20081111

Agenda

Items we will be discussing:

  • Review ACTION points from previous meeting.
  • Review progress made on the specification listed on the Roadmap.

  • Open Discussion.
  • Agree on next meeting date and time.

Minutes

Server FAQ

sommer started to update questions on the ServerFaq page. Questions that need to be updated are marked.

ACTION: mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap

ACTION: kirkland to review the RAID related questions

Get rid of old libdb versions

Work started to get rid of old libdb version during the Hardy release cycle. The list of packages needed a review needs to be updated in the Roadmap.

ACTION: zul to update the list of packages depending on libdb

Add augeas lenses

nxvl reported that lenses have been written during the last cycle. Upstream is still active. The state of lenses are tracked on a wiki page. He plans to write more lenses during this release cycle.

Update ServerGuide for Jaunty

sommer started to gather ideas about the updates to make to the Ubuntu Server Guide for Jaunty. All the ideas will be tracked in a specification.

ACTION: sommer to create a spec for the ServerGuide update in Jaunty

Merges and init script

mathiaz reminded that the archive is opened and merging is the main focus of the developers for now. kirkland added that checking if init scripts have a status action is welcome. If not adding one would be appreciated - steps to do so are outline on the InitScriptsStatusActions wiki page. A lot of packages have already been updated during the intrepid release cycle. More work is needed though.

ACTION: kirkland to update the init status action wiki page

Ubuntu Server survey

nijaba reminded everyone that the Ubuntu Server survey will close next Friday, November, the 14th. So far 6777 responses have been gathered (4105 full responses, 2672 responses not completely filled out).

Agree on next meeting date and time

Next meeting will be on Tuesday, November 18th at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.

Log

[16:02] <mathiaz> #startmeeting
[16:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is mathiaz.
[16:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:03] <mathiaz> Today extermely important agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:04] <mathiaz> last week minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20081104
[16:04] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Server FAQ
[16:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server FAQ
[16:04] <mathiaz> nijaba: sommer: ??
[16:04] <sommer> mathiaz: I made some updates last night, but there's a few left
[16:04] <nijaba> mathiaz: I have not been able to work on this during the past week
[16:05] <mathiaz> sommer: great.
[16:05] <mathiaz> I haven't update the roadmap
[16:05] <mathiaz> I'll do that later today.
[16:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: did you get a chance to review the RAID section?
[16:06] <mathiaz> [ACTION] mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:06] <MootBot> ACTION received:  mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap
[16:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: i did about a month ago, with sommer
[16:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - I'm refering to the Server FAQ
[16:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: oh, the ServerFAQ ... no
[16:07] <kirkland> mathiaz: busy week, sprinting, etc.
[16:07] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:07] <MootBot> ACTION received:  kirkland to review the RAID related questions
[16:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok
[16:07] <mathiaz> sommer: how many questions are left to be reviewed?
[16:07] <sommer> mathiaz: maybe 3-4, and then add the new ones... so maybe 8 totoal
[16:07] <sommer> or there abouts
[16:08] <mathiaz> ok - are these questions marked somehow to be reviewed?
[16:08] <nijaba> mathiaz: yes, I marked them up
[16:09] <mathiaz> ok
[16:09] <mathiaz> anything else on the Server FAQ subject?
[16:09] <sommer> don't think so
[16:10] <mathiaz> ok - that's all from last week minutes.
[16:10] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Get rid of old libdb versions
[16:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Get rid of old libdb versions
[16:11] <mathiaz> ScottK started to look into that task during hardy.
[16:11] <mathiaz> It seems that there is still some work to be done, but the list of packages to be updated needs to be updated firs.t
[16:13] <mathiaz> zul: do you know the status of this migration^^?
[16:14] <zul> mathiaz:I think most of them are done already openldap is a different case
[16:15] <mathiaz> zul: correct - openldap is trickier. I'll look into that issue once I update openldap to 2.4.12.
[16:15] <zul> the list definently needs to be updated though
[16:15] <mathiaz> zul: could you go over the list of packages in the roadmap and update it?
[16:16] <zul> mathiaz: yep
[16:16] <mathiaz> [ACTION] zul to update the list of packages depending on libdb.
[16:16] <MootBot> ACTION received:  zul to update the list of packages depending on libdb.
[16:17] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Add augeas lenses
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  Add augeas lenses
[16:17] <mathiaz> nxvl: ^^?
[16:18] <nxvl> \o/
[16:18] <nxvl> ok
[16:18] <nxvl> we have come to a good state of the lenses
[16:18] <nxvl> we have a bunch, raphink has been closely working with upstream for this
[16:18] <nxvl> also upstream is going very well
[16:19] <nxvl> this summer (south american here!) i will have planty of time for doing that
[16:19] <nxvl> so i hope to have the whole set of needed lenses for feature freeze
[16:19] <nxvl> and as always help is really welcomed
[16:19] <mathiaz> nxvl: is the list of lenses to create up-to-date on the wiki page?
[16:19] <nxvl> is not hard to write those
[16:19] <nxvl> yep
[16:19] <nxvl> let me grab the link
[16:20] <nxvl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCentralizedServiceAdministrator/Augeas
[16:20] <nxvl> actually the tracking of the upstream lenses list is being done by me on tha wiki page AFAIR
[16:20] <mathiaz> ok - so work to create more lenses will continue during this release cycle
[16:20] <nxvl> i updates that 2 weeks ago and there are no new lenses that i'm aware of
[16:20] <nxvl> mathiaz: yes
[16:21] <mathiaz> nxvl: great. Thanks for tracking this task!
[16:21] <nxvl> mathiaz: an hopefully finished soon
[16:21] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Update ServerGuide for Jaunty
[16:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Update ServerGuide for Jaunty
[16:21] <mathiaz> sommer: I've updated the roadmap with a link to a spec
[16:21] <mathiaz> sommer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyServerGuide
[16:22] <mathiaz> sommer: however that wiki page ^^ doesn't exist yet
[16:22] <sommer> mathiaz: cool, I can create that based on some things that didn't get into the Intrepid guide
[16:22] <mathiaz> sommer: do you have ideas/plans for the Server Guide in Jaunty?
[16:22] <sommer> mathiaz: a few, and I think there are more in the server team idea pool page
[16:23] <mathiaz> sommer: great - could you start to move them to the wiki page?
[16:23] <sommer> mathiaz: sure will do
[16:23] <mathiaz> sommer: so that we can get an overview for the work to be done for Jaunty
[16:23] <mathiaz> [ACTION] sommer to create a spec for the ServerGuide update in Jaunty
[16:23] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sommer to create a spec for the ServerGuide update in Jaunty
[16:23] <kwwii> erm
[16:23] <kwwii> sorry
[16:24] <mathiaz> sommer: any news on when the server guide for 8.10 will be put on help.u.c ?
[16:25] <sommer> mathiaz: not entirely sure, but I think mdke replied to a bug saying that the files were ready and waiting to be moved to the live server
[16:25] <mathiaz> sommer: ok.
[16:25] <mathiaz> anything else related to the server guide in Jaunty?
[16:26] <sommer> I think that's all
[16:26] <mathiaz> ok.
[16:26] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Merges
[16:26] <MootBot> New Topic:  Merges
[16:26] <mathiaz> As you may have noticed, the archive is open for jaunty
[16:27] <mathiaz> so it's mergin time again
[16:27] <mathiaz> I'll prepare a list of "easy" merges again
[16:28] <mathiaz> as usual follow the Merging guidelines
[16:28] <mathiaz> outlined on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[16:29] <mathiaz> well - that's all I have on the Roadmap
[16:29] <mathiaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Roadmap
[16:30] <mathiaz> anyone wants to add anything related to items on the Roadmap?
[16:30] <kirkland> when doing merges, perhaps check if the package has an init script, see if it has a status action ;-)
[16:30] <kirkland> and add one during the merge, if it doesn't ;-)
[16:30] <mathiaz> if not - just ping kirkland - he will be glad to add one for you ;)
[16:31] <mathiaz> kirkland: what's the wiki page used to track the status action?
[16:32] <mathiaz> kirkland: IIRC there are some intructions there on how to add a status action to init scripts
[16:32] <nxvl> i think kirkland had a wiki page were it was explained how to add one
[16:32] <kirkland> mathiaz: that page needs an update for Jaunty
[16:32] <nxvl> and it's really easy AFAIR
[16:32] <kirkland> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitScriptStatusActions
[16:32] <kirkland> you can also run: "service --status-all" on your system
[16:33] <kirkland> and see what init scripts are missing status actions
[16:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: what needs to be updated?
[16:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: the list of packages?
[16:33] <zul> kirkland: is it just for packages in main that you are going to do the init script stuff or for universe as well?
[16:33] <kirkland> mathiaz: i need to crossref that wiki page, and ensure it's accurate for Jaunty
[16:34] <kirkland> zul: both;  main with more emphasis, I'd think
[16:34] <zul> kirkland: ok
[16:34] <kirkland> zul: but i'm happy to review/sponsor universe fixes myself
[16:34] <mathiaz> [ACTION] kirkland to update the init status action wiki page
[16:34] <MootBot> ACTION received:  kirkland to update the init status action wiki page
[16:35] <mathiaz> kirkland: I think packages marked as FIXED can be removed from the wiki page
[16:35] <kirkland> mathiaz: okay
[16:35] <kirkland> mathiaz: actually, it helps point to other scripts that you can emulate
[16:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: good point. May be moving them a different section then
[16:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: like - some examples:
[16:36] <kirkland> mathiaz: sounds good!
[16:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: thanks for keeping track of this!
[16:37] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[16:37] <mathiaz> something new and interesting to say?
[16:37] <nijaba> yes, the surver survey is closing on the 15th
[16:38] <nijaba> if anyone want to blog about last chance to take the survey, feel free
[16:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'm running with my entire home directory encrypted, using the same code used for Encrypted ~/Private
[16:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: :-)
[16:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'm working on the bootstrapping to get this working in Jaunty
[16:38] <mathiaz> the survey url is: http://survey.ubuntu.com/
[16:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: awesome.
[16:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: do you have a spec written for?
[16:43] <nealmcb1> nijaba: how many responses on the survey now?
[16:43] <mathiaz> allright - anything else?
[16:43] <nijaba> mathiaz: about 4000+
[16:43] <mathiaz> nealmcb1: ^^
[16:43] <nealmcb1> cool
[16:45] <mathiaz> allright - time to wrap up I guess
[16:45] <mathiaz> [TOPIC] Agree on next meeting date and time.
[16:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agree on next meeting date and time.
[16:45] <mathiaz> next week, same time, same place?
[16:46] <nijaba> nealmcb1: 6777 responses for this survey (4105 full responses, 2672 responses not completely filled out)  to be precise
[16:46] <kirkland> o/
[16:46] <zul> nijaba: neat
[16:46]  * nijaba may not be available next week, but will try his best
=== nealmcb1 is now known as nealmcb
[16:48] <mathiaz> ok - great then.
[16:48] <mathiaz> See you all next week, same place, same time
[16:48] <mathiaz> and happy mergin' till then!
[16:48] <mathiaz> #endmeeting
[16:48] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:48.

MeetingLogs/Server/20081111 (last edited 2008-11-12 00:42:25 by mathiaz)