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[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:02:28] <johnc4510-laptop> Meeting called to order
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:02:33] <johnc4510-laptop> first off
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:02:47] <eddieftw> meeting?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:02:54] <Spreadsheet>      yes eddieftw
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:02:56] <johnc4510-laptop> First off, I have been working on the Installfest and the Open Source Conference pages, and when I went to add them to the team header that shows on all of our wiki pages, i screwed something up in the format
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:06] <johnc4510-laptop> ian is working on it now
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:22] <johnc4510-laptop> it may take a while to fix after i screwed it up   lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:35] Join       enigmastrat has joined this channel (n=robbie@ip68-106-229-90.ph.ph.cox.net).
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:41] <tyche>    johnc4510-laptop: How could you?  It's the simplist thing in the world to edit.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:50] <ianmcorvidae>     hehe, I also haven't done anything with wiki in a while XD
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:52] <johnc4510-laptop> not the header
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:54] <tyche>    Come to think of it.  Nevermind.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:03:58]     * br24 agrees with tyche
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:09] <johnc4510-laptop> header is different
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:11] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:15] <johnc4510-laptop> anyway
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:21] <tyche>    After the meeting, tell me what you broke, and I'll fix it.  Hee hee
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:23] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: hey
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:28] <enigmastrat>      hello everyone
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:42] <johnc4510-laptop> I started a thread for the Installfest. You can see and make comments here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Installfest
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:04:47] <Spreadsheet>      hey
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:05:00] <johnc4510-laptop> please use the thread for ideas and comments
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:05:26] <johnc4510-laptop> .
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:05:26] <Spreadsheet>      what's an installfest?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:05:50] <Spreadsheet>      is it a event when people install like crazy?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:05:56] <johnc4510-laptop> that's where we meet to help people install ubuntu on their boxes
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:06:02] <Spreadsheet>      oh! ok
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:06:07] <johnc4510-laptop> I started a thread for the Open Source conference we discussed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4352335#post4352335 and the initial wiki page for planning is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/OpenSourceConference
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:06:21] <Spreadsheet>      they should have freedom toasters in the US
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:06:33] <johnc4510-laptop> now, the wiki page for the open source conference is new
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:06:44] <johnc4510-laptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/OpenSourceConference
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:07:00] <johnc4510-laptop> it is the basic idea and initial planning
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:07:17] <kennymc0> cool
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:07:24] <johnc4510-laptop> look it over and make comments and give ideas on the thread
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:07:58] <ianmcorvidae>     subpageheader fixed :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:08:19] <johnc4510-laptop> once ian gets the sub header fixed the links to the wiki pages for the installfest and the open source conf. will be on every wiki page in the header
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:08:20] <tyche>    Nice job, ianmcorvidae
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:08:24] <johnc4510-laptop> ianmcorvidae: ty
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:08:26] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:08:32] <kennymc0> pretty
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:09:02] <kennymc0> :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:09:27] <johnc4510-laptop> so, let's talk about the open source conference wiki page a  little
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:09:34] <Spreadsheet>      sounds fun
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:09:50] <Spreadsheet>      too bad i cant go ;(
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:10:06] <johnc4510-laptop> I tried to include the things we talked about in the earlier meetings
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:10:24] <johnc4510-laptop> does anyone see something i missed??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:10:32] <johnc4510-laptop> or have other ideas??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:10:42] <Spreadsheet>      did, not does
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:10:49] <Spreadsheet>      grammer is important
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:25] <ianmcorvidae>     as is spelling, grammAr boy ;)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:35] <br24>     thx ianmcorvidae
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:36]     * ianmcorvidae is just joking around :P
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:41] <Spreadsheet>      grammar>spelling
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:48]     * tyche doesn't have a grammer
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:56] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, so, any thoughts
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:11:57] <enigmastrat>      mine got removed when I was 12
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:06] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:16] <enigmastrat>      sorry... I think the info looks good
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:27] <johnc4510-laptop> any additions or ideas
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:28] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:33] <tyche>    Looks like a start, but I'd want to go over it carefully before I made any comments.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:33] <kennymc0> looks good to me
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:41] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:12:45] <johnc4510-laptop> good idea
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:13:07] <johnc4510-laptop> everyone should look it over this wk, and make comments on the thread
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:13] <enigmastrat>      I noticed this event was held previously at UAT
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:27] <enigmastrat>      what was the original name again?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:33] <enigmastrat>      barcamp?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:36] <johnc4510-laptop> even more so than the installfest, this event will need manpower
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:46] <johnc4510-laptop> barcamp   yes
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:14:55] Quit       Spreadsheet has left this server ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]").
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:15:19] <johnc4510-laptop> i thought maybe instead of barcamp we would use open source conference
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:15:34] <enigmastrat>      ok... just for reference: http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampPhoenix
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:15:40] <johnc4510-laptop> i thought maybe that would look a little more upscale or professional
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:15:52] <kennymc0> probably
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:15:54] <enigmastrat>      I agree
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:17:37] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: i had not seen that
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:17:45] <johnc4510-laptop> i wonder who did those
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:17:53] <johnc4510-laptop> i didn't see that it said
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:17:57] <enigmastrat>      I believe it was students from UAT
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:17:58] <johnc4510-laptop> quick scan
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:00] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:09] <enigmastrat>      anyone go there in here?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:12] <johnc4510-laptop> i saw an email addy
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:25] <johnc4510-laptop> might be a good idea to contact him
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:28] <kennymc0> i didnt know about it
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:37] <johnc4510-laptop> see if he is interested
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:38] <kennymc0> that would have been fun to go to though
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:50] <johnc4510-laptop> ours should be similar
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:18:52] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:05] <johnc4510-laptop> looks like a good resource
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:13] <enigmastrat>      I went to UAT for a LAN once.  The facility is very well equipped
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:25] <johnc4510-laptop> and it was held in 06 and 07
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:31] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:39] <enigmastrat>      so maybe join forces and bring more people to the event
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:44] <tyche>    I wonder if we could get the use of the facilities
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:19:45] <johnc4510-laptop> agreed
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:20:16] <kennymc0> yeah it looks like i wont be able to get room at devry with how much they are tearing up with the construction
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:20:37] <johnc4510-laptop> google phoenix was a food sponsor for that
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:20:48] <johnc4510-laptop> kennymc0: kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:21:15] <tyche>    I think that we definitely don't want to take the name barcamp away from them.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:21:30] <johnc4510-laptop> no
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:21:30] <johnc4510-laptop> but
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:21:45] <johnc4510-laptop> we either want to include them in ours, or
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:21:52] <johnc4510-laptop> include us in theirs
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:04] <tyche>    Yep.  One way or the other.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:06] <johnc4510-laptop> if they have one going for 08
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:13] <tyche>    Yep
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:40] <johnc4510-laptop> they had it in dec
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:50] <johnc4510-laptop> seems an odd time of yr to have it
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:22:51] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:06] <tyche>    We'll just have to talk to them and see what they say.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:16] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:21] <tyche>    it may have been to avoid various school problems.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:39] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll look over that info and email them, i think i saw an addy on one of the pages
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:47] <johnc4510-laptop> maybe
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:23:51] <tyche>    Sounds good.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:08] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, so
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:14] <johnc4510-laptop> it's a start
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:19] <kennymc0> yep
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:24] <johnc4510-laptop> everyone look over the wiki page
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:32] <johnc4510-laptop> and leave comments on the thread
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:36] <johnc4510-laptop> ideas too
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:49] <kennymc0> ok
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:49] <johnc4510-laptop> ok next
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:24:54] <johnc4510-laptop> the installfest
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:25:04] <johnc4510-laptop> i was hoping soldats would be around
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:25:18] <johnc4510-laptop> he offered to work on the flier
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:25:33] <johnc4510-laptop> so
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:26:01] <johnc4510-laptop> oh, he was also going to see about space at the u of a for tucson install
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:26:03] <johnc4510-laptop> :(
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:26:30] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, so you phoenix folks, did you think about this during the wk??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:26:31] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:00] <johnc4510-laptop> ok,
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:00] <tyche>    Thought about it is about all I could do.
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:09] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:18] <enigmastrat>      anytime after 5
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:22] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:25] <kennymc0> had a lot of homework so i couldnt really thing about it
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:30] <johnc4510-laptop> np
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:34] <johnc4510-laptop> ok so
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:27:56] <johnc4510-laptop> enigmastrat: didn't you say _maybe_ on the hosting
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:02] <enigmastrat>      I did say maybe
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:06] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:17] <enigmastrat>      and I didn't talk to my LAN partners in crime
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:25] <enigmastrat>      because I'm a bum
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:27] <johnc4510-laptop> that means we should really try to figure something else out maybe
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:31] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:28:34] <johnc4510-laptop> nah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:01] <johnc4510-laptop> btw, enigmastrat, we need to include them in the conference too
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:10] <enigmastrat>      absolutely
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:15] <johnc4510-laptop> if they are interested
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:26] <enigmastrat>      they are Linux geeks as well
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:30] <johnc4510-laptop> nice
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:29:59] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, i think what we need to do is contact all the lug's in the state on both projects
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:30:16] <johnc4510-laptop> start drumming up some enthusiasm and help
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:30:18] <johnc4510-laptop> :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:30:34] <kennymc0> sounds like a plan
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:30:38] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:30:55] <johnc4510-laptop> anyone know of a listing of the state lug's??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:07] <johnc4510-laptop> i know the ones here in tucson
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:16] <tyche>    I think johnc4510-laptop has a listing.  Hee hee
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:26] <johnc4510-laptop> i do
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:27] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:31] <johnc4510-laptop> hmmm
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:48]     * johnc4510-laptop picks his brain, not his nose
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:31:49] <johnc4510-laptop> lol
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:23] <johnc4510-laptop> what are some of the ones in Phoenix   anyone??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:32] <ianmcorvidae>     PLUG, DeLUG
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:35] <ianmcorvidae>     ASULUG
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:43] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:45] <ianmcorvidae>     Dunno if any of those but DeLUG are active
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:32:46] <ianmcorvidae>     but yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:01] <ianmcorvidae>     DeLUG, obviously, we interact with via server :)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:02] <johnc4510-laptop> asu probably is   not sure
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:05] <johnc4510-laptop> yep
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:08] <ianmcorvidae>     yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:23] <johnc4510-laptop> there's one in flagstaff
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:30] <johnc4510-laptop> slofgren ran it
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:36] <ianmcorvidae>     alternately called flaglug or LUNA
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:50] <ianmcorvidae>     (linux users of northern arizona)
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:54] <johnc4510-laptop> luna that's it
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:57] <ianmcorvidae>     flaglug.org was the site, as I recall
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:33:59] <ianmcorvidae>     yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:00] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:06] <ianmcorvidae>     and then TFUG of course
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:10] <ianmcorvidae>     dunno if there are any others in Tucson
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:25] <johnc4510-laptop> tfug is the one out of pima i think
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:36] <ianmcorvidae>     uh, tfug's just general tucson
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:49] <johnc4510-laptop> there is also a group out of the tucson computer society
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:52] <ianmcorvidae>     I know folks in there and I'm on the mailing list, although I haven't done much
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:53] <johnc4510-laptop> linux group
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:34:55] <ianmcorvidae>     oh yeah, there is that one
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:04] <ianmcorvidae>     never heard anything about them other than 'they exist' though
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:15] <johnc4510-laptop> those are the two here that i know about
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:19] <ianmcorvidae>     yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:45] <johnc4510-laptop> they meet once a month on west grant at the societies general officies
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:49] <ianmcorvidae>     ah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:51] <johnc4510-laptop> on a sunday
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:35:57] <johnc4510-laptop> 3rd or 4th
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:02] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll have to look it up
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:06] <ianmcorvidae>     tfug meets for coffee hours... sometime, I can never remember
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:07] <ianmcorvidae>     thursdays
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:13] <ianmcorvidae>     but most of their activity is on the list
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:17] <johnc4510-laptop> ah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:20] <ianmcorvidae>     they have an IRC channel too but it's very dead
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:30] <johnc4510-laptop> maybe the one at pima is a different group then
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:40] <johnc4510-laptop> because they meet at pima west
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:53] <johnc4510-laptop> is it a freenode channel
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:36:54] <johnc4510-laptop> ?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:09] <ianmcorvidae>     it is
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:10] <ianmcorvidae>     #tfug
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:10] <johnc4510-laptop> under #tfug
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:14] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:18] <ianmcorvidae>     there's nobody there pretty much ever, though
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:23] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:37:24] <ianmcorvidae>     well, a bunch of idlers including myself, but yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:25] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, well, i'll get some info on the state lug's, maybe via google for a listing of some kind
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:29] <johnc4510-laptop> and
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:34] <johnc4510-laptop> sent out some feelers
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:35] <ianmcorvidae>     maybe, yeah
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:53] <ianmcorvidae>     I should really be attending the TFUG stuff, I just haven't gotten around to it yet
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:38:59] <ianmcorvidae>     I know a guy in the group
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:39:16] <johnc4510-laptop> i'll do that this wk, and maybe i'll have some hits by next meeting
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:39:20] <johnc4510-laptop> ianmcorvidae: kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:39:29] <ianmcorvidae>     yeah, hopefully
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:39:32] <johnc4510-laptop> k
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:39:58] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, that's about it for me this wk, anyone have anything they want to discuss??
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:40:29] <enigmastrat>      real quick
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:40:33] <johnc4510-laptop> ok
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:40:36] <enigmastrat>      jamesbritt.com
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:40:44] <johnc4510-laptop> looking
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:40:45] <enigmastrat>      he ran the barcamp phoenix I think
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:41:08] <enigmastrat>      scroll down on the blog to december 16th, he has info on how it went
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:41:35] <enigmastrat>      he may be the guy to talk to
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:13] <johnc4510-laptop> k, he's a software developer  nice
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:14] <johnc4510-laptop> ty
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:17] <enigmastrat>      np
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:22] <enigmastrat>      that's all for me
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:36] <johnc4510-laptop> we want to include the commercial community in the conference
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:39] <johnc4510-laptop> kk
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:42:46] <johnc4510-laptop> nothing else?
[Sun Feb 17 2008] [21:43:12] <johnc4510-laptop> ok, meeting concluded   thx to all :)   remember to think about and comment on the threads

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