm sure the team wouldn't mind my feedback
 138 [00:13] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, nar, I'm noming in between typing.
 139 [00:13] <ZachK_> sblunix: slow down buddy....
 140 [00:14] <nhandler> One suggestion I had about this was that instead of having a separate newsletter, FGs could simply add news to the BT team report. That way, the team and the entire Ubuntu community would be able to see it
 141 [00:14] <bodhi_zazen> How about if we roll the news letter idea into a team reports ?
 142 [00:14] <sblunix> +1
 143 [00:14] <bodhi_zazen> what nhandler said
 144 [00:14] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi_zazen, please proceed, ill be back in a min
 145 [00:15] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, sounds acceptable, I didn't really have a super strong opinion. Was just an idea.
 146 [00:15] <starcraftman> Rocket2DMn, make it fast min, your up next and we moving at light speed.
 147 [00:15] <ZachK_> sounds like an excellent idea...
 148 [00:15] <bodhi_zazen> It is a good idea, I think beefing up the monthly report would suffice =)
 149 [00:15] <sblunix> I think that adding FG sections to the BT is a super-great idea :)
 150 [00:15] <nhandler> I would be glad to help any FG leader add their news to the Team Report if they want.
 151 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> nhandler: you ready ?
 152 [00:16] <nhandler> Sure
 153 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Require Padawans to subscribe to mailing list
 154 [00:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Require Padawans to subscribe to mailing list
 155 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> can we require this ?
 156 [00:16] <bodhi_zazen> or strongly suggest =)
 157 [00:16] <sblunix> Well, are all members subscribed?
 158 [00:16] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: strongly suggest
 159 [00:16] <nhandler> As most of you know, we are currently moving from lists.launchpad.net to lists.ubuntu.com
 160 [00:16] <starcraftman> I added it to the join us page, so it is maditory.
 161 [00:16] <sblunix> I mean, as a Padawan I subscribed to the mailing lists...
 162 [00:16] <Silver-Fox-> This is about non members sblunix,  the Padawan
 163 [00:17] <nhandler> lists.ubuntu.com has the benefit of allowing any user to subscribe to the mailing list, something LP did not allow
 164 [00:17] <ZachK_> If i may speak?
 165 [00:17] <starcraftman> I took care to note list is for members and nonmembers.
 166 [00:17] <nhandler> All BT members should be subscribed to the mailing list, and I will be hunting any non-subscribers down over the next few weeks ;)
 167 [00:17] <sblunix> Silver-Fox-, Well, I'm saying that if non-members are required to subscribe to the mailing list, why are members allowed to choose if they will or won't subscribe to the mailing list?
 168 [00:18] <nhandler> I would like to propose that as part of the new member process, masters ensure that their padawans subscribe to the mailing list.
 169 [00:18] <ZachK_> +1 nhandler
 170 [00:18] <nhandler> sblunix: All members should be subscribed.
 171 [00:18] <PabloRubianes> +1
 172 [00:18] <sblunix> +1 nhandler
 173 [00:18] <sblunix> nhandler, Well, that was my question.
 174 [00:18] <nhandler> I will be taking care of getting all members subscribed. It will just take some time
 175 [00:18] <starcraftman> sblunix, why would people choose not to be on list, not like the list used to spy on people.
 176 [00:19] <sblunix> starcraftman, That's not the point, I was asking if All members were required to subscribe... maybe some ppl just aren't cool...
 177 [00:19] <nhandler> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-beginners
 178 [00:19] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-beginners
 179 [00:19] <nhandler> You can subscribe to the mailing list at the link above
 180 [00:20] <sblunix> so...
 181 [00:20] <bodhi_zazen> I am very neutral on this topic, the mailing list is not very active and
 182 [00:20]  * bodhi_zazen hates requirements =)
 183 [00:20] <starcraftman> sblunix, Well I assumed new mail list subscription was completely manditory, I put it on the paddy join page. Simple enough to do. And who's not cool that uses linux, HUH?
 184 [00:20] <ZachK_> +1 starcraftman
 185 [00:20] <sblunix> +1
 186 [00:20] <ZachK_> ok...next topic?
 187 [00:20] <Joeb454> I think it would be nice if the padawans were on the list, so I'd say encourage padawans, and require members :)
 188 [00:20] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Joeb454
 189 [00:20] <sblunix> +1 Joeb454
 190 [00:20] <dvz-> bodhi_zazen: i agree with bodhi_zazen ...if it's not very active...are we trying to bring forth more "clutter" of things because we think they _may_ be used?
 191 [00:21] <nhandler> Joeb454: I think Padawans should be required to subscribe by the time they are nominated for membership
 192 [00:21] <dvz-> and in which case, who does the work ultimately end up falling upon when we deem it "necessary" or "implement it"?
 193 [00:21] <ZachK_> +1 Joeb454 and bodhi_zazen
 194 [00:21] <starcraftman> I just wish list was a bit more active, you have point bodhi_zazen . Does feel too quiet. Like calm before an alien invasion.
 195 [00:21] <sblunix> dvz-, I *will* use them, I mean... Since the forums are tabled, mailing lists will be a big part of how I communicate to the BT
 196 [00:21] <Joeb454> nhandler: that sounds reasonable :)
 197 [00:21] <bodhi_zazen> LOL starcraftman
 198 [00:21] <sblunix> starcraftman, the alien invasion is soon
 199 [00:21] <nhandler> And the list does have activity. People really should use it more for agenda item discussions
 200 [00:21] <Joeb454> starcraftman: start an email then
 201 [00:22] <ZachK_> I would use the list...i'm just unsure how to...
 202 [00:22] <Joeb454> I've recently changed my list subscriptions to gmail so I can reply from my phone when I'm out :)
 203 [00:22] <starcraftman> Joeb454, egad! Brilliant!
 204 [00:22] <sblunix> ZachK_: same issue here, do I just send an e-mail to some sort of e-mail address?
 205 [00:22] <Silver-Fox-> Correct
 206 [00:22] <ZachK_> sblunix: i don't know....ask
 207 [00:22] <sblunix> What's the beginners team mailing list e-mail address?
 208 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] mailing list - encourage padawan require members =)
 209 [00:22] <MootBot> Please vote on:  mailing list - encourage padawan require members =).
 210 [00:22] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 211 [00:22] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
 212 [00:22] <nhandler> ZachK_ and sblunix: You simply send a message to ubuntu-beginners@lists.ubuntu.com
 213 [00:22] <Silver-Fox-> +1
 214 [00:22] <MootBot> +1 received from Silver-Fox-. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 215 [00:22] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 216 [00:22] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 217 [00:22] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 218 [00:22] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 219 [00:22] <Joeb454> +1
 220 [00:22] <MootBot> +1 received from Joeb454. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 221 [00:23] <PabloRubianes> +1
 222 [00:23] <dvz-> 0
 223 [00:23] <MootBot> +1 received from PabloRubianes. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 224 [00:23] <starcraftman> +1
 225 [00:23] <MootBot> +1 received from starcraftman. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
 226 [00:23] <MootBot> Private +1 vote received. 7 for, 0 against, 0 have abstained. Count is now 7
 227 [00:23] <ZachK_> +1
 228 [00:23] <MootBot> +1 received from ZachK_. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8
 229 [00:23] <nhandler> +1
 230 [00:23] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 9 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 9
 231 [00:23] <dvz-> +0
 232 [00:23] <MootBot> Abstention received from dvz-. 9 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 9
 233 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> Any additional votes ?
 234 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
 235 [00:23] <MootBot> Final result is 9 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 9
 236 [00:23] <Joeb454> sblunix: ubuntu-beginners@lists.ubuntu.com is the address I believe
 237 [00:23] <nhandler> Although I do think it would be easier to shift the requirement to being subscribed by the time you are nominated for membership ;)
 238 [00:23] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn: your up =)
 239 [00:23] <nhandler> Correct Joeb454
 240 [00:23] <starcraftman> sblunix, and ZachK_ , please see the link nhandler provided up top. To use the list ya first get added, then send to > ubuntu-beginners@lists.ubuntu.com.  The list is open, so ya can send even without being subscirbed but then ya wouldn't get anything back.
 241 [00:24] <Rocket2DMn> cool, sorry I'm late guys, I just walked in the door
 242 [00:24] <Joeb454> nhandler: we can leave that down to the masters :)
 243 [00:24] <starcraftman> Rocket2DMn, Your just on time, as always. Except I didn't say your name this time.
 244 [00:24] <sblunix> starcraftman: I've already added myself
 245 [00:24] <ZachK_> starcraftman: sent in request
 246 [00:24] <nhandler> starcraftman: If you are not subscribed, I need to moderate the message firs t;)
 247 [00:24] <Rocket2DMn> I just wanted to let the team know that starcraftman is now in charge of the Wiki FG, I stepped down a few weeks ago.
 248 [00:24] <starcraftman> sblunix, k then, just send to that link.
 249 [00:24] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC]Wiki FG leadership transfer
 250 [00:24] <MootBot> New Topic: Wiki FG leadership transfer
 251 [00:24] <Silver-Fox-> All hail starcraftman
 252 [00:25] <stlsaint> W00T Silver-Fox-
 253 [00:25] <Rocket2DMn> Group members approved of starcraftman for leadership, so he's the go-to guy now :)
 254 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> Rocket2DMn: =0
 255 [00:25] <stlsaint> oopps W00T starcraftman
 256 [00:25]  * starcraftman dons his space suit crown.
 257 [00:25] <ZachK_> +1 FOR STARCRAFTMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
 258 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> w00t starcraftman =)
 259 [00:25]  * starcraftman waves to wiki subjects.
 260 [00:25] <Rocket2DMn> Of course, I'll still be around and participating, I wanted to give somebody else a chance and hopefully free up some more time for myself
 261 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> thank you Rocket2DMn for your previous work
 262 [00:25] <ZachK_> where is Saj0577?
 263 [00:25] <bodhi_zazen> your time and energy is greatly appreciated
 264 [00:25] <starcraftman> ZachK_, Zergs got him clearly.
 265 [00:25] <Joeb454> +1 bodhi_zazen - the summer of documentation was always good
 266 [00:25] <Rocket2DMn> Sure thing, and btw, starcraftman is also on the ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins team now, too
 267 [00:26] <ZachK_> starcraftman: evidently
 268 [00:26] <Silver-Fox-> I really enjoyed the Summer.
 269 [00:26] <Rocket2DMn> so congrats to starcraftman :)
 270 [00:26] <nhandler> o/
 271 [00:26]  * sblunix applauds
 272 [00:26] <starcraftman> Yup. Anyone need admining I can help, though still not used my power much.
 273 [00:26] <bodhi_zazen> w00t - another step in BT world domination ?
 274 [00:26] <Rocket2DMn> lol thank you thank you, i accept donations ...
 275 [00:26] <starcraftman> Can't be tempted.....
 276 [00:26] <Rocket2DMn> no j/k, go ahead nhandler
 277 [00:26] <sblunix> next topic?
 278 [00:26] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, I can't comment one way or the other on that question.
 279 [00:26] <nhandler> I just want to mention that duanedesign has also taken over the LP FG
 280 [00:26] <bodhi_zazen> Next topic will be --- New Members ---
 281 [00:27] <ZachK_> I believe the next topic is new members
 282 [00:27] <Silver-Fox-> Hey,  I think I have been missed
 283 [00:27] <ZachK_> [New Members]
 284 [00:27] <Rocket2DMn> man you werent kidding when you said we're flying
 285 [00:27] <Silver-Fox-> I have an item
 286 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC]New Members
 287 [00:27] <MootBot> New Topic: New Members
 288 [00:27]  * sblunix believes Silver-Fox- has an item
 289 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> Silver-Fox-: after new members ?
 290 [00:27] <Silver-Fox-> No
 291 [00:27] <ZachK_> bodhi_zazen: Silver-Fox- its before
 292 [00:27] <bodhi_zazen> ok, if you instist
 293 [00:27] <Silver-Fox-> Before. No matter though
 294 [00:27] <starcraftman> Hehe
 295 [00:28] <Silver-Fox-> No,  carry on
 296 [00:28] <Silver-Fox-> =]
 297 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> >_<
 298 [00:28] <starcraftman> hahaha
 299 [00:28] <sblunix> .....
 300 [00:28]  * ZachK_ chuckles
 301 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> lets See ....
 302 [00:28]  * sblunix ...
 303 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> stlsaint: poke =)
 304 [00:28] <stlsaint> ohai
 305 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> who's your master ?
 306 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> lol
 307 [00:28] <stlsaint> lol
 308 [00:28] <dvz-> lol
 309 [00:28] <bodhi_zazen> stlsaint: has gone the dark path =)
 310 [00:28] <starcraftman> What? Someone talking? Who's that over there.
 311 [00:28] <Silver-Fox-> Interesting...
 312 [00:28] <ZachK_> stlsaint: is think it's his time to join us....
 313 [00:28] <stlsaint> starcraftman: :P
 314 [00:29] <ZachK_> stlsaint: CHOOSE THE SITH!!!!!
 315 [00:29]  * sblunix is slightly worried
 316 [00:29] <dvz-> choose the red pill...
 317 [00:29] <bodhi_zazen> stlsaint: is a fast learner and about as geeky as they come
 318 [00:29] <dvz-> or the blue pill.
 319 [00:29] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: :D
 320 [00:29] <Silver-Fox-> Hmm rasberry
 321 [00:29] <bodhi_zazen> stlsaint: tell the rest of the team a little about yourself, wiki page ?
 322 [00:30] <bgs100> dvz-, The purple pill! /me finds xkcd comic link
 323 [00:30] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stlsaint
 324 [00:30] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stlsaint
 325 [00:30] <stlsaint> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/stlsaint
 326 [00:30] <stlsaint> hi team
 327 [00:30] <ZachK_> stlsaint: welcome...hehehe
 328 [00:31] <sblunix> stlsaint, Quick Question:
 329 [00:31] <sblunix> What does the "stl" in your name stand for?
 330 [00:31] <stlsaint> i started using ubunt this year, found my way to UA then BT and been a paddy for about hmm,, few months, (Senior Paddy!!)
 331 [00:31] <duanedesign> i think stlsaint is a dedicated contributer to the team and community at large. He will make a fine represenative of our team
 332 [00:31] <stlsaint> sblunix: Saint Louis
 333 [00:31] <ZachK_> +1 to duanedesign
 334 [00:31] <PabloRubianes> and he is a crazy nice guy!
 335 [00:31] <stlsaint> PabloRubianes: duanedesign thx fellas
 336 [00:31] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] stlsaint for membership ?
 337 [00:31] <MootBot> Please vote on:  stlsaint for membership ?.
 338 [00:31] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 339 [00:31] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
 340 [00:32] <sblunix> stlsaint, I live in Saint Louis also
 341 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 342 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 343 [00:32] <nhandler> +1
 344 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 345 [00:32] <starcraftman> stlsaint, The only question that matters -in deciding my vote - is if I and bodhi were in a fight to the death, who's side would ya be on? :p
 346 [00:32] <Silver-Fox-> +1
 347 [00:32] <PabloRubianes> +1
 348 [00:32] <bgs100> +!
 349 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from PabloRubianes. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 350 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from Silver-Fox-. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 351 [00:32] <dvz-> +1
 352 [00:32] <ZachK_> +1
 353 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from dvz-. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 354 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from ZachK_. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
 355 [00:32] <bgs100> +1
 356 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from bgs100. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7
 357 [00:32] <bgs100> Whoops
 358 [00:32] <duanedesign> +1
 359 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from duanedesign. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8
 360 [00:32] <starcraftman> Darn, my timing off. Too much eating I guess.
 361 [00:32] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 362 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 9 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 9
 363 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> any additional votes ?
 364 [00:32] <starcraftman> +1
 365 [00:32] <dvz-> I think stlsaint has the drive and dedication to push himself and to expand his horizons...esp. in -dev
 366 [00:32] <MootBot> +1 received from starcraftman. 10 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 10
 367 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
 368 [00:32] <sblunix> can I +1?
 369 [00:32] <MootBot> Final result is 10 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 10
 370 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> w00t
 371 [00:32] <bodhi_zazen> welcome stlsaint
 372 [00:32] <ZachK_> sblunix: no
 373 [00:32] <duanedesign> \o/
 374 [00:33] <starcraftman> stlsaint, I'll pick up my bribe later :)
 375 [00:33] <nhandler> Congrats starcraftman
 376 [00:33] <bgs100> stlsaint, Congratulations!!!!
 377 [00:33] <nhandler> err stlsaint
 378 [00:33] <ZachK_> sblunix: you're not yet a team member
 379 [00:33] <PabloRubianes> congrats stlsaint!!!
 380 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> tab fail
 381 [00:33] <drs305> +1
 382 [00:33] <stlsaint> :D
 383 [00:33] <ZachK_> tab fail nhandler?
 384 [00:33] <starcraftman> nhandler, oh nice.
 385 [00:33] <bgs100> stlsaint, Welcome to them team :D
 386 [00:33] <dvz-> grats stlsaint
 387 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] sblunix for membership
 388 [00:33] <MootBot> New Topic:  sblunix for membership
 389 [00:33] <ZachK_> I'm standing for talsemgeest
 390 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> sblunix: he has a very geeky avatar =)
 391 [00:33] <stlsaint> bgs100: thanks
 392 [00:33] <stlsaint> thank you all
 393 [00:33] <ZachK_> welcome Finally stlsaint
 394 [00:33] <dvz-> geeky ava?  +1 automatically
 395 [00:33] <bodhi_zazen> sblunix: tell us about yourself, wiki page ?
 396 [00:33] <bgs100> You are very welcome :)
 397 [00:33] <sblunix> oh mon dieu
 398 [00:34] <sblunix> One second
 399 [00:34] <nhandler> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sblunix
 400 [00:34] <ZachK_> [Link]mailto:ubuntu-beginners@lists.ubuntu.com
 401 [00:34] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sblunix
 402 [00:34] <MootBot> LINK received: mailto:ubuntu-beginners@lists.ubuntu.com
 403 [00:34] <sblunix> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sblunix
 404 [00:34] <ZachK_> dang...wrong one
 405 [00:35] <ZachK_> sblunix: tell us about yur self
 406 [00:35] <PabloRubianes> don't be shy
 407 [00:35] <sblunix> OK
 408 [00:35] <sblunix> Wells
 409 [00:36] <sblunix> I live in Saint Louis (apparently along with stlsaint
 410 [00:36] <sblunix> I've been a Linux fan since 2007 and an ubuntu fan for almost as long
 411 [00:36] <sblunix> I've been with Ubuntu since 8.04 and I never Realized that there was such a great community for ubuntu
 412 [00:36] <sblunix> I'm fluent in English, French, and Bulgarian as well as Python, Java, Javascript and C++
 413 [00:37] <ZachK_> sblunix: well nice to have you.....just don't let starcraftman corrupt you!
 414 [00:37] <ZachK_> kidding starcraftman =)
 415 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> sblunix: is simply awesome with the gimp and will make us all look better =)
 416 [00:37] <starcraftman> ZachK_, I what? Corrupt? I'm the nice innocent Canadian!!!
 417 [00:37] <sblunix> I love to learn and I love to help others
 418 [00:37] <ZachK_> lol at starcraftman
 419 [00:37] <sblunix> oh yeah, and the logo on my wiki was made using GIMP! <3
 420 [00:37]  * sblunix loves GIMP
 421 [00:37] <dvz-> bodhi_zazen: i don't there there is any help for me in gimp...even with sblunix's expertise.
 422 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] sblunix for membership ?!?
 423 [00:37] <MootBot> Please vote on:  sblunix for membership ?!?.
 424 [00:37] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 425 [00:37] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
 426 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> +2
 427 [00:37] <Silver-Fox-> +1
 428 [00:37] <nhandler> +1
 429 [00:37] <MootBot> +1 received from Silver-Fox-. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 430 [00:37] <MootBot> +1 received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 431 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 432 [00:37] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
 433 [00:37] <bodhi_zazen> lol
 434 [00:37] <bgs100> +1
 435 [00:37] <MootBot> +1 received from bgs100. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
 436 [00:38] <ZachK_> +1
 437 [00:38] <MootBot> +1 received from ZachK_. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
 438 [00:38] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 439 [00:38] <Joeb454> +1
 440 [00:38] <MootBot> +1 received from Joeb454. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
 441 [00:38] <starcraftman> sblunix, awesome, I need to play more with GIMP, kinda dropped off since been back at uni.
 442 [00:38] <sblunix> I <3 +1s
 443 [00:38] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 7 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 7
 444 [00:38] <dvz-> +1
 445 [00:38] <MootBot> +1 received from dvz-. 8 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 8
 446 [00:38] <dvz-> -1
 447 [00:38] <starcraftman> +1
 448 [00:38] <MootBot> +1 received from starcraftman. 9 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 9
 449 [00:38] <bgs100> sblunix, :)
 450 [00:38] <sblunix> :(
 451 [00:38] <ZachK_> +1
 452 [00:38] <dvz-> :-P
 453 [00:38] <Silver-Fox-> Hehe
 454 [00:38] <sblunix> :P
 455 [00:38] <bgs100> dvz-, *GASSPP*
 456 [00:38]  * sblunix faints
 457 [00:38] <dvz-> bgs100: what?
 458 [00:38] <bodhi_zazen> Any additional votes ?
 459 [00:38] <ZachK_> dvz-: what?
 460 [00:38] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
 461 [00:38] <MootBot> Final result is 9 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 9
 462 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> w00t welcome sblunix
 463 [00:39] <sblunix> ... so I guess there's always next time :
 464 [00:39] <Joeb454> 'grats
 465 [00:39] <sblunix> ... so I guess there's always next time :'(
 466 [00:39] <Silver-Fox-> well done
 467 [00:39] <ZachK_> WELL COME SBLUNIX!!!!!!!!!!!
 468 [00:39] <nhandler> Congrats sblunix
 469 [00:39] <sblunix> :( is happy as a clam
 470 [00:39] <sblunix> :)*
 471 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> next MsA =)
 472 [00:39] <sblunix> (clams are happy right)
 473 [00:39] <bgs100> Lol
 474 [00:39] <dvz-> how happy is a clam in that contradiction?
 475 [00:39] <bgs100> sblunix, CONGRATS
 476 [00:39] <sblunix> bgs100 TYVM!
 477 [00:39] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, forest nor D seem about though.
 478 [00:39] <sblunix> also all TYVM
 479 [00:39] <sblunix> :D :D :D
 480 [00:39] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Ms-Angel for menbership ?
 481 [00:39] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ms-Angel for menbership ?
 482 [00:40] <Joeb454> I have to go, sorry. Night guys
 483 [00:40] <ZachK_> nope..no forest or ms-angel
 484 [00:40] <bgs100> It's a new member INVASSIIOONN
 485 [00:40] <Silver-Fox-> It is 00:41 AM in the UK
 486 [00:40] <bodhi_zazen> MsA, as she is known by the lazy typers, is simply awesome
 487 [00:40] <Joeb454> and for the record - I'd +1 MsAngel's membership
 488 [00:40] <bodhi_zazen> she is too shy to show up for the vote mind you
 489 [00:40] <ZachK_> same here
 490 [00:40] <Silver-Fox-> you are not likely to see forest at this ungodly hour
 491 [00:40] <Silver-Fox-> ;)
 492 [00:40] <ZachK_> +1
 493 [00:40] <starcraftman> Silver-Fox-, well... your on.
 494 [00:40] <dvz-> let's just +1 her and tell her she didn't get in?
 495 [00:41] <dvz-> then kid her and kick her with v
 496 [00:41] <Silver-Fox-> So,  I am always here starcraftman =]
 497 [00:41] <dvz-> :-P
 498 [00:41] <sblunix> ...
 499 [00:41] <bodhi_zazen> [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mrsangeld
 500 [00:41] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mrsangeld
 501 [00:41] <bodhi_zazen> [VOTE] Ms_Angel_D for assimilation ?
 502 [00:41] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Ms_Angel_D for assimilation ?.
 503 [00:41] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
 504 [00:41] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
 505 [00:41] <Silver-Fox-> +1
 506 [00:41] <bodhi_zazen> +1
 507 [00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from Silver-Fox-. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
 508 [00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from bodhi_zazen. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
 509 [00:41] <nhandler> +0
 510 [00:41] <MootBot> Abstention received from nhandler. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2
 511 [00:41] <ZachK_> +1
 512 [00:41] <MootBot> +1 received from ZachK_. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3
 513 [00:42] <starcraftman> +0
 514 [00:42] <MootBot> Abstention received from starcraftman. 3 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 3
 515 [00:42] <dvz-> +1
 516 [00:42] <sblunix> OMGeezles
 517 [00:42] <MootBot> +1 received from dvz-. 4 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 4
 518 [00:42] <MootBot> Private -1 vote received. 4 for, 1 against, 2 have abstained. Count is now 3
 519 [00:42] <sblunix> I'm a member
 520 [00:42] <sblunix> I can vote
 521 [00:42] <PabloRubianes> +0
 522 [00:42] <MootBot> Abstention received from PabloRubianes. 4 for, 1 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 3
 523 [00:42] <Rocket2DMn> +1
 524 [00:42] <MootBot> +1 received from Rocket2DMn. 5 for, 1 against. 3 have abstained. Count is now 4
 525 [00:42] <ZachK_> yes sblunix
 526 [00:42] <sblunix> +0
 527 [00:42] <MootBot> Abstention received from sblunix. 5 for, 1 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 4
 528 [00:42] <bgs100> +1
 529 [00:42] <MootBot> +1 received from bgs100. 6 for, 1 against. 4 have abstained. Count is now 5
 530 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> Any additional votes ?
 531 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> [ENDVOTE]
 532 [00:42] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 1 against. 4 abstained. Total: 5
 533 [00:42] <bodhi_zazen> any additional topics ?
 534 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> congrats new members !!!
 535 [00:43] <ZachK_> shall i update bt meeting page?
 536 [00:43] <sblunix> Didn't Silver-Fox- have soemthing?
 537 [00:43] <Silver-Fox-> Me bodhi_zazen
 538 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> please contact me so I may add you to the LP team
 539 [00:43] <nhandler> ZachK_: Rocket2DMn normally handles that
 540 [00:43] <starcraftman> I also got a few quick notes after silver
 541 [00:43] <nhandler> bodhi_zazen: I've added them already to the LP team
 542 [00:43] <ZachK_> Rocket2DMn:
 543 [00:43] <Rocket2DMn> ZachK_, please dont, we have to pull material off of it first
 544 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] What Silver-Fox- said
 545 [00:43] <MootBot> New Topic:  What Silver-Fox- said
 546 [00:43] <bodhi_zazen> thanks nhandler
 547 [00:43]  * sblunix is listening intently
 548 [00:43] <Rocket2DMn> ZachK_, if you want i'll let you update it when i get what i need, but i have to wait for logs to be uploaded first
 549 [00:44] <ZachK_> Rocket2DMn: k
 550 [00:44] <Silver-Fox-> IRC FG is going to hold another meeting.  Need input on a good day to hold it on.  Will fg members please fill in this poll:  http://www.doodle.com/i587anars2qthsty
 551 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> Silver-Fox-: poke , don't be shy  =)
 552 [00:44] <Silver-Fox-> [LINK] http://www.doodle.com/i587anars2qthsty
 553 [00:44] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://www.doodle.com/i587anars2qthsty
 554 [00:44] <Silver-Fox-> I have put it on the mailing list,  but not all are active on that.
 555 [00:44] <Silver-Fox-> This is just covering all the bases
 556 [00:44] <Silver-Fox-> I am done bodhi_zazen.
 557 [00:44] <bodhi_zazen> Any other topics ?
 558 [00:44] <starcraftman> I had fwe quick things
 559 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> Anybody think the meeting was too fast ?
 560 [00:45] <drs305> Nope.
 561 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> =)
 562 [00:45] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, wait up.
 563 [00:45]  * sblunix actually has something
 564 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> OK, go starcraftman
 565 [00:45] <bodhi_zazen> then sblunix
 566 [00:45] <starcraftman> I r so slow today, or at least feel like it.
 567 [00:45]  * bodhi_zazen drank too much coffee =)
 568 [00:45] <ZachK_> speak sblunix
 569 [00:45] <sblunix> Oh
 570 [00:45] <sblunix> I go
 571 [00:45] <sblunix> I thought it was starcraftman
 572 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> starcraftman: you done ?
 573 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> he is typing
 574 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> slowly
 575 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> go ahead sblunix
 576 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> if you can get a word in that is
 577 [00:46] <bodhi_zazen> =)
 578 [00:46] <ZachK_> sblunix:.......
 579 [00:46] <sblunix> Ok
 580 [00:46] <sblunix> Well
 581 [00:46]  * bodhi_zazen listens to crickets chirping
 582 [00:46] <sblunix> I just saw what Silver-Fox- just posted for the IRC FG
 583 [00:47] <sblunix> some sort of "when are people available" poll
 584 [00:47] <sblunix> Wouldn't that be a good idea for actual BT meetings too?
 585 [00:47] <ZachK_> sblunix: yes and?
 586 [00:47] <starcraftman> I wanted to note, the mentor list on > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Padawan< has gotten a bit long. I think there's some inactive on there, and not all prolly wanna be mentors. It's not supposed to be a general members list at least imo. Just noting.
 587 [00:47] <bodhi_zazen> yes, we did that a short time ago and are alternating times of the meeting bi-monthly
 588 [00:48]  * Silver-Fox- is glad that was sorted =]
 589 [00:48] <sblunix> starcraftman: Oh I thought the Master list was a general members list...
 590 [00:48] <bodhi_zazen> sblunix: this time slot alt 2 hours earlier
 591 [00:48] <sblunix> hmm
 592 [00:48] <starcraftman> sblunix, well it's for paddys and mentors, but once ya make member ya should only be on it imo if ya wanna mentor.
 593 [00:48] <ZachK_> sblunix: no...really i believe paultag has to approve
 594 [00:49] <ZachK_> and bodhi_zazen usually gives his blessing first
 595 [00:49] <sblunix> :) oh? Buddhists give blessings?
 596 [00:50]  * Silver-Fox- makes note to actually ask
 597 [00:50] <Silver-Fox-> =]
 598 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> Only the self depreciation ones sblunix
 599 [00:50] <ZachK_> ok...is that it?
 600 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> Any other topics ?
 601 [00:50] <starcraftman> Only other thing to add is short announcement, I was thinking of going for Ubuntu membership sometime in near future. Anyone wanting to give testimonial on my page, I'd be obliged. I'm sure everyone knows where it is.
 602 [00:50] <ZachK_> [TOPIC]No topics?
 603 [00:50] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen, That's last thing I got.
 604 [00:50] <Silver-Fox-> The internets starcraftman?
 605 [00:50] <bodhi_zazen> #endmeeting
 606 [00:50] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 18:50.
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