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March 23rd, 2010, 13:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
Agenda
Meeting Links
- Link to previous meeting
- Link to next meeting
Action Items from March 16th, 2010
GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue
- persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony
Standing Items
http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html
http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html
- Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm)
QA Status (GrueMaster, plars)
ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet)
ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet)
- Any Other Business
Meeting Outcome
Action Items
- To be added.
Minutes
- To be added.
Weekly Reports
Paul Larson (plars)
This Week
- Beta 1 testing on imx51 and dove
- SRU verification of imx51 kernel to fix bug #507416 - it was discovered that CONFIG_NEON was not being set in the config
- Suspend/Resume testing and posting of results
- Suspend/Resume tests announced on QA mailing list
- Chromium testing
- Netperf and other performance testing on karmic with and without NEON enabled
Future
- More testing
- Bringing up some new hardware
Alexander Sack (asac)
This Week
- 3 days on lean training
- help jamiebennett localize the webservice-office-zoho package
- uploaded libmad to #lucid fixing two armel ftbfs bugs lp:513734 lp:534287
- upload libplist - investigated why it fails on builders, but not here; seems we are finally struck by builders not supporting thumb2; workaround would be to use -marm or wait till new thumb2 enabled builders are up (i prefer the latter)
- forwarded endianess for floating point patch to debian
get overlay archives for supported SoCs setup
- investigate mono issues with upstream - cherry-picked a backported patch to fix 6 more test failures; rest is supposed to be fixed in 2.6 and backports seem to be too hard.
- get thunderbird 3.0 sdk packaged to unblock enigmail
- redo enigmail based on that
- help coordinate thunderbird 2 security update
- help chris cheney on epiphany backport to hardy. resolved a few issues and gave pointers on how to proceed.
- release team meeting
- some multi-soc archive discussion
Emmet Hikory (persia)
This Week
- Investigate schroot FTBFS (dot issues)
- Track down unnecessary armel images
- Try to identify outstanding issues for lubuntu as a flavour
- Retry some FTBFSs
Dave Martin (dmart)
This Week
- Ongoing SMP investigations (slowed down by some non-Ubuntu-specific platform problems)
Last bits of OpenOffice bug wrangling
Future
- Continue SMP work.
- Continue Thumb-2 porting support.
David Sugar (dyfet)
This Week
- A number of broken dependencies and failed to builds fixed or otherwise patched, including squid, ziproxy, mgltools, and plasma-widget-message-indicator
- A number of additional ftbfs and broken dependencies also investigated
- sipwitch bugfix update for beta
- lightmediascanner salvageable from canola2 work as a new package submission
- Away end of week at Harvard Conference
Future
- Away part of Monday
- Beta1 testing
- More ftbfs/build issues to be investigated and fixed
Jamie Bennett (JamieBennett)
This Week
- Two days lean training.
- Translation support research.
- Initial implementation of translation and distutils support for webservice-office-zoho. Lots of experimenting until finally a good solution was found using python-distutils-extra.
- FTBFS investigations but nothing concrete produced.
Future
- Final push to get webservice-office-zoho into main.
- Triage and fix packages from the FTBFS list.
Meeting Log
12:57 < NCommander> #startmeeting 12:57 < MootBot> Meeting started at 08:00. The chair is NCommander. 12:57 < MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] 12:58 * ogra waves 12:58 < JamieBennett> moo 12:58 * GrueMaster blinks 12:58 < NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323 12:58 < MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100323 12:58 < dyfet> rubs eyes 12:58 -!- dmart [~chatzilla@fw-tnat.cambridge.arm.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12:58 < NCommander> [topic] Action Item Review 12:58 < MootBot> New Topic: Action Item Review 12:58 < NCommander> [topic] GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue 12:58 < MootBot> New Topic: GrueMaster & plars to investigate imx51 suspend issue 12:58 < plars> seems to be fixed, from my perspective 12:58 < plars> tested a new kernel 12:59 < plars> this time, not just backing out patches, but with an actual fix 12:59 < plars> in both cases, I am no longer able to reproduce the bug 12:59 * davidm needs coffee 12:59 < ogra> ++ 12:59 < GrueMaster> davidm: grab me a cup, please. 12:59 < plars> GrueMaster: ? are you still seeing it though? iirc you were still able to reproduce it even with some of the kernels where I was not seeing it 13:00 < GrueMaster> I was going to look yesterday, but got pulled away. I'll look at it now. 13:00 -!- ZirconCode [~d3025be6@gateway/web/freenode/x-wrmaokexwyurbeep] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:00 -!- hyperair [~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:01 < GrueMaster> yesterday's image works for me. 13:01 < GrueMaster> I'll run your checkbox test later for more thorough testing. 13:02 < asac> hi 13:02 * NCommander waits for the goahead to move on 13:02 < plars> great! 13:02 < asac> NCommander: sending a round ping to all before starting would be a good addition to your services 13:02 < GrueMaster> Roll on one. 13:02 < asac> :) 13:02 < plars> NCommander: I think we're done 13:02 < NCommander> [topic] persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony 13:02 < MootBot> New Topic: persia to bring remove any unneeded images from antimony 13:02 < persia> StevenK: killed the last of them yesterday. 13:03 < persia> We ended up a bit delayed because of beta, but we're down to six images. 13:03 * ogra will add more :P 13:03 -!- worellana [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:03 * persia dreams of kernel unification 13:03 * NCommander +1s that dream 13:04 < StevenK> Yes, it will jump up to 9 13:04 < StevenK> Soon 13:04 < asac> persia: what images got killed? 13:04 -!- anmar [~anmar@CPE001b63f29e4b-CM001ac318bd2a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:04 < StevenK> asac: ubuntu-desktop alternate 13:04 < ogra> well, if we ever get a working kernel for omap at least 13:04 < asac> kk 13:05 < asac> ok 13:05 < asac> can we move on? 13:06 < NCommander> [topic] Standing Item Review 13:06 < MootBot> New Topic: Standing Item Review 13:06 < NCommander> [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html 13:06 < MootBot> New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile.html 13:06 < NCommander> [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html 13:06 < MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.04-beta-2.html 13:07 < asac> ok seems all is waiting for me ;) 13:07 < asac> StevenK: is the webservice office part seeded? 13:07 < ogra> slacker ! 13:07 < ogra> :) 13:07 < plars> heh 13:07 < StevenK> Is it in main yet? 13:07 < asac> StevenK: it has an approved MIR 13:07 < asac> dyfet: Package and maintain Canola and deps in a ppa 13:07 < asac> whats going on there? 13:08 < StevenK> asac: Okay, give me the bug number and I'll sort it out tomorrow 13:08 -!- ZirconCode [~d3025be6@gateway/web/freenode/x-wrmaokexwyurbeep] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08 < StevenK> Promotion, seeding, etc, etc 13:08 < asac> StevenK: guess the only bug open against webservice-office-zoho ;) 13:08 < dyfet> We are not packaging the current canola stuff 13:08 < StevenK> I was guessing you had the bug number handy. Guess not. :-P 13:08 < dyfet> At least outside of a ppa 13:08 < JamieBennett> StevenK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/webservice-office-zoho/+bug/537323 13:08 < ubottu> Ubuntu bug 537323 in webservice-office-zoho "[MIR] Main inclusion request for webservice-office-zoho" [High,Fix released] 13:09 < asac> dyfet: that task is about getting the stuff in a ppa 13:09 < dyfet> It is in a ppa now for lucid :) 13:09 < asac> dyfet: which ppa? 13:09 < dyfet> We were hoping to archive it for lucid though 13:09 < asac> no archive was off the plate for a bit 13:09 < dyfet> It's a temporary one I setup...I can send you the url in just a sec 13:10 < asac> dyfet: please post that as a status update to the blueprint and set your work item to DONE 13:10 < dyfet> asac: https://launchpad.net/~dyfet/+archive/canola2 - okay, will do 13:10 < asac> dyfet: are all the packages in there, not in the archive? 13:10 < asac> or are some updates/patched packages? 13:11 < dyfet> They are all there and updated for current packaging policies 13:11 < dyfet> Originally I was hoping to push them to revu... 13:11 < asac> dyfet: i mean: is there any package in the ppa that isnt in the archvie? 13:11 < asac> err 13:11 < ogra> heh 13:11 < asac> any package that also is in the archive ;) 13:11 < dyfet> Probably not 13:11 < asac> i want to understand if all packages are NEW 13:11 < dyfet> Yes they are all new 13:12 < asac> ok 13:12 < asac> dyfet: so what makes you think this is not going to happen in the archive? 13:12 < dyfet> Because most are packages that are now abandoned 13:12 < asac> i dont understand that 13:12 < asac> please elaborate ;) 13:12 < dyfet> That is canola2 is being written using different dependencies 13:12 < dyfet> (re-written) 13:12 < asac> who is leading that effort 13:12 < dyfet> So episilon and all the etk stuff are dead-end packages 13:12 < asac> ? 13:13 < dyfet> I have to go back into my email... 13:13 < asac> lets take that offline 13:13 < asac> thanks for the update 13:13 < dyfet> okay :) 13:13 < NCommander> can I move on? 13:13 < asac> yes next standing item please 13:14 < NCommander> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm) 13:14 < MootBot> New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, ericm) 13:14 < cooloney> hi guys 13:14 < asac> hi cooloney 13:14 < cooloney> no much from my side 13:14 < asac> cooloney: one question 13:14 < cooloney> i think we fixed the suspend/resume regression 13:14 < cooloney> asac: yeah, 13:14 < asac> cooloney: do you have getting the NEON thing into karmic-proposed on your plate? 13:14 < asac> the kernel was dropped because of security update 13:15 < asac> and now we need to get that in again as some folks need that ;) 13:15 < ogra> asac, i thought smb wanted to care for it 13:15 < cooloney> asac: i did not track that, i assume it was in karmic-proposed already 13:15 < asac> ogra: nothing happened 13:15 < cooloney> right, smb helped that i think 13:15 < asac> cooloney: it was in tehre, got dropped and yesterday nothing has happened 13:15 < asac> cooloney: can you drive this? e.g. poke smb etc.? 13:16 < cooloney> actually, i did not test karmic for several weeks 13:16 -!- nigelb [~nigelb@ubuntu/member/nigelb] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:16 < cooloney> asac: no problem, please an action item for me 13:16 < cooloney> s/an/add 13:16 < asac> [ACTION] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:16 < ogra> i just pinged him in the other channel, please take over :) 13:16 < asac> NCommander: ^ 13:16 < cooloney> ogra: thanks man 13:16 < asac> cooloney: suspend/resume: did you close the bug? 13:16 < asac> ;) 13:17 < cooloney> asac: yeah, it should be close since the patch was merged 13:17 < asac> found that kernel bugs often dont get closed when they are fixed 13:17 < asac> cool 13:17 < NCommander> [action] cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:17 < MootBot> ACTION received: cooloney to get karmic-proposed imx51 kernel with NEON fix in 13:17 < GrueMaster> asac: Little premature. Let me run the test suite today first. 13:17 < asac> cooloney: ok.thanks 13:17 < asac> ericm isnt here 13:17 < asac> lets move on then 13:17 < plars> GrueMaster: I believe it's just going into proposed at this point 13:17 < ogra> amitk isnt either :( 13:18 * ogra would like an update on the omap kernel 13:18 < ogra> we need to invite him for future meetings 13:18 * asac takes care that they get in next time 13:18 < asac> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 -!- meanburrito920_ [~john@unaffiliated/meanburrito920] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:18 < NCommander> [ACTION] ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 < MootBot> ACTION received: ncommander to extend invite to ericm and amitk 13:18 < NCommander> asac: ericm should be here 13:19 < ogra> he has a standing invite 13:19 < asac> NCommander: not for me ;) 13:19 < NCommander> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster, plars) 13:19 < MootBot> New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster, plars) 13:19 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has quit [Quit: DavidLevin] 13:19 * asac hands mic to GrueMaster 13:20 * ogra moves to the edge of his seat in awe and excitement 13:20 < GrueMaster> Beta 1 looks very solid. Still some bugs to work on, but major progress towards image stability has been made. 13:20 < plars> beta testing done, netboot images failed pretty badly, other than that, and a carried over bug on imx51 (dup of a non-arm specific bug) images were in pretty good shape 13:20 < plars> suspend/resume results have started to show up on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing 13:21 < asac> GrueMaster: any bugs of particual interest that need to be worked/discussed? 13:21 < ogra> cooloney asked about a graphics issue on imx51 recently 13:21 < ogra> that seemsed to show up since plymouth changed 13:21 < plars> I was unable to reproduce that on babbage 3, but he mentioned that he was on 2.5 13:22 < cooloney> ogra: sorry, 13:22 < GrueMaster> We are still having sound issues on Dove. 13:22 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:22 < cooloney> i did apt-get dist-upgrade 13:22 < cooloney> now it works fine 13:22 < ogra> ok 13:22 < ogra> then i'll count that as a non-issue :D 13:22 < plars> GrueMaster: sound issues are on both imx51 and dove 13:22 < asac> same issues? 13:22 < plars> but yes, I've done some more debugging on the dove one, and need to go get straces now 13:22 < asac> all pulseaudio related? 13:22 < plars> unless someone beats me to it 13:23 < plars> seems so,k yes 13:23 -!- leoquant [~leor@ubuntu/member/leoquant] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:23 < cooloney> ogra: do you have any feedback about the regular issue from fsl? 13:23 < asac> plars: do we have simple test cases in the bugs? 13:24 < plars> asac: yes 13:24 < cooloney> regulator 13:24 < cooloney> sorry 13:24 < plars> very 13:24 < ogra> cooloney, nope, we pointed it out in the last call but no answer yet 13:24 < ogra> asac, ^^^ lets poke again tonight 13:24 < cooloney> ogra: got you 13:24 < asac> yeah 13:24 < ogra> and start considering it as nice-to-have probably 13:25 < GrueMaster> The sound bug on Dove is Bug #528524 13:25 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 528524 in pulseaudio "Sound not working in all apps on dove" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/528524 13:25 < ogra> i.e. make it vanish from the action items 13:25 < ogra> s/action/work/ 13:25 < asac> plars: the checkbox result pacge. 13:25 < asac> maybe this can have an executive summary on top? 13:26 < asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Testing/SusresResults/imx51-20100318 13:26 < asac> thats where i am looking at 13:26 < plars> asac: the easiest thing to do is to click on "questions" 13:26 < plars> and focus on that section for results 13:26 < persia> Sound issues on specific hardware are very unlikely to be related to pulseaudio in anyway. It's most likely an ASoC issue or some mismatch between ALSA lib versions. 13:26 < plars> I basically just convert the output to a wiki format as best as possible with my rudimentary knowledge of xslt 13:27 < asac> well. pulse needs some sophisitaction of the drivers 13:27 < asac> mighzt be that ours are just too dumb ;) 13:27 < asac> plars: yeah tahts fine 13:27 < asac> plars: what are we doing with those that failed? 13:27 < persia> asac: pulse *doesn't* have drivers. ALSA/ASoC do. 13:28 < asac> persia: yes, but the issue is still a pulse issue as its unconvered by it ;) 13:28 < asac> sure its a driver issue in the end 13:28 < asac> just a pulse specific one ;) 13:28 < plars> asac: bugs are in for them, I'll try to go back and update with the bug #'s... at least one failed because of something I need to fix in the test. I'll get that fixed up and update 13:28 < asac> (if its pulse related at all) 13:28 < persia> I guess, but it can't be fixed in pulseaudio, so I still say the bug isn't targeted properly :) 13:28 -!- jMyles [~justin@rrcs-24-39-111-40.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:28 < asac> plars: the "wait a bit after resume so the CPU settled" fix? 13:29 < plars> asac: yes, exactly 13:29 < plars> really just needed in that one case 13:29 < plars> because of timing 13:29 < asac> persia: well. pulseaudio folks are best to analyze that imo as they are the ones that know what the driver needs to support ... 13:29 < asac> persia: but yeah we can move it to alsa 13:29 < asac> the alsa folks should be aware now ;) 13:29 < asac> ok lets move on 13:29 < persia> Is it ALSA or ASoC for that board? 13:30 < asac> cooloney: ? 13:30 -!- njpatel_ [~njpatel@91.189.88.12] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:30 < cooloney> persia: is ASoC 13:30 < cooloney> actually ASoC is a sub system of ALSA in kernel 13:30 < asac> what does it stand for? 13:30 < persia> Right, so let's retarget it to "linux-mvl-..." 13:30 < cooloney> it's good for SoC's 13:31 < persia> ALSA System On a Chip 13:31 < cooloney> ALSA SoC = ASoC 13:31 < cooloney> yeah 13:31 < cooloney> System on Chip 13:31 < asac> if we target it aganist linux-mvl- ... this has to be fixed by mvl 13:31 < asac> if we use alsa, some random guy might have some ideas - guess the code is public 13:32 < ogra> linux-mvl- is too 13:32 < asac> ogra: yes, but noone knowing anything about sound is subscribed to that package 13:32 < persia> And it's 90% likely to be an issue with quirking in the ASoC stuff. 13:32 * GrueMaster is going to regret this but... 13:32 < persia> asac: If you want crimsun to look at the bug, that's just a matter of asking :) 13:33 < GrueMaster> How about if I check the latest alsa? 13:33 < persia> GrueMaster: That's another good idea. 13:33 < asac> GrueMaster: how much time would that take? 13:33 * asac doorbell 13:33 < ogra> ALSA or ASoC dorbell ? 13:34 < GrueMaster> asac: I don't know off hand. Need to download the code and build against current kernel. Also will need the existing audio disabled in the kernel. two days for build time? 13:34 < asac> lets first get crimsun etc. comment on the bug 13:34 < persia> GrueMaster: Take care: if it's ASoC, ALSA trunk won't help much. 13:34 < asac> and then decide what to do 13:34 < plars> asac: he has been looking at it 13:34 < GrueMaster> persia: why do you say that? 13:35 < asac> plars: what did he say? 13:35 < plars> asac: next thing he asked for was a stack trace 13:35 < plars> that was last night, and I haven't had a chance yet 13:35 < asac> ok cool. do what he says for now 13:35 < persia> GrueMaster: Last I heard, ASoC included a number of patches to some ALSA stuff that meant it was better to pull ASoC trunk than ALSA trunk to play. I may not be current, or I may even be wrong. 13:35 < plars> asac: I will do it this morning 13:36 < asac> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < asac> NCommander: ^^ 13:36 < asac> thanks 13:36 < asac> lets move on ;) 13:36 < GrueMaster> I've seen a bunch of ASOC patches fly through the alsa mailing list recently. 13:36 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet) 13:36 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Application status (JamieBennett, dyfet) 13:36 -!- ubuntujenkins [~Luke@rutherford-221-4.halls.student.lut.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Off to do more work] 13:36 < NCommander> [ACTION] plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < MootBot> ACTION received: plars to follow up with crimsun on the sound bug and report back 13:36 < cooloney> yeah, ASoC is in the heavy development 13:36 < cooloney> since it supports hundreds of SOC and hundreds of CODEC 13:37 < persia> Yeah. 13:37 < JamieBennett> Not much to report, webservice-office-zoho needs seeding and this branch needs sponsoring: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jamiebennett/+junk/webservice-office-zoho.auto.distutils 13:37 < persia> Moving on ... 13:37 < cooloney> but for userspace, it is supposed to be the same as alsa 13:37 < cooloney> ok 13:37 < asac> JamieBennett: can you produce the packaging? 13:38 < asac> e.g. the three pieces? 13:38 < JamieBennett> asac: OK 13:38 < asac> we have to redo the branches and kill the debian/ part of it so i can sponsor it ;) 13:39 < JamieBennett> asac: OK I'll chat after the meeting about it 13:39 < JamieBennett> move on? 13:39 < asac> yes 13:39 -!- tremolux [~glasker@pool-71-174-55-121.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:40 < JamieBennett> NCommander: ^ 13:40 < JamieBennett> heh 13:41 < ogra> can someone call his mobile ? :P 13:41 < JamieBennett> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:41 < plars> yeah, sec 13:41 < ogra> we need a remote controlled ship-horn near his laptop :) 13:41 < dyfet> I did a number of ftbfs/missing deps last week. I will list them on the status page 13:42 < asac> dyfet: did those get uploaded? 13:42 < StevenK> ogra: "foghorn" 13:42 < NCommander> sorry 13:42 < ogra> StevenK, ah, that was the word, yeah 13:42 < dyfet> I know NCommander offered to sponsor a few 13:42 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:42 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) 13:42 < asac> dyfet: please more aggressively request sponsorship from me too 13:42 < dyfet> okay :) 13:42 < ogra> StevenK, publically accessible via a webpage (and i'll blog about it :) ) 13:43 < asac> things shouldnt wait for an upload longer than half a day 13:43 * NCommander got distracted by his other half 13:43 < asac> dyfet: which packages are those you fixed? anything from main still? 13:43 < StevenK> Huh? ECONTEXT 13:43 -!- dmart [~chatzilla@fw-tnat.cambridge.arm.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43 < dyfet> A couple were from main, including a kde related package 13:43 < NCommander> OOo's fix uploaded, and the build broke. Seems to be buildd instability, but will have to watch closely 13:44 < ogra> did you see likewise FTBFS ? 13:44 -!- tremolux [~glasker@pool-71-174-55-121.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:44 * ogra gave it back, seemed to be a segfault 13:44 < ogra> please keep an eye on it though 13:44 < NCommander> ogra: do I hadn't 13:44 < NCommander> *no 13:45 -!- dmart [~chatzilla@fw-tnat.cambridge.arm.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:45 -!- robbiew [~RobbieWil@99-156-85-10.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:45 * dmart reconnects 13:45 < asac> so for libplist we ended up in a situation where builders fail 13:45 < NCommander> anything else? 13:45 < asac> because they dont have thumb support 13:45 < ogra> ugh 13:45 < asac> its testcases that get sigill 13:45 < asac> so its the first time we have that 13:45 < ogra> thats the first package we have failing like that 13:45 < dmart> Aren't the builders v7? 13:46 < ogra> snap 13:46 < asac> dmart: kernel isnt 13:46 < asac> dmart: i would think 13:46 < asac> its pegatron 13:46 < NCommander> ogra: can't we disable sigill? 13:46 < NCommander> er 13:46 < asac> so we can wait for the builder upgrade 13:46 < NCommander> *cough* 13:46 < NCommander> the test case 13:46 * asac pokes lamont again 13:46 < ogra> asac, can we ? 13:46 < asac> or use -marm to get that built 13:46 < dmart> Thumb-2 in userspace should still be supported. 13:46 < ogra> when is that due ? 13:46 < dmart> Localised -marm might be OK as a solution 13:46 < asac> dmart: it definitly isnt on those machines. it works well here on bbg/dove and in chroots on both 13:46 < dmart> Is libplist important? 13:46 < asac> when logging into the pegatrons i get SIGILL 13:46 < asac> dmart: its in main 13:47 < asac> dmart: i fixed endianess for floating point, so at least we should use -marm 13:47 < dmart> I mean, is it performance- or code-size- critical in any way? 13:47 < ogra> unlikely 13:47 < asac> dmart: i dont think so 13:47 < asac> its used by: 13:47 < asac> python-imobiledevice 13:47 < asac> libplist-utils 13:47 < asac> libimobiledevice-utils 13:47 < asac> python-gpod 13:47 < persia> It's really only important for dealing with client iPods. 13:47 < asac> libplist-dev 13:47 < asac> libplist-dbg 13:47 < asac> libplist++1 13:47 < dmart> -marm is probably OK then 13:47 < asac> libplist++-dev 13:48 < asac> libimobiledevice0 13:48 < asac> libgpod4-nogtk 13:48 < asac> libgpod4 13:48 < ogra> Description: Library for handling Apple binary and XML property lists 13:48 < asac> libgpod-common 13:48 < persia> !paste | asac 13:48 < ubottu> asac: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. 13:48 < asac> (sorry for the ast) 13:48 < asac> yeah pod 13:48 < asac> dmart: ok. lets do that and retry without when we have the bbg builders 13:48 < asac> persia: you just created additional noise 13:48 < dmart> OK 13:48 < asac> for no news ;) 13:48 * asac will upload with -marm 13:48 < asac> ok thats it from my side 13:48 < ogra> move on ? 13:48 < NCommander> [action] asac to upload libplist with -marm 13:48 < MootBot> ACTION received: asac to upload libplist with -marm 13:49 < NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business 13:49 < MootBot> New Topic: Any Other Business 13:49 * ogra kicks NCommander 13:49 -!- leoquant [~leor@ubuntu/member/leoquant] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:49 < ogra> move one back 13:49 < asac> what did he skip? 13:49 < ogra> image status 13:49 < NCommander> [topic] ARM Image Status 13:49 < MootBot> New Topic: ARM Image Status 13:49 < ogra> heh 13:49 * NCommander is not with it this morning 13:49 < ogra> imx51 and dove images build stable since several days and look good 13:50 < ogra> omap is in preparation 13:50 < ogra> x-loader and u-boot are in the archive, MIRs will be filed today 13:50 * dmart has an AOB (delayed by looking up the bug number) 13:50 < asac> when do we expect the first images to become available? 13:50 -!- Rafik [~29e58c82@ubuntu/member/rafik] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:50 < asac> dmart: thats next ;) 13:50 < ogra> i'll shove them on asac's desk then 13:50 < asac> thanks 13:50 < dmart> k 13:50 < ogra> the kernel isnt there yet 13:50 < ogra> so without kernel no images 13:51 < ogra> as soon as its there its a matter of 1-2 days 13:51 < asac> ogra: thought the kernel just didnt boot ;)= 13:51 < ogra> me working out the image concept and testing it, StevenK committing it to the builders 13:51 < asac> e.g. we could get images with a non-booting kernel 13:51 < ogra> asac, it has tons of bugs 13:51 < ogra> its not in the archive 13:51 < asac> right. just wonder why waiting for the kernel blocks finishing all the imaging stuff 13:51 < ogra> i wouldnt mind having buggy images 13:51 < asac> ah 13:51 < ogra> but it needs to be uploaded and go through NEW 13:51 -!- wet [~young98@112.201.195.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 < ogra> and we dont have a meta yet 13:52 < ogra> which d-i needs 13:52 < ogra> for our fallback images 13:52 < ogra> everything blocks on that atm 13:52 < StevenK> asac: Because I need to see where the kernels lands, main or universe for my livecd-rootfs changes 13:52 < StevenK> And a meta package for the kernel 13:52 < ogra> StevenK, will be main 13:52 < asac> main yeah 13:52 < ogra> but meta needs to be there and we need the debian-cd patches 13:53 < ogra> or cdimage ... fwiw 13:53 < StevenK> Both 13:53 < StevenK> I'll upload livecd-rootfs tomorrow 13:53 < StevenK> Er, today 13:53 < ogra> great 13:53 < StevenK> At some point in the next diurnal period 13:53 < ogra> so i can roll squashfs'es for testing 13:53 < ogra> as soon as we have a kernel 13:53 < StevenK> You can't, since it will want the kernel 13:53 < StevenK> Ah 13:53 < ogra> yeah 13:54 -!- tremolux [~glasker@pool-71-174-55-121.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:54 < ogra> for image building we should be able to abuse the code dove uses 13:54 < asac> ok so imx51/dove are good and we should have an omap image by end of week. sounds good ;) 13:54 < ogra> just adding two cp's to get MLO and u-boot in place 13:54 -!- ameetp [~ameetp@24.174.63.29] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:54 < ogra> right 13:54 < ogra> move on 13:54 < NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business 13:54 < MootBot> New Topic: Any Other Business 13:54 < asac> dmart: ^ 13:55 < dmart> Thanks ;) 13:55 < dmart> I just reconfirmed this one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/443147 13:55 < StevenK> ogra: I think about the only thing is how to make the image bootable 13:55 < ubottu> Ubuntu bug 443147 in firefox-3.5 "Firefox inappropriately adds scroll bars to many frames and images" [Medium,Triaged] 13:55 < dmart> It applies to 3.6 too 13:55 -!- worellana_ [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:55 -!- worellana [~worellana@unaffiliated/worellana] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56 -!- Claudinux [~claudio@unaffiliated/claudinux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:56 < asac> hmm 13:56 < dmart> I'm wondering whether the priority should be bumped 13:56 < asac> found issue? 13:56 < ogra> StevenK, right, the vfat might need to be special (active and marked bootable or some such) 13:56 -!- worellana_ is now known as worellana 13:56 < asac> let me try 13:56 < dmart> The pain really starts when Google maps starts drawing balloons 13:56 < StevenK> ogra: Anyway, you and I can sort that out once we have a kernel 13:56 < ogra> StevenK, beyond that we only need to copy the two binaries into the vfat in the right order (MLO needs to be in the first sectors of the image) 13:57 < ogra> right 13:57 < asac> dmart: i dont see it if i start it through ssh 13:57 < asac> dmart: thats bbg? 13:58 < dmart> Yes, hang on I'll see what happens with ssh for me... 13:58 < asac> the chromium dove issue definitly persists through ssh 13:58 -!- DavidLevin [~DavidLevi@67-210-33-186.ul.warwick.net] has quit [Quit: DavidLevin] 13:58 < asac> so if this doesnt it means its coming from X server somehow 13:58 -!- wet [~young98@112.201.195.215] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 13:58 < asac> try setting browser.zoom.full to false in about:config 13:58 < asac> and zoom out using ctrl-- 13:59 < asac> maybe it goes away with smaller fonts? 13:59 < asac> hmm i see it on google maps 13:59 * NCommander notes we're now over 13:59 < NCommander> asac: can you take this discussion offline? 13:59 < asac> yeah. that bug should get upstreamed 14:00 < asac> and so on 14:00 < asac> wilil follow up 14:00 < NCommander> anything else to be brought up quickly? 14:00 < asac> nope 14:00 < asac> go ahead and close the meeting ;) 14:00 < NCommander> [action] asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug 14:00 < MootBot> ACTION received: asac and dmart to follow up on firefox bug 14:00 < NCommander> #endmeeting 14:00 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:02. 14:00 < dmart> asac, I'll follow up with you on this in a moment 14:00 < asac> yeah 14:00 < GrueMaster> Also, I will hopefully have the equipment to reproduce/debug Bug #519905 this week. 14:00 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 519905 in linux-fsl-imx51 "Slow Ethernet throughput and framing errors when connected via a hub" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519905
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