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(10:00:02 AM) robbiew: #startmeeting
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(10:00:09 AM) robbiew: ...and so it begins
(10:00:35 AM) ***fader_ is filling in for marjo for QA today.
(10:00:37 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Ubuntu 10.10 Release
(10:00:37 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Ubuntu 10.10 Release
(10:00:45 AM) robbiew: fader_: ack
(10:01:11 AM) robbiew: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-06-11
(10:01:12 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2010-06-11
(10:01:49 AM) ttx: o/
(10:02:12 AM) ***robbiew waits for others
(10:02:17 AM) ***ogasawara waves
(10:02:18 AM) robbiew: cjwatson?
(10:02:28 AM) Riddell: hola
(10:02:36 AM) cjwatson: here
(10:02:44 AM) jdstrand: o/
(10:02:54 AM) ***robbiew wonders why he spends time putting bugs into the agenda...since the list is constantly changing
(10:03:14 AM) ***robbiew will rethink that approach :/
(10:03:41 AM) robbiew: okey dokey...so I'm "acting" release manager, until we settle on a more permanent one
(10:03:45 AM) cjwatson: it's useful later in the cycle
(10:03:47 AM) robbiew: which should be REALLY soon
(10:03:47 AM) cjwatson: (bugs)
(10:03:52 AM) ***ogra waves from linuxtag
(10:03:52 AM) robbiew: cjwatson: ack
(10:04:30 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Alpha 2
(10:04:31 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Alpha 2
(10:04:39 AM) robbiew: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/all-maverick-alpha-2.svg
(10:04:40 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/all-maverick-alpha-2.svg
(10:04:50 AM) robbiew: this is a bit scary :/
(10:04:51 AM) ogra: geez
(10:04:56 AM) cjwatson: spot the specs being written late
(10:05:04 AM) robbiew: ack
(10:05:19 AM) robbiew: but I suspect I will see some more yellow there soon
(10:05:21 AM) robbiew: heh
(10:05:34 AM) robbiew: though more green is preferred
(10:05:39 AM) cjwatson: yeah - green is growing more than it looks from a glance at the graph, but not fast enough
(10:05:48 AM) robbiew: so...let's get to it
(10:05:52 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Foundations
(10:05:53 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Foundations
(10:06:20 AM) cjwatson: (I asked to go first since I have to leave early)
(10:06:33 AM) cjwatson: I literally *just* put together https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick, but there's only automated information on there right now
(10:06:43 AM) cjwatson: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-foundations.html is a bit scary
(10:06:43 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-foundations.html is a bit scary
(10:06:46 AM) cjwatson: HOWEVER
(10:06:59 AM) cjwatson: this is full of ARM stuff since it still thinks that james_w and lool are in foundations
(10:07:06 AM) cjwatson: so the graph will drop a bit once I fix that
(10:07:22 AM) robbiew: ah..didn't think of that
(10:07:23 AM) cjwatson: I think we're still slow-starting though
(10:07:28 AM) ***ogra fixed it for mobile already ... right before we were renamed :P
(10:07:36 AM) cjwatson: so, as far as the agenda goes:
(10:08:13 AM) cjwatson: btrfs-support has the one essential item done upstream, awaiting a merge (which in turn is pending an MIR review). there's a bunch of optional stuff none of which is a2-critical, but it's being worked on.
(10:08:20 AM) cjwatson: buy-something, no idea
(10:08:40 AM) cjwatson: 686-compile, toolchain switch is done but had slightly more of an impact on geode than we hoped; being debugged
(10:09:03 AM) asac_ is now known as asac
(10:09:05 AM) cjwatson: cd-boot, I think I might switch this to a3 in favour of uefi-support since there's a plugfest in July which will benefit from having the latter done early
(10:09:25 AM) cjwatson: I don't have enough information to report on the other blueprints at this time, sorry :(
(10:09:45 AM) cjwatson: the locale-gen bug was something that came up as an optimisation in a conversation between me and pitti, and should be well in hand
(10:10:15 AM) cjwatson: otherwise, I'll try to get us more organised on the work item lists for next week
(10:10:21 AM) robbiew: heh..np
(10:10:36 AM) robbiew: anything for Foundations?
(10:10:52 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Kernel
(10:10:53 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Kernel
ogasawara ogra
(10:11:00 AM) robbiew: ogasawara: welcome to the party
(10:11:01 AM) robbiew: :P
(10:11:01 AM) ***cjwatson has been buried alternately in Linaro sprinting and in the internals of grub/efi for the last week ...
(10:11:06 AM) ogasawara: woot!
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: Overall Kernel Team status is summarised at the first URL below,
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: including the item(s) called out in the agenda. Our burndown chart for
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: Alpha2 is at the third URL, and our overall burndown chart is at the fourth:
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
(10:11:10 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:11:10 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:11:11 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick#Milestone maverick-alpha-2
(10:11:13 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:11:13 AM) ogasawara: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
(10:11:16 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-kernel-team.svg
(10:11:25 AM) ogasawara: On the item noted in the agenda, the status is as follows:
(10:11:25 AM) ogasawara: * Bug 591707 - Tim is currently assigned to and investigating this bug.
(10:11:26 AM) ogasawara: The issue has been tested and confirmed against the latest 2.6.35-rc2
(10:11:26 AM) ogasawara: upstream kernel. Tim has contacted the upstream e1000e Intel driver
(10:11:26 AM) ogasawara: developers. The current suggestion so far is to try updating the BIOS.
(10:11:27 AM) ogasawara: We're awaiting feedback from the bug reporter.
(10:11:28 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 591707 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "After upgrade lucid -> maverick eth0 interface is gone" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591707
(10:11:34 AM) cjwatson: damn, ogasawara is making me look bad.
(10:11:40 AM) cjwatson: :-)
(10:11:42 AM) ogasawara: :)
(10:11:51 AM) ogasawara: As a general status, we have rebased with the upstream 2.6.35-rc2
(10:11:51 AM) ogasawara: kernel. This is available for testing in the latest linux 2.6.35-2.3
(10:11:51 AM) ogasawara: maverick upload. We are also below the burdown chart overall but are
(10:11:51 AM) ogasawara: above the Alpha2 burdown chart with 25% work items complete.
(10:12:11 AM) ogasawara: Questions?
(10:12:26 AM) robbiew: bug 553498
(10:12:28 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 553498 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "Intel Core i3/i5/i7 hang on resume from suspend (SCI_EN)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553498
(10:12:55 AM) robbiew: any status on that one...just came on the radar...so "no" is acceptable
(10:12:57 AM) robbiew: ;)
(10:13:22 AM) ogasawara: robbiew: I'll get with kamal and get an update
(10:13:29 AM) robbiew: thank you ma'am ;)
(10:13:43 AM) robbiew: that's all from me
(10:14:02 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Security
(10:14:02 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Security
(10:14:12 AM) jdstrand: o/
(10:14:17 AM) jdstrand: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:14:17 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:14:18 AM) jdstrand: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
(10:14:18 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-security.html
(10:14:28 AM) jdstrand: Not a lot to report. Our team has been swamped with security updates lately and we've not been able to do any significant development work, which is why our burndown is so scary.
(10:14:37 AM) jdstrand: I said this during the Lucid cycle, but will repeat it here for Maverick: due to development work being secondary to security updates, we only commit to completing essential blueprints. As such, the burndown chart doesn't work super well for our team, but I don't really know how to fix it either...
(10:14:47 AM) ***robbiew considers security updates **significant** ;)
(10:15:01 AM) jdstrand: heh
(10:15:03 AM) jdstrand: yes!
(10:15:18 AM) jdstrand: most definitely, but we consider them non-devel work :)
(10:15:23 AM) jdstrand: This time we don't have many essential bps, and the only one that is left to complete is security-m-tls-renegotiation-updates. That has one maverick specific item, which is to merge openssl. This should be done by sometime next week.
(10:15:44 AM) robbiew: jdstrand: perhaps we need a way to show progress of security updates
(10:15:59 AM) robbiew: completed vs ToDos
(10:16:00 AM) robbiew: or something
(10:16:09 AM) robbiew: you should probably have your manager figure that out
(10:16:10 AM) robbiew: :P
(10:16:10 AM) jdstrand: well, we have www.ubuntu.com/usn
(10:16:21 AM) jdstrand: but that doesn't tell the whole story :)
(10:16:48 AM) jdstrand: eg, there has been no update for firefox this week, but I have been working almost extensively on firefox 3.6.4 testing on hardy this week
(10:16:56 AM) jdstrand: heh
(10:16:59 AM) robbiew: ack
(10:17:00 AM) jdstrand: s/almost//
(10:17:18 AM) ***jdstrand changed from typing exclusively to extensively mid thought :)
(10:17:31 AM) robbiew: any questions for Security?
(10:17:34 AM) jdstrand: robbiew: but yes, this could be brought up with our team's manager
(10:17:41 AM) robbiew: yeah yeah
(10:17:49 AM) robbiew: it's on my ToDo list ;)
(10:17:53 AM) jdstrand: :)
(10:17:57 AM) jdstrand: (that's it from me)
(10:18:05 AM) robbiew: thnx
(10:18:16 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] QA
(10:18:16 AM) MootBot: New Topic: QA
(10:18:20 AM) ***robbiew braces for impact
(10:18:21 AM) fader_: Yo
(10:18:24 AM) fader_: Hardware testing:
(10:18:24 AM) fader_: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
(10:18:25 AM) fader_: Laptops/Netbooks:
(10:18:25 AM) fader_: passed: 26 (46%) failed: 6 (11%) untested: 24 (43%)
(10:18:25 AM) fader_: Servers:
(10:18:25 AM) fader_: passed: 53 (78%) failed: 0 ( 0%) untested: 15 (22%)
(10:18:25 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~fader/hw-testing/current.html
(10:18:27 AM) fader_: Desktops:
(10:18:29 AM) fader_: passed: 9 (90%) failed: 0 ( 0%) untested: 1 (10%)
(10:18:30 AM) fader_: We had some issues getting the desktop images installing on the laptops in the lab but I think they are all resolved now
(10:18:34 AM) fader_: The installs are going on as we speak so we should have some more results soon
(10:18:40 AM) fader_: (in fact I'm seeing results come in now)
(10:18:44 AM) fader_: The big issue on the servers is bug 589304 (which is now fixed so again we should see more results soon)
(10:18:46 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 589304 in linux (Ubuntu) "Maverick: bnx2 udeb firmware missing" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589304
(10:18:56 AM) fader_: Maverick Alpha 1 Test Report:
(10:18:56 AM) fader_: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickAlpha1TestReport
(10:18:56 AM) fader_: == Test Coverage ==
(10:18:56 AM) fader_: Image Coverage: 100%
(10:18:56 AM) fader_: Mandatory Testcase Coverage: 114/171 = 66.67
(10:18:56 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/MaverickAlpha1TestReport
(10:18:57 AM) fader_: Optional Testcase Coverage: 5/18 = 27.78
(10:18:59 AM) fader_: === Test Failure Analysis ===
(10:19:01 AM) fader_: 15 Test Failures
(10:19:03 AM) fader_: Failure Rate 15/119 = 12.61
(10:19:04 AM) fader_: == Bugs summary, As of 4 June 2010 ==
(10:19:06 AM) fader_: === Summary of Unfixed Issues ===
(10:19:08 AM) fader_: 39 bugs unfixed
(10:19:10 AM) fader_: High - 4
(10:19:12 AM) fader_: Medium - 7
(10:19:14 AM) fader_: Low - 2
(10:19:19 AM) fader_: Undecided - 26
(10:19:21 AM) fader_: === Summary of Fixed Issues ===
(10:19:22 AM) fader_: 8 bugs fixed
(10:19:24 AM) fader_: High - 2
(10:19:26 AM) fader_: Medium - 1
(10:19:28 AM) fader_: Low - 1
(10:19:30 AM) fader_: Undecided - 4
(10:19:32 AM) fader_: Maverick Blueprints Status:
(10:19:34 AM) fader_: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:19:35 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-platform-qa-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:19:37 AM) fader_: All work items are on track.
(10:19:39 AM) fader_: (END OF LINE)
(10:20:17 AM) fader_: Any questions?
(10:20:18 AM) ***robbiew is digesting
(10:20:50 AM) robbiew: nope...i'm good.....for now ;)
(10:20:54 AM) fader_: \o/
(10:21:15 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Server
(10:21:16 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Server
(10:21:40 AM) ttx: o/
(10:21:45 AM) ttx: Our updated release status is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus
(10:21:55 AM) ttx: Only 2 bugs alpha2-milestoned, we probably didn't break enough stuff yet.
(10:22:04 AM) ttx: Both are about UEC, one is a needed change in maverick, the other is a regression caught in alpha1 testing. Both are taken care of by Daviey.
(10:22:15 AM) ttx: The regression doesn't happen with Lucid kernels, so it might be in fact a kernel regression... More on that next week.
(10:22:36 AM) ttx: On the specs side, here is the alpha2 status: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-server-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:22:51 AM) ttx: Everything was under control until we added the work items from the UEC specs :) Then we got hit by a few medical leaves, but everything should be back to fullspeed next week.
(10:23:04 AM) ttx: Looking at Critical/High specs < 40% completion:
(10:23:17 AM) ttx: server-maverick-cloud-init (6%): stalled by smoser in paternity leave, will throw more resources at it
(10:23:25 AM) ttx: server-maverick-hypervisor (31%): slow start (is assigned to a new hire), now on track
(10:23:36 AM) ttx: server-maverick-uec-eucalyptus-next (11%): Slow start (assigned to new hire, large initial merge), but under control
(10:23:46 AM) ttx: server-maverick-uec-testing (10%): hggdh impacted by UEC projects, should be OK , will refine Monday
(10:23:57 AM) ttx: server-maverick-qa-workflow (10%): hggdh impacted by UEC projects, might move to A3 and Medium prio
(10:24:07 AM) ttx: Medium/Low Specs < 20% completion:
(10:24:22 AM) ttx: server-maverick-cloud-utils (0%) On standby due to prio 1 assignment
(10:24:40 AM) ttx: server-maverick-uds-seed-review (0%) Only a couple work items, on standby due to prio 1 assignment
(10:24:48 AM) ttx: sae for server-maverick-upstart-conversion
(10:24:50 AM) ttx: same
(10:25:09 AM) ttx: server-maverick-uec-provisioning (0%) Dustin was on leave, should be picked up next week
(10:25:23 AM) ttx: server-maverick-uec-liveusb (0%) Might have to be postponed due to Dustin medical leave
(10:25:38 AM) ttx: All other specs are on track and showing good progress.
(10:25:50 AM) ttx: Questions ?
(10:26:11 AM) robbiew: hmm...somehow I missed some of the specs in my alpha2 milestoned search
(10:26:17 AM) robbiew: sorry about that
(10:26:31 AM) ttx: robbiew: I edited based on those with A2 work items
(10:26:46 AM) ttx: most of our specs are targeted to A3 with some work items on A2
(10:26:49 AM) robbiew: ah
(10:26:50 AM) robbiew: okay
(10:26:57 AM) robbiew: whew!
(10:27:40 AM) robbiew: thnx ttx
(10:27:44 AM) ***ttx bows
(10:27:47 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Desktop
(10:27:47 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Desktop
(10:27:51 AM) seb128: hey
(10:28:04 AM) seb128: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
(10:28:05 AM) seb128: [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:28:05 AM) seb128: [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
(10:28:05 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team.html
(10:28:05 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:28:06 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
(10:28:12 AM) seb128: (I didn't have time to update the wiki one for maverick yet)
(10:28:22 AM) seb128: things worth noting:
(10:28:23 AM) seb128: * we are mostly on track for alpha2
(10:28:23 AM) seb128: * unity landed to maverick this week and UNE brings it in now (should work out of the box on new install and upgades)
(10:28:23 AM) seb128: * the xorg transition in maverick is done, we should be back to installability (out of some nvidia drivers rebuild required it seems)
(10:28:23 AM) seb128: * our web-browsers maintainer has been busy with the firefox 3.6.4 security updates so we didn't have much work done on chromium for UNE yet
(10:28:35 AM) seb128: * we will likely stay on the lucid version of GNOME
(10:28:59 AM) seb128: (new GNOME going toward GNOME3 this cycle will require gtk3 which is lot of work, gtk soname change)
(10:29:33 AM) seb128:
(10:29:36 AM) seb128: (that's it)
(10:29:37 AM) ***robbiew noticed the Unity into UNE this week
(10:29:45 AM) ScottK: Kubuntu status is also on the ReleaseStatus page. We are in good shape, but blocked on MIRs in a number of cases.
(10:30:02 AM) ***robbiew apologizes for listing non-targeted bugs for Desktop :/
(10:30:04 AM) robbiew: doh!
(10:30:10 AM) robbiew: ScottK: ack
(10:30:22 AM) seb128: oh, we did quite some SRUs for lucid .1 as well
(10:30:30 AM) seb128: and still plan to get GNOME 2.30.2 there
(10:30:44 AM) seb128: it's schedule for end of june
(10:31:26 AM) ScottK: For Lucid, I should mention that I raised Bug #586497 to the tech board last night as a probable post-release regression.
(10:31:27 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 586497 in packagekit (Ubuntu Lucid) "kpackagekit install security update in automatic mode without authorization" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586497
(10:32:28 AM) robbiew: ok, thanks ScottK
(10:32:35 AM) robbiew: seb128: when I initially upgraded my netbook, I had a weird combination of old UNE and new Unity UNE....until I ran 'apt-get autoremove'
(10:32:39 AM) seb128: kenvandine, want to add an update for dx or ols?
(10:32:42 AM) robbiew: is that expected?
(10:32:43 AM) kenvandine: ok
(10:33:08 AM) kenvandine: big thing for dx right now is appmenus, we are getting that stuff into maverick now and will do MIRs for them next week
(10:33:16 AM) seb128: robbiew, no, maybe you did catch it during the transition? it worked fine there... could you open a bug and we will check
(10:33:37 AM) kenvandine: and along with that comes a number of library updates, which have been trickling in
(10:33:51 AM) kenvandine: indicator-network will go into maverick next week, but not seeded
(10:33:56 AM) robbiew: seb128: ah...I think that was it...no need for a bug
(10:34:46 AM) robbiew: kenvandine: anything else?
(10:35:01 AM) kenvandine: davidbarth, anything else?
(10:35:08 AM) davidbarth: kenvandine: yep
(10:35:11 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] DX
(10:35:12 AM) MootBot: New Topic: DX
(10:35:18 AM) davidbarth: hiya
(10:35:34 AM) davidbarth: so for the dx specific bits, you can see the report (hot of the press ;) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus#preview
(10:35:45 AM) davidbarth: (well remove the #preview)
(10:36:01 AM) davidbarth: a few words on alpha-1 first
(10:36:12 AM) davidbarth: as we were targetting it spefically for appmenu
(10:36:26 AM) davidbarth: so that part of the plan went well ;) http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-dx-team-maverick-alpha-1.html
(10:36:37 AM) ogra: A2 you mean ? (A1 is over)
(10:36:40 AM) davidbarth: now we're in alpha-2, it's a bit more tough:
(10:36:57 AM) davidbarth: our main focus is on:
(10:37:07 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-app-menubar
(10:37:08 AM) davidbarth: app. switching available; no other major feature released this week; and a big call for testing!
(10:37:09 AM) davidbarth: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationMenu for how you can help
(10:37:14 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-gtk-enhancements
(10:37:15 AM) davidbarth: argb released in maverick
(10:37:17 AM) davidbarth: blacklist support added
(10:37:19 AM) davidbarth: csd currently on hold, reviewing feedback and plans with stakeholders and community
(10:37:22 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-sound-menu-v2
(10:37:23 AM) davidbarth: registration API released; mpris test harness
(10:37:25 AM) davidbarth: work this week on the new menu elements
(10:37:26 AM) davidbarth: no release this week
(10:37:32 AM) davidbarth: all other blueprints, not started:
(10:37:36 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-indicator-clock
(10:37:50 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-indicator-messages (will be descoped and managed at the bug fix level directly)
(10:38:03 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-indicator-me - bug fixes too at this stage, not started either
dagar dantalizing DarkwingDuck davidbarth Daviey davmor2
davidbarth Daviey davmor2
davidbarth Daviey
(10:38:39 AM) davidbarth: sor for the DX/desktop part, we're still all on appmenubar now, making sure it's baked for a2, so we can switch to something else after that
(10:38:58 AM) davidbarth: Netbook rocks: there's been a new Unity release this week again:
(10:39:05 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-unity-une-integration
(10:39:07 AM) davidbarth: New release this week: 0.2.8
(10:39:08 AM) davidbarth: Single menubar support, and tons of goodness internally
(10:39:10 AM) davidbarth: Also works with the new bamf system now
(10:39:11 AM) davidbarth: Lucid PPA also available at: http://launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/+archive/une
(10:39:20 AM) davidbarth: and on the network front (for the netbook target):
(10:39:24 AM) davidbarth: dx-m-indicator-network
(10:39:25 AM) davidbarth: backend bugfixes, all of them upstreamed in connman and ofono
(10:39:27 AM) davidbarth: Builds available in a dedicated ppa (lucid): see https://launchpad.net/~indicator-network-developers/+archive/ppa
(10:39:28 AM) davidbarth: On its way to Maverick as an installable option, ie /not by default, not even on UNE yet/
(10:39:50 AM) davidbarth: the backend work goes well, but we're currently on hold for the UI/setttings bits
(10:40:03 AM) davidbarth: no particular bugs on our radar, either desktop or unity
(10:40:16 AM) davidbarth: but we're keeping a list of weekly bugs/tasks at:
(10:40:28 AM) davidbarth: https://launchpad.net/ayatana/+milestone/maverick-alpha-2
(10:40:30 AM) davidbarth: and
(10:40:39 AM) davidbarth: https://edge.launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/0.2.10
(10:40:44 AM) davidbarth: and that's it for me!
(10:40:46 AM) davidbarth: questions?
(10:41:12 AM) robbiew: davidbarth: so some of the a2 blueprints you just mentioned still have a1 targets
(10:41:13 AM) davidbarth: i assume the silence is due to people digesting my irc'reah
(10:41:26 AM) robbiew: can you make sure those are corrected?
(10:41:34 AM) davidbarth: right, i will move then to a2 so they can show up properly on the lists
(10:41:39 AM) robbiew: thanks!
(10:42:14 AM) robbiew: okay...thnx davidbarth
(10:42:22 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] ARM
(10:42:23 AM) MootBot: New Topic: ARM
(10:42:27 AM) ***ogra waves ... sitting in an exciting talk about linaro at LinuxTag
(10:42:32 AM) robbiew: formerly known as Ubuntu Mobile :)
(10:42:40 AM) ogra: :)
(10:42:42 AM) ogra: Detailed status at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Maverick
(10:42:42 AM) ogra: ..
(10:42:42 AM) ogra: Short summary:
(10:42:42 AM) ogra: * Focusing on map3/4 images, we're waiting for teh kernel team for an omap4 tree (ubuntu based branch recieved today from TI)
(10:42:42 AM) ogra: * Some omap3 bugs
(10:42:44 AM) ogra: * Not much work on FTBFS list yet, will start to rock and roll as soon as the image stuff landed
(10:42:46 AM) ogra: ..
(10:42:48 AM) ogra: A2 status:
(10:42:50 AM) ogra: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:42:51 AM) MootBot: LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-maverick-alpha-2.html
(10:42:52 AM) ogra: (only one spec we're all focusing on, the chart should look good by end of next week)
(10:42:54 AM) ogra: ..
(10:42:58 AM) ogra: A2 targeted specs:
(10:43:00 AM) ogra: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap
(10:43:02 AM) ogra: ..
(10:43:04 AM) ogra: Current Bugs:
(10:43:06 AM) ogra: bug 592688
(10:43:08 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 592688 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) "Timing issues with certain SD cards on beagleboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592688
(10:43:08 AM) ogra: bug 592045
(10:43:10 AM) ogra: bug 586386
(10:43:11 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 592045 in x-loader-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "[MIR] x-loader/x-loader-omap4/u-boot-omap3/u-boot-omap4" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592045
(10:43:12 AM) ogra: bug 589624
(10:43:12 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 586386 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Maverick) "omap3 kernel should hand over all comdline args to the init environment" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586386
(10:43:15 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 589624 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] omap flavour does not work on beagle XM board" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589624
(10:43:19 AM) ogra: ..
(10:43:19 AM) ogra: * We couldnt do much omap specific testing yet due to lacking images, so bug amount is still low, will rise towards A2 if people have images to test
(10:43:21 AM) ogra: * There are intrusive changes to the build infrastructure ahead pre-A2 !
(10:44:09 AM) ogra: we're not fully through the reanming process yet, (david is on vacation, we'll start to address that next week)
(10:44:17 AM) ogra: questions ?
(10:44:59 AM) robbiew: thnx ogra
(10:45:04 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] MOTU
(10:45:05 AM) MootBot: New Topic: MOTU
(10:45:33 AM) robbiew: I don't think there's anything for this week...but just in case
(10:46:02 AM) robbiew: awlrighty then...moving on
(10:46:06 AM) ScottK: No, nothing here
(10:46:14 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Downstream Derivatives
(10:46:15 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Downstream Derivatives
(10:46:18 AM) robbiew: new topic added
(10:46:25 AM) robbiew: as I had a feature milestoned
(10:46:27 AM) robbiew: from Linaro
(10:46:32 AM) ***JamieBennett waves
(10:47:06 AM) JamieBennett: Overall cycle specs done; spliting up into milestone chunks will be done for next meeting.
(10:47:14 AM) JamieBennett: New people coming on board and a bit of spec/work item modifying but good progress.
(10:47:22 AM) JamieBennett: Foundations
(10:47:34 AM) JamieBennett: Toolchain selection spec is worth mentioning. Basically, it had a slow start but we worked with Code Sourcery, who just joined our effort, and they provided doko with an initial patch; we have a first pass on the toolchain source and we need to finish the packaging.
(10:47:43 AM) JamieBennett: We also need to refactor the work items after the sprint held this week but good progress is being made.
(10:47:53 AM) JamieBennett: User Platforms
(10:47:59 AM) JamieBennett: Changes planned with archive impact planned for alpha-2 by user-platform:
(10:48:05 AM) JamieBennett: Get mesa/clutter/unity packaging for gles/egl in archive
(10:48:11 AM) JamieBennett: Start on getting qt-on-embedded packaged and in the archive
(10:48:16 AM) JamieBennett: Packaging up easy gps stuff like the gps widget and gypsy
(10:48:25 AM) JamieBennett: If time allows a few meego components may be added to the archive that we currently dont have ... but those wouldnt touch package currently used in the ubuntu seeds
(10:48:33 AM) JamieBennett: Some telephony packages may need adding
(10:48:37 AM) JamieBennett: Infrastructure
(10:48:43 AM) JamieBennett: Everything on track, work is ongoing, nothing to report atm.
(10:48:49 AM) JamieBennett: that is all
(10:49:00 AM) robbiew: Thanks JamieBennett. FWIW, other derivatives are welcomed/encouraged to get their features in Ubuntu...if they make sense and we agree to them ;)
(10:49:10 AM) JamieBennett: sure
(10:49:13 AM) robbiew: and if so...we can cover them in this section
(10:49:39 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] Known Regressions
(10:49:39 AM) MootBot: New Topic: Known Regressions
(10:50:37 AM) robbiew: for Maverick, only see bug 588861
(10:50:39 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 588861 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "Instances block in pending state, and don't start" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/588861
(10:50:44 AM) robbiew: and bug 560717
(10:50:47 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 560717 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) "ports kernel lacks device-mapper as built-in (causes LVM not to activate)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/560717
(10:50:51 AM) robbiew: both well in hand
(10:50:56 AM) Daviey: first one makes me sad :(
(10:51:33 AM) robbiew: all regressions make me sad
(10:51:38 AM) robbiew: :*(
(10:51:59 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] 10.04.1 LTS
(10:52:00 AM) MootBot: New Topic: 10.04.1 LTS
(10:52:09 AM) robbiew: Just need to keep folks aware
(10:52:32 AM) robbiew: not expecting reports on milestoned bugs...just yet ;)
(10:53:02 AM) JanC_ is now known as JanC
(10:53:08 AM) ***jdstrand can report on his
(10:53:09 AM) robbiew: for those wanting some cozy night reading: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+bugs?field.milestone=27560
(10:53:14 AM) robbiew: jdstrand: sure
(10:53:35 AM) robbiew: bah.../me put the wrong link in
(10:53:54 AM) robbiew: [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone=27565
(10:53:54 AM) MootBot: LINK received: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone=27565
(10:53:58 AM) jdstrand: bug #545795 got a patch submitted today
(10:54:00 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 545795 in libvirt (Ubuntu Maverick) "apparmor driver blocks access to hostdev and pcidev devices" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545795
(10:54:09 AM) robbiew: nice!
(10:54:11 AM) jdstrand: happily, it is very small and sane
(10:54:18 AM) jdstrand: :)
(10:54:25 AM) ScottK: I guess my comment on Bug #586497 fits better here.
(10:54:27 AM) ubottu: Launchpad bug 586497 in packagekit (Ubuntu Lucid) "kpackagekit install security update in automatic mode without authorization" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586497
(10:54:38 AM) jdstrand: so I'll work on that next week probably, when I do my libvirt merge for maverick
(10:54:54 AM) jdstrand: (assuming I can get to it... I keep trying)
(10:55:23 AM) robbiew: ScottK: ack
(10:55:49 AM) robbiew: [TOPIC] AOB
(10:55:50 AM) MootBot: New Topic: AOB
(10:55:58 AM) robbiew: any other business?
(10:56:11 AM) robbiew: questions...comments...rants...compliments...etc
(10:56:17 AM) ScottK: robbiew: Your script put quassel bugs in Universe, but it's in Main.
(10:56:28 AM) ScottK: (for the 10.04.1 stuff)
(10:56:45 AM) ScottK: (one more SRU I need to do ....)
(10:57:06 AM) robbiew: doh!
(10:57:13 AM) robbiew: ScottK: noted...sorry and thnx
(10:57:16 AM) robbiew: heh...my script
(10:57:18 AM) ScottK: No problem.
(10:57:23 AM) robbiew: no script...just my brain :/
(10:57:44 AM) robbiew: okay folks...guess that's it...
(10:57:57 AM) ogra: :)
(10:58:05 AM) robbiew: oh...and Go USA! Whoop those Brits tomorrow!
(10:58:06 AM) robbiew: lol
(10:58:11 AM) robbiew: #endmeeting
(10:58:12 AM) MootBot: Meeting finished at 10:58.
(10:58:16 AM) ogra: thanks :)