March 23rd, 2010, 13:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
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Action Items from March 16th, 2010
GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue
- persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony
- Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm)
QA Status (GrueMaster, plars)
ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet)
ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet)
- Any Other Business
- cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in
- ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk to report on kernel status
- plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back
- asac to upload libplist with -marm
- asac and dmart to get firefox rendering issue upstreamed
- plars informed the team that the iMX51 suspend issue seemed to be fixed now after recieving a new kernel.
- Unneeded images on antimony had been culled by StevenK and persia this week. ubuntu-desktop and alternative were the ones to go.
- asac asked StevenK about the status of webservice-office-zoho's inclusion into main, StevenK committed to promoting it as soon as possible.
- asac also asked dyfet about the status of the Canola packaging effort. Some discussion around upstream supporting future work on Canola happened with the conclusion that more commitment is needed from upstream before it can be included.
- Talked moved onto kernel status. cooloney confirmed plars recent comments that suspend was fixed on iMX51. cooloney also took the action item to investigate NEON optimizations for Karmic kernels.
The next subject was QA status. GrueMaster stated that beta 1 images looked 'very solid' but plars added that netboot still failed badly. Some bugs were still present but no blockers.
There were still sound issues present, probably pulseaudio related, but these were being worked on. Talk digressed into details, GrueMaster offered to test the latest ALSA tree but asac wanted more audio experts to comment on the bug first. plars took the action item to work with crimsun on the issue.
- dyfet mentioned that he had done a number of FTBFS related fixes. asac asked him to push these more to be sponsored.
- A more worrying FTBFS issue arose. The non-thumb2 supporting builders were failing to build libplist. asac suggested compiling with -marm instead until thumb2 builders become available.
- ogra reported that iMX51 and Dove images were stable and had been for a number of days. OMAP was still being prepared and x-loader and u-boot were in the archive but needed MIR'ing to main. A working kernel was not present so no images could be produced at the moment.
- Discussion then centered around web browsers. dmart and asac stated that they had seen issues with Google Maps on Firefox. asac committed to working with dmart to get the issue pushed upstream.
Paul Larson (plars)
- Beta 1 testing on imx51 and dove
- SRU verification of imx51 kernel to fix bug #507416 - it was discovered that CONFIG_NEON was not being set in the config
- Suspend/Resume testing and posting of results
- Suspend/Resume tests announced on QA mailing list
- Chromium testing
- Netperf and other performance testing on karmic with and without NEON enabled
- More testing
- Bringing up some new hardware
Alexander Sack (asac)
- 3 days on lean training
- help jamiebennett localize the webservice-office-zoho package
- uploaded libmad to #lucid fixing two armel ftbfs bugs lp:513734 lp:534287
- upload libplist - investigated why it fails on builders, but not here; seems we are finally struck by builders not supporting thumb2; workaround would be to use -marm or wait till new thumb2 enabled builders are up (i prefer the latter)
- forwarded endianess for floating point patch to debian
get overlay archives for supported SoCs setup
- investigate mono issues with upstream - cherry-picked a backported patch to fix 6 more test failures; rest is supposed to be fixed in 2.6 and backports seem to be too hard.
- get thunderbird 3.0 sdk packaged to unblock enigmail
- redo enigmail based on that
- help coordinate thunderbird 2 security update
- help chris cheney on epiphany backport to hardy. resolved a few issues and gave pointers on how to proceed.
- release team meeting
- some multi-soc archive discussion
Emmet Hikory (persia)
- Investigate schroot FTBFS (dot issues)
- Track down unnecessary armel images
- Try to identify outstanding issues for lubuntu as a flavour
- Retry some FTBFSs
Dave Martin (dmart)
- Ongoing SMP investigations (slowed down by some non-Ubuntu-specific platform problems)
Last bits of OpenOffice bug wrangling
- Continue SMP work.
- Continue Thumb-2 porting support.
David Sugar (dyfet)
- A number of broken dependencies and failed to builds fixed or otherwise patched, including squid, ziproxy, mgltools, and plasma-widget-message-indicator
- A number of additional ftbfs and broken dependencies also investigated
- sipwitch bugfix update for beta
- lightmediascanner salvageable from canola2 work as a new package submission
- Away end of week at Harvard Conference
- Away part of Monday
- Beta1 testing
- More ftbfs/build issues to be investigated and fixed
Jamie Bennett (JamieBennett)
- Two days lean training.
- Translation support research.
- Initial implementation of translation and distutils support for webservice-office-zoho. Lots of experimenting until finally a good solution was found using python-distutils-extra.
- FTBFS investigations but nothing concrete produced.
- Final push to get webservice-office-zoho into main.
- Triage and fix packages from the FTBFS list.
Tobin Davis (GrueMaster)
- Beta 1 testing. One respin. Fairly solid overall.
- Audio testing on Dove and imx51 platforms. Still issues with Pulse Audio.
- On Dove, playing 44100hz audio fails unless the user deletes everything in ~/.pulse.
- Some apps refuse to work through pulse, but work with alsa directly ok (totem, mpg123), where others work fine (ogg123).
- Tested suspend/resume on Dove with standard kernel and a test kernel supplied by apw. Need to do more thorough testing and get results to ericm next week.
- Started rough documentation for building and running lsb lib tests that we have. Still seeing errors, and I have no way of knowing if they are our errors or the test suite. Will finish up documenting and mark this as a good idea, but failed due to upstream.
- Network testing on Babbage. Try to determine what the issues are with downloading from a Windows server vs a Linux server.
- More snapshot testing.
Hope to get some real usage model testing done (Bluetooth audio & controller functionality, App testing, etc).
Michael Casadevall (NCommander)
- Marvell optimization continues
- OOo testing continues
- FTBFS fixing continues
- Finish Marvell optimization
- Fix more FTBFSes
Steve Kowalik (StevenK)
- Thursday archive admin duties.
- Fight to keep images building.
- Carried out OMAP enablement to build images for them.
12:57 < NCommander> #startmeeting 12:57 < MootBot> Meeting started at 08:00. The chair is NCommander. 12:57 < MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] 12:58 * ogra waves 12:58 < JamieBennett> moo 12:58 * GrueMaster blinks 12:58 < NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323 12:58 < MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323 12:58 < dyfet> rubs eyes 12:58 -!- dmart [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:58 < NCommander> [topic] Action Item Review 12:58 < MootBot> New Topic: Action Item Review 12:58 < NCommander> [topic] GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue 12:58 < MootBot> New Topic: GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue 12:58 < plars> seems to be fixed, from my perspective 12:58 < plars> tested a new kernel 12:59 < plars> this time, not just backing out patches, but with an actual fix 12:59 < plars> in both cases, I am no longer able to reproduce the bug 12:59 * davidm needs coffee 12:59 < ogra> ++ 12:59 < GrueMaster> davidm: grab me a cup, please. 12:59 < plars> GrueMaster: ? are you still seeing it though? iirc you were still able to reproduce it even with some of the kernels where I was not seeing it 13:00 < GrueMaster> I was going to look yesterday, but got pulled away. I'll look at it now. 13:00 -!- ZirconCode [~d3025be6@gateway/web/freenode/x-wrmaokexwyurbeep] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:00 -!- hyperair [~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:01 < GrueMaster> yesterday's image works for me. 13:01 < GrueMaster> I'll run your checkbox test later for more thorough testing. 13:02 < asac> hi 13:02 * NCommander waits for the goahead to move on 13:02 < plars> great! 13:02 < asac> NCommander: sending a round ping to all before starting would be a good addition to your services 13:02 < GrueMaster> Roll on one. 13:02 < asac> :) 13:02 < plars> NCommander: I think we're done 13:02 < NCommander> [topic] persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony 13:02 < MootBot> New Topic: persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony 13:02 < persia> StevenK: killed the last of them yesterday. 13:03 < persia> We ended up a bit delayed because of beta, but we're down to six images. 13:03 * ogra will add more :P 13:03 -!- worellana [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:03 * persia dreams of kernel unification 13:03 * NCommander +1s that dream 13:04 < StevenK> Yes, it will jump up to 9 13:04 < StevenK> Soon 13:04 < asac> persia: what images got killed? 13:04 -!- anmar [~anmar@CPE001b63f29e4b-CM001ac318bd2a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:04 < StevenK> asac: ubuntu-desktop alternate 13:04 < ogra> well, if we ever get a working kernel for omap at least 13:04 < asac> kk 13:05 < asac> ok 13:05 < asac> can we move on? 13:06 < NCommander> [topic] Standing Item Review 13:06 < MootBot> New Topic: Standing Item Review 13:06 < NCommander> [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html 13:06 < MootBot> New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html 13:06 < NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html 13:06 < MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html 13:07 < asac> ok seems all is waiting for me ;) 13:07 < asac> StevenK: is the webservice office part seeded? 13:07 < ogra> slacker ! 13:07 < ogra> :) 13:07 < plars> heh 13:07 < StevenK> Is it in main yet? 13:07 < asac> StevenK: it has an approved MIR 13:07 < asac> dyfet: Package and maintain Canola and deps in a ppa 13:07 < asac> whats going on there? 13:08 < StevenK> asac: Okay, give me the bug number and I'll sort it out tomorrow 13:08 -!- ZirconCode [~d3025be6@gateway/web/freenode/x-wrmaokexwyurbeep] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08 < StevenK> Promotion, seeding, etc, etc 13:08 < asac> StevenK: guess the only bug open against webservice-office-zoho ;) 13:08 < dyfet> We are not packaging the current canola stuff 13:08 < StevenK> I was guessing you had the bug number handy. Guess not. :-P 13:08 < dyfet> At least outside of a ppa 13:08 < JamieBennett> StevenK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/webservice-office-zoho/+bug/537323 13:08 < ubottu> Ubuntu bug 537323 in webservice-office-zoho "[MIR] Main inclusion request for webservice-office-zoho" [High,Fix released] 13:09 < asac> dyfet: that task is about getting the stuff in a ppa 13:09 < dyfet> It is in a ppa now for lucid :) 13:09 < asac> dyfet: which ppa? 13:09 < dyfet> We were hoping to archive it for lucid though 13:09 < asac> no archive was off the plate for a bit 13:09 < dyfet> It's a temporary one I setup...I can send you the url in just a sec 13:10 < asac> dyfet: please post that as a status update to the blueprint and set your work item to DONE 13:10 < dyfet> asac: https://launchpad.net/~dyfet/+archive/canola2 - okay, will do 13:10 < asac> dyfet: are all the packages in there, not in the archive? 13:10 < asac> or are some updates/patched packages? 13:11 < dyfet> They are all there and updated for current packaging policies 13:11 < dyfet> Originally I was hoping to push them to revu... 13:11 < asac> dyfet: i mean: is there any package in the ppa that isnt in the archvie? 13:11 < asac> err 13:11 < ogra> heh 13:11 < asac> any package that also is in the archive ;) 13:11 < dyfet> Probably not 13:11 < asac> i want to understand if all packages are NEW 13:11 < dyfet> Yes they are all new 13:12 < asac> ok 13:12 < asac> dyfet: so what makes you think this is not going to happen in the archive? 13:12 < dyfet> Because most are packages that are now abandoned 13:12 < asac> i dont understand that 13:12 < asac> please elaborate ;) 13:12 < dyfet> That is canola2 is being written using different dependencies 13:12 < dyfet> (re-written) 13:12 < asac> who is leading that effort 13:12 < dyfet> So episilon and all the etk stuff are dead-end packages 13:12 < asac> ? 13:13 < dyfet> I have to go back into my email... 13:13 < asac> lets take that offline 13:13 < asac> thanks for the update 13:13 < dyfet> okay :) 13:13 < NCommander> can I move on? 13:13 < asac> yes next standing item please 13:14 < NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm) 13:14 < MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm) 13:14 < cooloney> hi guys 13:14 < asac> hi cooloney 13:14 < cooloney> no much from my side 13:14 < asac> cooloney: one question 13:14 < cooloney> i think we fixed the suspend/resume regression 13:14 < cooloney> asac: yeah, 13:14 < asac> cooloney: do you have getting the NEON thing into karmic-proposed on your plate? 13:14 < asac> the kernel was dropped because of security update 13:15 < asac> and now we need to get that in again as some folks need that ;) 13:15 < ogra> asac, i thought smb wanted to care for it 13:15 < cooloney> asac: i did not track that, i assume it was in karmic-proposed already 13:15 < asac> ogra: nothing happened 13:15 < cooloney> right, smb helped that i think 13:15 < asac> cooloney: it was in tehre, got dropped and yesterday nothing has happened 13:15 < asac> cooloney: can you drive this? e.g. poke smb etc.? 13:16 < cooloney> actually, i did not test karmic for several weeks 13:16 -!- nigelb [~nigelb@ubuntu/member/nigelb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:16 < cooloney> asac: no problem, please an action item for me 13:16 < cooloney> s/an/add 13:16 < asac> [ACTION] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:16 < ogra> i just pinged him in the other channel, please take over :) 13:16 < asac> NCommander: ^ 13:16 < cooloney> ogra: thanks man 13:16 < asac> cooloney: suspend/resume: did you close the bug? 13:16 < asac> ;) 13:17 < cooloney> asac: yeah, it should be close since the patch was merged 13:17 < asac> found that kernel bugs often dont get closed when they are fixed 13:17 < asac> cool 13:17 < NCommander> [action] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:17 < MootBot> ACTION received: cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:17 < GrueMaster> asac: Little premature. Let me run the test suite today first. 13:17 < asac> cooloney: ok.thanks 13:17 < asac> ericm isnt here 13:17 < asac> lets move on then 13:17 < plars> GrueMaster: I believe it's just going into proposed at this point 13:17 < ogra> amitk isnt either :( 13:18 * ogra would like an update on the omap kernel 13:18 < ogra> we need to invite him for future meetings 13:18 * asac takes care that they get in next time 13:18 < asac> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:18 < NCommander> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 < MootBot> ACTION received: ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 < NCommander> asac: ericm should be here 13:19 < ogra> he has a standing invite 13:19 < asac> NCommander: not for me ;) 13:19 < NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, plars) 13:19 < MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster, plars) 13:19 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has quit [Quit: DavidLevin] 13:19 * asac hands mic to GrueMaster 13:20 * ogra moves to the edge of his seat in awe and excitement 13:20 < GrueMaster> Beta 1 looks very solid. Still some bugs to work on, but major progress towards image stability has been made. 13:20 < plars> beta testing done, netboot images failed pretty badly, other than that, and a carried over bug on imx51 (dup of a non-arm specific bug) images were in pretty good shape 13:20 < plars> suspend/resume results have started to show up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing 13:21 < asac> GrueMaster: any bugs of particual interest that need to be worked/discussed? 13:21 < ogra> cooloney asked about a graphics issue on imx51 recently 13:21 < ogra> that seemsed to show up since plymouth changed 13:21 < plars> I was unable to reproduce that on babbage 3, but he mentioned that he was on 2.5 13:22 < cooloney> ogra: sorry, 13:22 < GrueMaster> We are still having sound issues on Dove. 13:22 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:22 < cooloney> i did apt-get dist-upgrade 13:22 < cooloney> now it works fine 13:22 < ogra> ok 13:22 < ogra> then i'll count that as a non-issue :D 13:22 < plars> GrueMaster: sound issues are on both imx51 and dove 13:22 < asac> same issues? 13:22 < plars> but yes, I've done some more debugging on the dove one, and need to go get straces now 13:22 < asac> all pulseaudio related? 13:22 < plars> unless someone beats me to it 13:23 < plars> seems so,k yes 13:23 -!- leoquant [~leor@ubuntu/member/leoquant] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:23 < cooloney> ogra: do you have any feedback about the regular issue from fsl? 13:23 < asac> plars: do we have simple test cases in the bugs? 13:24 < plars> asac: yes 13:24 < cooloney> regulator 13:24 < cooloney> sorry 13:24 < plars> very 13:24 < ogra> cooloney, nope, we pointed it out in the last call but no answer yet 13:24 < ogra> asac, ^^^ lets poke again tonight 13:24 < cooloney> ogra: got you 13:24 < asac> yeah 13:24 < ogra> and start considering it as nice-to-have probably 13:25 < GrueMaster> The sound bug on Dove is Bug #528524 13:25 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 528524 in pulseaudio "Sound not working in all apps on dove" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528524 13:25 < ogra> i.e. make it vanish from the action items 13:25 < ogra> s/action/work/ 13:25 < asac> plars: the checkbox result pacge. 13:25 < asac> maybe this can have an executive summary on top? 13:26 < asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing/SusresResults/imx51-20100318 13:26 < asac> thats where i am looking at 13:26 < plars> asac: the easiest thing to do is to click on "questions" 13:26 < plars> and focus on that section for results 13:26 < persia> Sound issues on specific hardware are very unlikely to be related to pulseaudio in anyway. It's most likely an ASoC issue or some mismatch between ALSA lib versions. 13:26 < plars> I basically just convert the output to a wiki format as best as possible with my rudimentary knowledge of xslt 13:27 < asac> well. pulse needs some sophisitaction of the drivers 13:27 < asac> mighzt be that ours are just too dumb ;) 13:27 < asac> plars: yeah tahts fine 13:27 < asac> plars: what are we doing with those that failed? 13:27 < persia> asac: pulse *doesn't* have drivers. ALSA/ASoC do. 13:28 < asac> persia: yes, but the issue is still a pulse issue as its unconvered by it ;) 13:28 < asac> sure its a driver issue in the end 13:28 < asac> just a pulse specific one ;) 13:28 < plars> asac: bugs are in for them, I'll try to go back and update with the bug #'s... at least one failed because of something I need to fix in the test. I'll get that fixed up and update 13:28 < asac> (if its pulse related at all) 13:28 < persia> I guess, but it can't be fixed in pulseaudio, so I still say the bug isn't targeted properly :) 13:28 -!- jMyles [~email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:28 < asac> plars: the "wait a bit after resume so the CPU settled" fix? 13:29 < plars> asac: yes, exactly 13:29 < plars> really just needed in that one case 13:29 < plars> because of timing 13:29 < asac> persia: well. pulseaudio folks are best to analyze that imo as they are the ones that know what the driver needs to support ... 13:29 < asac> persia: but yeah we can move it to alsa 13:29 < asac> the alsa folks should be aware now ;) 13:29 < asac> ok lets move on 13:29 < persia> Is it ALSA or ASoC for that board? 13:30 < asac> cooloney: ? 13:30 -!- njpatel_ [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:30 < cooloney> persia: is ASoC 13:30 < cooloney> actually ASoC is a sub system of ALSA in kernel 13:30 < asac> what does it stand for? 13:30 < persia> Right, so let's retarget it to "linux-mvl-..." 13:30 < cooloney> it's good for SoC's 13:31 < persia> ALSA System On a Chip 13:31 < cooloney> ALSA SoC = ASoC 13:31 < cooloney> yeah 13:31 < cooloney> System on Chip 13:31 < asac> if we target it aganist linux-mvl- ... this has to be fixed by mvl 13:31 < asac> if we use alsa, some random guy might have some ideas - guess the code is public 13:32 < ogra> linux-mvl- is too 13:32 < asac> ogra: yes, but noone knowing anything about sound is subscribed to that package 13:32 < persia> And it's 90% likely to be an issue with quirking in the ASoC stuff. 13:32 * GrueMaster is going to regret this but... 13:32 < persia> asac: If you want crimsun to look at the bug, that's just a matter of asking :) 13:33 < GrueMaster> How about if I check the latest alsa? 13:33 < persia> GrueMaster: That's another good idea. 13:33 < asac> GrueMaster: how much time would that take? 13:33 * asac doorbell 13:33 < ogra> ALSA or ASoC dorbell ? 13:34 < GrueMaster> asac: I don't know off hand. Need to download the code and build against current kernel. Also will need the existing audio disabled in the kernel. two days for build time? 13:34 < asac> lets first get crimsun etc. comment on the bug 13:34 < persia> GrueMaster: Take care: if it's ASoC, ALSA trunk won't help much. 13:34 < asac> and then decide what to do 13:34 < plars> asac: he has been looking at it 13:34 < GrueMaster> persia: why do you say that? 13:35 < asac> plars: what did he say? 13:35 < plars> asac: next thing he asked for was a stack trace 13:35 < plars> that was last night, and I haven't had a chance yet 13:35 < asac> ok cool. do what he says for now 13:35 < persia> GrueMaster: Last I heard, ASoC included a number of patches to some ALSA stuff that meant it was better to pull ASoC trunk than ALSA trunk to play. I may not be current, or I may even be wrong. 13:35 < plars> asac: I will do it this morning 13:36 < asac> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < asac> NCommander: ^^ 13:36 < asac> thanks 13:36 < asac> lets move on ;) 13:36 < GrueMaster> I've seen a bunch of ASOC patches fly through the alsa mailing list recently. 13:36 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet) 13:36 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet) 13:36 -!- ubuntujenkins [~Luke@rutherford-221-4.halls.student.lut.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Off to do more work] 13:36 < NCommander> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < MootBot> ACTION received: plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < cooloney> yeah, ASoC is in the heavy development 13:36 < cooloney> since it supports hundreds of SOC and hundreds of CODEC 13:37 < persia> Yeah. 13:37 < JamieBennett> Not much to report, webservice-office-zoho needs seeding and this branch needs sponsoring: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jamiebennett/+junk/webservice-office-zoho.auto.distutils 13:37 < persia> Moving on ... 13:37 < cooloney> but for userspace, it is supposed to be the same as alsa 13:37 < cooloney> ok 13:37 < asac> JamieBennett: can you produce the packaging? 13:38 < asac> e.g. the three pieces? 13:38 < JamieBennett> asac: OK 13:38 < asac> we have to redo the branches and kill the debian/ part of it so i can sponsor it ;) 13:39 < JamieBennett> asac: OK I'll chat after the meeting about it 13:39 < JamieBennett> move on? 13:39 < asac> yes 13:39 -!- tremolux [~email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:40 < JamieBennett> NCommander: ^ 13:40 < JamieBennett> heh 13:41 < ogra> can someone call his mobile ? :P 13:41 < JamieBennett> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:41 < plars> yeah, sec 13:41 < ogra> we need a remote controlled ship-horn near his laptop :) 13:41 < dyfet> I did a number of ftbfs/missing deps last week. I will list them on the status page 13:42 < asac> dyfet: did those get uploaded? 13:42 < StevenK> ogra: "foghorn" 13:42 < NCommander> sorry 13:42 < ogra> StevenK, ah, that was the word, yeah 13:42 < dyfet> I know NCommander offered to sponsor a few 13:42 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:42 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:42 < asac> dyfet: please more aggressively request sponsorship from me too 13:42 < dyfet> okay :) 13:42 < ogra> StevenK, publically accessible via a webpage (and i'll blog about it :) ) 13:43 < asac> things shouldnt wait for an upload longer than half a day 13:43 * NCommander got distracted by his other half 13:43 < asac> dyfet: which packages are those you fixed? anything from main still? 13:43 < StevenK> Huh? ECONTEXT 13:43 -!- dmart [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43 < dyfet> A couple were from main, including a kde related package 13:43 < NCommander> OOo's fix uploaded, and the build broke. Seems to be buildd instability, but will have to watch closely 13:44 < ogra> did you see likewise FTBFS ? 13:44 -!- tremolux [~email@example.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:44 * ogra gave it back, seemed to be a segfault 13:44 < ogra> please keep an eye on it though 13:44 < NCommander> ogra: do I hadn't 13:44 < NCommander> *no 13:45 -!- dmart [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:45 -!- robbiew [~RobbieWil@99-156-85-10.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:45 * dmart reconnects 13:45 < asac> so for libplist we ended up in a situation where builders fail 13:45 < NCommander> anything else? 13:45 < asac> because they dont have thumb support 13:45 < ogra> ugh 13:45 < asac> its testcases that get sigill 13:45 < asac> so its the first time we have that 13:45 < ogra> thats the first package we have failing like that 13:45 < dmart> Aren't the builders v7? 13:46 < ogra> snap 13:46 < asac> dmart: kernel isnt 13:46 < asac> dmart: i would think 13:46 < asac> its pegatron 13:46 < NCommander> ogra: can't we disable sigill? 13:46 < NCommander> er 13:46 < asac> so we can wait for the builder upgrade 13:46 < NCommander> *cough* 13:46 < NCommander> the test case 13:46 * asac pokes lamont again 13:46 < ogra> asac, can we ? 13:46 < asac> or use -marm to get that built 13:46 < dmart> Thumb-2 in userspace should still be supported. 13:46 < ogra> when is that due ? 13:46 < dmart> Localised -marm might be OK as a solution 13:46 < asac> dmart: it definitly isnt on those machines. it works well here on bbg/dove and in chroots on both 13:46 < dmart> Is libplist important? 13:46 < asac> when logging into the pegatrons i get SIGILL 13:46 < asac> dmart: its in main 13:47 < asac> dmart: i fixed endianess for floating point, so at least we should use -marm 13:47 < dmart> I mean, is it performance- or code-size- critical in any way? 13:47 < ogra> unlikely 13:47 < asac> dmart: i dont think so 13:47 < asac> its used by: 13:47 < asac> python-imobiledevice 13:47 < asac> libplist-utils 13:47 < asac> libimobiledevice-utils 13:47 < asac> python-gpod 13:47 < persia> It's really only important for dealing with client iPods. 13:47 < asac> libplist-dev 13:47 < asac> libplist-dbg 13:47 < asac> libplist++1 13:47 < dmart> -marm is probably OK then 13:47 < asac> libplist++-dev 13:48 < asac> libimobiledevice0 13:48 < asac> libgpod4-nogtk 13:48 < asac> libgpod4 13:48 < ogra> Description: Library for handling Apple binary and XML property lists 13:48 < asac> libgpod-common 13:48 < persia> !paste | asac 13:48 < ubottu> asac: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. 13:48 < asac> (sorry for the ast) 13:48 < asac> yeah pod 13:48 < asac> dmart: ok. lets do that and retry without when we have the bbg builders 13:48 < asac> persia: you just created additional noise 13:48 < dmart> OK 13:48 < asac> for no news ;) 13:48 * asac will upload with -marm 13:48 < asac> ok thats it from my side 13:48 < ogra> move on ? 13:48 < NCommander> [action] asac to upload libplist with -marm 13:48 < MootBot> ACTION received: asac to upload libplist with -marm 13:49 < NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business 13:49 < MootBot> New Topic: Any Other Business 13:49 * ogra kicks NCommander 13:49 -!- leoquant [~leor@ubuntu/member/leoquant] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:49 < ogra> move one back 13:49 < asac> what did he skip? 13:49 < ogra> image status 13:49 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status 13:49 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status 13:49 < ogra> heh 13:49 * NCommander is not with it this morning 13:49 < ogra> imx51 and dove images build stable since several days and look good 13:50 < ogra> omap is in preparation 13:50 < ogra> x-loader and u-boot are in the archive, MIRs will be filed today 13:50 * dmart has an AOB (delayed by looking up the bug number) 13:50 < asac> when do we expect the first images to become available? 13:50 -!- Rafik [~29e58c82@ubuntu/member/rafik] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:50 < asac> dmart: thats next ;) 13:50 < ogra> i'll shove them on asac's desk then 13:50 < asac> thanks 13:50 < dmart> k 13:50 < ogra> the kernel isnt there yet 13:50 < ogra> so without kernel no images 13:51 < ogra> as soon as its there its a matter of 1-2 days 13:51 < asac> ogra: thought the kernel just didnt boot ;)= 13:51 < ogra> me working out the image concept and testing it, StevenK committing it to the builders 13:51 < asac> e.g. we could get images with a non-booting kernel 13:51 < ogra> asac, it has tons of bugs 13:51 < ogra> its not in the archive 13:51 < asac> right. just wonder why waiting for the kernel blocks finishing all the imaging stuff 13:51 < ogra> i wouldnt mind having buggy images 13:51 < asac> ah 13:51 < ogra> but it needs to be uploaded and go through NEW 13:51 -!- wet [~email@example.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 < ogra> and we dont have a meta yet 13:52 < ogra> which d-i needs 13:52 < ogra> for our fallback images 13:52 < ogra> everything blocks on that atm 13:52 < StevenK> asac: Because I need to see where the kernels lands, main or universe for my livecd-rootfs changes 13:52 < StevenK> And a meta package for the kernel 13:52 < ogra> StevenK, will be main 13:52 < asac> main yeah 13:52 < ogra> but meta needs to be there and we need the debian-cd patches 13:53 < ogra> or cdimage ... fwiw 13:53 < StevenK> Both 13:53 < StevenK> I'll upload livecd-rootfs tomorrow 13:53 < StevenK> Er, today 13:53 < ogra> great 13:53 < StevenK> At some point in the next diurnal period 13:53 < ogra> so i can roll squashfs'es for testing 13:53 < ogra> as soon as we have a kernel 13:53 < StevenK> You can't, since it will want the kernel 13:53 < StevenK> Ah 13:53 < ogra> yeah 13:54 -!- tremolux [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:54 < ogra> for image building we should be able to abuse the code dove uses 13:54 < asac> ok so imx51/dove are good and we should have an omap image by end of week. sounds good ;) 13:54 < ogra> just adding two cp's to get MLO and u-boot in place 13:54 -!- ameetp [~email@example.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:54 < ogra> right 13:54 < ogra> move on 13:54 < NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business 13:54 < MootBot> New Topic: Any Other Business 13:54 < asac> dmart: ^ 13:55 < dmart> Thanks ;) 13:55 < dmart> I just reconfirmed this one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/443147 13:55 < StevenK> ogra: I think about the only thing is how to make the image bootable 13:55 < ubottu> Ubuntu bug 443147 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox inappropriately adds scroll bars to many frames and images" [Medium,Triaged] 13:55 < dmart> It applies to 3.6 too 13:55 -!- worellana_ [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:55 -!- worellana [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56 -!- Claudinux [~claudio@unaffiliated/claudinux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:56 < asac> hmm 13:56 < dmart> I'm wondering whether the priority should be bumped 13:56 < asac> found issue? 13:56 < ogra> StevenK, right, the vfat might need to be special (active and marked bootable or some such) 13:56 -!- worellana_ is now known as worellana 13:56 < asac> let me try 13:56 < dmart> The pain really starts when Google maps starts drawing balloons 13:56 < StevenK> ogra: Anyway, you and I can sort that out once we have a kernel 13:56 < ogra> StevenK, beyond that we only need to copy the two binaries into the vfat in the right order (MLO needs to be in the first sectors of the image) 13:57 < ogra> right 13:57 < asac> dmart: i dont see it if i start it through ssh 13:57 < asac> dmart: thats bbg? 13:58 < dmart> Yes, hang on I'll see what happens with ssh for me... 13:58 < asac> the chromium dove issue definitly persists through ssh 13:58 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has quit [Quit: DavidLevin] 13:58 < asac> so if this doesnt it means its coming from X server somehow 13:58 -!- wet [~firstname.lastname@example.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:58 < asac> try setting browser.zoom.full to false in about:config 13:58 < asac> and zoom out using ctrl-- 13:59 < asac> maybe it goes away with smaller fonts? 13:59 < asac> hmm i see it on google maps 13:59 * NCommander notes we're now over 13:59 < NCommander> asac: can you take this discussion offline? 13:59 < asac> yeah. that bug should get upstreamed 14:00 < asac> and so on 14:00 < asac> wilil follow up 14:00 < NCommander> anything else to be brought up quickly? 14:00 < asac> nope 14:00 < asac> go ahead and close the meeting ;) 14:00 < NCommander> [action] asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug 14:00 < MootBot> ACTION received: asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug 14:00 < NCommander> #endmeeting 14:00 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:02. 14:00 < dmart> asac, I'll follow up with you on this in a moment 14:00 < asac> yeah 14:00 < GrueMaster> Also, I will hopefully have the equipment to reproduce/debug Bug #519905 this week. 14:00 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 519905 in linux-fsl-imx51 "Slow Ethernet throughput and framing errors when connected via a hub" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519905