08May04

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[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, we about ready folks??
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:29] <tyche>     +1
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  +1 if you are
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:31] <ianmcorvidae>      +1
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:35] <Hipstor__> ok gang i need help. I installed hardy heron for amd64 from cd. then i tried to install mythbuntu from symantic package manager.
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:35] <soldats>   +1
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:38] <kennymc0_laptop>   +1
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:42] Join        enigmastrat has joined this channel (n=robbie@ip68-106-229-90.ph.ph.cox.net).
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:44] <DesertPenquin>     +1
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:49] <soldats>   hey enigmastrat
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:58:54] <enigmastrat>       hello
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk, looking good then, let's get started
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  meeting to order
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  first off
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  we have some new folks to introduce
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  if i call you nick please give us a brief intro
[Sun May 4 2008] [20:59:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  fde: you here?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:00:17] <soldats>   next
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:00:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:00:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: you here?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:00:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  a lug person i think
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:00:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  could you introduce yourself please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  hmmm    lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  not having much luck
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:16] <tyche>     Maybe they're shy
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: could you intro yourself?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:27] <soldats>   or not around :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:28] <Hipstor__> hello
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  just a line or two
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  hi
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:01:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: was at the phoenix release party
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:02] <Hipstor__> met you guys at peter piper pizza party
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:03] <tyche>     c'mon Hipstor__.  You weren't that shy at the party.  Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:24] <Hipstor__> let me type :P
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:41] <kennymc0_laptop>   ok i say we let him type so that he can introduce himself
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:02:42] <kennymc0_laptop>   lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:03:17] <Hipstor__> am having major trouble installing mythbuntu onto hearty heron.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:03:26] <tyche>     >PECK<>PECK<>PECK< oops <BACKSPACE> >PECK<
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:03:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:03:53] <Hipstor__> mysql wont talk to mythtv.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  i don't have much knowledge of mythtv
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:11] <enigmastrat>       I do
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  maybe we can find someone
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  after meeting Hipstor__ and enigmastrat should link up then
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:31] <enigmastrat>       yup
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok next
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:39] <DrPppr242> might run nmap to see if mysqld is running
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/HardyReleaseParties
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:04:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  pics of the parties
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  and other info if you haven't seen it before
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  thanks to all who helped make our release parties a success
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:34] <kennymc0_laptop>   np :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  and a special bit of thx to kennymc0_laptop and tyche for their work in phoenic
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  phoenix
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:05:57] <tyche>     Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:09] <Hipstor__> >PECK<>PECK<>PECK< oops <BACKSPACE> >PECK<
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  yep
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok next
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  installfests
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  coming up on May 17th
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:06:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  about 2 wks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  first off ianmcorvidae has an idea to combine a signing party with the installfests
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  so
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  ianmcorvidae: could you inform us please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  ?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:41] <soldats>   LETS GET THE FLYERS OUT THERE GUYS (PHOENIX)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:07:41] <ianmcorvidae>      sure.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:08:30] <ianmcorvidae>      I can only speak for Tucson, of course, but myself and some folks unaffiliated with this group would like to do a keysigning (PGP, Thawte Web of Trust, CACert), and thought that doing it paired with the installfest could raise awareness of both
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:09:05] <ianmcorvidae>      there aren't many people in this group who use PGP/GPG much less any of the S/MIME variants, but it seems like this could draw more people, which is always preferable
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:09:25] <Hipstor__> keysigning ?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:09:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm not familiar with thawte web, and cacert??
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:09:32] <ianmcorvidae>      I don't know if anyone in phoenix wants to run a similar event.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:09:50] <ianmcorvidae>      thawte and cacert are both certificate authorities that grant individual certificates for signing email with
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:05] <ianmcorvidae>      both have a system of trust 'points' assigned by a trusted person within the network
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:06] <tyche>     If I knew what you meant, it might help.  I've got a gpg key, but I'm not sure what you mean by a signing.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:12] <ianmcorvidae>      heh, okay
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: keysigning is an encrytion for peer to peer authentication
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:28] <ianmcorvidae>      the idea behind signing a key is that it backs up the authenticity of the owner
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:10:43] <ianmcorvidae>      because, obviously, anyone can create a key with whatever random data they want in it
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:11:04] <tyche>     How do they sign keys?  Especially if they don't have their computer there?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:11:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  and allows two or more people to share via authentication
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:11:24] <ianmcorvidae>      so, signing keys is typically done in person, and the idea is you make sure the person is who they (and their key) says they are and that they have control, and then you sign it at home (usually)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:11:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  and know that they are sharing with a trusted source
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:11:38] <ianmcorvidae>      exactly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: you have a key since you are an ubuntu member
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  but
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:07] <Hipstor__> drivers licence for the internet
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:07] <ianmcorvidae>      if you read the newsletters, you'll see tyche's signature every week, which ensures that it comes from him (given the signature validates); most email clients have a system for this
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:12] <ianmcorvidae>      in a sense, yes :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  until you share and authenticate it, it not good for much
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:35] <tyche>     OK, that doesn't sound hard.  But how do you knowwhat the person's key is?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:12:46] <ianmcorvidae>      they tell you, typically
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:14] <ianmcorvidae>      there's something called a key 'fingerprint' that you can get (using gpg) using gpg --fingerprint <key>
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  ian am i right in thinking you only give and sign the public portion of the key?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:21] <ianmcorvidae>      that's what's typically used
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:28] <ianmcorvidae>      yes, you only EVER give out the public part
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:34] <DrPppr242> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:42] <ianmcorvidae>      thanks, DrPppr
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:13:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  DrPppr242: ty
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:01] <DrPppr242> your welcome
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:03] <tyche>     OK, I've got a fingerprint of  EBE2 B7C9 7872 2F4B C542 D801 0CE5 AED3 C50A 6E95
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:08] <ianmcorvidae>      exactly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  yep
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:16] <tyche>     Is that what I give to people?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:29] <ianmcorvidae>      and, given your key is on a keyserver somewhere, they can get your full public key from that
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:46] <DesertPenquin>     perhaps after the signing there could be a page on the web of the public keys signed at the event and a link to the PGP HOWTO
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:55] <paul928>   I think that ianmcorvidae is discussing a emerging technology that will become very important in the near future.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:14:58] <ianmcorvidae>      by the way, if it isn't, you should issue gpg --keyserver pgp.ubuntu.com --send-keys <key> :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:04] <ianmcorvidae>      not even close to emerging, but heh
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, how about this
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:26] <ianmcorvidae>      it's been used to sign Debian/Ubuntu packages since those respective operating systems came out; it's not well-known, but it is in use
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  ianmcorvidae: could you put all the particulars in a email to the team list
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  ie  how to get a key
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:42] <paul928>   emerging in the sense of popular use
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:44] <ianmcorvidae>      I will attempt to, certainly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  what it is used for
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:15:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  etc?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:04] <ianmcorvidae>      sure
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:20] <ianmcorvidae>      I'll attempt to be concise, even, which clearly I haven't done well
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  then those that don't have keys can generate one and put it on their launchpad page
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:30] <ianmcorvidae>      yes, indeed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:32] <johnc4510-laptop>  that makes it a published key
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:16:41] <ianmcorvidae>      (pgp keys are how one signs the ubuntu code of conduct, by the way)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  and you should include how to generate a key and how to publish it on launchpad maybe
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:11] <kennymc0_laptop>   that would be cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:13] <ianmcorvidae>      yes, certainly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:23] <tyche>     And how to use a fingerprint to find the person's public key.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  and paul928 is correct, it is a secure way to do things and a coming thing
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  good
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:46] <ianmcorvidae>      although: do people need to know these exact specifics to agree/disagree on having a keysigning party along with the installfest?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, that sounds like a great idea
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  it's not hard to do
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:17:56] <ianmcorvidae>      because there are some preliminary things that should be done, of course :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  and we can do it right at the installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  that's why i wanted the email to instruct
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  we appreciate it ianmcorvidae
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  a great idea
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:38] <soldats>   ianmcorvidae: at least for tucson you can explain it to the eople who dont know as well as the others who arent apart of the group to explain as well so it should work
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:43] <ianmcorvidae>      okay :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:44] <tyche>     johnc4510-laptop: Would it be better on the Forum?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:56] <ianmcorvidae>      I'll get the preliminaries started and send out stuff to help people out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:18:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: either way
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:08] <ianmcorvidae>      I'd prefer the mailing list, so I'll at least start it there.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  ianmcorvidae: you can use the forum or the email list
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:22] <ianmcorvidae>      which comes to a good point: when/where is the installfest, exactly?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:28]      * ianmcorvidae hands floor back to john
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:31] <tyche>     No problem.  I was thinking of putting it up on our forum as a sticky.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  i though we might have some back and forth on the list with this
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:19:55]      * johnc4510-laptop to all, the mail list is there for all to use
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:20:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  you can send a question or idea to the list for all members to see and comment on
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:20:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  is everyone signed up for the list?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:20:51] <kennymc0_laptop>   i get email from you guys
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:20:56] <kennymc0_laptop>   hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:02] <paul928>   I'm on the list
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-az
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  it's easy to use
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  and a resource
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  don't be afraid to use it
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, thx ianmcorvidae
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  now back to the installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:21:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  phoenix is pretty well set up
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  but we still need a location for tucson
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  a constant problem
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  :(
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:35] <tyche>     You can always come join us, johnc4510-laptop
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  ianmcorvidae: any ideas for a location
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:42] <johnc4510-laptop>  we may have too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:22:53] <ianmcorvidae>      I can't think of any off-hand, no
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:01] <kennymc0_laptop>   i wouldnt mind being joined by our friends from tucson
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  how about you soldats
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:04] <DrPppr242> where is it in phoenix?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:04] <kennymc0_laptop>   :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:17] <Hipstor__> the convention center
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  DrPppr242: at the link
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:26] <DrPppr242> thanks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:29] <soldats>   johnc4510-laptop: i have no clue i had ideas i gave you a while back thay all fell through or didnt go as planned
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:30] <tyche>     First Baptist Church of Peoria, Cactus Road, Peoria
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: k
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm still trying a place and should know by tuesday
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:23:58] <enigmastrat>       check info for the concurrent event at http://www.lannage.com
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:14] <soldats>   for all the phoenix people who never saw the flyer is on te forums on the installfest flyer section for the latest flyer
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  and i have another idea too that i'll check on monday
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'll link the flyer in a sec
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:37] <kennymc0_laptop>   yeah if there isnt a place very very soon there might not be a place
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=63605&d=1206333507
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:24:55] <johnc4510-laptop>  flyer for phoenix
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  now, i know some of you didn't have a lot of luck with the release flyers
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  but please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  don't give up
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  it is even more important with the installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:39] <soldats>   i honestly wouldnt be oppesed to going to phoenix and in a month or two make a set date for tucson and have all new cds hopefully with all the bug fixes to distribute
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:25:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  since we are trying to attract non-users
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:26:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: an idea, let me see how the first of wk goes with who i'm working with
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:26:41] <soldats>   cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:26:44] <soldats>   im ok with that
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:26:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  now, the same idea is true for distribution
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  grocery store cork boards
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  computer shops
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  libraries
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  public places
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  hmm, brain seizure
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:27:54] <ianmcorvidae>      (also, john: for reference's sake, which are the places you're looking into for the installfest)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:05] <DrPppr242> local colleges with class in IT
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:12] <soldats>   shit even put them up on lamp posts and street lights
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:17] <soldats>   oops
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  pima central, and the tucson computer society office
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: right
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:28] <ianmcorvidae>      ah, okay
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:48] <soldats>   pima central would be best i think
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  any places anyone might see them
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  colleges
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  schools
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:28:58] <soldats>   its a pretty grewat location
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  chruches
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  coffee shops
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, you get the idea
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:22] <soldats>   yes
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:25] <ianmcorvidae>      everywhere possible
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:28] <ianmcorvidae>      and then some.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  also don't be afraid to hand them out at work if you can
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:41] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  friends
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  neighbors
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:29:55] <tyche>     I might have a problem with handing them out at work.  Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  insane asylums
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: you could try there
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:16] <DrPppr242> where do you work?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:17] <tyche>     But I'm ALREADY home.  LOL
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:20] <Hipstor__> countrymen
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:23] <soldats>   that shows how OLD you are tyche
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  right
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:26] <tyche>     DrPppr242: I'm retired.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:34]      * DrPppr242 gets it now
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:49] <kennymc0_laptop>   lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:56] <eddieftw>  and before that, he drove around the Usa in a truck
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  but like i said if it's just members who show up, well, it isn't going to be productive
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:30:57] <eddieftw>  ;p
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:09] <ianmcorvidae>      haha
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  we need new blood
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:21] <kennymc0_laptop>   fresh meat
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:24] <kennymc0_laptop>   hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:29] <eddieftw>  new people... shedding blood isn't a good phrase
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:31]      * tyche is covering my neck with a steel band.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:32] <Hipstor__> and brains
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:45] <Hipstor__> braaaains
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:56] <kennymc0_laptop>   mmmmm brains
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:31:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, lets move on to material that is needed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:32:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:32:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  that's the link again
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:32:27] <johnc4510-laptop>  install disk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:32:37] <soldats>   its also on th eflyer which john gave the link to as well
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:32:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  if you are going to attend one of the installfests we need disks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:33:13] <kennymc0_laptop>   i have a bunch of leftovers from the release party
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:33:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  it should be mostly ubuntu
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:33:27] <kennymc0_laptop>   so i think phoenix should be mostly covered
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:33:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  but you should also have a few of the other versions
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:33:58] <Hipstor__> for older machines
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:07] <kennymc0_laptop>   i have some kubuntu and xubuntu disks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  a good mix might be: 10 ubuntu, 3 ubuntu 64bit, 1 alternate install cd
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:17] <soldats>   I MUST SAY THAT IF YOU DO MAKE DISKS AND THEY DONT ALL GET USED AT THE INSTALLFEST PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU ARE FREELY CAPABLE TO HAND THEM OUT TO OTHERS AS WELL ITS NOT ONLY TE INSTALL FEST BUT WE CAN PROMOTE AT AL GIVEN TIMES AND WE SHOULD
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  a few kubuntu
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: good point
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:50] <kennymc0_laptop>   i have about 5 64 bit and even a couple of server disks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:51] <eddieftw>  caps lock attack
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:34:55] <paul928>   xubuntu for resource challenged machines
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:06] <DrPppr242> what are all the disks for?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:11] <soldats>   eddieftw: caps lock is cruiose control for cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  i suggest the alternate cd, because in a few cases that's the only thing that will work everytime on some comps
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  paul928: that's cool too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:34] <soldats>   DrPppr242: the disks aewe live cds
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:45] <tyche>     I'll make one or two alternate CD's up, but I've never used them.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:49] <soldats>   are live cds ********
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:35:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  we don't want to limit, but we do want to try ubuntu if possible
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: yes, live
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:09] <DrPppr242> do you hand them out?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  all except the alternate cd
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:15] <tyche>     Yep
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  if you install sure, if they just want one sure
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:30] <tyche>     the disk goes with the installation.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  in other words sure
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:35] <soldats>   johnc4510-laptop: they are all ubuntu so it realy doesnt matter as much but a full gnome/ubuntu is best for a nubie with a good system to try out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  agreed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:53] <Hipstor__> i used an alternate cd to install unbuntu on a pentium 1 once.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:36:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  that was the point i was trying to make
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:12] <kennymc0_laptop>   i got ubuntu server to run on a pentium 2
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  i used the alternate only for a long time
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  but the installer is better now
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:34] <johnc4510-laptop>  so alternate not needed as much
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:40] <kennymc0_laptop>   it's really intuitive now a windows user could figure it out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:48] <ianmcorvidae>      alternate is still better if you want to do something strange, but that won't be a concern at an installfest.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:50] <soldats>   but we should always try to at lest make a full cd install rather than an alternate it may fray people away
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:37:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  enigmastrat: you here
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:11] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: true
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:19]      * johnc4510-laptop nudges enigmastrat
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:30] <enigmastrat>       oh hey
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:33] <enigmastrat>       yeah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:38] <johnc4510-laptop>  enigmastrat is responsible for the location in phoenix
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:46] <tyche>     And we thank him
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:50] <enigmastrat>       I am?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:52] <enigmastrat>       ha...
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:38:56] <enigmastrat>       j/k yeah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:01] <enigmastrat>       it's at our Lannage event
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  enigmastrat: can you tell us what equipment will be there and what is needed please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:28] <enigmastrat>       There will be tables with power strips and LAN plugs as well as wireless
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  nice
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:45] <enigmastrat>       There will be (slow) internet
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:39:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:10] <soldats>   i guess he means what should be needed for us to bring just in case
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:17] <kennymc0_laptop>   should be enough for irc so we can yell back and forth between here and tucson in here
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:18] <kennymc0_laptop>   lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:21] <soldats>   or shall we bring anything
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:26] <soldats>   cables etc
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:33] <enigmastrat>       hmm.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:37] <enigmastrat>       Extra CAT5 might be nice
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:46] <enigmastrat>       for people without wireless I guess
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:40:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, we had something about a cart or something to help people bring in equip, ie desktop boxes
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:15] <kennymc0_laptop>   well i have a dolly that can bring
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:17] <Hipstor__> spare monitors or keyboards"
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:21] <johnc4510-laptop>  well, we will need hard connections on the initial install
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  kennymc0_laptop: kk ty
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: kennymc0_laptop for cart
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  or dolly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:41] <kennymc0_laptop>   it can even be setup to roll on 4 wheels
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  hopefully not a ken dolly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:50] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:54] <kennymc0_laptop>   so that it can be rolled around like a cart
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:41:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:13] <soldats>   i might be able to jack a cart from work
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche:  for camera i guess?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:26] <tyche>     Yes.  With batteries.  Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:32] <kennymc0_laptop>   i can see if i can steal my parents camera too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:43] <johnc4510-laptop>  signage ??
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:44] <kennymc0_laptop>   just in case tyche forgets his batteries
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  a problem
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:42:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:08] <enigmastrat>       There is plenty of places to put up signs
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:11] <tyche>     The table top signs are a start, and they're already on the forums
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:13] <enigmastrat>       they just need to be made
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  maybe a big piece of poster board nicely hand printed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:17] <kennymc0_laptop>   i dont know anywhere that would be able to make a decent signs
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:25] <enigmastrat>       kinkos
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  enigmastrat: maybe
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:38] <soldats>   i can get free big signs from kinkos
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:40] <kennymc0_laptop>   yeah get them to blow up and make a nice big print
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:41] <enigmastrat>       wal-mart + poster board + permanent marker
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:43:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  enigmastrat: my idea exactly
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  at that price you could have one outside and one inside maybe
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:29] <enigmastrat>       soldats... how?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:32] <kennymc0_laptop>   would be kinda neat to work on getting a more permanent banner made that we can use at multiple events
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: excellent
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:56] <enigmastrat>       5 finger discount isn't a good answer
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  kennymc0_laptop: agreed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:44:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:45:08] <soldats>   enigmastrat: my frind works at kinkos but im in tucson but we will have them here if we get a place but if we go to phoenix we should have a few big ones
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:45:21] <enigmastrat>       cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:45:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, soldats you are for looking into a couple of signs please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:45:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  simple
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:05] <soldats>   yes iltry to make a few in a few days
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  ubuntu az loco installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  thx
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:37] <johnc4510-laptop>  now, we had discussed a printed sheet with our team particulars
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  and we haven't done anything with that yet
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:46:55] <johnc4510-laptop>  do we still want too?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  if so
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:08] <soldats>   what is it
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  it should give reference to our wiki page
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:19] <soldats>   i may have missed it
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:23] <kennymc0_laptop>   like a brochure about us?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:27] <soldats>   ahh
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: an info sheet to hand out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  kennymc0_laptop: yes
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:33] <soldats>   ok cool
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:47:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  wiki page, email list sign up page, launchpad page
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:05] <johnc4510-laptop>  a short paragraph on what we do
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:09] <kennymc0_laptop>   if we make that it would something that we could update and use for a long time to come
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  also irc channel info
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:22] <johnc4510-laptop>  agreed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  small enough to maybe get two on one sheet of paper
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  then cut in have to hand out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:48:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  nothing special
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:49:01] <johnc4510-laptop>  just the facts jack sort of thing
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:49:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  should also say how we are here to support new users etc
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:49:35] <soldats>   of course
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:49:38] <kennymc0_laptop>   sounds like a good idea
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:02] <soldats>   theses may be some general flyers to put someplace as well as hand out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, anyone want to volunteer to put it together?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: yep
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: you maybe want to try that?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:26] <soldats>   if i can i will it depends on my time with the band and stuff
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:30] <johnc4510-laptop>  k
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:49] <tyche>     I might be able to help some.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:58] <kennymc0_laptop>   i might be able to help some too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:50:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  tyche: kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:07] <Hipstor__> no still too newbi
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:08] <johnc4510-laptop>  it should be too hard to do
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:10] <kennymc0_laptop>   i wont be able to do all of it but tell me what to do and ill help
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:13] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: ok
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: would you work with tyche and/or kennymc0_laptop on it to get your feet wet? lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:49] <soldats>   i can maybe start tomorrow and hand it off to anyone who wants to gie it a shot
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:51:53] <johnc4510-laptop>  sorry if i'm sounding pushy
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:05] <tyche>     (Manipulative)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  me?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:10] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:11] <tyche>     Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:35] <kennymc0_laptop>   im seeing how expensive it would be to get a permanent banner made right now
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, Hipstor__ if you want to help get with tyche or kennymc0_laptop   either way, it's no problem
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:45] <kennymc0_laptop>   browsing around on different websites
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:52:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:04] <pr0nGuy>   johnc4510-laptop: sorry I missed the meeting.  I was [physically] attending another one here in Detroit.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:14] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:21] <eddieftw>  nice nick :P
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:24] <eddieftw>  very... yea
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:24] <soldats>   johnc4510-laptop: depending on which you choos, my friend at kinkos can maybe get it half off or quarter price
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:28] <pr0nGuy>   I should check you folks next Sun.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:31] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: you a lug guy or are you interested in our group?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:34] <Hipstor__> idea the big sign should have a area that you could add and erase info with a dry erase marker.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:39] <johnc4510-laptop>  soldats: kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:50] <pr0nGuy>   johnc4510-laptop: I'm definitely interested
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  Hipstor__: kk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:53:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: excellent
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:20] <pr0nGuy>   johnc4510-laptop: the guys in plugaz sent me to the sagacious folks on this channel.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:24] <johnc4510-laptop>  are you from az and living in detroit?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:33] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah great
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:36] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:40] <pr0nGuy>   johnc4510-laptop: I'm in Detroit, but will soon move to Glendalle
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  all are welcome
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  excelletn
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:48] <pr0nGuy>   thanks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:57] <johnc4510-laptop>  welcome, hang out anytime
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:54:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  :)
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:04] <pr0nGuy>   I'm a n00b though, with a lot of dumb questions
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:07] <tyche>     Sone of a gun.  We didn't scare him off.  Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:12] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: np
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:12] <pr0nGuy>   nope
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:17] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:19] <johnc4510-laptop>  now
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:28] <johnc4510-laptop>  it looks like we are rolling
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:29] <johnc4510-laptop>  but
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:44] <johnc4510-laptop>  we need to stay on top of this since it's in two wks
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  so
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  flyers
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  by all
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:57] <pr0nGuy>   what's in two weeks?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:55:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  signs, if possible
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:04] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: installfests
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:14] <soldats>   pr0nGuy: our instal fest for hardy is on may 17
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:26] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Installfest
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:40] <pr0nGuy>   johnc4510-laptop: damn!  I won't be there in time.  I need mad help with these confusers.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:46] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  np
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:49] <johnc4510-laptop>  next one
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:56:59] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, what have i forgotten??
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:09] <johnc4510-laptop>  i'm sure there's something
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:15] <johnc4510-laptop>  anyone
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:17] <tyche>     gpg signing materials
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:18] <johnc4510-laptop>  feel free
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:29] <tyche>     MANPOWER!!!
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:35] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah, ianmcorvidae should be letting us know what is needed
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  we'll look for his email this wk
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  ah
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:56] <pr0nGuy>   although I just installed Hardy on Studmuffin and the my pop just installed it on his too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:58] <tyche>     HELP!!!  We need lots of HELP!!!!!
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:57:58] <soldats>   manpowers is easy its the other people we need which means get some flyers out
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:00] <johnc4510-laptop>  MANPOWER is right
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:07] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: great
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:25] <pr0nGuy>   but I always need help configging something
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:36] <tyche>     Some people think _I_ need lots of help all by myself.  Hee hee
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:40] <pr0nGuy>   maybe I'll get you guys in 6 months
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:40] <johnc4510-laptop>  i really can't stress how "IMPORTANT" the flyers are
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:44] <soldats>   pr0nGuy: feel free to come here whenever you need to
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:50] <DesertPenquin>     john can I introduce myself to the group? This is my first time making a meeting?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:56] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: yeah hang here now too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:58:56] <pr0nGuy>   soldats: Where is "here"?
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:02] <paul928>   pr0nGuy, you can usually get help on this channel
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:06] <johnc4510-laptop>  DesertPenquin: sure, sorry
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:08] <soldats>   pr0nGuy: this channel
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:09] <kennymc0_laptop>   wow first site is $100 for a 2'x5' vinyl banner
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:10] <pr0nGuy>   okay on irc, of course
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:23] <johnc4510-laptop>  DesertPenquin: go ahead please
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:34] <pr0nGuy>   paul928: I got help on this channel last night with the 'rents' confuser.
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:47] <johnc4510-laptop>  we are here to help
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:54] <pr0nGuy>   you guys rock!
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:54] <johnc4510-laptop>  and have some fun too
[Sun May 4 2008] [21:59:56] <DesertPenquin>     I am John and live in Sun City. I am from Detorit and been here 8 years now. I am currently back in school trying to figure out what I want to be in life. It was great to meet you at the party and I hope to get more involved as we go forward.
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:16] <johnc4510-laptop>  excellent
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:18] <soldats>   rad^^^^^^
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:18] <tyche>     Welcome, DesertPenquin
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:25] <pr0nGuy>   dagnabit!  I'm gonna miss a key-signing party too?
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:49] <DesertPenquin>     thanks and I would like to thank kenny and tyche for their work and I am still blown away by kenny's cd's
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:50] <tyche>     pr0nGuy: We can do yours anytime.
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:00:51] <johnc4510-laptop>  btw, if anyone knows the names of the "unknowns" on the release party page, please feel free to edit the page and correct it
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:06] <paul928>   pr0nGuy, looks like it, but there will be another in 6 months
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:22] <tyche>     Or, if you're not comfortable working in wiki, get with me and I'll help.
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:25] <johnc4510-laptop>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/HardyReleaseParties
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:45] <johnc4510-laptop>  pr0nGuy: yes, in 6 months another new release for sure
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:48] <johnc4510-laptop>  october
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:52] <johnc4510-laptop>  w00t
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:01:58] <johnc4510-laptop>  we own the other team
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:02:02] <johnc4510-laptop>  lol
[Sun May 4 2008] [22:02:20] <johnc4510-laptop>  ok, if that's all, meeting over, and thx to all :)


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