Sunday 19 July 2020
There was no real agenda for this meeting besides getting to know each other.
[18:00] Polygon89: :D [18:00] SlickMcRunfast: so the beta isnt stable at all? [18:02] Polygon89: feisty beta? [18:03] *** br24 has joined #ubuntu-arizona. [18:03] rsthree: i'm running feisty beta on two systems [18:03] br24: sorry, had to switch to the lappy [18:03] SlickMcRunfast: ya [18:03] rsthree: looks like most of the issues have been worked over, but i don't know that it's 100% stable. [18:03] rsthree: or, at least, as stable as it will be at release-time [18:03] Polygon89: well i hope its pretty stable... its like being releaesd in 4 days [18:04] johnc: other than the kernel problems i had it was pretty stable [18:04] Polygon89: i ran it on my comp, but they still havent fixed the "keyboard volume button doesnt work" [18:04] rsthree: i ran into some horrible kernel issues a few days ago, but all is well again [18:04] Polygon89: and also, i cant use hibernate or suspend cause it takes out alsa when it awakens [18:05] SlickMcRunfast: rs3 how was Crossover [18:05] Polygon89: other then that it runs fine [18:05] rsthree: SlickMcRunfast, i never got 'round to it [18:05] rsthree: just sticking with wine at the moment. i'm quite a bit shorter on funds this month than i had anticipated, but i didn't bother with a trial either [18:05] Polygon89: wine is getting better [18:06] rsthree: indeed it is [18:06] SlickMcRunfast: . [18:06] Polygon89: i just tried steam recently and was suprised that they actually intregraded the wine tray icons into the traybar [18:06] Polygon89: so instead of an annoying box, they show up next to native linux tray icons, i like that [18:07] rsthree: excellent [18:09] rsthree: so, i guess this is the lot of us? [18:09] br24: it kinda seems like it [18:09] johnc: seems to be [18:09] Polygon89: did you guys pm everyone that had replied in that one big topic in the forum? [18:10] br24: Im sorry, I failed that task [18:10] johnc: yea i think we got everyone [18:10] Polygon89: whatever [18:10] Polygon89: its all good br24 [18:10] br24: thanks [18:10] johnc: our lead time was pretty short though [18:11] johnc: it was no prob br [18:11] br24: I think most people really dont care whether there is a group here or not [18:12] Polygon89: or maybe they dont check the forums daily like we do =) [18:12] SlickMcRunfast: they must be collecting posts [18:12] br24: could be [18:12] SlickMcRunfast: got to get them beans [18:12] rsthree: haha [18:12] johnc: maybe we should post a sticky on the loco. [18:12] rsthree: my bean count is pitiful, like < 30 and i've had an account for over a year [18:12] * rsthree is a professional lurker [18:12] Polygon89: heh [18:12] br24: Im right there with ya [18:12] Polygon89: i have 700, been here a year [18:13] Polygon89: just posting random stuff [18:13] br24: oh, and one other thing [18:13] Polygon89: about 100 of that was trying to get wireless to work on breezy [18:13] johnc: took me 2 yrs for 700 [18:13] br24: I really havent used irc much either [18:13] johnc: me either [18:13] Polygon89: all you really need to know is what you have already done lol [18:13] Polygon89: joining a channel [18:13] rsthree: ah, now i've been doing irc for awhile, but not as often as once before [18:13] Polygon89: changing your nick [18:14] br24: oh Im catching on [18:14] Polygon89: and to send messages to people that are highlighted, so they can see them better in large channels like #ubuntu [18:14] br24: just need to learn the commands [18:14] Polygon89: put their name then a comma [18:14] Polygon89: all you really need to know :D [18:14] rsthree: (and use tab for nick completion in most clients) :D [18:14] br24: of course, Im in the process of learning multiple things at the same time [18:14] Polygon89: yep. [18:14] Polygon89: so like [18:14] Polygon89: br24, this is highlighted for you [18:15] br24: Polygon89, thank you [18:15] Polygon89: :) [18:15] br24: no worries, I learn fast [18:16] br24: so what is on the agenda tonight? [18:16] SlickMcRunfast: just to chat [18:16] rsthree: mix it up a little and all that [18:17] br24: giggity giggity [18:17] Polygon89: adium for mac os x honestly puts GAIM to shame. i wish this program was for linux. [18:17] rsthree: giggity goo [18:17] rsthree: stick around [18:17] Polygon89: err pidgin, whatver its called now [18:17] SlickMcRunfast: what does it have thats different? [18:17] Polygon89: well nothing really as it uses the gaim library [18:17] Polygon89: its just better implemented [18:17] SlickMcRunfast: I think gaim need a smaller interface [18:18] SlickMcRunfast: the text is always huge [18:18] johnc: anyone using exaile music player [18:18] Polygon89: away messages in pidgin are weird, soemtimes they dont mark you as away... [18:18] rsthree: i'm suffering through rhythmbox still :D [18:18] Polygon89: and i hate it how it resumes your status from when you exit [18:18] rsthree: what's exaile like [18:18] Polygon89: i use exaile, great program [18:18] johnc: i really like it [18:18] rsthree: in the repos? [18:18] Polygon89: basic but functional program [18:18] Polygon89: yeah [18:19] johnc: everything seems to work [18:19] Polygon89: album art, lyric, wikipedia, library, most file types, mini mode [18:19] SlickMcRunfast: exaile [18:19] Polygon89: playlists, last.fm supportr [18:19] SlickMcRunfast: what do it do [18:19] br24: what other complaints about gaim? [18:19] Polygon89: away messages are screwy, it resumes your status after you quit [18:19] Polygon89: looks really kinda bad, lol [18:19] br24: I dont think Ive been able to get invisible to work for me [18:19] Polygon89: i hate it how it has three seprate login windows for three different accounts [18:19] Polygon89: it should be one unified one [18:20] br24: that could be difficult to do [18:20] Polygon89: and, when you enter a wrong password, its a pain to enter the right one again, as you have to go to accounts -> modify, delete the password thats listed there, click enable account and then login again [18:20] br24: unless there is a single login that uses the different logins [18:20] Polygon89: that could work. [18:21] rsthree: like a keyring sorta deal, right? [18:21] Polygon89: yah [18:21] br24: but then you could go back to square one if one of the providers go down [18:21] Polygon89: providers? [18:21] br24: like aim, msn [18:21] br24: aim can give me problems at time [18:22] Polygon89: well what i think hes saying [18:22] Polygon89: is that you give one password [18:22] Polygon89: if that pass is corrent, then itlogs you in to all of your accounts [18:22] Polygon89: that way you only need to enter one login, and remember one pass [18:22] br24: but you would have to have that account verify the account(s) you use [18:23] br24: some may have different user names, pw's [18:23] Polygon89: well its just a password, that encrypts or whatever the pther passwords [18:23] Polygon89: as in you have a diaglog box that you put all of the account info [18:23] Polygon89: for all your different im protocols [18:23] br24: hey I agree, would make things a little easier [18:23] Polygon89: and then you enter a universal password for that [18:23] Polygon89: so, when you enter that one universal password, the program is like "ok" and logs you in to everything using the info that you provided earlier [18:23] rsthree: does kopete already do this? [18:23] SlickMcRunfast: nothing like this exists yet? [18:24] Polygon89: no idea [18:24] rsthree: i was thinking kopete had a feature like that [18:24] Polygon89: maybe gnome keyring [18:24] br24: I cant think of any [18:24] Polygon89: but they would half to add some plugin to pidgin to do it [18:24] Polygon89: and also, adium uses this wonderful thing called growl [18:24] Polygon89: its kinda like a more pretty version of libnotify [18:24] Polygon89: the thing that lets you know you have updates aviable and all that [18:25] br24: interesting [18:25] Polygon89: and other programs can use growl, so like xchat can use it and everything [18:25] rsthree: any of you guys doing amd64, out of curiosity? [18:26] Polygon89: nah. [18:26] br24: nope [18:26] johnc: nope [18:26] SlickMcRunfast: na [18:26] Polygon89: speaking of gnome-keyring, does anyone use network manager? anyone know how to get rid of the annoying "enter password for gnome keyring so network manager can access the wep key"? [18:26] rsthree: i can't make up my mind whether to stick with it or not. the benefits are insignificant from what i can perceive, though. [18:27] br24: I am [18:27] br24: although I havent worked on getting rid of the pw prompt [18:28] br24: mostly use this away from home [18:28] rsthree: i remember encountering that but i don't know how to get rid of it. [18:28] Polygon89: i just want gnome keyring to remember its password [18:28] rsthree: i just disabled network manager on both systems [18:28] Polygon89: well i use it cause i like having the little bars that show signal strength [18:28] rsthree: it'd be handy for a laptop with wifi, though [18:28] Polygon89: cause i use wifi on my tower [18:29] Polygon89: ill see if there is an option in feisty before i go submitting a bug report about it [18:29] rsthree: (nod) i use wifi on one of my systems--it performs NAT for the other system, which goes without a wireless adapter. [18:29] br24: well I have found something [18:29] br24: (Link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281 [18:30] br24: it is older though [18:30] rsthree: i'm surprised it'd be so roundabout [18:30] Polygon89: i think they should add the option in gnome keyring [18:31] rsthree: yeah [18:31] johnc: submit it for gutsy [18:31] rsthree: i just opened keyring-manager and...well, it does just what the title suggests and nothing more than it has to :D [18:31] br24: I also found something that says it should work with feisty [18:31] br24: (Link: http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/) http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/ [18:32] Polygon89: lol its in the repos [18:32] Polygon89: so no need to compile... yay [18:33] rsthree: keen [18:33] Polygon89: well i need to wait for feisty [18:33] Polygon89: oh well, i can survive 4 days [18:34] br24: shouldnt be too much a problem [18:34] Polygon89: yep. [18:34] Polygon89: also, i noticed yesterday [18:35] Polygon89: on a random note: windows is physically incabable of taking screenshots of dvds [18:35] rsthree: indeed [18:35] Polygon89: if you do, the screenshot is all weird and its like it has two layers [18:35] rsthree: i've never successfully screencapped video in windows [18:35] Polygon89: and one layer never moves so its all messed up. [18:35] SlickMcRunfast: vlc [18:35] SlickMcRunfast: it has a screenshot function [18:35] Polygon89: i tried playing a dvd with vlc [18:36] Polygon89: it worked... kinda but then it crashed [18:36] Polygon89: i dont think it liked my dvd codec or something [18:36] br24: amazing, winders having a problem... [18:36] rsthree: heh :D [18:36] Polygon89: so i had to reboot to ubuntu just to take a screenshot [18:36] Polygon89: was annoying [18:36] rsthree: which reminds me. for you guys, why ubuntu? [18:36] Polygon89: i tried suse [18:36] br24: you may need to pay for support on that issue [18:36] Polygon89: my wireless doenst work... *next!* [18:37] Polygon89: i tried dreamlinux, its ok but really it just had everything that was on ubuntu already [18:37] johnc: i tried a bunch of differnt ones, but ubuntu worked best and the forum support was the best [18:37] br24: tried gentoo, suse, dsl [18:37] br24: ubuntu was the second one for me after gentoo [18:37] Polygon89: i tried sabayon linux, my wireless again didnt work, and when i posted on their forums, a developer basically said 'yes we know its a f---- bug, stop posting about it" [18:37] br24: worked ever since [18:37] rsthree: (nod) i think the forums do it for me. but yeah, tried suse, gentoo, arch, fc5, slack10.2, a couple others [18:37] johnc: i'd like to try gentoo, but install is a b ch [18:37] SlickMcRunfast: i got pulled because of the free cd [18:38] SlickMcRunfast: aol got me with that one too [18:38] rsthree: Polygon89, HAHA [18:38] rsthree: that's helpful [18:38] br24: took me 2 days to finish a gentoo install [18:38] SlickMcRunfast: whaaa [18:38] SlickMcRunfast: how [18:38] Polygon89: yep. [18:38] rsthree: i spent a weekend on gentoo back in late 2004 and said "screw it" [18:38] br24: was fun at first, but got very old [18:38] br24: especially after it broke on me [18:39] rsthree: i'll absolutely sacrifice any interest i have in imperceptible performance gains to have precompiled packages made available to me [18:39] johnc: i like the idea of being with the most up to date apps all the time though [18:39] br24: indeed [18:39] Polygon89: the downside of course if compling everything [18:40] Polygon89: making sure you have all the dependencies [18:40] Polygon89: the worst is compiling something when the program has no documentation on how to compile it properly [18:40] rsthree: arch was a nice compromise in that regard, but i still found it a bit too involved for a desktop OS, at least given my present needs and level of interest [18:40] johnc: arch has great artwork from what i've seen [18:40] rsthree: (arch did a lot of compiling through installation/syncing with pacman) [18:40] rsthree: (nod) i find arch tasteful at least [18:41] johnc: i take it pacman is their package mgr [18:41] rsthree: but, all this said, are any of you dual-booting windows or keeping a windows system handy, any of that? :) [18:41] rsthree: yeah [18:41] rsthree: it works a lot like emerge [18:41] rsthree: er, portage [18:41] br24: I still have one [18:41] br24: only used for burning dvds [18:41] Polygon89: i am, i use it for games. [18:41] rsthree: (nod) [18:41] johnc: no widows here. 2 years now [18:41] rsthree: nice [18:42] br24: I havent logged into it for about 4-5 months now [18:42] rsthree: i still hijack my girlfriend's laptop occasionally when windows is called for, but it's too underpowered to run any recent games [18:43] johnc: I started with dual boot, after a month or so of not using it, i just made the swithc [18:43] br24: my gf wont let me get rid of winders on hers [18:43] rsthree: (nod) :D [18:43] br24: shes threatened me [18:43] SlickMcRunfast: do it at night when she sleeps [18:43] br24: um, she will know who did it [18:43] rsthree: i find vista concerning, if not altogether scary. we're hanging on to XP for as long as humanly possible on that laptop--it probably would not run vista well, if at all, anyway [18:43] br24: she will be assimilated though [18:44] br24: and theyre going to stop selling XP next Jan [18:44] rsthree: yeah [18:44] SlickMcRunfast: Dell still gives it out [18:44] SlickMcRunfast: you just have to call in and ask for it [18:44] br24: so other orgs are going to get their licenses from 3rd parties [18:44] johnc: I sure would stick to xp if i had it [18:44] SlickMcRunfast: I'm sure they will stock pile it [18:44] br24: Ive played with Vista on vm [18:44] johnc: have read terrible things about vista [18:45] br24: almost everything I have is incompatible [18:45] rsthree: johnc, you and me both [18:45] rsthree: i want to find the link to it, but i think it's the "longest suicide note in history" whitepapers that convinced me of just how scary vista is :D [18:45] rsthree: i forget what/where it is. probably linked to from badvista.org [18:46] johnc: i read an article today about dual booting vista and ubuntu. Lots of hoops to jump through [18:46] Polygon89: lol [18:46] Polygon89: yeah [18:46] Polygon89: vista is still really buggy just cause nothing supports it yet [18:46] rsthree: i heard it's a bit more involved than dualbooting xp and linux [18:47] johnc: vista's new mbr is touchy and unfriendly [18:47] Polygon89: its new, so i think its just because its new and not everything is documented yet [18:47] br24: check this out [18:47] br24: just found it, thought it was kinda funny [18:47] br24: (Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/microsoft_incompatibilities_then_and_now/) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/23/microsoft_incompatibilities_then_and_now/ [18:47] rsthree: Polygon89, vista's hardware requirements go beyond bigger numbers; because there is such a rabid push for content-protection and DRM, video cards and the like must be made to very exacting specifications to be vista-approved [18:48] Polygon89: yep. [18:48] johnc: another article i read showed vista idling ram at 50% on a 1 gig system [18:49] rsthree: hahahahah [18:49] br24: well I dont know about you all, but Im going to install Vista on everything [18:49] Polygon89: linux kinda does that too, just beause it uses all the ram it can before resorting to swap [18:49] rsthree: now, if i crack open "top" on this system, i have but 20mb of memory free roughly [18:49] br24: all my machines, my coffee pot, old vcr in the closet [18:49] rsthree: out of 1gb. but i gather it's all about caching, prefetching, whatever else because i never seem to touch the swap [18:50] Polygon89: yeah, swap is just virtural memory (and if you have like 1 gig it really doesnt need it) and it is also used for hibernate [18:50] rsthree: (nod) [18:50] johnc: i only have 512 and i hardly ever need it [18:51] br24: sorry, was trying to bring in some humor [18:51] Polygon89: hehe [18:51] johnc: br, i got it [18:51] Polygon89: i use 300 mb usually, and a lot of that is because i run BOINC which uses a lot or ram [18:51] johnc: sound converter uses into swap when i run it, but that's about all [18:52] johnc: bathroom break brb [18:53] rsthree: i don't think i needed to acquire 1gb but when i built this computer, i went nuts ;D now it's just excessive, even a year or two later [18:53] rsthree: i have 512 on the other system and it's fine. [18:54] SlickMcRunfast: how many apps do you run at once? [18:55] johnc: i'm back, and another long neck down the drain [18:55] rsthree: right now, i have only some basic stuff. evolution, gaim, xchat, rhythmbox, beagle sitting in the notification area [18:55] rsthree: light duty [18:55] br24: that doesnt sound promising [18:55] Polygon89: beagle has a notification icon? [18:55] rsthree: what's a good local brew, anyway? [18:56] br24: where at? [18:56] rsthree: Polygon89, i assume so. [18:56] Polygon89: i installed beagle and it doesnt have an icon... [18:56] rsthree: after installing beagle, i ended up with a magnifying glass in my notification area [18:56] br24: never seen an icon for beagle [18:56] rsthree: i think it's a feisty thing. [18:56] rsthree: i mean, it's the generic search icon [18:56] Polygon89: new version most likely [18:56] Polygon89: oh... [18:56] Polygon89: ok [18:56] br24: rsthree, where are you at? [18:56] rsthree: but it uses beagle when i invoke it [18:56] Polygon89: thats an applet isnt it? [18:56] rsthree: br24, yuma [18:56] br24: ouch [18:57] rsthree: br24, yeah, tell me 'bout it :D [18:57] johnc: rs, I use to like one of the dark brews at PJ's brewer, but have killed too many brain cells to remember the name [18:57] rsthree: Polygon89, yeah. also opens if i tap F12 [18:57] br24: rsthree, yeah I remember now [18:57] Polygon89: for some reason keyboard shortcuts dont work for me [18:57] Polygon89: they dont work for beagle or tomboy... its weird [18:57] br24: now that is one thing that bothered me with edgy [18:58] Polygon89: that and i have to install an unoffical build of tomboy because the one in the repos is broken [18:58] br24: I got all kb shortcuts working except for the log out [18:58] rsthree: doh [18:59] johnc: anybody know what file holds the preferred apps config. I'd like to change the music player from rhythm box to exaile [18:59] Polygon89: no idea [18:59] Polygon89: wait [18:59] Polygon89: right click [18:59] Polygon89: on the file that you want to open with exaile [19:00] rsthree: hm. good question. i opened preferred applications and found it was stripped down quite a bit [19:00] Polygon89: click "open with" [19:00] br24: for file type, right click then go to open with [19:00] Polygon89: and select exaile [19:00] johnc: I meant for the player itself [19:00] br24: should do the same thing [19:01] rsthree: trying out exaile now [19:01] johnc: My muti-media keys will only launch rhythm box [19:01] rsthree: ooh [19:01] rsthree: thanks for suggesting it :D [19:02] johnc: rs, i really like exaile in gnome. intigrates nicely [19:02] rsthree: it's like amarok without the crap [19:02] Polygon89: lol [19:02] br24: I may have to check it out [19:02] rsthree: and kde-dependent stuff [19:02] br24: if its that good [19:02] rsthree: it does indeed integrate well with gnome [19:02] johnc: Polygon, righrt [19:03] johnc: the only problem i have had is that when it is set to display album art on the desktop, it only shows on 1 desktop [19:03] Polygon89: did you see if thats a reported bug? [19:04] johnc: not yet, but i will. Just started using it a week or so ago [19:04] rsthree: i do have to admit that rhythmbox in feisty is quite a bit better [19:04] rsthree: but exaile wins [19:04] Polygon89: i used to use listen [19:04] Polygon89: but for some reason i like exaile better [19:04] johnc: to me it's kind of like ubuntu, it just works [19:05] rsthree: true :D [19:05] Polygon89: unlike itunes in windows [19:05] rsthree: heh [19:05] rsthree: horrible horrible horrible [19:05] rsthree: :D [19:05] Polygon89: once again, apple is incabable of creating an installer [19:05] Polygon89: i try to install it [19:05] rsthree: brb [19:05] Polygon89: "error 5! registry is used by another process" [19:06] Polygon89: or something like that [19:06] Polygon89: this happened to me before for like 3 versions [19:06] Polygon89: they fixed it, now it doesnt work again [19:06] johnc: i considered apple before i found linux. [19:07] Polygon89: its pretty nice (on a ibook right now) [19:07] Polygon89: but linux wins overall :D [19:07] rsthree: back [19:07] johnc: expensive though [19:07] rsthree: i have a soft spot for apple, but it' [19:07] Polygon89: apple is a hardware company, microsoft / linux focus on software [19:07] rsthree: s due in part to the fact i was raised on the apple ][+ [19:07] rsthree: and, later, the IIgs [19:08] rsthree: i might get a mac eventually, if i decide i need to get serious about music again [19:08] rsthree: because uh i sure as hell will not run a DAW on windows [19:08] Polygon89: lol [19:08] johnc: lol [19:08] Polygon89: mac and linux are similiar enough, someone should create like macosxwine [19:09] rsthree: haha [19:09] johnc: that's a good one [19:09] rsthree: i have to leave unfortunately [19:09] Polygon89: ahh, later [19:09] johnc: later [19:09] br24: later [19:09] rsthree: only one car between my girlfriend and i, and it's time to pick her up from work [19:09] SlickMcRunfast: bye [19:09] rsthree: later :D [19:09] Polygon89: latas [19:10] johnc: seems like we have a pretty good core group, if we can just expand it a little [19:10] Polygon89: yep. [19:10] br24: Im sure in time it will [19:10] rsthree: oh yeah, before i jump out the door, i wanted to ask about that--if anyone has local ideas or plans or thoughts [19:10] SlickMcRunfast: that is the plan [19:10] rsthree: seeing as how we're all in the same state at least [19:10] Polygon89: yeah [19:11] br24: whatcha got on mind? [19:11] Polygon89: im in tucson, there is phoenix, yuma.. [19:11] Polygon89: what kind of local thing? [19:11] br24: what do you mean? [19:11] rsthree: i wasn't sure. i've never been involved in anything like a LoCo [19:11] rsthree: i suppose none of us have? ;D [19:11] br24: neither have I [19:11] Polygon89: nope ;) [19:11] johnc: not me [19:11] johnc: we are pretty spread out for a local project [19:12] rsthree: true [19:12] Polygon89: well im sure there are more ppl [19:12] Polygon89: i just noticed the az loco forum one day [19:12] rsthree: well, we'll at least keep in touch enough and grow to perhaps incorporate some ideas later [19:12] johnc: maybe a computer thing of some kind [19:12] rsthree: not building rome in a day here [19:12] br24: no worries [19:12] Polygon89: yep [19:12] rsthree: but yeah, i'm down to drive out of yuma at some point and hang out if nothing else [19:12] br24: so lets start out with the basics [19:13] johnc: right rs, maybe just agree for now to meet here same time and place for a while and try to build interest [19:13] SlickMcRunfast: this meeting was kindof last second so i'm sure more people will come next week [19:13] Polygon89: yeah [19:13] Polygon89: post a sticky about it [19:13] br24: if you post it, they will come... [19:13] rsthree: sounds good to me. my sundays are almost universally open, but i can work in other dates/times now and again too [19:13] Polygon89: does anyone hav eadmin powers for the local forum? [19:13] Polygon89: err loco [19:13] johnc: not me [19:13] br24: nope [19:14] rsthree: okay, now i'm actually gone. see yas :D [19:14] Polygon89: hmm, i guess a post should just suffice [19:14] Polygon89: lol later [19:14] br24: later [19:14] johnc: but i think anyone can post a stick with permission from an adm [19:14] SlickMcRunfast: banditti is the "leader" [19:14] br24: but where is this leader? [19:14] Polygon89: never seen him lol [19:14] SlickMcRunfast: same [19:15] SlickMcRunfast: I sent him a email [19:15] br24: so much for that [19:15] johnc: if you want i will see about the sticky [19:15] Polygon89: that moderator guy is from az [19:15] SlickMcRunfast: I guess if we hear nothing in a week we can ask an admin to give us the power [19:15] Polygon89: wait i dont think hes the leader [19:15] Polygon89: wait nvm [19:15] Polygon89: i was thinking about brunellus [19:15] johnc: i'm not sure we have a leader [19:16] SlickMcRunfast: whos brunellus [19:16] br24: so maybe some POC should be established [19:16] Polygon89: Last Activity: 3 Hours Ago 04:12 PM [19:16] Polygon89: brunellus is a forum moderator who is from az [19:16] Polygon89: he posted a topic or something [19:17] Polygon89: and banditti is the leader, at least his username is green and hes the author of the sticky... did anyone pm him? [19:17] SlickMcRunfast: I sent an email [19:17] johnc: not i [19:17] Polygon89: try pming him, he was on 3 hrs ago [19:17] johnc: good job slick [19:17] Polygon89: hes part of the unanswered post team so he has to check the forums [19:18] johnc: well, maybe just pm him again and see if he shows up next week [19:19] Polygon89: ya [19:19] SlickMcRunfast: I sent a PM just now [19:19] johnc: good [19:19] SlickMcRunfast: asking of he was still active in the AZLOCO [19:20] johnc: if slick is agreeable he and i can pm our list again for next week [19:20] SlickMcRunfast: no problem [19:20] SlickMcRunfast: It would be nice if we could do more than 5 at once [19:20] br24: thank you both for doing that [19:21] Polygon89: lol [19:21] johnc: how about everyone sending me their email address so we can keep up [19:21] Polygon89: email@example.com [19:21] johnc: firstname.lastname@example.org [19:21] SlickMcRunfast: email@example.com [19:21] br24: firstname.lastname@example.org [19:21] johnc: anyone know rs [19:21] SlickMcRunfast: nope [19:22] Polygon89: i would just pm him about it [19:22] Polygon89: are we setting up a mailing list? [19:22] johnc: looks like me i guess [19:22] Polygon89: cool thanks [19:23] SlickMcRunfast: I could check his domain name for an email [19:23] johnc: I can do that [19:24] SlickMcRunfast: protected [19:25] SlickMcRunfast: so why does Rythembox save playlists in the use/share folder and not in my home folder [19:25] Polygon89: dunno [19:26] SlickMcRunfast: firefox saves bookmarks in home [19:26] SlickMcRunfast: same with exaile [19:26] br24: but opera does not [19:28] Polygon89: opera doesnt save your stuff in home? [19:28] johnc: got dog duty to do. enjoyed it guys. See ya next week if not before [19:28] SlickMcRunfast: cya [19:28] br24: laters [19:28] *** johnc has signed off IRC ("Leaving"). [19:29] br24: normally opera saves everything under its folder [19:30] Polygon89: know which folder that is? [19:32] br24: .opera [19:32] Polygon89: oh, so it does save it under home [19:32] Polygon89: /home/.opera [19:33] br24: yeah that is true [19:33] br24: but thats typically a hidden folder [19:33] Polygon89: yeah, like all other config folders [19:33] br24: indeed [19:34] br24: and I dont like having hidden folders showing [19:34] Polygon89: yeah [19:34] Polygon89: i was just worried cause i just backup my home folder, wipe my root drive and reinstall everything [19:35] Polygon89: and was afraid all my opera stuff wouldent be saved cause i thought it wasnt saved in home [19:35] br24: my apologies [19:35] Polygon89: its all good [19:35] Polygon89: and alas, i must be going as well. i have a smidge of homework left to do tonight [19:35] br24: sometimes I miss those days [19:35] Polygon89: its been nice talking to you all, until next time [19:36] Polygon89: lol homework isnt the best thing in the wrold [19:36] br24: have a jolly good time [19:36] Polygon89: oh i will =P [19:36] Polygon89: laters [19:36] br24: laters [19:36] SlickMcRunfast: later [19:36] *** Polygon89 has signed off IRC ("Leaving - X-Chat Aqua"). [19:36] br24: well its just you and I [19:36] SlickMcRunfast: and our old pal Slogger [19:37] br24: probably having a ham sandwich with raspberry jelly [19:37] SlickMcRunfast: lol [19:37] SlickMcRunfast: I think he got mad at us alittle last time [19:38] br24: sorry Slogger [19:38] SlickMcRunfast: so i'm going for the beta [19:38] SlickMcRunfast: burning the iso right now [19:39] br24: do it man [19:39] br24: me, Im just going to wait for the release [19:39] br24: continue working on my site [19:40] SlickMcRunfast: so are you a Gimp masater? [19:40] br24: I wouldnt go that far [19:40] br24: but I am teaching myself [19:40] br24: among other things [19:45] br24: well Im going to get going myself [19:45] SlickMcRunfast: ok [19:45] br24: will idle until next time [19:45] br24: laters